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LGBT rights in Guatemala

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Please refrain from removing tags again on LGBT rights in Greece

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July 2018

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September 2018

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Concerning LGBT rights in Fiji

Hi An update Concerning LGBT rights in Fiji Ahead of elections Different parties were asked ablut their stance about same sex marriage Some resonded some not Some respobded positively most responded negatively http://www.fijitimes.com/same-sex-marriage-issue/ AdamPrideTN (talk) 21:05, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

Concerning Recognition of same-sex unions in the Americas

Hi Concerning Recognition of same-sex unions in the Americas I'm sure there are important updates needeed as the national bill in and the important updates in the constutuition and referendum in Cuba I think also updates to public opinion and future and current legislation is needed Thank you and that in Venezuela they are discussing it in the new draft constitution in Venezuela either by the end of 2018 or 2019 according to sources I would refer ylu to all respective recognition or lgbt rights pages of the countries Here are sources for Venezuela important update maybe you can added into its pages Plus cuba president backing same sex marriage Im new here and still learning so its better that the edit comes from you Thank you

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/407066-new-cuban-president-says-he-supports-same-sex-marriage

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/09/cuban-president-miguel-diaz-canel-backs-sex-marriage-180917162537797.html

http://www.elimpulso.com/noticias/nacionales/en-el-2019-se-podria-legalizar-el-matrimonio-gay-en-venezuela-15sep

http://www.el-nacional.com/noticias/politica/nueva-constitucion-podria-legalizar-matrimonio-gay-venezuela_251900 AdamPrideTN (talk) 21:17, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

Concerning Recognition of same-sex unions in Europe

Hi Concerning Recognition of same-sex unions in Europe Now that unfortunately the civil union bill in Slovakia have been defeated Should slovakia still be put in future legislation section Or what do you think? AdamPrideTN (talk) 21:21, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

September 2018

Please assume good faith in your dealings with other editors. Assume that they are here to improve rather than harm Wikipedia. In your edit summaries, when you reverted several changes I made that I explained clearly in terms of Wikipedia guidelines against editorializing in articles and that I obviously made in good faith, you described my changes as vandalism. This doesn't fly. Largoplazo (talk) 22:04, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

IACHR

Sharing with you the comments I left for User:Xylo kai Gyali explaining the reason for my removals:

I've left the paragraph text in place in articles where it's serving as context for activity within the country that is a consequence of the IACHR ruling, such as when a lawsuit has been filed that cites that ruling as its legal basis. In other cases, where the ruling is mentioned without any discussion of actions in the country that have resulted from it, it's only serving an editorial function, as if to say "LGBT people don't have such-and-such rights in this country, but the IACHR ruling says they should have them". The articles rightly deal with what LGBT rights are, and on activities in each respective country related to the pursuit or granting or revocation of rights in that country, but it isn't appropriate for Wikipedia to state what they're supposed to be.

Precedent for this is a similar set of removals of language in articles on LGBT rights in various African countries. AfricaTanz had added boilerplate language about an international agreement that was said to be binding on all those countries, without mentioning any actual impact the ruling had on any of those countries. After a lengthy feud, the removal of the content was sustained. Largoplazo (talk) 22:20, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

Previous pertinent discussions, relating to a similar situation vis-a-vis African countries:

• User talk:Largoplazo/Archives/Archive 10#LGBT rights in Africa
• User:Largoplazo/Note on LGBT rights in African countries
• Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/3RRArchive199#User:70.253.75.84 reported by User:Jenova20 (Result: 1 week)
• Talk:LGBT rights under international law

Largoplazo (talk) 23:52, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

I'm interpreting the absence of a response from you as an acceptance of the explanation and background that I've given you. Therefore, I'm understanding that when I again remove the material that you restored, you won't object; and that you are now aware of the terms of WP:AGF, so that you won't again refer to my edits as vandalism. Largoplazo (talk) 16:43, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

