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DYK for Majdanek State Museum
On 7 May 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Majdanek State Museum, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the Majdanek State Museum, with its permanent collection of evidence and rare artefacts from the Holocaust in Poland, was the first museum of its kind in the world? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Majdanek State Museum. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
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DYK for Poniatowa concentration camp
On 7 May 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Poniatowa concentration camp, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the inmates of Poniatowa camp dug their own graves as fake air-raid trenches? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Poniatowa concentration camp. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
Jedwabne
"Czy szok jest najlepszą metodą? Agnieszka Arnold, z którą rozmowę publikujemy obok, mówi, że nie." Xx236 (talk) 12:45, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
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The Holocaust in Poland table of contents
You've been around that article just about as long as anyone. Is there a reason or discussion for it being __NOTOC__'ed? Regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 16:15, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
- Please remove it if you want. The NOTOC was added in 2008 when the article was a lot shorter, and looked very different from now. Cheers, Poeticbent talk 16:56, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
- Done. Thanks for the clarification. Best regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 17:14, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
DYK for Chełmno Trials
On 28 May 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Chełmno Trials, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the final conviction in the Chełmno Trials of the Chełmno extermination camp personnel was imposed in Poland 56 years after the war ended? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Chełmno Trials. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
DYK nomination of Hans Bothmann
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A question
Dear Poeticbent.
I am planning to write an article about another fine book by Melchior Wańkowicz, "Wrzesień żagwiący". The problem is that I don't know how to translate the title. Perhaps make it simple: "Burning September". Any ideas?
- Burning September sounds good. It could also be: Scorching September or The September Scorcher. — The choice is yours of course, unless someone has already translated the title into English in available English language literature, or for the catalogue of some Western library somewhere. Cheers, Poeticbent talk 16:32, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
- I have no idea if this book has an English title. I will name it Scorching September. Thanks. Tymek (talk) 21:04, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
DYK for Hans Bothmann
On 4 June 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Hans Bothmann, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that SS-Hauptsturmführer Hans Bothmann was one of at least a dozen high-ranking Nazi functionaries and Holocaust perpetrators who committed suicide? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Hans Bothmann. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
Kraków - r558036159 revert
Hi Poeticbent, What's the purpose of having 'profesor' title before Majchrowski's name? I mean:
- How it is relevant to the context of article?
- Is there any Manual of Style which indicates that as a rule?
I believe it's reduntant and there's no point to indicate his title and thus, it should be removed from the article. dariusz woźniak (talk) 18:18, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
- This is the shortest possible way of acknowledging his highly respectable possition in the community, similar to General in the army. I believe Majchrowski deserves that. It's just common courtesy. Poeticbent talk 18:31, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
- That's not the answer for my questions. Academic title before name is out of context here. If you still disagree, can you tell me where can I start debate and gather more opinions on this subject? Thank you. dariusz woźniak (talk) 20:37, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
DYK for Karl Streibel
On 7 June 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Karl Streibel, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Hauptsturmführer Karl Streibel, who took part in the Nazi extermination of Jews as storm leader of SS Battalion Streibel, was acquitted of any wrongdoing in 1976? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Karl Streibel. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
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Thank you and my compliments!
Thank you for stopping by my talk page, Poeticbent (or Richard, although I will assume that you prefer to be referred to by your moniker). I'm grateful for all feedback pertaining to behavioural do's and don'ts as well as any comments on perceived biases.
Please allow me to introduce myself by extending my sincere commendations on the content of your user page! It's certainly the most edifying analysis of Wikipedia I've encountered. I consider your observations to be extremely astute.
