PhoebeWalter

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Managing a conflict of interest

Hello, PhoebeWalter. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about in the article Robert Sher-Machherndl, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a COI may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. Editing for the purpose of advertising or promotion is not permitted. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:

• avoid editing or creating articles about yourself, your family, friends, company, organization or competitors;
• propose changes on the talk pages of affected articles (see the {{request edit}} template);
• disclose your COI when discussing affected articles (see WP:DISCLOSE);
• avoid linking to your organization's website in other articles (see WP:SPAM);
• do your best to comply with Wikipedia's content policies.

In addition, you must disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation (see WP:PAID).

Also please note that editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. Drm310 🍁 (talk) 04:39, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

Help me!

I have been locked out of my account because of sock puppetry! This is not the case . we are three people trying to create this page and are totally legitimate.

Please help me with... please let us correct our mistakes! there has been so much research done. True, we are not used to writing encyclopedic language. But, please gives us a chance to correct it and learn from our mistakes. Thank you.

Jenifer Sher

PhoebeWalter (talk) 15:14, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

The three of you are wroking from the same computer to edit the same article, a shamelessly self-promotional piece in need of serious cleanup. In such cases, it does not matter whether you are one person or three people; as far as Wikipedia is concerned, you are in violation of the policy on multiple accounts. You (plural) also clearly have a conflict of interest with regards to the article, and so shoudl not be making any edits to it at all. Yunshui ^雲_水 15:23, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

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We are not working from the same computer! There is no shame it me trying to edit something I wrote! What do I do now thigh the 20 hours of work i have done? All in good faith to support a great artist. All in the name of a non profit organization. Advise.

Please help me with...

PhoebeWalter (talk) 18:18, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

This is something you'll have to take up with a checkuser in an unblock request. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 18:57, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

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Please help me with... Who ever has edited Robert Sher-Machherndl's Careen should get the dates right. He became an Alien of Extraordinary Ability in 1996 NOT 1976 as you seen to think. Keep it factual or keep hand off!!

PhoebeWalter (talk) 19:33, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

PhoebeWalter Please see WP:OWN and review what the help template is for. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 19:37, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

Help me!

I would like a copy of the page you have take down so we can edit. ASAP please. This career is certainly not fluff as you dictate.

Please help me with...

PhoebeWalter (talk) 19:39, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

For what it's worth, the page is still at Robert Sher-Machherndl and will not be deleted for at least a week. I see that you're being helped so I'll leave it there. Primefac (talk) 20:02, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

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Please help me with... I would like CHRISSYMAD to read entire page not the final edit before she comment and reduced a lifelong career to fluff. Please read and respond. We would like a copy to rework and resubmit.

PhoebeWalter (talk) 19:41, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

We are currently helping you on IRC, so I'm marking these as answered. KSFT ^(t|c) 19:59, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

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Please help me with... Where am I being helped?? I have been told the account is unblocked BUT is it not. Where is the help coming from?

PhoebeWalter (talk) 20:06, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

I'll answer all of this at the bottom. There's no need to have multiple help requests at the same time; you can just edit the first one if you have additional questions or want to clarify your question. Huon (talk) 20:44, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

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Please help me with... What is IRC?

PhoebeWalter (talk) 20:07, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

Help me!

Please help me with... The page at Robert Sher-Machherndl has been edited to nothing. Where is the entire copy?

PhoebeWalter (talk) 20:08, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

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Pleas we need the entire copy to edit. Please let us have this! This is a terrible situation.

Please help me with...

PhoebeWalter (talk) 20:36, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

Help me!

And I am still blocked even though ROI says my account is back.  PLEASE HELP!

Please help me with...

PhoebeWalter (talk) 20:38, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

IRC is a live chat; there's a help channel for Wikipedia at #wikipedia-en-help ^connect. I believe you have been there already. You can find the article's history here and can look up specific revisions. You haven't addressed the causes of your block, for all I can see; I don't know who ROI might be or where they might have commented on your account. If you want to contest the block, take a look at WP:Guide to appealing blocks. Huon (talk) 20:44, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

OK. I need the entire document. Not a series if edits as in the History page. I would like to see the page with all the information prior to it being cut to ribbons. Is that understandable? I find the processes on WIKI very complicated and not sure how to address the causes of block All innocent!

