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DYK for Nairn Transport Company
On 4 May 2014, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Nairn Transport Company, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that two Harley-Davidson dealers from New Zealand started the Nairn Transport Company, which ran Buicks and Cadillacs across the desert from Beirut to Baghdad? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Nairn Transport Company. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page. |
—HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 19:59, 4 May 2014 (UTC) 20:17, 4 May 2014 (UTC)
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- Well saved. And thank you for your efforts on Monika Kinley - another DYK nom in prospect... Edwardx (talk) 23:21, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
- Thank you. I did a load of one line stubs just to finish the job. I then checked the list and discovered that there are over 200 missing! If you want to bump up your article count with some stubs, don't let me stop you... Philafrenzy (talk) 23:37, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks for your kind offer. If I want to boost my count, there are plenty of Grade II pubs in London, and then there's the rest of the UK.Edwardx (talk) 23:52, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
- Don't blame you, it's not interesting work unless you do them properly and even I can't face another 200 philatelist bios. Philafrenzy (talk) 23:54, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks for your kind offer. If I want to boost my count, there are plenty of Grade II pubs in London, and then there's the rest of the UK.Edwardx (talk) 23:52, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
- Thank you. I did a load of one line stubs just to finish the job. I then checked the list and discovered that there are over 200 missing! If you want to bump up your article count with some stubs, don't let me stop you... Philafrenzy (talk) 23:37, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
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Snowmen
There are three generations of notable Snowmen. Started Emanuel Snowman last night and I already have a DYK idea along the lines of "...that Emanuel Snowman (didn't celebrate Christmas, but) was famous for dealing in Easter eggs". However, it may be difficult to explicitly cite the segment I've left in brackets. Any assistance would be welcome. Edwardx (talk) 11:11, 3 May 2014 (UTC)
- I will check it out later. Interesting name, I once had a client Birdseye and discovered it is actually quite a common name. Philafrenzy (talk) 11:15, 3 May 2014 (UTC)
- Just got your joke about Christmas! Don't think you can actually put that forward though. There definitely is a hook there about the eggs. The sale of property appropriated by the Soviets was actually quite controversial. We don't know if Snowman had any moral qualms about it. I suppose the counter-argument is that the Russian royal family got it through exploiting the peasantry in the first place. I have a very thick book about Faberge with plenty about Snowman in the index but I haven't had time to go through it yet. Philafrenzy (talk) 18:16, 3 May 2014 (UTC)
- Agreed, and I wasn't really being serious. One has to tread very carefully with humour here on WP. Perhaps "despite his surname" or nothing at all. Yes, it can see it have must have been rather contentious in the 1920s, so near to the revolution, and I will be interested in what you can uncover. Anyway, a simple Snowman/Easter hook may well get more clicks. I've also started pages on his son and grandson. The son Kenneth Snowman appears as himself in a James Bond story, on which the film Octopussy is based. So, could be a decent hook there too. Edwardx (talk) 23:26, 3 May 2014 (UTC)
- The Times obviously thought filling his Gladstone type bag with his "haul" was highly dubious. They more or less accused him of looting, though as I say, you have to ask where the wealth came from in the first place. He seems to have been left leaning and possibly was sympathetic to the Soviets, though that doesn't explain the royal connections. One Russian aristocrat was shown a fancy piece just acquired by a collector and recognised it as her own, where upon it was quickly removed from her grasp and put away again. You could do Emanuel Snowman once sold an Easter Egg for ££££. He also helped Jews fleeing from the Nazis. Haven't had a chance to look at the others, though the son is also in the book. Philafrenzy (talk) 23:56, 3 May 2014 (UTC)
- Better "sold an Easter Egg that is now worth $millions". Philafrenzy (talk) 00:10, 4 May 2014 (UTC)
- Went "short and snappy", but expanded the article in line with your suggestion and am offering the $9.6 million world record egg as an ALT1 hook. Edwardx (talk) 18:37, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks, I am not sure about 1927, my book suggests 1925 and other sources say c. 1927. Will look again later. Philafrenzy (talk) 18:47, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