And now you're massive reverting my changes again. I'm supposing you prefer arduous dispute resolution processes over discussion and paying attention to Wikipedia guidelines and precedent. Since you refuse to discuss, I'm going straight in that direction. Largoplazo (talk) 11:06, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

I see that you haven't made a single edit on any Talk or User talk page on Wikipedia, even despite various issues having been brought to your attention previously. Plowing through and doing what you want while ignoring guidance and refusing to discuss anything doesn't work well here. Largoplazo (talk) 11:29, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

October 2018

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Points to note:

1. Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made;
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@Panda2018 0: Last chance: I've explained why I removed the material, and you've refused to discuss it. The edit summary on your latest reversions, "Please do not remove important information", indicates a complete refusal to WP:LISTEN, and takes the form of a plea to let the material be there just because you want it there, without any sense of obligation on your part to follow Wikipedia guidelines. Any more reversions and we're going to the administrator's noticeboard, which may lead to you being blocked. Largoplazo (talk) 18:05, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

For crying out loud: A couple of your edit summaries read "you remove this content explanation again I will report you". Without explanation?????? You mean, besides all of the above??? Largoplazo (talk) 18:15, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

Another of your edit summaries reads "you remove this content explanation again I will report you". When you report a dispute, do you know what the first question is? It's "Did you discuss it and try to come to a resolution with the other party(ies)?" Well, you've refused to discuss, so there goes that. Largoplazo (talk) 18:29, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

LGBT rights article edits

We don't need duplicate information on each individual article. You could maybe add it to LGBT rights by country or territory near the top. – BrandonXLF ^(t@lk) 18:09, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

Plural vs singular

With this edit you changed "Virginia's hate crime laws" to "Virginia's hate crime law" despite the fact that the source mentions three laws. I won't fuss about "protections" which I find clumsy but is technically correct, but if the source discusses laws plural, the text must reflect that. Doug Weller talk 18:25, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

Stop deleting pride maps pics

Stop deleting prude map pics from pages they are important and wonderful Who said they are unnecessary People who put it before you in all of these did it for a reason okay Please stop it AdamPrideTN (talk) 23:58, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

Adam, I saw your note here and went to see what you were talking about. In my opinion, those pics are inappropriate. They are devoid of informational value, just an outline of the jurisdiction covered by the article with the colors of the rainbow superimposed. As such, they serve no purpose other than as promotional illustrations, as advocacy for LGBT rights and trumpeting LGBT pride. I'm as much an advocate for our rights as anyone and a proud gay man, but this isn't what Wikipedia articles are for. These Wikipedia articles on LGBT rights, like all articles, are neutral, and don't convey pride in their topics. Largoplazo (talk) 00:12, 13 November 2018 (UTC)

@AdamPrideTN: I should have pinged you properly. Doing so here. Largoplazo (talk) 01:00, 13 November 2018 (UTC)

Hi i understand but these maps are for countries that have protections and did good to lgbt protections For example u can not do it in my shithole country or in afghanistan or in nigeria or kenya since they offer nothing Im not vandalising u know Thx

peace — Preceding unsigned comment added by AdamPrideTN (talk • contribs) 10:38, 13 November 2018 (UTC)

As you say, you're putting up these graphics to express your appreciation for these places. Wikipedia isn't a forum for that. I didn't say you're vandalizing, you posted them in good faith, but I'm explaining why they shouldn't be here. They're contrary to Wikipedia policy. Largoplazo (talk) 12:52, 13 November 2018 (UTC)

A cup of tea for you!

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Vandalism

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, you may be blocked from editing. I am giving you a warning over reverting editing I made on LGBT rights in India and Template:LGBT_rights_table_Asia. I have attached two citations that make it clear the law in Sri Lanka is varyingly decriminalized, whereas the anti-discrimination law does not exist in India as the BBC mentions that activists still want to see such a law. Hindianu (talk) 19:47, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

You still do not understand, do you? India has no anti-discrimination laws that include sexual orientation, that is true. HOWEVER, the Supreme Court has ruled that discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation is unconstitutional. This is supported by all the references I added plus your own. LGBT activists want an explicit anti-discrimination law, to ensure that there are no loopholes. See Case law. Panda2018 0 (talk) 12:34, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

Constitutional Recognition of Prohibition of discrimination on the grounds of Sexual Orientation and Gender Identity by the Supreme Court of India in Navtej Singh Johar v. Union of India and National Legal Services Authority v. Union of India, respectively, does not mean India has anti-discrimination law.

