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RfC United States same-sex marriage map

I opened up an RfC for the U.S. same-sex marriage map due to the complicated situation of Kansas: RfC: How should we color Kansas? Prcc27 (talk) 10:27, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

Lovely. I'm going to stay out of this one, I think, as I'm not familiar with the situation in Kansas and am unfortunately short of time atm. – Philosopher ^{Let us reason together.} 23:27, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

Category:New Year's on television

Category:New Year's on television, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. ViperSnake151  Talk  04:56, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. I moved one of its parent categories up a level, but otherwise, I have no thoughts on this - I was just the guy who closed/implemented the previous CfD. Actually, ViperSnake151, it looks like you were the one who originally created the category at its previous location of Category:New Year's on Television (User talk:ViperSnake151/archive4#CfD nomination of Category:New Year's on Television). Go figure. And Happy Editing! – Philosopher ^{Let us reason together.} 23:22, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

Your recent misguided deletion

I created an article for the FIRST fucking time with many references and you deleted the article immediately. If you could see clearly you should have noticed that WP:G4 speaks about recreation of an UNIMPROVED article. I settled the case for the LGA chairmen being elected in the Nigerian parliamentary election, 2011 and also added an additional claim of notability being the General Secretary of the Association of Local Government Chairman, a federal political body. I have recreated many deleted articles in the past and I did not go through deletion review, so stop confusing yourself. Don't ever delete articles with many reliable references again without seeking consensus, especially when an editor is creating the article for the first time. Be warned!!!!! Darreg (talk) 21:44, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

I don't know what you mean by "created an article for the first [] time", but Ayodeji Abass Aleshinloye had just been deleted via a deletion discussion before you re-created it – a discussion which you took part in, no less. The new article had fewer references than the deleted version, and with the exception of the chairman note, was pretty much identical in substance (if shorter) than the deleted version. This, combined with your attempt to continue the closed AfD on the article talk page (which I left undeleted, as it referred to that discussion and so didn't meet WP:G8 to my mind) and the proximity in time to the previous deletion made it appear that you were simply trying to ignore the results of the AfD. Frankly, I'm still not convinced that that's not what you were doing, so will let that deletion stand. – Philosopher ^{Let us reason together.} 22:01, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

I just wanted to let you know that my initial post was NEVER intended to be offensive to you. I prolly let my emotions get the better side of me. However, i still insist that it was not a personal attack to you, just a not-so-polite note (a regrettable one at that). I understand that you do not want to be involved in the case so I will end my note here. Darreg (talk) 14:27, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

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Jack E. McCoy

Hi=Jack E. McCoy, former Iowa legislator who just died. Many thanks-RFD (talk) 09:55, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the notice. – Philosopher ^{Let us reason together.} 01:45, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

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Thanks, I've commented there. – Philosopher ^{Let us reason together.} 01:42, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

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A request

Hi Philosopher, I see you're an active editor who is also a lawyer, and I assume from your edits that you're in the United States. Would you be willing to look at this request? It's for FGM, which will be TFA on February 6. I'm trying to make very sure that the one sentence in it about US federal law is correctly written and sourced, namely

In September that year [1996] the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act made it illegal to perform FGM on minors for non-medical reasons, and in 2013 the Transport for Female Genital Mutilation Act prohibited transporting a minor out of the country for the purpose of FGM.

I don't know how much work I'm requesting here, but if you could glance at the sources to make sure I haven't relied on something inappropriate or missed something, that would be very helpful. If you're too busy or not inclined, I completely understand. Sarah (SV) ^(talk) 00:11, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

@SlimVirgin: I changed a reference from a bill to a law (important, as one is proposed and one is in effect). I also added a sentence about asylum claims where the parent is afraid for his/her child. The source isn't the best - it's from 2006 and while it does appear appear in a legal journal, it's a "note", or student-written article, that doesn't appear to have any citations in LEXIS. Still, a quick search showed a lot of appellate decisions on asylum, most of them off-topic, and digging through them would be rather time-consuming, while the note summarized and gathered legal theories from several different courts in one place. – Philosopher ^{Let us reason together.} 23:41, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

Oh, I almost forgot to discuss the statement. As far as I can tell, it is appropriately written , and its claims are adequately supported by the sources provided. – Philosopher ^{Let us reason together.} 23:43, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

@SlimVirgin: Gah! I was looking just at the content of the information, not at the title - the title "Transport for Female Genital Mutilation Act" is actually not one of the "short titles" that various sub-sections of the law have. "Transport for female genital mutilation." is the name of the section, not the name of the act. I suppose having the section title instead of the completely off-topic act name in the article ("National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2013") may be nice, but I couldn't think of a good way to phrase it, so I just put the name of the act there. – Philosopher ^{Let us reason together.} 00:03, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

Thank you so much for checking it and making those edits, Philosopher. It looks better now, and I like the point you added about the appellate courts and asylum. I really appreciate your taking the time to do this. Sarah (SV) ^(talk) 00:32, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

No problem! – Philosopher ^{Let us reason together.} 00:42, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Snapping: America's Epidemic of Sudden Personality Change

Hi Philosopher. Just as you were closing Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Snapping: America's Epidemic of Sudden Personality Change, I was about to post the following comment:

• Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources. See the long list of editorial reviews from Amazon.com:
  1. From Library Journal:

     In this expanded edition of the 1978 original, Conway and Siegelman continue their study of the altering of the American psyche, which has led to the rise of religious cults, super Christian sects, private citizen militias, and other phenomena that dominate today's headlines. Probably more timely now than when first published, this is an important title for academic and public libraries.

     Copyright 1995 Reed Business Information, Inc.