- I've my doubts too, but there are reliable sources and it's hardly a major issue. Good luck. Now working on his son Kenneth Snowman again. Probably a James Bond hook in prospect... 18:59, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
- Ian Fleming seems to think 1927, see his quote in Kenneth Snowman. Edwardx (talk) 23:50, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
- That's a work of fiction written in 1966. I have a first edition in fact from when they couldn't give them away. Wish I had bought a box full. Where did Fleming get his info from? Philafrenzy (talk) 23:55, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
- I've my doubts too, but there are reliable sources and it's hardly a major issue. Good luck. Now working on his son Kenneth Snowman again. Probably a James Bond hook in prospect... 18:59, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
- My book, which seems authoritative, is specific that Emanuel acquired nine eggs between 1925 and 1938. That's consistent with his first trip being in 1925 and his last trip being in 1939. He probably acquired most of them early. Annoyingly, my first edition Fleming book does not include the relevant James Bond story as it was only in the later editions. I can bring both books to the meetup if they interest you. Philafrenzy (talk) 02:19, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
- I don't think the Fleming will help as it doesn't contain the relevant story. And I've found the relevant extracts online anyway. The Faberge book might be interesting, but I suspect rather heavy. Looking around, there have been quite a few scandals and lawsuits about the (mis)attribution of Faberge eggs in the past, a few involving Snowman, but I'm steering clear of adding that sort of content. Thanks for your edits to Kenneth. I can now include you in the DYK nom. How about "Kenneth Snowman appears as himself in Ian Fleming's James Bond stories, by far the longest such appearance of a real person"?
- Yes the book is rather heavy, it's the weight of Kenneth's virulent diatribe against modern art that makes it so. The bits I put in the article were the nice bits. You can include the scandals as long as you avoid living people but they might seem sensationalist if not balanced with other content. There is a great Bondesque portrait here for a fair use pic. "DYK that jeweller Kenneth Snowman was one of the few people to appear as himself in a James Bond story?" Philafrenzy (talk) 13:47, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks, your hook improves on mine. But, do we need "jeweller"? I can't see it adding clicks and perhaps having a little more mystery as to who he is might could encourage people to find out more. So, I'll go with it, less the one word. I've already reviewed an article in prepartion, so I'll go ahead with the DYK nom shortly. As for the great photo, please add it to the page, but we can't use it in the hook, as "the main page can have only freely licensed pictures". See: Wikipedia:Did_you_know#Images. Edwardx (talk) 14:27, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
- OK. Philafrenzy (talk) 14:30, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
- Better "sold an Easter Egg that is now worth $millions". Philafrenzy (talk) 00:10, 4 May 2014 (UTC)
- The Times obviously thought filling his Gladstone type bag with his "haul" was highly dubious. They more or less accused him of looting, though as I say, you have to ask where the wealth came from in the first place. He seems to have been left leaning and possibly was sympathetic to the Soviets, though that doesn't explain the royal connections. One Russian aristocrat was shown a fancy piece just acquired by a collector and recognised it as her own, where upon it was quickly removed from her grasp and put away again. You could do Emanuel Snowman once sold an Easter Egg for ££££. He also helped Jews fleeing from the Nazis. Haven't had a chance to look at the others, though the son is also in the book. Philafrenzy (talk) 23:56, 3 May 2014 (UTC)
- Agreed, and I wasn't really being serious. One has to tread very carefully with humour here on WP. Perhaps "despite his surname" or nothing at all. Yes, it can see it have must have been rather contentious in the 1920s, so near to the revolution, and I will be interested in what you can uncover. Anyway, a simple Snowman/Easter hook may well get more clicks. I've also started pages on his son and grandson. The son Kenneth Snowman appears as himself in a James Bond story, on which the film Octopussy is based. So, could be a decent hook there too. Edwardx (talk) 23:26, 3 May 2014 (UTC)
- Just got your joke about Christmas! Don't think you can actually put that forward though. There definitely is a hook there about the eggs. The sale of property appropriated by the Soviets was actually quite controversial. We don't know if Snowman had any moral qualms about it. I suppose the counter-argument is that the Russian royal family got it through exploiting the peasantry in the first place. I have a very thick book about Faberge with plenty about Snowman in the index but I haven't had time to go through it yet. Philafrenzy (talk) 18:16, 3 May 2014 (UTC)
Creating bio stubs