While I have been trying to tread carefully in the process of insinuating myself into this strange and wonderful institution known as Wikipedia, I'm afraid I've somehow managed to jump in feet first. I promise you that it was inadvertent. As a relative newcomer, it's been difficult to acquaint myself with policies, group dynamics and established protocol without somehow setting off a chain reaction. My experience over the years has taught me that putting theory into practice as soon as possible is the only way to tackle steep learning curves. Unfortunately, in such complex infrastructures, it's a double-edged sword putting both sides at a disadvantage. I recognise that I'm an unknown quantity but, by the same token, I'm feeling extremely concious of the fact that everyone I've dealt with so far has kept me at arms length and seems to have their guard up (understandably). Nevertheless, I hold myself accountable for any misunderstandings over intent: blunder once and we all feel the burn; blunder twice and shame on me.
I've already developed a case of contributor paranoia. I know that being bold is advocated, but common sense would dictate that caution is more advisable.
For the moment, I think I'll stick to what I began at: being cleaning up broken links, dusting out cobwebs and ensuring that entries sans salient facts actually contain the salient facts. Once I'm au fait with the niceties and have had a chance to 'introduce' myself, I might consider working in the controversial areas that interest me. Cheers! --Iryna Harpy (talk) 06:11, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you, Iryna Harpy. I like what you say, and good luck with your new approach. All best, Poeticbent talk 09:26, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you, too. All variants on the learning process are worthy of being embraced. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 10:14, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
Maurycy Gottlieb
Hi, Poeticbent, thanks. :-) Lotje (talk) 13:21, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
- No sweat. Poeticbent talk 17:31, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
Restoration of challenged uncited deleted material
Hi. There are individual entries that still lack inline RS refs here. I'm happy for them to remain, but they do require such refs. Thanks.--Epeefleche (talk) 22:43, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
DYK for Sobibór Museum
On 19 June 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Sobibór Museum, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that archaeological excavations conducted in May 2013 at the Sobibór Museum (monument pictured) unearthed an escape tunnel made by Holocaust victims in the Sobibór extermination camp? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Sobibór Museum. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
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- Interesting article. Thanks for creating it. -- Chefallen (talk) 21:37, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
- My pleasure, and thanks for the improvements. Poeticbent talk 22:48, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
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Trying not to sound pointy
Hi Poeticbent, ...but I might risk it...by asking you to justify removing this maintenance template without addressing the issue at Talk:Ryszard Kukliński. Widefox; talk 16:56, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
- Replied at Talk:Ryszard Kukliński. Thanks, Poeticbent talk 18:01, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
DYK for Szebnie concentration camp
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DYK for Ostindustrie
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You are very kind. I do appreciate your words. Dziękuję! --Gustavo Szwedowski de Korwin 05:09, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you, Gustavo Szwedowski de Korwin. I hope you can still find the time to work on your entries a little more. Each one, needs a couple of sentences added with short description of what the blazon shows, including shield, field, escutcheon, crest, etc. Picture is not enough, if there's a squirell there, or a horse, say it in body text. Poeticbent talk 15:25, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
Cyberiada
Could you look at Cyberiada (opera), especially the Polish references collected on its talk? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:13, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
Of concern to you
Is this discussion: Wikipedia_talk:Did_you_know#A_Polish_Nobleman_in_Template:Did_you_know.2FPreparation_area_4. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 10:39, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
- I was bold and replaced the questioned hook by ALT1, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:03, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
Not assuming good faith