The point was raised by the Senior Advocates arguing for Marriage Equality, a declaration of right without statutory recognition of the right cannot be exercised. In other words, if Supreme Court of India rules, "every adult, regardless of Sexual Orientation and Gender Identity, have the right to marry and family life," without interpreting the statues such as Special Marriage Act or Foreign Marriage Act, the non-heterosexual couples still cannot have their marriage legally recognised, and cannot avail the rights, privileges, obligations and responsibilities of the married couple.

In short, anti-discrimination law needs to be passed by Parliament of India and/or State Legislative Assembly to give effect to the Constitutional Right. "Activists" aren't trying to close any "loopholes," because Constitutional Right to Protection from discrimination on the grounds of Sexual Orientation and Gender Identity, does not translate into penalty and consequences for discriminating based on Sexual Orientation and Gender Identity. For instance,

Section 3 to 7 of the Protection of Civil Rights Act of 1955 imposes criminal penalties for discriminating persons based on caste.

On the other hand, the Transgender Persons (Protection of Rights) Act, 2019 does not impose any criminal or financial penalties for discriminating against transgender persons in the Healthcare, Education, and Housing.

Without legal consequences for discriminating based on the grounds of Sexual Orientation and Gender Identity, the Constitutional Right to Protection from discrimination on the grounds of Sexual Orientation and Gender Identity, can merely, at the best case scenerio, allow a discriminated person to approach the Supreme Court or High Court for a writ of Mandamus to enforce the Constitutional Right. The victim of discrimination will not get any justice in the form of compensation or damages for the discrimination, nor will the perpetrator be punished with imprisonment.

Anti-discrimination laws enact the legal consequences for discrimination, not just recognition of prohibition of discrimination. They serve as a deterrent. Wiki6995 (talk) 08:23, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

As for Sri Lanka, I still fail to understand how it is ambiguous. Their anti-gay law is still there, it has not been overturned or repealed. It is simply not enforced. Why should Sri Lanka be treated any differently to Bhutan to other countries where the laws are not enforced? Plus your own sources state that the police occasionally still use the law to harrass and arbitrarily detain LGBT people. Panda2018 0 (talk) 12:38, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

@Hindianu: A good faith disagreement on facts and substance and how to present them isn't vandalism. Both of you, though, are engaged in edit warring, and you may have both crossed over the WP:3RR threshold and are vulnerable to being blocked. Please take the discussion to the article's talk page, where Hindianu got it rolling, and stop editing the article until a consensus is reached, even if you need to seek dispute resolution to get there. Largoplazo (talk) 16:05, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

WP:BOLDAVOID

You have been citing this in edit summaries while making edits in direct opposition to it. Please read the third example pairs there and then go self-revert. --JBL (talk) 14:38, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

How are my edits in "direct opposition to it"? I have removed links in bold. This is quite clearly stated "Links should not be placed in the boldface reiteration of the title in the opening sentence of a lead." Panda2018 0 (talk) 14:42, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

Also quite clearly stated is "if the article's title is absent from the first sentence, do not apply the bold style to related text that does appear". --JBL (talk) 14:43, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

Well then, let's simply add a title. Panda2018 0 (talk) 14:44, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

Now you are bolding random phrases that are not the title of the article! Please, read WP:BOLDAVOID, it is very clear and the guidance it gives is extremely reasonable. --JBL (talk) 14:51, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

It is the title! They are not "random phrases", as you put it, but the institution provided by the recognition. Panda2018 0 (talk) 14:54, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

