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Transliteration

Hi Mufidkce,

I've noticed that recently you've changed the transliteration of Javanese in the Javanese script, language, etc. Particularly a into å. I've asked the opinion of a user experienced in these fields, and he said that this transliteration is obsolete and uncommon. Therefore, I'm reverting your edit from å to a. If you'd still like to use that, discuss it first the talk page or make a new page regarding Javanese transliteration. Alteaven (talk) 23:07, 2 May 2014 (UTC)

Jawabnya pakai bahasa Indo ya? Saya sendiri walau 3/4 Jawa tidak bisa bahasa Jawa, cuma aksaranya. Hehe

Nah, perkara transliterasi. Terutama di artikel aksara Jawa dijelaskan bahwa huruf a bisa dibaca dengan /a/ atau /ɔ/ (o jawa). Para penutur asli yang saya kenal umumnya mengerti kapan a harus dibaca /a/ kapan harus dibaca /ɔ/ tanpa menggunakan å. Dan masalah lainnya adalah anda memberi sedikit referensi. Baru-baru ini saya dihimbau bahwa Wikipedia tidak menyarankan menulis suatu hal yang seharusnya atau semestinya. Jadi walau transliterasi bapak lebih tepat, transliterasi tersebut tidak umum dan karena itu sebaiknya dihindari. Menurut pendapat saya pribadi, transliterasi tersebut tidak estetis dan kurang jelas. Tidak estetis dalam arti terlalu banyak diaktrik, dan kurang jelas dalam arti masing-masing huruf tidak ditulis padanan IPA-nya. Akan lebih pas jika hal tersebut dibahas mendalam dalam artikel sendiri (tidak lupa dengan referensi yang memadai).

Terima kasih juga anda mau mengikuti saran saya untuk bertanya dulu di talk page. Talk page mengenai aksara Jawa seringkali sepi, jadi saya pikir anda lebih baik langsung bertanya saja ke ahli yang tadi saya bicarakan, entah di talk page [Indonesia] atau [Jawa]. Kemungkinan responnya lebih cepat, dan pendapatnya akan berbeda jika diberi pemaparan beralasan seperti yang anda tulis ke saya. Matur nuwun, maaf panjang Alteaven (talk) 12:03, 3 May 2014 (UTC)

Disarankan untuk mengumpulkan materi dari sejumlah referensi, tidak hanya satu. Poin kedua masih agak rancu. Bapak bilang â padanan IPA-nya /e/ (e seperti dalam kata enak), padahal dari yang saya tahu padanan /e/ adalah é. Salah satu alasan mengapa saya tidak menggunakan transliterasi ini adalah karena IPA-nya tidak jelas dan saya tidak punya sumber yang menjabarkannya. IPA ini menjadi begitu penting karena IPA bukan suatu transliterasi, melainkan sebuah tulisan yang jelas menunjukkan bunyi spesifik dalam konteks segala bahasa. Jika IPA-nya sudah jelas dan referensinya memadai, saya menyarankan untuk membuat artikel baru saja yang membahas transliterasi bahasa Jawa, nanti baru disambungkan dengan artikel bahasa Jawa :)

Oh iya, åjå IPA-nya bukan /ɔjɔ/ (itu bakal dibaca åyå), penulisan IPA yang tepat adalah /ɔdʒɔ/. Kemudian /ō/ juga seharusnya /o:/. Alteaven (talk) 14:55, 3 May 2014 (UTC)

Mari saya bantu sedikit mengenai IPA. Ini yang saya tahu:

Transkripsi

Konsonan

Umum

h

n

c

r

k

d

t

s

w

l

p

dh

j

y

ny

m

g

b

th

ng

Alternatif

ḍ

ṭ

IPA

h

ɲ

tʃ

ɽ

k

d

t

ʂ

w

ɭ

p

ɖ

dʒ

j

ɳ

m

g

b

ʈ

ŋ

Sementara itu menurut saya vokalnya yang agak membingungkan:

Transkripsi

Vokal

Umum

a

i

u

é

e

o

Alternatif

a

å

â

i

ì

u

ù

é

è

ê

o

ò

IPA

a

ɔ

?

i

?

u

?

e

ɛ

ə

o

?

Terima kasih Alteaven (talk) 01:56, 4 May 2014 (UTC)

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Nusantaran languages

You have moved Malayo-Polynesian languages families to Nusantaran languages and varieties thereof without any discussion at all. That is a tremendous change and while "edit boldly" is genereally a good idea, that language family comprises 385.5 million speakers. Not to mention that your "cite" is a single book from 1974 and it's not in English so it cannot even be confirmed. This is a problem. Ogress _smash! 10:40, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

The book you cited was a book on old Javanese literature. See Petrus Josephus Zoetmulder. It was not a book on language classification. All the books I have seen have named it Malayo-Polynesian. Also see http://glottolog.org/resource/languoid/id/mala1545 and http://www.ethnologue.com/subgroups/malayo-polynesian, http://www.freelang.net/families/#famille_austro --Mrjulesd (talk) 11:35, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

In the same vein, I reverted your moving Malayo-Polynesian languages to Nusantaran languages. Eklir (talk) 16:03, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

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O-Javanese_spelling

The key foundation of articles on wp en (English Wikipedia) - are WP:N, WP:V, and WP:RS

The article you have created has nothing to verify or confirm the argument found in the article - as a consequence it needs WP:RS.

Please attend to the article - or ... ask for help.satusuro 09:46, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

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This is English Wikipedia. It is expected that articles and references are in English. The O-Javanese article does not have any english language reference to back up what is basically WP:OR unless you are able to verify = in English. Your editing is basically more suitable for wp:id, or wp:jv - are you sure that you might not try to do editing there instead? satusuro 08:04, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

WP:ABOUT and WP:NOT - the article Javanese people is about people - the section about etymology - is about the word java... are you sure it is not better somewhere else - at least the refs are better... satusuro 08:12, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

Your english does not help you - if the specific ethnic sub groups exist, indonesian and/or javanese sources are not enough (ie belum cukup), this is english wikipedia - and if you want to not have your indonesian sources reverted regularly - it is important, if you know or have access to english articles or books that explain the javanese sub-groups - indonesian sources on this matter are not good enough. satusuro 09:40, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

Placing incorrect block notices

Can you explain this? You are not an administrator, the user is not blocked, nor has he warranted a block that I can tell. 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 14:35, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

I'm sorry for this, my account were hacked by someone several hours ago, I'm trying to fix this...

Mufidkce (talk) 14:38, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

Very sorry to hear this. If you feel your account has been compromised beyond repair, you might want to start a new account, and have an administrator permanently block this one. Cheers and good luck. 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 15:04, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

Reverting

Please be careful when editing and reverting - your last edit at Javanese people also removed text which was valid and referenced. satusuro 22:51, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

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