Hi Poeticbent. Please consider being a little more thoughtful with your edit summaries. Describing User:Aetherist's edits to Milgram experiment as vandalism, when they already explained the rationale for their edits on the talk page, is not helpful. Vandalism is a deliberate attempt to damage the encyclopedia. Someone disagreeing with you about what content should be in an article does not make them a vandal. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 13:48, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
- I see your point, but please look at the revision history, and, at his contributions. First blanked the section as an IP, on 1 July 2013 68.1.70.40 without summary. Created a single purpose account. Blanked a section at Banality of evil on 30 June 2013, and on 1 July 2013, by wheel-warring. Blanked the section again at Milgram experiment on 20 July 2013 with misleading edit summary claiming "noone has defended it" while in fact no-one has supported his sourceless ranting and raving in talk. This is not helpful. Whether it is, or it is not vandalism per se, is your judgement call. Poeticbent talk 14:53, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
- Fair enough. Thanks. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 19:41, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
- I see your point, but please look at the revision history, and, at his contributions. First blanked the section as an IP, on 1 July 2013 68.1.70.40 without summary. Created a single purpose account. Blanked a section at Banality of evil on 30 June 2013, and on 1 July 2013, by wheel-warring. Blanked the section again at Milgram experiment on 20 July 2013 with misleading edit summary claiming "noone has defended it" while in fact no-one has supported his sourceless ranting and raving in talk. This is not helpful. Whether it is, or it is not vandalism per se, is your judgement call. Poeticbent talk 14:53, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
Citations
Could you please explain what you mean by self-published source on the talk page? I understand that my actions on The Milgram Experiment may have seemed unilateral. I am a new user, but I am not new to this argument. The more tactful approach would have been to put in a request for comments which I have now done. Hopefully, we can both avoid ad hominem attacks and concentrate on the issue. Could you please examine my sources on the talk page and post replies there. Have you examined my sources by Daniel Kahneman? Thanks for your time and consideration. Aetherist (talk) 14:44, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
I forgot to apologize for my unilateral undo when I should have escalated the issue to RfC. Sorry, about that. Aetherist (talk) 15:09, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
- The initial learning curve in Wikipedia can be a tough lesson when it comes to getting used to accepting what you don't like. In case of personal disagreement with a third-party reliable source quoted by Wikipedia in a neutral manner, the blanking of article section, and pushing automatic revert button designed for fighting vandalism (not for content), are the two worst things you can do here. – I figure, you have already learned that. Other things you can learn are available at Wikipedia:Learning the ropes. And sorry for causing you discomfort. I have only defended content against disruption; with a very limited time on hand (not free access to editing by a newcomer, obviously). All best to you, Poeticbent talk 16:28, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
DYK for Ivanhorod
On 22 July 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Ivanhorod, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the photograph (pictured) of the execution of Jews near Ivanhorod, Ukraine, by members of the SS Einsatzgruppe was intercepted by the Polish resistance at the Warsaw post office in 1942? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Ivanhorod. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
Nazi crimes against ethnic Poles
You may not like the title of the article but until it is changed an editor is perfectly entitled to change the text to meet present title. Rsloch (talk) 20:06, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
- Perhaps it would be better to raise your concerns over my edits rather than simply reverting the article. Rsloch (talk) 21:20, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
- Sobiepan is a good editor. He should have definitely write a summary, but I'm not going to hold it against him, because he restored what I painstakingly worked on. Let's continue this converstation on the article talk page, shall we? I don't do edit-wars; so please accept my appology for possibly hurting your feelings about this one. Poeticbent talk 23:54, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
Just a reminder so you won't forget to DYK it :) Nice expansion! --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 13:24, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks Piotr, I will DYK it on behalf of two other users also, as soon as I'm finished with the basic expansion based on refs. Poeticbent talk 14:28, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
