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Something a little odd

Hi, Moneytrees. Look at this strange, incoherent paragraph added by a student editor: [1]. I think the guy was using some sort of AI text generator (like GPT-2). Would that be a problem from a copyright perspective? I recall that there was a bit of a kerfuffle a few months ago over Mo Billings' AI-generated userpage image. Cheers, gnu57 00:19, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

@Genericusername57 Thank you for removing that text, it's sad how stuff like that can stick around in article for a while before people notice... Although it does look like it could be copied from some machine generated prompt or whatever, it also could be some poorly written gibberish or a manually written word salad. Since the source of where it came from isn't clear, I don't believe a revdel or anything is necessary. Thanks for asking, Moneytrees🏝️^{Talk/CCI guide} 06:45, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

Okay, thank you. gnu57 13:21, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

ACE2021 guide

Hi Moneytrees. Thanks for the guide to this years elections, it's certainly one of the more useful ones. Especially the points about behind-the-scenes aptitude: I've been tempted to write guides the past two years myself for the very reason that this is a huge part of what makes a good arbitrator, but almost impossible to judge without some prior knowledge of how the committee works. That said, I wanted to say something about your methodology with regard to {{Arbcomblock}}s. The way these typically work is 1) someone, maybe an arb, will bring the matter to the committee's attention, 2) an ad hoc group will investigate and discuss it, 3) most or all of the committee will vote on it, 4) after the vote reaches a majority and sits for a while, someone will place the block. So the person who actually places the block is likely to just be whoever is around and processing emails when the vote happens to finish. It isn't a great indicator of who was the "prime mover", or necessarily even particularly involved in, the case. And the same usually goes for posted motions, public announcements, etc. I can't think of a measure of behind-the-scenes activity that is publicly visible at all, to be honest, which has always struck me as a bit of a problem... – Joe (talk) 08:09, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

@Joe Roe Yeah, you're not the only current/former arb who's pointed that out to me, I'm aware of the way Arbcom blocks are discussed and that the person who posts stuff is usually just the messenger... my intention in including the number of blocks was for background information/supposed to show that whoever was doing the block had at least some visible involvement with addressing behind-the-scenes issues. I don't say that on my guide, so I'll add it and change some stuff to make it more clear.

I can't think of a measure of behind-the-scenes activity that is publicly visible at all, to be honest, which has always struck me as a bit of a problem... Yeah, I've had to play a bit of an educated guessing game when it comes to some members, being a former clerk just helps me a little bit more. I heard from an Arb that only a subset of the committee works on block appeals (4-6 I'm guessing?), would you know anymore about how that process goes? Moneytrees🏝️^{Talk/CCI guide} 22:00, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

The arbitrator who places an {{ArbComBlock}} isn't as much indicative of who was more (or less) active on a certain matter, but merely who feels more comfortable placing a block—or in some cases, who was around at a specific time to do it. For a given matter, very often one arbitrator takes point on the matter. Sometimes it's two or three arbitrators but unlikely to be more as it becomes either a too-many-cooks-in-the-kitchen scenario, waiting for the arbitrator to make a move, or a combination thereof. Appeals definitely have regulars and non-regulars. The estimate of 4–6 arbitrators who do appeals is a decent guess, and at the high end of that estimate, those should probably account for ~80% of the traffic on appeals. That's not to say some arbs don't ever touch appeals; everyone at some point pitches in. Maxim_(talk) 19:19, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

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Manhattan Beach Jewish Center

Hi. Were my edits to Manhattan Beach Jewish Center removed for some factual reason or do I need to reword to avoid copyright issues?

Yours, 107.127.46.26 (talk) 04:34, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

Yes, the issue was that parts of your addition were too closely phrased, while other parts of it were directly copied from the source. Moneytrees🏝️^{Talk/CCI guide} 05:43, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

I will attempt to reword again, in good faith, to address those issues. I do not wish to be -- in any way -- out of copyright compliance. Thanks. 107.127.46.8 (talk) 07:16, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

DRN Case Filed and Closed

For your information, BranderChatfield filed a case at the Dispute Resolution Noticeboard concerning the material that they had inserted into LGBT history in North Dakota and that you redacted. I closed the case because of lack of notice to you and lack of discussion, but more importantly because DRN is not a forum for copyright issues, and copyvio material is never restored. Either they will ask to discuss it, or they won't. Robert McClenon (talk) 23:39, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

