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Ways to improve HMS Valorous (1917 Destroyer)

Hi, I'm Mrt3366. Rgdem999, thanks for creating HMS Valorous (1917 Destroyer)!

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1. Wikify.
2. Add more references and
3. also add inline citations to establish notability for the ship

It's otherwise a nice work.

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HMS Wild Swan (D62)

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Please be careful with edits like this, where you revert a large number of improvements made since your last edit. Again, it's great that you are adding sources now, but please respect basic style edits like italicising the name, how you use infobox fields, wikification edits, etc. If you are unsure about any of the features, please don't hesitate to ask. But please don't assume any edits made by other users are inherently unhelpful, even if you disagree with some of the changes. Let's discuss them first. Benea (talk) 23:43, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

I'm not entirely sure how you are editing these pages, but once again in making changes to this article you lost a lot of improvements made by other users. In future please be more careful, if you are unable to make edits to articles without overwriting work done by other users, your own edits will begin to be reverted on sight. Benea (talk) 20:06, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

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Ways to improve HMS Wivern (D66)

Hi, I'm Alanl. Rgdem999, thanks for creating HMS Wivern (D66)!

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Ways to improve HMS Worcester (D96)

Hi, I'm Alanl. Rgdem999, thanks for creating HMS Worcester (D96)!

I've just tagged the page, using our page curation tools, as having some issues to fix. You should be able to create any new articles directly. There is no need for you to go through AfC. Message me if you are having trouble.

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Do you have any other articles in the AfC queue?

If so, message me, and I will be happy to review them for you. Alanl (talk) 20:12, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

HMS Valorous (1917)

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Since you don't seem to want to respond on my talk page, I hope you don't mind posting here just to clarify what I think are a few misunderstandings. I never reviewed or rejected your proposed article on HMS Venomous, that was a user at WP:Articles for creation. I actually suspect it was incorrectly rejected, and that another editor would probably have approved it.

When you have been producing these articles, you have been doing so with a range of minor errors that are perfectly understandable if you haven't been editing wikipedia long. Other users are usually perfectly willing to spend a little time addressing these issues. In this edit on HMS Witherington (D76) for example, I introduced italic formatting for ship names, directed shiplinks directly to the article rather than the ship list page, added some categories, made more links and wikification edits, etc. Your next edits after this were to revert all my changes to your last version. I asked you about this on your talkpage, you did not respond.

Similarly I queried your sources for when you added large amounts of unreferenced information to articles, and you made the very positive step of adding citations. When checking these however I found that the information in these articles was being taken from the sources directly, either when you copied and pasted lines like

HMS Valorous was one of the unsung escorts which protected coastal convoys throughout WW2. This work received little detailed publicity but was very hazardous, as evidenced by the number of ship structures which could be seen off the East coast for many years after the end of WW2. She was paid off and placed in Reserve after VJ Day. She was put on the Disposal List in 1946 and sold for breaking-up on 4th March 1947 at Thornaby

or merely made changes to the word order elsewhere, which is not enough to pass the threshold of originality. Copyright violations are a serious issue, and I made several attempts to edit out the worst of these from HMS Valorous (1917), and raised this issue on your page. Instead, you reverted me again, once more losing all the improvements and reintroducing the copyright violation. At this stage it become necessary to take this to the copyright violation notification board. The only article I have tagged has been HMS Valorous (1917), the other articles were so tagged were done by User:Socrates2008. I haven't looked at them in detail, but I'm sure he will be happy to talk you through some of the specific instances he found there, and how these can be fixed.

Nobody owns the articles they create on wikipedia, they can be edited by anyone. Therefore it is unacceptable to edit in the way that you have been doing, by reverting changes made by other users to the version of your last edits. As I have said throughout, I am more than happy to talk you through how the infobox templates work, why ship names are italicised, and the reasons behind all the other changes I made, and why the way you have been editing is not in keeping with the standards, rather than as you seem to think, being in accordance with them. But please don't simply ignore this offer and go back to reverting users that change the formatting to the style standardised for all ship articles.