- Nice job expanding St. Francis of Assisi's Church, Kraków, too! It will be nice to see it on the front page! --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 10:15, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
- Will move it to Church of St. Francis of Assisi, Kraków to match others in the same Category. Hope you don't mind, Poeticbent talk 13:07, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
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DYK for Mogiła Abbey
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Of interest
You may find meta:Research:Anatomy_of_English_Wikipedia_Did_You_Know_traffic of interest. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 08:55, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
Mogila Abbey
I am confused by your edits to this entry. Did you read the revised format fully? Also I am making my edits based on both the website of the abbey and of the Cistercian Order. I am, in fact, also relying on your own edits. But the church would be subordinant to the abbey, which is the institution which has the website and is the focus of all the sources. Isn't the title of the entry named abbey even in Polish? Daniel the Monk (talk) 01:14, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
- I don't reply to users who roll-back my edits. Since you left me a note though (genuine or not), I'd like to make an exception here. First of all, I baptized my daughter in that basilica, and I know what it means for the community around it, you don't. Even Cistercians themselves admit that that was an unusual abbey which, by the rules, ought to be built away from the densely populated areas (quote in Polish): "nie było to z całą pewnością pustkowie, jakiego wymagała kapituła generalna."[1] Here, the monks were compelled to serve as parish priests from the beginning (quote): "cystersi podjęli się pracy duszpasterskiej, którą pełnią do dzisiaj". They regulated the Vistula river and introduced better farming practices among the locals.[2] Today, they also serve as guides for the throngs of religious tourists arriving by coaches, because John Paul II was there, and so was Ratzinger, not for the abbey, but for the sanctuary. Meanwhile, you removed the Parish from the opening line altogether, just to get back at me. How silly... I don't own that article. Poeticbent talk 16:14, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
DYK for Church of St. Francis of Assisi, Kraków
On 5 August 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Church of St. Francis of Assisi, Kraków, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the Church of St. Francis of Assisi (pictured) in Kraków Old Town in Poland displays an exact replica of the Shroud of Turin, consecrated by Pope John Paul II at the Vatican in 2003? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Church of St. Francis of Assisi, Kraków. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
I mentioned you there, I hope you won't mind. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 18:29, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
- An issue has arisen regarding the nomination; if you can address it, that would be very helpful. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:26, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
Re:Mrożek's debut as a cartoonist
Have you read the cited source? It says "He debuted in 1950 as a graphic artist...", so I'll correct the text once again. The Polish Wikipedia gives the same information about his debut.Sylwia Ufnalska (talk) 08:59, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
- Please scroll down a bit, to section "Nowa Huta" on the right hand side.[3] Cheers, Poeticbent talk 09:12, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
Ok, sorry, I didn't notice this passage before. Cheers, Sylwia Ufnalska (talk) 12:35, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
Your user page is very interesting. Thanks to you I've got to know about the research done by Swartz. His results are truly shocking and sad. Fortunately Wikipedia has survived in spite of its drawbacks.Sylwia Ufnalska (talk) 13:19, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
Stangl's testimony
I don't see what's wrong with the original quote. It's describing the lack of discipline at the extermination center under Eberl as well as the state of disarray and chaos. The quote about wading through piles of notes does give a sense of the enormity of the number of people they were killing. Even if Stangl's testimony is embellished here or there, first, there exists no better testimony regarding what he saw, and second, we are including his account in quotes. WP:Reliable Sources refers to the reliability of the source as being accurate, and there is no question that Stangl's testimony as recorded is accurate. For instance, this would be like quoting Bill Clinton's denial that he had sex with Monica Lewinsky and then having someone remove the quote on account of it not being accurate. The source is not Bill Clinton, but rather the recorded testimony, and we are quoting from the testimony. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.44.174.192 (talk) 15:33, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