Hallo, Please remember that if you create a stub with a title with a disambiguation, you need to provide an access route to it from the undisambiguated version. I've just added a hatnote at Gilbert Collett and turned a redirect into a dab page at Maurice Blake (given the two spellings of Carey/Cary in those two, I wonder if one spelling is wrong and also whether they were related ... but that's another story). If you could also stick a nationality into the {{bio-stub}}, eg {{UK-bio-stub}} or {{US-bio-stub}}, it would keep them out of the huge list of bio-stubs to sort at Category:People stubs, but that's less important. Thanks. PamD 09:26, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
DYK for Kenneth Snowman
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Better late than never. Thanks again for the tips on fair use and sourcing. Edwardx (talk) 21:53, 11 May 2014 (UTC) |
- Thank you Edward! Very kind. I hope you can make something of the yearbooks. Philafrenzy (talk) 22:11, 11 May 2014 (UTC)
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Try pasting urls into here.♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:08, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks. Philafrenzy (talk) 20:04, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
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DYK for Emil Tamsen
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DYK for Emanuel Snowman
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DYK for Dieter Bortfeldt
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DYK for Lawrence Burd
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Mozart and the Turtle King
DYK noms done. Do we know what the Royal Warrant was for? I imagine that readers will realise it must have been for meat rather than pet turtles. Edwardx (talk) 21:09, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks, good find on Trove. No we don't know, it was drawn from the advert. The whole business is quite unsavoury in a way isn't it? Transporting the animals, most of which died, then keeping them in his cellar until he killed them and turned them into soup? Did you notice the Ghana link, he may have imported via the West Indies more than turtles. Philafrenzy (talk) 21:14, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
- Yes, it is rather gruesome. But apart from the endangered species thing, is modern day pig factory farming any better? Edwardx (talk) 21:23, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
- I agree, but I startled to feel quite repulsed by it as I was writing it. I think it was the bit about the Hannibal Lecter-ish cellar. Philafrenzy (talk) 21:26, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
- Yes, it is rather gruesome. But apart from the endangered species thing, is modern day pig factory farming any better? Edwardx (talk) 21:23, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
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Maurice Burrus
I'm going to put the draft up for review. I have not found any additional sources for his non-philatelic life. ww2censor (talk) 18:08, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
- Sorry, I never quite got to looking at it but I do have a chapter on him in the Bierman book which may shed some light when I get round to reading it. Philafrenzy (talk) 18:12, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks. It's now here. You might even consider doing the review. ww2censor (talk) 21:57, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
- OK, in a few days though. Philafrenzy (talk) 21:59, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
- Based on this post it should be reverted and I am waiting for a reply but I see you have preempted it. ww2censor (talk) 10:08, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
- I was unaware of that conversation and have just minutes ago created the article! Hope you don't mind. I will leave the rest to you. Philafrenzy (talk) 10:10, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
- I suppose I expected you to presume I would complain. We can just cut and paste the rest in if nothing happens today. Thanks ww2censor (talk) 11:50, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
- OK, I will leave it to you to expand then add my bit when you are done. There are over 100 more if you are interested - just cut and paste and tweak - that's all I do for most of them. If we wait for each one to be done properly they will remain red forever. Philafrenzy (talk) 12:17, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
- I know you have been working hard on many of these but putting stubs up for draft review is likely unnecessary and wasteful for the creator but some better articles might have been an idea if I thought they would get a fair rap. I have some other biographies, mainly non-philatelic though, that I occasionally work on which you might be able to assist with if you have access to more, or different, literature than I have. Such as, Charles Povey. Generally I will not create stubs but try to expend them until they are at least a start class that could also be nominated for DYK, as you have done on occasions.