Precious

Three years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:29, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

@Gerda Arendt "I edit here when I have nothing else to do, just for fun" I removed that from my userpage a few months ago. I wonder why I edit here now... Moneytrees🏝️^{Talk/CCI guide} 05:45, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

I edit here to not let the work of some who died or were banned go to waste (as you kindly said three years ago). Thank you for the fly now on your user page. I edit here also to remind of subjects who died, for their legacy. For both reasons: In Freundschaft. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:54, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

November songs

The memory of SlimVirgin is pictured again today, in the context of my dangerous thoughts about arbcom. I mentioned you here. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:18, 29 November 2021 (UTC)

Copyright issue

{{unblock}}

I took the time to read the things you sent me. I will do my best to comply. I wrote this some days ago but I think you didn't see it.

Regarding the instances of copy-paste you warned me about three times already, an explanation is in order:

• I actually translated the information about the LAPA rifle directly from Portuguese; the similitude being the product of the technical nature of the article, and it being the same document translated in the Forgotten Weapons article.
• The second flagging was more of a coincidence. My edit on Iraqi logistics was actually taken from the book Arabs at War, by the same author - Dr. Kenneth Pollack. Reading the link you sent me, it really does look like the way I phrased it - book, article.
• The third case was an oversight on my part. I just wanted the treaty's name in Arabic and intended to merge it with the information from Lt.-Colonel Malovany's Wars of Modern Babylon and Dr. Shemesh's Soviet-Iraqi Relations, 1968-1988. I received a phone call and had to leave home to attend personal matters. When I came back, I forgot about it and just worked on the operations in Samaria and Jenin. Those two paragraphs should have never been posted with the edit and were supposed to form a different section about the Baghdad Pact.

As I understand the reaction and punishment were both justified, regardless of the circumstances, I still wish to contribute with the project.

Filipe46 (talk) 14:12, 29 November 2021 (UTC) @Filipe46: The way to use the unblock template is to use it on your talkpage. I have disabled the template here, as it looks like Moneytrees is asking for an unblock. SQL^{Query Me!} 23:20, 29 November 2021 (UTC)

Question

I found a copyvio from a person who went by the username Hyades while working on the the Ardfern CCI earlier this year. He previously got warned back in the 2000's about mass copyvios. One of them was discovered in 2013, EpicPupper discovered another one. I'm not sure what to do about it though. I think a CCI is warranted though. Scorpions13256 (talk) 02:30, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

Upon closer inspection, it appears that they have mostly been removed, but some likely remain and need to be redacted. Scorpions13256 (talk) 02:34, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

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Thank You for your Arbitration Committee Elections 2021 Voter Guide

Hello Moneytrees, I would like to thank you for publishing and providing your voter guide for Arbitration Committee Elections 2021 at User:Moneytrees/ACE2021. It has been very helpful and useful to me in learning about the pros & cons of all the different candidates with respect to their suitability for Arbitration Committee. It had proper detailed analysis and rationale on every candidate and helped me in voting informatively. Thanks. TheGeneralUser (talk) 01:09, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Hi Moneytrees. I found your guide very interesting. It's a shame you didn't fully complete it, your knowledge of Arbcom is important. It remains to be seen how well it reflects the result. 52% of the votes were cast on day 1 of the ballot. You might find this full analysis of the campaign to be of interest. You are welcome to leave your thoughts on its talk page. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 04:12, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

@Kudpung Yes, I meant to write more but ended up not having the time. I was planning on asking some more questions too, but ultimately decided against it or ran out of time. I have some thoughts and ramblings I'll probably add to that talk page when I have the time. Moneytrees🎄^{Talk/CCI guide} 05:47, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Tridents CCI

Hello Moneytrees. I would be interested in helping with the clean up. Its entry in User:Moneytrees/CCI_Sort said to contact you before editing so here I am. --Asmodea Oaktree (talk) 13:44, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

@Asmodea Oaktree That can be ignored, I put that there given some confusion over the user commenting out some of the copyright violations they added, making them invisible when reading the article. Visual editor lets you remove these easily, and almost all of them are gone now, so the notice really isn't necessary anymore and I've removed it. Moneytrees🎄^{Talk/CCI guide} 19:40, 10 December 2021 (UTC)