- Sorry, but you got it all wrong, 174.44.174.192. The actual description of the camp must come from a reputable historian because that's what WP:RS means. A rant from a Holocaust perpetrator (recorded during his trial for war crimes), is not reliable... he was most likely lying through his teeth to save himself from the verdict, no doubt. Our article in Wikipedia is rather short. It is not a book on Treblinka, where the inclusion of such curiosity would make a little more sense. Please see also WP:UNDUE WEIGHT and WP:REDFLAG for more of the same. Poeticbent talk 16:06, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
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Treblinka
Cześć, w kwestii zmiany w podpisie zdjęcia kamieni, która wprowadziłeś. Otóż nie do końca. Jeżeli chodzi o ich symbolikę i napisy zerknij np. tutaj, natomiast jeżeli chodzi o liczbę ok. 17 tys. np. na stronę 120 tego opracowania (lub innej, wcześniejszej publikacji Muzeum, jednak ta jest jako jedyna udostępnioną bezpłatnie on-line). Historycy nie są jednak zgodni, czy takie zdarzenie miało miejsce, a jeżeli tak, to ile razy. Przy takiej dziennej liczbie ofiar komory gazowe musiały bowiem pracować także kilka godzin wieczorem/nocą, czego w obozach zagłady co do zasady starano się unikać. Trzeba byłoby poszukać głębiej w źródłach. Pozdrawiam serdecznie Boston9 (talk) 10:05, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for the input, Boston9. I really appreciate that. I will incorporate your excellent new sources into the article shortly. Needless to say, I intend to work on it further, one section by another. Personally, I don't think, the cremation pits were ever 'extinguished' during the so-called 'processing' of the victims, even if work had stopped for the night. More probably, the pyres were left buring alone after dark, and were refueled the next morning with some ashes possibly shoveled away (as in Chełmno) if that's what you mean. Poeticbent talk 15:50, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
- Hello, expanding this article is a great idea, I plan to do the same on pl-Wiki. I am in touch with the Museum staff, I also participated in the celebrations of the 70th anniversary of Treblinka revolt [4], which has helped me to expand Samuel Willenberg’s bio on pl-Wiki. I plan to visit Treblinka in September again to talk about the WWII pictures and clarify some issues. If you need their latest publication [5] let me know, I can send it to Canada. Also, Caroline Sturdy Colls published an article in the lastest 2013 issue of Zagłada Żydów. Studia i Materiały [6]. Boston9 (talk) 14:19, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
- Greetings, Boston9. I'm sorry for taking so long to respond, but I needed to better assess the current situation there, which turns out to be quite troubling in regard to copyright law. Please, see my comment at Talk:Treblinka extermination camp if you want. I'm really impressed with your work, Boston9, and thanks for the link to www.zagladazydow.org. An invaluable publication, especially considering its current editorial board. All best, Poeticbent talk 18:54, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
- P.S. Od paru dni szukam informacji o życiu zawiadowcy z Treblinki, Franciszka Ząbeckiego, i nic. Zero. Ani daty i miejsca urodzenia, ani wzmianki na temat czy Ząbecki nadal żyje, czy nie; gdzie mieszkał przed i po wojnie, gdzie się uczył, gdzie pracował, czy się ożenił? Dziwne. Napisał książkę. Był na procesach w Dusseldorfie. Historycy ciągle go cytują, tyle że bez słowa o nim samym. Chciałbym stworzyć o Ząbeckim artykuł po angielsku na WP:DYK. Czy mógłbyś mi z tym jakoś pomóc? Poeticbent talk 04:08, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
- Widziałem, przykro mi, że tak się stało, robisz kawał dobrej roboty, ja też juz dwa czy trzy razy odkrywałem coś takiego na pl-Wiki. W sprawie Franciszka Ząbeckiego wysłałem maile do dwóch osób, które może będą coś wiedzieć, dam Ci znać ASAP. Ja cały czas natykam na jego nazwisko w kontekście liczy ofiar, jeszcze nie czytałem książki. Artykuł na pl-Wiki o nim jest bardzo nowy, tylko na jednym źródle, też wart rozwinięcia i uzupełnienia. Mamy bardzo mało zdjęć na Commons z WWII z Treblinki, sprawdzę, czy nie ma czegoś w domenie publicznej do wgrania. Jakbyś potrzebował jakiejś pomocy na temat źródeł w Polsce - dawaj znać. Pozdrawiam serdecznie, Boston9 (talk) 20:37, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
- Koleżanka podesłała mi link do jego zdjęcia. Czy orientujesz się, czy możemy grać na Commons na tej (lub innej licencji)? Jeszcze nie wgrywałem dokumentów niemieckich z WWII. Boston9 (talk) 09:43, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