Finally, please accept that users here, including myself, have been acting in good faith. We have made a number of attempts to raise concerns with you, and blanking these articles for copyright violations has been a last resort. We'd much rather you entered into discussions and took some time to understand and apply guidelines and policies, to make your contributions even more positive. In light of this, please don't go calling people bullies or 'non-persons'. Benea (talk) 13:07, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Rgdem999, that's some very sound advice - I'd urge you to take it onboard if you're wanting to stick around and keep editing articles. Socrates2008 (Talk) 13:34, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

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HMS Leven

Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to HMS Leven (1898), without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear constructive and has been reverted. Please make use of the sandbox if you'd like to experiment with test edits. Your recent changes to the article on HMS Leven completely removed a large amount of cited information as well as adding information that is not supported by the citation that you claim - in particular you added that "After 30 September 1913, she was known as an C Class destroyer and had the letter ‘C’ painted on the hull below the bridge area and on either the fore or aft funnel.", citing it to Conway's All the World’s Fighting Ships 1906 to 1922 - in fact Conway's says nothing about the destyoyers having there class number painted on them. Please do not misrepresent sources like this. (I notice that you have also made this claim, with the same incorrect citation on other articles that you have contributed to recently - you need to provide the real source where you got this information, or it is liable to be removed.)Nigel Ish (talk) 19:08, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

The information that was contained in the original was partially in error. Also it was the incorrect template for warships.

Also the template for all vessels within a class structure should match.

I cannot use your modified template unless you modify all ships within the class being editted. Oh by the way the class is the C Class of turtleback destryers.

Rgdem999 (talk) 19:23, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

HMS Leven was NOT identical to the three 30-knotters ordered from Fairfield under the 96–97 programme (Gipsy, Fairy and Osprey), and differed again from the two ships ordered next year (Falcon and Ostrich), as shown by the specifications, which were taken from Lyon's The First Destroyers, a book concentrating on Royal Navy Turtleback destroyers, and written by an experienced naval historian working at the National Maritime Museum at Greenwich and having full access to the ship's plans and ship's covers. Surely the details should match the actual details for an individual ship, as found in high quality sources, not general average sources for the whole class. The "C-class" re-classification was a 1913 attempt to backfit some sort of order into Royal Naval destroyers (i.e. a three-funnel 30-knotter) and is rightly described in the 1860–1905 Conway's as "of little use in giving a historical account of the development of the destroyer" with ships varying massively between builders - with effectively only the armament and contracted speed being specified. Your reply does not explain your deletion of correctly cited information, or your misrepresentation of sources. I have started a discussion of your edits here.Nigel Ish (talk) 20:04, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

You also directly copied text from the uboat.net page on UB 34. You have been warned before about close paraphrasing - it is not acceptable.Nigel Ish (talk) 21:21, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

I use only Janes or Conway's for ships specs as noted on each article. A warning from some on Wiki the greatest copy and paste org I have ever seen. Paraphrasing is paraphrasing. However with your requirement for footnotes on everyline (only peculiar to Wiki) that professional writers don't use. (I am not one)

I have almost 500 articles on First World War Dwestroyers to either put here or make my own website. When you put something into an article make sure it is correct. I used several items from you article. One item was placed directly in, one of your external lim=nks was used as a reference, I read the article to see if there is something that can be used within my edits.

Before you revert an article make sure you read it compare the info in it. I would like the cost item entered as I do not have that info and you do feel free. That what was in your article is still there in the new one if you would look.

Rgdem999 (talk) 21:54, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

Okay you win and I quit!!!

Yuo should revert the other edits I have done, the entire E Class, the entire D Class and the entire C Class with the exception of the Turbine specials.

I am done with people who do not know how to write factual articles on Royal Navy Ships. The Royal Navy is not run by the US.

Have a nice day. Oh yeah you can delete this account as I am done with you.

Rgdem999 (talk) 22:21, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

Unwarranted bold text

I know you've been told before, so I won't beat about the bush. Please stop inserting bold text in articles where it is inappropriate, like you did here. The guidance is found at MOS:BOLD. Thanks. Shem (talk) 22:24, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

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Submission of rewrite for Devastation Class Ironclad

In the last 14 months since my last submission to Wikipedia, I have spent my time gathering more reference material for articles on Royal Navy Ships. I have ammassed almost a thousand items for possible submission to your service.

I have submitted a rewrite of the Devastation Class Ironclad type warship. I have attempted to blend what was already written into the new article trying to fill in the uncitated items of the article. Some items have been reworded, however, I believe I have kept the intent of the original intact.