- I was unaware of that conversation and have just minutes ago created the article! Hope you don't mind. I will leave the rest to you. Philafrenzy (talk) 10:10, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
- Based on this post it should be reverted and I am waiting for a reply but I see you have preempted it. ww2censor (talk) 10:08, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
- OK, in a few days though. Philafrenzy (talk) 21:59, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks. It's now here. You might even consider doing the review. ww2censor (talk) 21:57, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
- BTW, I see that you are adding the {{WPBiography}} template to people articles, which is a redirect to {{WikiProject Biography}} and the later appears to now be the common format. By now I think you are well able to assess the article class and should add that for any project assessment banner as well as the importance field even if you don't assess other projects you do have a good concept of the philatelic importance. The biography project banner could also do with the "living" field being filled in with =yes/no. I've refined a few that I came across but think it would save us all time if you do it at one time you first add the banners. Thanks & good luck. ww2censor (talk) 13:05, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
- I don't generally believe in marking my own homework, but I can do that and use the other template. Povey is interesting and I may well have something on it. It is my belief that every one of those stubs is expandable to DYK level fairly easily as in my experience people who are notable in one way often excel at something else too, Lawrence Burd is a case in point who had a one line entry in the ABPS Who's Who that was distinctly unpromising. I will keep doing them and if anyone complains just expand them. Philafrenzy (talk) 13:16, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
- You obviously saw that Justberry pasted in my draft and you have also done a little work on it. Unfortunately DYKs must be nominated within 5 days of being put into mainspace, so starting a stub and expanding it later may not really work. Though I know you are permitted to expand an article by 5 and then nominate it but I don't know that works for stubs. I'll check. You are doing us all a favour and I don't think that accessing an article for class rating is a problem for knowledgeable editors but I understand not wanting to assess the importance; however I think that Burrus is worth at least of mid-importance. Let me know if you have any Povey info I can use. Thanks and cheers ww2censor (talk) 18:22, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
Another DYK for you?
How about Prince Rupert Loewenstein, the Rolling Stones manager. Plenty to write about, and lots of hook ideas. We have until 27 May. Edwardx (talk) 09:43, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
- But he is not an ancient historian (or a historian of the ancient)... I will take a look. Philafrenzy (talk) 10:59, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
- Did mostly tidying. More later. I see his book is on Amazon from £1.50. I agree with Jagger - gross breach of confidentiality if he disclosed more than trivialities. Philafrenzy (talk) 12:01, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
- Yes, maybe not one of your main areas of interest, but an intriguing character nonetheless. Thanks for pushing him over the 1500 character DYK threshhold. Edwardx (talk) 12:04, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
- Happy to look at any area (apart from sport). It's good not to get into a rut just doing one type of thing. Philafrenzy (talk) 12:19, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
- Sport - highly unlikely. Loewenstein has led me to Christopher Gibbs, the first man in England to wear flared trousers! Plenty of DYK hook possibilities. As it's a BLP, I'm not sure whether to include some rather racy stuff about him from Keith Richards' autobiography... Edwardx (talk) 18:14, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
- Nice find. I have done some as you know but I fear that we have not nearly done him justice. Some pics would be nice. I toned down the flared trousers bit. Seemed to me the source was saying he was first in the 1960s, not first ever. Philafrenzy (talk) 21:56, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks. Yes, there looks to be much more to be pieced together. Agreed, flares existed before the 60s. Pics would be great. If nothing else, I can find out where he lived on Cheyne Walk and can photograph that myself. Edwardx (talk) 22:10, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
- Doesn't he still have a London home? There? Philafrenzy (talk) 22:23, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
- Quite possibly he still does. The 1960s one looks to be a first floor flat at either 96 or 100 Cheyne Walk (but there has been some re-numbering). See [1]. Edwardx (talk) 22:37, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
- This might be too intrusive for a BLP Edward, particularly an antiques dealer. Philafrenzy (talk) 22:39, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