- Rozdzielczość nie jest duża, ale proszę wgraj to na Commons dokładnie tak jak sugerowałeś. Wykadruję i wykorzystam to zdjęcie do nowego artykułu. Inne zdjęcia można znaleźć na tej stronie H.E.A.R.T z tym, że ich status jest wątpliwy, szczególnie to pierwsze na górze, z filmu o nim zrobionego przez Czołówkę. Film jest objęty prawami autorskimi. Dzięki za pomoc. I proszę, szukaj dalej. Potrzebna mi data, choćby rok urodzenia i śmierci. Czy był zawiadowcą przed wojną? Poeticbent talk 14:06, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
- Zerknij tutaj. Poeticbent talk 14:42, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
Samuel Willenberg
Hi, Poeticbent. I assume that you do not speak German, which is unfortunate as it would help with certain articles to which you frequently contribute. However, we are lucky enough to have an article on Samuel Willenberg (survivor of Treblinka) in the Polish wiki as well. I am making a request to you to translate it into English. Thanks.Hoops gza (talk) 23:18, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
- Willenberg has just been featured on WP:DYK in Polish Wiki. Cheers, Poeticbent talk 14:46, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
Thanks so much for contributing this new article to the English Wikipedia. I read through it and made the few minor fixes I could find. Superb as usual.Hoops gza (talk) 00:55, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
Werner Grothmann
I saw that you placed this tag on the Werner Grothmann article: This article incorporates information from the corresponding article in the Spanish Wikipedia. Is such a tag a Wikipedia standard for translated articles? Whenever I translate a page I just put the translated tag on the talk page of the article as you can see with Werner Grothmann. If so, I will make sure to add this tag from now on when I translate articles.Hoops gza (talk) 01:05, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
- Hi, Hoops gza. There's no hard rule about this, but I find that placing "a tag" on the article talk page is not helpful. The editing guideline listed at Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia#Translating from other language Wikimedia Projects suggests mentioning your translation in the edit summary with a link left at the article's talk. – However, all this is utterly meaningless after a couple of years. Other editors constantly add new stuff. As with any article, the best practice is to use citations because they look professional. That's why, I personally prefer to mention the translation right there, directly in the article, at the end of paragraph, so the next editor would know what to do about their own stuff. There's no rule to follow, but there are plenty of examples. Take a look at Hugo Hildebrand Hildebrandsson, Léon Lecornu, Émile Jouguet, and Chico Whitaker. What I don't like at all, is the same disclosure put at "the top" of the article. It looks awful, and is pretty much useless, see: Philippe de Gaulle, Jacques Dufilho, or Dai-gensui. Hope it helps, all best. Poeticbent talk 03:26, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
Kalman Taigman
By the way, Kalman talks briefly in Auschwitz: The Nazis and 'The Final Solution', part of the BBC History of World War II. You can probably obtain it from a local library. From this and the other sources available (in the Treblinka article), you might be able to put together an article on him in English. We would also be able to verify his name as I distinctly remember it being credited.Hoops gza (talk) 23:28, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
I feel that I should apologize, for I do not know if you live in a part of the world where the BBC History of World War II can be obtained. It can probably be obtained in most of the United States and United Kingdom. I know that I can obtain it. So, if you are unable to find this as a source, perhaps I can work on the article. Please let me know.Hoops gza (talk) 00:58, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
- Please go ahead if you feel like writing Kalman's biography. I have full trust in your abilities to deliver the goods. I would also like to continue working on the Treblinka article until it becomes a Good article. That's a lot of extra reading. Some of the materials I run into in my timely research only add to the problems I'm having with referencing these days. Especially among Western writers, some appear reasonable in one chapter, but turn into zombies in the next one. This is a poisoned well, that make me abandon ideas. Too often, I bump into hateful stereotypes about Poland (as the lair of the Evildoer since the mother's milk already). We're walking a fine line here, between ignorance on the left, and bad faith on the right. Not everything I read will be of any use as a result. Cheers, and good luck with it. Poeticbent talk 05:03, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
On second thought I shall not be making this article.Hoops gza (talk) 01:43, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