I have no idea what this means. Each of our articles has a title. The thing that gets bolded in the first sentence, if anything, is the title of the article. You are adding or preserving bold applied to phrases or words that are not the titles of the articles in which they appear. Don't do that! By contrast, in this edit of yours the phrase in bold actually is the title of the article. --JBL (talk) 15:00, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

P.S. I have tried to preserve the other parts of your edits that were improvements, so the vast majority of my "undo"s are not straight reverts. --JBL (talk) 15:13, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

Jesus, you are dense and have a lack of will to understand or comprise. Civil unions are the institution which provides for the "recognition of same-sex unions in Italy". Either way, I will now go back to every article and readd a title in line with WP:BOLDAVOID, which I am sure you could have done yourself, but that would have been too revolutionary or taxing. Panda2018 0 (talk) 15:16, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

I am dense because you act as if you don't understand the meaning of the phrase "title of the article"?! Oy vey. Anyhow, you are welcome to do what you propose -- I have no interest in doing it myself because it doesn't make articles easier to read or understand (whereas, removing bold from random disconnected phrases makes articles easier to read). Please keep in mind the second admonition at WP:BOLDAVOID ("If the article's title does not lend itself to being used easily and naturally in the opening sentence, the wording should not be distorted in an effort to include it.") -- your first few edits along these lines seem fine in this regard. --JBL (talk) 15:30, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

On the other hand, this edit introduces unnecessary redundancy just in order to force the title of the article into the first sentence. There is a simple principle here. --JBL (talk) 15:33, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

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SSM in NL

Could you present your evidence in the NL thread on the SSM talk page? I have two sources that say there will be SSM in NL once the legislature modifies the code to comply w the SC ruling. Two others state that NL has SSM. I don't know which is correct. Have there been any marriages? — kwami (talk) 22:24, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

LGBTI rights in Nepal

Concerning the names of media and publications, they are not repeated but are actually two different books. One is just a Nepal Bhasa book while the other is trilingual book. Their news sources are different. Please also refer to references before making edits. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BDSnepal (talk • contribs) 12:57, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

Aruba

According to the section "Non-equal treatment of married couples" in our article, registered SSM conducted elsewhere in the kingdom are not treated as marriage, unlike Israel -- indeed, from our description, it would appear that they are accorded less rights than registered SSM in Italy. Can you provide any RS's that such SSM are treated as full marriage in Aruba? Either one of us could then correct the misinformation in Same-sex marriage in Aruba, Curaçao and Sint Maarten. — kwami (talk) 05:26, 15 April 2019 (UTC)

Lgbt history in Mexico

Hello I was planning to create a Timeline of LGBT history in Mexico (which i did now) u can find it in the history section that is still there I was going to leave the history of precolumbian and moved to the history part that there is now And move the timeline section to a new timeline page (I hope its clear) A pity now that there is some editor who erased all the first history part containing timeline And now its blocked and i cannot find it to move it to the new intended article of timeline of LGBT History in Mexico Any idea how can that valuable content of the first removed history can be found and moved to the new page Any help please Thank you AdamPrideTN (talk) 14:14, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

As the admin explained to you on your talk page, the content you added had copyright problems. If the material really does infringe copyright, then it can't be here, unless the copyright holder agrees to have it here and satisfies all the requirements given at WP:Donating copyrighted materials. If you don't understand the nature of the copyright problems, or you disagree that there are any, you'll need to discuss that with the administrator. Largoplazo (talk) 14:24, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

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Nepal terminology

Thanks for tailoring the language in the Terminology section at LGBT rights in Nepal‎‎ to cover terms specific to understanding the legal environment. Largoplazo (talk) 14:17, 23 June 2019 (UTC)

Estonia

Thanks for the refs. The second one has the key wording "since January 2016 numerous partnerships have been registered based on the act", which, based on RS, trumps my more recent correspondence (feb 2019) with a human-rights group that people are still not free to get CUs. The whole situation's so confused that, like Armenia and many of the tribal jurisdictions in the US, we're probably going to have to wing it for a while. — kwami (talk) 22:29, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