  2. From Scientific American:

     Explores the way cults and other factors are causing people to give themselves over to those like David Koresh of Waco infamy, or becoming walking time bombs like Timothy McVeigh, the alleged perpetrator of the Oklahoma bombing...a powerful look at a social phenomenon that is making headlines.

  3. From The New Yorker:

     Their book is judicious, sensible, well-researched and very frightening.

  4. "Snapping" is an exciting and responsible and original piece of research which has taught this old poop amazing new ways to think about the human mind. -- Kurt Vonnegut
  5. Classic returns....More timely now than when first published....An important title for academic and public libraries. -- Library Journal
  6. Conway and Siegelman are onto something important..."Snapping" is a fascinating book with frightening implications. -- Edward T. Hall, author of "The Silent Language"
  7. Conway and Siegelman deliver a powerful book and an amazing yet responsible look at the inner workings of the human mind. -- The Examined Life: A Psychology Newsletter
  8. In a prophetic vein again...."Snapping" is not only fascinating and frightening reading, it is also extremely well-written....The escalating pattern of cult fanaticism and religious-political terror that the authors call a "death spiral" seems to be widening. If we do nothing to understand and ultimately reverse that pattern, it will pull more and more innocent people into its vortex. -- Cleveland Jewish News
  9. It is a book of investigative reporting at its best. -- New York Post
  10. What Woodward and Bernstein were to Watergate, Conway and Siegelman may well be to the cults. -- United Press International
  11. What are the social links between cultists, born-again converts, and political extremists? There are closer connections than one might think, and this labels the alteration of personality which has become an American norm, examining how mind-altering practices change the brain's information processing system. Intriguing examples of cult extremes accompany the authors' contentions. -- Midwest Book Review
  Cunard (talk) 00:47, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

Would you reopen the AfD? Cunard (talk) 00:47, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

@Cunard: Re-opened and re-listed. – Philosopher ^{Let us reason together.} 00:52, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for reopening and relisting the AfD! Cunard (talk) 00:57, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

No problem. – Philosopher ^{Let us reason together.} 00:58, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

Euronetpol

Hi Philosopher, could I trouble you to look up when the (since deleted) Euronetpol article was originally created? I have a copy of the article for Wikipedia:List_of_hoaxes_on_Wikipedia but I neglected to catch when the page was created. Thanks, —Noah 01:20, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

• @Noah Salzman: It was originally created at 18:44 on March 26, 2014 – Philosopher ^{Let us reason together.} 20:37, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Gracias, señor. —Noah 21:01, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

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I've transcribed the text in this image; while I can't make out what's beneath the watermark, I doubt anyone else would be able to either. Will you reconsider your revert to the larger version? —Cryptic 21:31, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

Not at this time - with English posters, we generally want the stars' names to be legible on the image itself - there's no reason that shouldn't be applicable to Chinese posters as well. The image is already of low enough quality to satisfy the WP:FUR, and I see no need to reduce it further. – Philosopher ^{Let us reason together.} 00:26, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

"This is the umpteenth viewdelee proposal we've had lately"

At WP:VPR? - Dank (push to talk) 01:25, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

Perhaps not at VPR in particular, but there were at least two active proposals at the time I posted that, and here have been quite a few others in various locations around the wiki. Frankly, it's time to let the idea sit for a year or two before trying again - it's quite clear that no viewdelete proposal is going to be successful currently, no matter what spin is put on it. – Philosopher ^{Let us reason together.} 00:23, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

I'm just asking because I haven't seen them. - Dank (push to talk) 00:31, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

I was sure there has been several recently, and one on a VP at the same time as the one at VPR, but these are all a quick search turned up. Perhaps I'm thinking a bit farther back in time than I'd realized. – Philosopher ^{Let us reason together.} 02:00, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

• Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#Revisiting past proposal – Viewdelete userright (where that quote came from)
• Wikipedia talk:Requests for adminship/Archive 232#The purpose of adminship (related to above)
• Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)/Archive 117#RfC: alternative to RfA: appointment of administrators wasn't really related, but the question did arise.

... it's annoying when you need to put a tag on your own comments, but here you have it ... – Philosopher ^{Let us reason together.} 02:02, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

• Okay, thanks, I hadn't seen one of those. - Dank (push to talk) 03:07, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

Infobox officeholder

Category:Pages using infobox officeholder with the awards parameter and Category:Wikipedia pages using the awards parameter of Infobox officeholder? seems like pointless duplication. 98.230.192.179 (talk) 06:20, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing that out - it was redundant. I've removed both of them now, as they are no longer needed. – Philosopher ^{Let us reason together.} 22:00, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

can you tag Template:Infobox officeholder/Awards for deletion, or move it to your userspace? 98.230.192.179 (talk) 00:43, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

Why? We're not finished with it yet - it still has un-struck names on it - and it's a working document related to the template, much as the template's sandbox is, so leaving it as a subpage of the template makes sense to me. – Philosopher ^{Let us reason together.} 00:45, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

who is we? 98.230.192.179 (talk) 23:26, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

Rollback request

Hi, I was wondering if you can give me rollback request. I am interested in fighting Wikipedia vandalism and want to study it as well. Thank you. CoolSpectator (talk) 12:49, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page. – Philosopher ^{Let us reason together.} 00:27, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

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Village Pump: Link to specific portion of content

I have replied to the conversation we were having in the Village Pump (Idea Lab) about linking to specific content in an article. I was wondering if we were talking about the same thing or whether we've assumed the new feature to be doing different things? Vghaisas (talk) 12:40, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

Replied there. – Philosopher ^{Let us reason together.} 00:24, 27 February 2015 (UTC)