Perhaps you would like to read and c/e / comment on my newest GAN? I think you'll find it of interest. Cheers, PS. It is also close to 4x expansion, so if you could add a paragraph or so, we may be able to have a nice DYK! --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 09:15, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
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- Just as I feared, I'm afraid that the experiment of splitting this article from World War II crimes in occupied Poland mostly failed. Even with substantial work, the original article is much better IMHO. Any ideas as to what should we do with it? I put it on hold for now, let's see where it gets us. //Halibutt 09:22, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
Elizabeth Freeman Ussher
Hello Poeticbent,
Can we just get approved for the original hook please? ALT1 sounds a bit off for me. Proudbolsahye (talk) 22:15, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
- Hello Poeticbent! Are you going to continue with the review? Proudbolsahye (talk) 07:17, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
- Poeticbent, please don't get me wrong. I was looking forward to your review. But after pinging you many times on your talk page, I wasn't sure if you were going to continue with the review or not. Proudbolsahye (talk) 19:36, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
- I'm not sure what you want me to say. I expressed my honest opinion which hasn't changed. I added my ALT to help the promoter. You responded in your last edit summary: "reviewer needed", so... why don't you wait for that "reviewer"? I'm finished like before, no need to "continue". Poeticbent talk 20:12, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
Suggestions
You make many constructive edits and articles, but I have a few pointers to help improve your edits. I have fixed the problems with your recent articles already.
1. Commas do not follow the parentheses for dates of birth and/or death.
2. For biographies, please add persondata to each new article that you create. Again, it is usually easiest for the person creating the article to do this. You may want to just copy and paste the persondata from an already established page (it appears near the bottom of biography pages, just above defaultsort and categories) onto the article you are creating, and then edit the information in it.
3. Please add defaultsort above the categories so that the article shows up alphabetically by surname in the categories.
4. Please add the appropriate categories to each new article that you create. There are usually quite a few of these that apply. Since the person who created the article usually knows the most about the subject, it is best if that person adds the categories. The hashmark and space like this | does not go on a category unless the category is specifically for the subject such as how the hashmark should be included in the Category:Michael Jordan on the page Michael Jordan.
Let me know if you have any questions. Thanks and as always happy editing.Hoops gza (talk) 02:45, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks, Hoops gza... I'll try to remember all that. And thanks for fixing up the articles. Much obliged. Poeticbent talk 03:47, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
Thanks
I was doing some DYK reviewing and came across this interesting article. All the more interesting because I had recently read the Reinhard Heydrich article and discovered Heinz Heydrich about whom I did not know.
Thank you for not being too precious about my changes. One of the recent changes that I made to a DYK was to one that was missing the noun in the first sentence and on those grounds should not have been passed. I made a few changes and was hated as a result. Maybe I should be more tactful!
I can no longer review that article, as I have now contributed. Not exactly much content, but rearranging can be useful too.
Your name page has an interesting article. I am one of the major contributors who has been here for the long haul, having contributed thousands of words. There are quite a number, I am sure, who contribute majorly to content. I will go back to your page and finish reading the article.
Cheers!
Amandajm (talk) 08:45, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
- Interesting. I have considered changing my identity. I am absolutely certain that I would cop less flack if I had a male name. Then there are those who believe that I am Aman Dajm...... Amandajm (talk) 08:54, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
- Hi, Amandajm. You're more than welcome to complete your review at Template:Did you know nominations/Berek Lajcher because you did not alter the meritorial content of the already existing article. All you did, was to rearange some material in order to make the article sound better, for which I am grateful. We all do that at WP:DYK. You have no conflict of interest in approving my nomination. I am looking forward to your go ahead. And, thank you for a good word. Yours, Poeticbent talk 09:30, 9 October 2013 (UTC)