As I said, the history page has links to old revisions. You may be interested in this one. The cause of the block is abuse of multiple accounts; see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/PhoebeWalter. Huon (talk) 21:52, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

Thank you so much for this link! We will edit this according you your specifications. The cause of the block is incorrect and quite insulting. I do not have multiple accounts! There are 3 people involved in this project. Somethings in the same office. Feeling powerless and have NO voice. Its distressing. I looked to see about block and it seems the best thing to do is wait. Does that sound right to you?

Firstly, while you are blocked, any attempt to edit (other than to contest your block here on your talk page) will be considered block evasion, violates Wikipedia policy and will make matters worse. Waiting, on the other hand, won't help either since the block will not expire unless it's lifted by an administrator. Secondly, part of the sockpuppetry policy is the section WP:COWORKER. That describes your situation rather well. Thirdly, the content that got repeatedly added by this "project" is both unreferenced and blatantly promotional. Assuming that User:Robert Sher-Machherndl is indeed Robert Sher-Machherndl, that's not all that surprising - a conflict of interest such as yours makes it very difficult to write from a neutral point of view. Given that you re-added that unsourced, promotional content over an uninvolved editor's objections in support of your colleague (a clear violation of the sockpuppetry policy), I rather doubt you will be unblocked if you intend to continue to edit that article as if nothing had happened. Again, WP:GAB explains the formal process to contest the block. Huon (talk) 22:20, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

Are you saying reviews in newspapers, i.e. neutral reporting from journalists doesn't not count as sourced material? What is some of the information is pre-internet and unarchived electronically? How does one qualify that?

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

PhoebeWalter (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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Request reason:

I understand that we have innocently used promotional language and would like the opportunity to revise our work and correct it. We are working with a copy editor to help with neutral language. We are indeed three separate people and accounts.

Decline reason:

You may be three separate people and three separate accounts, but there's a very, very clear violation of WP:MEAT here. I'm all but certain there's a violation of WP:COI here, too. And I've never in my life seen so many demands for help as I see above. And that's not even getting in to your inappropriate edits. No, it's very clear it would harm Wikipedia to unblock you at this time. Yamla (talk) 00:24, 20 January 2018 (UTC)

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If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

Please understand all of the addition to the Robert Sher-Machherndl page were done innocently, with good intention, and in good faith, only. Any mistakes or violations made were due to ignorance of WIKI's procedures and policies, certainly not stemming form any deviant behavior as suggested. Surely, being an educational site would allow for personal learning and education. What are my options after being declined unblocking? — Preceding unsigned comment added by PhoebeWalter (talk • contribs) 13:10, January 20, 2018 (UTC)

What articles or subjects would you want to edit if unblocked?
 — Berean Hunter (talk) 14:03, 20 January 2018 (UTC)

I would like to go back to the drawing board and re-work Robert Sher-Machherndl according to the correct WIKI specifications. I hope this sounds reasonable.

Not remotely, no. It sounds like you haven't read WP:COI, WP:PAID, and WP:PROMO, nor have you addressed WP:MEAT. --Yamla (talk) 20:53, 20 January 2018 (UTC)

Please do not keep making assumptions about me. Yes i have read the above and that is why I am appealing to a reason. "Any mistakes or violations made were due to ignorance of WIKI's procedures and policies, certainly not stemming form any deviant behavior as suggested. Surely, being an educational site would allow for personal learning and education." I find it extraordinary you can continue to speak to me with so little resect.

You are not going to be permitted to write about Mr Sher-Machherndl on Wikipedia again. At this point, due to the numerous issues caused by your editing, that is not going to happen, at all. If you have no other purpose here, then you are simply wasting your time.

If, however, there are other areas in which you would like to work on Wikipedia, an unblock might be considered. In that case, you should post a new unblock appeal explaining what topics you would edit instead. Yunshui ^雲_水 22:19, 20 January 2018 (UTC)

Am ia allowed to comment on the Articles for deletion page? Or am i banished from that too?

While you are blocked, you only have access to this page, and only for unblock requests. --Yamla (talk) 13:51, 21 January 2018 (UTC)