Fullerton High School wikipedia edits

Hello, the current wikipedia page for Fullerton High School is outdated and I made some corrections but I also do not know how to give a proper source for these other than I am a student at the school. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.169.198.77 (talk) 04:45, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

Fullerton High School wikipedia edits

Hello, the current wikipedia page for Fullerton High School is outdated and I made some corrections but I also do not know how to give a proper source for these other than I am a student at the school. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.169.198.77 (talk) 04:45, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

Citing yourself as a source unfortunately falls afoul of our policy on reliable sources and verifiability. You'll have to use a different reference, preferably non-primary- see Help:Referencing for beginners#RefToolbar for how to add a reference with the proper template. Moneytrees🎄^{Talk/CCI guide} 05:58, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

Abd-us-Salam Shah

Why are you deleting What I write ? You have no Right to do so علوي قزلباشي (talk) 09:37, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

@علوي قزلباشي The text you are adding to the article is copied from http://ismaili.net/heritage/node/18170. You cannot paste material from other websites into Wikipedia, as it is a violation of that website's copyright. It does not matter if the information is informative or well written- if it is copied from another place and that place does not explicitly say that it is ok to copy, then the material must be removed. Due to your repeated addition of the material even after you were told not to re-add it, I have removed your ability to edit articles and draftspace- you can only get these abilities back if you demonstrate a better understanding of copyright and commit to not copying from sources again in an appeal. Moneytrees🎄^{Talk/CCI guide} 17:56, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

Regarding unblocking my username

Moneytrees Hi, hope you are doing good. As you know, my username has been blocked early this year due to violation of copyright. I appealed twice to unblock but they got rejected. Can you help me regarding the exact process to get unblocked. Thank you very much. Have a nice day. Bsskchaitanya (talk) 07:27, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

@Bsskchaitanya There's no 100% exact words you can that will get yourself unblocked, but there's a few things that you can do that will help you greatly- engaging with me in the first step. Your goal will be to convince the unblocking admin that you have a better understanding of copyright and will not violate it with your contributions in the future. What I would recommend is showing how you would now write the content that you were blocked for with your new knowledge of copyright, or helping out with Wikipedia:Contributor copyright investigations/20211215, an investigation into copyright issues with your edits. You could also give specific examples of what you did wrong and how you would do it differently in the future. Moneytrees🎄^{Talk/CCI guide} 04:42, 16 December 2021 (UTC)

Happy Holidays!

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File:Crayon Shin-chan - Great Adventure in Henderland (1996 film).jpg

Please move the file to File:Shinchan 1996 film poster.jpg because the new title its more appropriate. Shinnosuke15, 08:16, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

It's been renamed now by a different user. Moneytrees🎄^{Talk/CCI guide} 20:40, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

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Sockpuppet of User:Huyu90

Hello, please take a look at [2]. I'm unable to file a report. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:6011:340:4D6:44F1:EEC5:89A8:FED5 (talk) 14:38, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

I saw this earlier but didn't have time to file a SPI. Thank you for reminding me, it's at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Huyu90. Moneytrees🎄^{Talk/CCI guide} 04:55, 31 December 2021 (UTC)

Sockpuppet investigation of User:NanaChan901

Hello, I have read about your investigation about sockpuppetry. I know my time using Wikipedia has not been long enough, and I have many shortcomings when I first use the account. But I hope you will consider and acknowledge my contributions when being an user in my name NanaChan901. Hope you will consider and be tolerant in this investigation. Thank you, and have a nice day! NanaChan901^(talk) 12:51, 31 December 2021 (UTC)

Btw Money, He's been blocked for sockpuppetry. I don't know if you saw. Best, Signed,The4lines |||| ^{(Talk) (Contributions)} 15:37, 31 December 2021 (UTC)

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Page

Would you be willing to create a page for the underground experimental hiphop group Angry Blackmen Angryblackboi (talk) 04:30, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

Re: Eghosa Anglican Grammar School

Hello Moneytrees. I have re written the article on "Eghosa Anglican Grammar School" [3] that was deleted in Nov 2021 for copyrights violation. Can you help me review it and approve it for publication if it is okay. Thank you. Sunnycash (talk) 07:00, 17 January 2022 (UTC)