- Agreed, but I'm almost certain that he doesn't have a flat there anymore. I will investigate further... Edwardx (talk) 22:46, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
- You are determined to go on a photoshoot I see. The street may lend itself to a lengthwise shot? I know it is curved. We have no good street length pics in the article. Are you interested in doing Lord Mayor's Banquet? It is potentially quite highly linked and a good London topic. PM speaks. There is a fair use invitation in my George W. Eve. Philafrenzy (talk) 23:00, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
- I need the exercise, plus I have to somehow justify the purchase of my new camera. Yes, I would be up for the Lord Mayor's Banquet. Your idea, so you should get the credit for starting it. Edwardx (talk) 09:56, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
- I thought you might have a new camera. Philafrenzy (talk) 10:03, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
- Doesn't he still have a London home? There? Philafrenzy (talk) 22:23, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks. Yes, there looks to be much more to be pieced together. Agreed, flares existed before the 60s. Pics would be great. If nothing else, I can find out where he lived on Cheyne Walk and can photograph that myself. Edwardx (talk) 22:10, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
- Nice find. I have done some as you know but I fear that we have not nearly done him justice. Some pics would be nice. I toned down the flared trousers bit. Seemed to me the source was saying he was first in the 1960s, not first ever. Philafrenzy (talk) 21:56, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
- Sport - highly unlikely. Loewenstein has led me to Christopher Gibbs, the first man in England to wear flared trousers! Plenty of DYK hook possibilities. As it's a BLP, I'm not sure whether to include some rather racy stuff about him from Keith Richards' autobiography... Edwardx (talk) 18:14, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
- Happy to look at any area (apart from sport). It's good not to get into a rut just doing one type of thing. Philafrenzy (talk) 12:19, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
- Yes, maybe not one of your main areas of interest, but an intriguing character nonetheless. Thanks for pushing him over the 1500 character DYK threshhold. Edwardx (talk) 12:04, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
- Did mostly tidying. More later. I see his book is on Amazon from £1.50. I agree with Jagger - gross breach of confidentiality if he disclosed more than trivialities. Philafrenzy (talk) 12:01, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
E. J. Rapson
I've added two coin images from Commons. Can't find a photo of him though. I like your DYK hook idea about him identifying coins just by feel, but can't find a citation for that. Help! Edwardx (talk) 09:58, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
- Good thinking on the coins. I added the best pic I could find. Do you have access to The Times archive now? Philafrenzy (talk) 10:26, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
- Yes, through my Wellcome Library card - thanks for reminding me. That pic is better than nothing. Edwardx (talk) 11:13, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
- I will join the Wellcome Library, I don't know why I have never got around to it. Not much more to add to Rapson, I suspect. The other academic work section could possibly be expanded a little. He seems to have married his childhood sweetheart (?) which would make a nice story if we had any sources for it. But my free newspaper calls. Later. Philafrenzy (talk) 13:32, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
- Yes, through my Wellcome Library card - thanks for reminding me. That pic is better than nothing. Edwardx (talk) 11:13, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
Prince Rupert Loewenstein
Today is the deadline for the DYK nom for Prince Rupert Loewenstein (hint hint). Article is long enough, but there is still plenty to add about his fascinating life. And it connects with Christopher Gibbs too, which I will get back to next. Edwardx (talk)
- I will try to find some time in my busy schedule. Philafrenzy (talk) 10:52, 27 May 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks, especially for the photo. Edwardx (talk) 11:59, 27 May 2014 (UTC)
- I will try to add more. I think you will find that the Stones were customers of Leopold Joseph bank. Philafrenzy (talk) 12:17, 27 May 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks, especially for the photo. Edwardx (talk) 11:59, 27 May 2014 (UTC)
Stop it already. The citation also verifies her status as an art historian. You are welcome to move the citation around, but removing it is irritating and against policy. In fact, I just reinstated it by hand since I though I hadn't added it correctly. In addition, there's some doubt about her status as an art historian, and a citation from a peer-reviewed academic journal strengthens her case. Your unexplained revert of my other edit is irritating as well, and I think you should note that it uglifies the article. Drmies (talk) 21:03, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