I have corrected what I bekieve were errors in the original according to my sources and added more information.

I will only submit articles through the Draft article window and it will be upto the reviewers to decide if I should continue submissions or publish my material elsewhere.Rgdem999 (talk) 20:17, 1 September 2014 (UTC) Robert

Have found new information for engine types, suppliers and a parcular item for the main armament of HMS Thunderer 38 ton guns. Changes will be forth coming.Rgdem999 (talk) 16:06, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

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Because the book French Cruisers 1922 - 1956 is an e-book no page numbers are available. I need to identify where in the book the information comes from. I only do this for the person verifying the information.Rgdem999 (talk) 03:25, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

I understand that and there's no problem with in doing so. In the short term, I only suggest that you just use the chapter # rather than both the number and the chapter name to reduce the clutter in the notes.

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You'll find the answers re templates and ship commanders there Lyndaship (talk) 07:49, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

Please do not recreate templates

Instead of repeatedly creating the same template with different names, look for the "More" menu at the top of your page and select "Move", then assign a new name to the page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 06:44, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

This link still redirects me to the Wikipedia page for the Royal Navy. Until when I click on the link and it takes me to the 'Creating HMS Cruiser 1705 page I will look at this as Wikipedia DOES NOT want this page created. Rgdem999 (talk) 22:38, 11 March 2022 (UTC)Rgdem999

HMS Cruizer (1705)

FYI - HMS Cruizer (1705) has been created per your request at WP:RFPP. It's a redirect right now, but feel free to convert it to an article when you're ready. —⁠ScottyWong⁠— 05:00, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Clicking the ling still takes me to the Wikipedia page for the Royal Navy. Until the link takes me to the 'Creating HMS Cruizer 1705' page I will tret this link as Wikipedia does NOT want anyone creating this arct6icle. Rgfem999 Rgdem999 (talk) 22:40, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

See WP:EDRED for instructions. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:19, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

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Onel5969 ^{TT me} 19:07, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

E-books do not6 have page numbers as the page you are looking is dependant on your screen size. To see if the book (citation) is from an e-book look to the ISBN number for the entry (EPUB). if present no page numbers exist.

Rgdem999 Rgdem999 (talk) 19:19, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

March 2022

Hello, I'm Ost316. I noticed that you recently removed all content from HMS President (1650). Please do not do this. Blank pages are harmful to Wikipedia because they have a tendency to confuse readers. As a rule, if you discover a duplicate article, please redirect it to an appropriate existing page. If a page has been vandalised, please revert it to the last legitimate version. If you feel that the content of a page is inappropriate, please edit the page and replace it with appropriate content. If you believe there is no hope for the page, please see the deletion policy for how to proceed. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the removed content has been restored. If you wish to experiment, please use your sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. Ost (talk) 04:59, 20 March 2022 (UTC)

I am presently rewriting the article as it has major errors in it and alot of missing info. The only thing I removed was a redirect link. I have been working on this update all friggin day and dont want someone to obliterate it. Rgdem999 (talk) 05:06, 20 March 2022 (UTC)

I posted my update to President 1650 and some IDIOT reverted it back to an erroneous article. I will NOT stand for this revert back to my article. the Ship Bonaventure 1650 does NOT exist. and changing it back to the redirect command shows that Wikipedia is a home to bullies who remove completed articles just to please themselves. Rgdem999 (talk) 05:53, 20 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. It appears that you tried to give 1650 Programme Group a different title by using the DISPLAYTITLE magic word. This functionality is for changing the formatting and presentation of the title only, and does not work to change a page's title to something meaningfully different. Instead, the software used by Wikipedia has a feature that allows pages to be moved to a new title.

In most cases, once your account is four days old and has ten edits, you should be able to move an article yourself using the "Move" tab at the top of the page (the tab may be hidden in a dropdown menu for you). If you cannot perform a particular page move yourself this way (e.g. because a page already exists at the target title), please follow the instructions at requested moves to have it moved by someone else.
I have commented out the part that caused an error, feel free to repair it. Happy Editing--IAmChaos 01:20, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

Right now I am trying to make sense of the page Line of Battle. Currently working at getting the Fourth Rate vessels to make sense. The original author has done a lot of work there with one specific regerence without cross checking other references and the actual starting point of the six tier English Navy (Navy Royal, Commonwealth Navy and Royal Navy). Will propose the change once I get it drafted. Quite a few ships that were renamed in 1660 are title as if they were launched with the rename rather than titling the articles with the original name of the vessel. I believe the vessel listings are too long and clumbersome to be useful. will send my idea once it is completed. Article is in my sandbox and will not expand the vessel articles any further until the proposal is complete.