ILGA 2019 Report

https://ilga.org/state-sponsored-homophobia-report

Hi the latest 2019 ilga report is very important and highly big and informative Many lgbt country pages in africa asia and (even americas) need to be updated urhently Take ur time and check and hope u can update the countries Some unapdated even from 2011

There is also the blog erasing 76 Like this just write the name of country and erasing 76 in google like that

Also there is The U.S. Department of State's 2019 Human Rights Report

I would do it happily but i'm focusing much on the translating English LGBT content pages into Arabic all the time and can't much

Thx good luck (no pressure of course, just a suggestion) AdamPrideTN (talk) 08:33, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

LGBT updates

http://www.equalityontrial.com/2019/06/25/625-open-thread/#idc-container

https://mobile.twitter.com/lgbtmarriage

https://m.facebook.com/nelfa.aisbl/

Are one of the best sites woth sources that provides daily updates about lgbt rights (some that go unedited for weeks)

I would advice you to check them from time to time for updates

I would do what i can happily but i'm focusing much on the translating English LGBT content pages into Arabic all the time and can't much

Thx good luck (no pressure of course, just a suggestion) AdamPrideTN (talk) 08:56, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

SSM on res

Hi Panda2018 0. If you have sources for the factual changes you made, please provide them. Meanwhile I'm reverting to what is supported by the sources we do have. — kwami (talk) 12:07, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

You need to read the sources before changing factual statements. When a tribe does not conduct marriage, and you say they do, or they accept SSM, and you say they don't, that's a bit ridiculous. Especially when you revert me when I correct your errors. If you were an IP I would assume you were a vandal and have you blocked. Don't edit until you know what you're doing. — kwami (talk) 12:50, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

I suggest you read WP:CIVIL. The wordings of the four tribal codes explicitly use the term "man and woman" when referring to marriage. The sources provided in the article support this. Here is the Crow Tribal Code, for instance, "at section 10-1-104 that marriage is a consensual relationship between a man and a woman". Panda2018 0 (talk) 13:05, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

Yes, they do. (Well, three of them do.) But they also accept state marriage. Which means that they accept SSM. "Yes/No" is just gobbledygook. If you want to create another icon, equivalent to purple on the map, that's fine. But if someone checks the table to see whether s.o. accepts SSM or not, and they can't tell your edit doesn't tell them anything, then that's not useful as a reference tool. — kwami (talk) 13:12, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

Gay couples cannot marry on the reservations themselves. The "Yes" seems to indicate that they can, which is false. The "Yes/No" serves the purpose of informing the lectors that same-sex marriages performed outside the reservation are recognized, but they cannot take place on the reservation itself. Panda2018 0 (talk) 13:15, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

As for the Hopi Tribe, you are wrong. The Tribal Code does address marriage. There are sources in the article to confirm this. Again, I can only encourage you to read them. "Marriage is an institution according to any practice recognized under Hopi law", according to the Code. Panda2018 0 (talk) 13:17, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

In the case of Eastern Cherokee, no-one can marry on the reservation. Well, they can have a wedding, but that's not a legal marriage. So it's more like not allowing gay people into your town hall.

As for Hopi, I called the court and asked. Of course, they may be wrong about their own law. The code you point to specifies that traditional marriages are valid (as historically there's been attempts to invalidate traditional marriages on many res). But it doesn't define marriage other than that. — kwami (talk) 13:21, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

That's not what the article says. According to the Eastern Cherokee section, couples can receive a marriage license from the tribal court if the parties are "a man and a woman". As for Hopi, it seems very likely that they messed up, because the Tribal Code quite clearly regulates marriage. Panda2018 0 (talk) 13:33, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

But you're right, we could definitely use an icon for off-res only SSM. Problem is, in many cases we simply don't know. We know that a res accepts state marriages, but not whether there's been a ruling on whether SSM is acceptable under tribal law. So going this route would only add lots of question marks to the table. Easier to specify that 'yes' means either on-res or per the state. — kwami (talk) 13:24, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

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So, of the countries that have SSM, which have marriage equality (I believe the US does) and which have lesser rights (like Ecuador)? — kwami (talk) 04:06, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

Sorry, but this isn't supposed to be fiction. A foreign court is irrelevant if the country decides not to abide by their rulings -- otherwise we'd need to include nearly all of Latin America as having SSM. If Romania enforces the ruling, or announces that they will, then we can include them.