- Now leave it be please. Few things are more counterproductive than the removal of reliable sources. Drmies (talk) 21:04, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
- Your edits seem a little eccentric. The publications edit was bungled and why do we need a journal cite that she is an art historian at all? And does one from that source even prove anything? Philafrenzy (talk) 21:05, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
- As I just wrote on my talk page, yes, we need that. See commentary here, [[2]]. And yes, I believe such a citation proves that she can reliably be called "art historian" and included in the relevant category and list(s). Thank you for not reverting again, and again, feel free to tweak or move it someplace. Drmies (talk) 14:25, 27 May 2014 (UTC)
- Your edits seem a little eccentric. The publications edit was bungled and why do we need a journal cite that she is an art historian at all? And does one from that source even prove anything? Philafrenzy (talk) 21:05, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
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Prawn cocktail
If you're looking for something a bit different, I'm on my very own Prawn cocktail offensive. 488 characters before I started, so 2440 needed. Should be easy enough, and plenty of good hook possibilites. Edwardx (talk) 14:32, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
- So you have abandoned the idea of writing about the Co-operative movement in Rochdale (or Black Pudding)? Philafrenzy (talk) 14:35, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
- It may have started as a southern delicacy, but I believe that it is avaliable up north nowadays, at least as a crisp flavour. Black pudding is quite well-covered, but be warned, the photos are revolting. Edwardx (talk) 15:56, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
- Yes, they seem to have gone for the fry-up version rather than the posh restaurant version of black pudding so popular down south. The first picture does something to explain the level of life expectancy in Scotland. Philafrenzy (talk) 17:33, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
- I will look at the prawns later. Philafrenzy (talk) 20:06, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
- It may have started as a southern delicacy, but I believe that it is avaliable up north nowadays, at least as a crisp flavour. Black pudding is quite well-covered, but be warned, the photos are revolting. Edwardx (talk) 15:56, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
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I have looked into each of your concerns, and at the image you added, and have made an edit with an edit summary explaining the rationale for each one. The article has gone through a GAN, during which the section sizes and the lead size were looked at against Wikipedia expectations and guidelines. It was felt the sizes were appropriate. The image you wish to place in the article would create an image clutter for such a short article, and would necessitate the removal of an existing image. As there is already an image showing the location of the street, and this image additionally provides historical information, and so is providing more information than the image you wish to add, there is no benefit and some negativity to adding the modern map. If you are still concerned, you may want to raise issues on the talkpage, or - as the article is currently being discussed for Featured Article - you could do a review against the Wikipedia:Featured article criteria at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Savile Row/archive1. SilkTork ✔Tea time 07:13, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
- I have no concerns with the content, apart from the lack of a modern map which I will be adding soon. That really is an essential part of a London "street article" in my view and helps to put the street in context. You are wrong that adding one image to this article necessitates the removal of another. The article is actually quite short of images. I fear you might be exercising ownership. Removing all of someone else's edits is characteristic of ownership. The review is being undertaken by you and you are the only contributor to it on the talk page. The sections are far too long for comfortable reading and the lead is about a quarter of the size. The lack of sections actually make it very hard to find what you want. I will be editing the article further. I hope we can continue to discuss the matter here or on the talk page. Thanks. Philafrenzy (talk) 10:20, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
I have taken the article off my watchlist, and suggested that the current FAC be closed, so your editing can continue unopposed. No worries. SilkTork ✔Tea time 06:48, 9 June 2014 (UTC)
- Please put it back on your watch list and participate in editing it. I am sure you have much to contribute. Philafrenzy (talk) 08:22, 9 June 2014 (UTC)
DYK queue
If you look at Template:Did_you_know/Queue, you will see that "our" hooks occupy the last spot (for the quirky or amusing hook), for three upcoming sets in a row. We might be doing something right. Edwardx (talk) 13:01, 9 June 2014 (UTC)
- So I see. Good stuff. Philafrenzy (talk) 13:05, 9 June 2014 (UTC)
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