The original author did do a lot of work and is to be commended. what I am working on will make the ship lists more manageable, hopefully

Rgdem999 Rgdem999 (talk) 01:55, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

Redirect of HMS Tyger

I noticed that you redirected HMS Tyger, an article (of more than 15,000 bytes) about a specific ship, to HMS Tiger, which is a list article. HMS Tyger is one on the ships listed in HMS Tiger. I assume that this was a mistake and I have reverted that edit. - Donald Albury 16:41, 27 March 2022 (UTC)

The spelling of the name of the article is incorrect for this vessel the contents of the article has been moved to the correct page in its entirity. Please contact me prior to doing something that is kinda irresponsible and something that you know nothing about what I am doing.

Please I am going through the Fourth Rates one ship at a time filling in information and ensuring the article contains correct information and is as complete as I can make it currently.

Rgdem999 Rgdem999 (talk) 16:48, 27 March 2022 (UTC)

I have set this back to the correct article.

Change it again and I will DELETE it Rgdem999 (talk) 21:19, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

For the record, I am not the user who restored HMS Tyger. Your blanking of that article today appears to be in violation of the guideline at Wikipedia:Page blanking and the policy at Wikipedia:Edit warring. My advice to you is to restore the HMS Tyger article, and then engage in discussion about what to do with the article on the talk page. - Donald Albury 22:52, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

It is what he did to mine so Tit for tat

Do NOT mention this to me until you have dealt with him. The idea of wikipedia is to permit multiple authors improve the content. When individuals 'goal tend' thier articles then Wikipedia must enforce their guidelines or this will become the greatest waste of space on the internet.

right now I am copying what I have completed to date, then I will totally withdraw from this abomination of a website. Rgdem999 (talk) 22:59, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

Please see Wikipedia:Requested moves for the proper procedure for renaming articles. Now that 'HMS Tyger' and 'HMS Tiger (1647)' have been restored to their prior states, you may request a move or name change by adding Template:Requested move at the bottom of Talk:HMS Tyger, including your arguments for the move in the 'reason' field. - Donald Albury 10:25, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

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Okay thought this link was valid will remove it Rgdem999 (talk) 13:44, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

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Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to blank out or remove portions of page content, templates, or other materials from Wikipedia without adequate explanation, as you did at HMS Tiger (1647), you may be blocked from editing. Tol (talk | contribs) @ 03:16, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

Blanking one page and pasting the contents into a different title is not allowed. Pages should be renamed properly to maintain their attribution history. You may be able to do this yourself, if the change is uncontroversial (or you are happy for it to be named back by anyone for any reason), if you have the permissions, and if the new page title has no non-trivial edit history. Otherwise, starts a requested move discussion and, assuming consensus, someone with the correct power will make the move at the end of the discussion. Trying to circumvent this is disruptive editing at best. Doing it repeatedly after multiple other editors revert the changes is an edit war and you risk being blocked from editing. Lithopsian (talk) 13:44, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

Well that is what was done to my article so if you have not chastized the perpertratraitor of this then just FUCK RIGHT OFF Rgdem999 (talk) 14:24, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

What article are you talking about? Please note that you do not own any article. Please remember that Wikipedia is a collaborative effort, and that civility is a requirement, as is assuming good faith. - Donald Albury 17:03, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

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North8000 (talk) 20:49, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

Ship names

Good morning.

I have noticed in my role as a WikiProject Military History Coordinator a number of Royal Navy ship articles with names not using the prefix "HMS", and redirecting titles with that prefix to just the given name and if applicable the year of launch. The obverse has thus far been the practice for the titles of Royal Navy ship articles; could you follow that practice? –♠Vami_IV†♠ 07:05, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

English Naval ships that are built prior to May 1660 SHOULD NOT be labeled as HMS as the moniker 'Royal' was not granted until the Restoration of King Charles II.