I don't mind the fix to Bermuda. You can make a separate edit for that. — kwami (talk) 11:30, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

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BangJan1999, Hi! Just had a read through the proper procedures on when to delete redirects when they block page moves. "If it has a minor page history, generally meaning it only existed as a redirect, and was never a duplicate article, never had content that was cut and pasted to the present title, nor merged there, it may simply be deleted." I believe in this case, the article Same-sex marriage in Slovenia has a minor page history, and should be deleted. This would make way for Recognition of same-sex unions in Slovenia to be moved to the aforementioned title to reflect the recent legalisation of same-sex marriage in that country. Panda2018 0 (talk) 23:10, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

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@Panda2018 0 Panda 2018, you removed my contributions to the Same sex marriage page in Sloveni,a where I better explained that it is not entirely sure that the ruling makes smae sex marriage effective immediately. Check the RTVslo article. "The ruling is immediately effective" may refer to other provisions of the ruling (eg. the adoption by same-sex couples of children from outside te couple). I think you're reading the news too optimistically. If the Court had struck down traditional marriage 3 days ago, why then would it need to give 6 months to the parliameet to change the law? Touyats (talk) 16:44, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

Hi, I can’t find any sources confirming what you are saying though. Every source I have come across, in English or Slovene, states that the court struck down the ban. "May refer to other provisions of the ruling". We would need better confirmation that may. The court can strike down a statute but it can still remain on the books. Panda2018 0 (talk) 16:53, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

Correct, I have the same problem, the wording of the articles is amiguous. Also, all the articles look very similar to each other, as if they were taken from the same source, and I fear it may be a brief press release that oversimplifies the ruling. I just checked the

Zakon o partnerski zvezi (ZPZ) law text (the smae-sex civil partnership law) and the Družinski zakonik (DZ) law text (the Family Code, where marriage is defined), along with what the RTVslo article says the Court sentence declared unconstitutional, and indeed it does seem that the key part of the Family/marriage law blocking same-sex marriage (art 22, first dash) is declared uncostitutional, along with the "wife and husband" text of article 3. Also, and I'm worried about it, the Civil partnership law is not struck down completely, which would be instead a good idea IMHO as it risks creating a parallel law on "unions" between same-sex people, with the risk of same-sex marriage being voted down in, for example, a constitutinal referendum to define "marriage" as betwen "man and woman" in the constituion. This is to say that i fear that the issue os same-sex marriage in Slovenia is still not over and crystallized. Is there an expert in Slovenia law reading? Another issues that I see is that the chnages removes the ban on adopition by same-sex civil partnership partners, but it does not remove the ban on assisted reproduction; so it looks like that assisted reproduction will be now available to same-sex marriages, but this seems too good to be true? Touyats (talk) 17:42, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

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http://www.pisrs.si/Pis.web/pregledPredpisa?id=ZAKO7434

https://www.uradni-list.si/glasilo-uradni-list-rs/vsebina/2017-01-0729/druzinski-zakonik-dz/#(pogoji%C2%A0za%C2%A0obstoj)

The RTVslo article interesting part.

In two separate decisions, the Constitutional Court annulled the first sentence of the third paragraph of Article 2 of the Law on Partnership and the first indent of Article 22 of the Family Code. In addition , it found that the first paragraph of Article 3 of the Family Code, in the part in which it states that a marriage is a life union of a husband and wife, is inconsistent with the constitution. The first paragraph of Article 213 and Article 223 of the Family Code are also inconsistent with the Constitution. Touyats (talk) 17:45, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

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