English ships built prior to this time only became part of the 'Royal Navy' only did so after May 1660. Prior to this they were in the Navy Royal or were the vessels of the reigning monarch.

the ten years following the English Civil Wars were commonwealth ships and did not receive the 'GHMS' prefix as England at the time was not ruled by a Monarch.

To annotate a ship with HMS built prior or commissioned prior to May 1660 is an absolute error.

I have spent over 10 years researching the English and Royal Navy and still do not consider my self as an expert in this matter BUT I do know what is correct in a professional setting and what is not.

I am considering transferring the articles I have been writing to your platform, but am unsure of the practices of your platform that include the bullying of people who wish to submit articles and help expand the knowledge of this subject.

Robert (rgdem999) Rgdem999 (talk) 16:37, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

I would hardly call Vami_IV's request bullying, but you are correct in that HMS prefixs aren't appropriate for pre-Restoration ships.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 17:26, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

Bullying an author is when an article is reverted with no ACTUAL fact checking of what was written. The article that I refer to is the item on Tiger 1647. The article is incorrectly titled as no hard copy reference supports the title 'TYGER'. This article was blatently and in a bullish manner just reverted without any corroborating evidence that my edit was incorrect or in error.

This is called bullying as it is just the original author not excepting the terms of Wikipedia for updating of articles with supported material.

Robert (rgdem999 142.127.231.151 (talk) 19:37, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

This is really a couple of centuries before my time, but I will note that Winfield, British Warships in the Age of Sail, 1603–1714 does spell it Tiger, but admits that he has corrected several of the spellings in Pepys' 1660 Register.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 20:05, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

Wikipedia being a tertiary source, we follow the sources. Perhaps we could have some textual support for some of the facts being bandied? Rodger (Rodger, N.A.M. (2004). The Command of the Ocean: A Naval History of Britain 1649–1815. London: Penguin. ISBN 0-713-99411-8) mentions a Royal Navy under Charles I in the index but not the text and a Navy Royal under Henry VIII, James I and Charles I, also in the index but not the text. Sadly, none of this bears on the use of "HMS". Gog the Mild (talk) 19:47, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

Or perhaps Wikipedia guidelines? I am indebted to ((u|Pickersgill-Cunliffe}} for "Ship naming conventions state "do not use the HMS prefix for English ships from before 1660. The term "His Majesty's Ship" was introduced around 1660 and was routinely abbreviated HMS from about 1780 onwards"." Gog the Mild (talk) 19:53, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

The English Navy at the time of Charles I was known as the The Navy Royal as these were the King's Ships. Up to the 1649 (execution of Charles I) the english navy was not soley owned by the King. After the Restoration in May 1660 Charles II permitted the Navy the moniquer 'Royal' in place of English Navy Rgdem999 (talk) 01:00, 7 December 2022 (UTC)

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I have revised the offending content and would like to resubmit the article. I have rewritten and restructured the content. Would you prefer the article be placed in my sandbox or just recreate on the original spot that was deleted. Not interested in offending anyone or be in breach of rules. If this is not adequate please let me know. Rgdem999 (talk) 19:40, 29 June 2022 (UTC)

I have placed the revision in my sandbox. Would like a yeah or Naye if I should continue or do you delete or block my ability to edit. Rgdem999 (talk) 22:07, 29 June 2022 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:100mm/45 Modèle 1933

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:27, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

cannot find enough information to complete so thank you for removing this

I have decided to write and contribute ships of the 17th and 18th centuries as I have much more information in these areas Rgdem999 (talk) 14:27, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

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Nice tightly done start-class work. I'm replacing a couple of "she" with Falcon to keep the text more specific.

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BusterD (talk) 19:14, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

sounds good to me Rgdem999 (talk) 19:24, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

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Thank you for creating Martin (1652).

User:Bruxton, while examining this page as a part of our page curation process, had the following comments:

Same ship: Called HMS here.

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Bruxton (talk) 18:46, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

Ships built prior to May 1660 that have HMS in the title are erroneous as the Royal Navy and the right to have HMS before the name was only granted in May 1660 by HRH King Charles II at the Restoration of the Monarchy.

If you wish to change it to the incorrect title feel free. BUT you will need to change to 1651 Programme group and the incorrect Frigate list. No actual frigates were built prior to 1750. All prior ships were not frigates, unless you are going to class every single sailing ship as a frigate. Rgdem999 (talk) 18:56, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

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