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Tenny

I have been reading your edits to Tenney, Minnesota and find it quite interesting. Are you one of the six residents? -Ravedave ^{(Adopt a State)} 16:09, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

I'm not a resident, although I will soon own a couple of vacant lots in town. I live in Fargo, ND with my wife and three kids. Many people have lake cabins or vacation properties - I can't afford those luxuries now, but I bring my family to Tenney about twice a month in the summer for exploring, yardwork, and bonfires. Someday soon I'll have a lot more disposable income, but for now my hobby is visiting Tenney, exploring, helping the folks who live there with upkeep and maintenance, and improving the Tenney page here at Wikipedia. If you're local we could sure use some help in the spring with a big cleanup project at the old Tenney church (now city hall). Let me know if you're interested! Spottacus 07:12, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Interesting. I have never heard of Tenney until I stumbled across it. I'm in Shakopee, Minnesota. If you are interested in Minnesota articles you should join out Wikipedia:WikiProject Minnesota. There are some pretty dedicated people there. We recently got Minnesota and Climate of Minnesota to featured status, and History of Minnesota is up for it now, check it out. -Ravedave ^{(Adopt a State)} 02:28, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

I just want to remind you to keep the article encyclopedic. The section you added here is decidedly not. -Ravedave ^{(Adopt a State)} 20:31, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Of course you're right, and I've edited the section in question. It may not be salvageable, but it seems like a courtesy that I owe to the folks in Tenney, since vandalism is a real problem for them. And if the articles I wrote for Wikipedia and Wikitravel get them any more slackjawed drivethroughs, then they may experience more vandalism as well. Spottacus 23:22, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Good call on deleting the "Exploration" section altogether. I probably would have done it myself in the next few days. Now I need your advice on citing my source for most of the historical information in the Tenney article. The majority of it comes from an unpublished, uncredited booklet that was distributed at the city's centennial celebration in 1985. How in the world do I cite a source like that? Or can I at all? Secondly, I rely on the US Census Bureau for the statistics on Tenney's declining population. Is it enough to mention in the text that the stats are from the Census, which is well documented information in the public domain, or do I need to be more specific and provide a link to the Census Bureau's historical data website, or do I need to be even more specific and provide a link to the pdf download page for the specific census year referenced? (This gets very tedious after a while). Let me know what you think.Spottacus 14:16, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

On the matter of your article

The article is indeed written like an advertisement, though not blatenly obvious. Even if you don't think that it is, the article doesn't follow Wikipedia formatting guidelines. A quick rewrite can easily solve the problem. Have a nice day! (or night, depending on your time zone ;) ) --Cremepuff222 (talk, sign book) 01:23, 4 March 2007 (UTC) No, it's written as a stub. It doesn't extol a company's virtues or solicit business, nor would advertising benefit this company in any case. A little constructive criticism would be welcome, but open-ended advice like "a quick rewrite can easily solve the problem" is useless if I don't know what the problem is, and so far the problem has not been defined. Any thoughts?Spottacus 01:45, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Mountains

Do you have references for Sawtooth Mountains (Minnesota) or Misquah Hills articles? I looked around when I created the Eagle Mountain (Minnesota) page, but I couldn't find anything. -Ravedave 18:59, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Dave, I just did a Google search. The info on the Misquah Hills came from http://www.rook.org/earl/bwca/lists/glossary/m.html and the article on the Sawtooths came mostly from memory. The Sawtooths is from some time ago, and I couldn't even tell you whether I did any research or just keyed in what I already knew for sure.Spottacus 19:22, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Aren't the Misquah Hills and the Sawtooths considered separate ranges? I thought that the Misquahs were inland and the Sawtooths were on the lakeshore. Kablammo 21:33, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm prepared to be proved wrong, but I believe that Warren Upham, the state geologist who wrote the great reference book "Minnesota Place Names," described Minnesota as having only one mountain range, and questioning the validity of describing the Sawtooths as mountains. That would mean that either the Misquah Hills are part of the Sawtooths, or they are a separate feature, but not mountains. Since they're part of the same geologic feature, and considering their close proximity, I've considered them to be a part of the Sawtooths but with their own geographical and political delineation. Spottacus 22:23, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the response. I doubt that either range would be considered mountains by most residents of Alpine regions. Undoubtedly the Sawtooth and Misquah share the same geology, but without a source (whether Upham or someone else) say that one is part of the other, or that they are the same, it might be best not to assert that. I'll do a little digging myself with the meagre print resources available to me. Thanks for creating these articles; we need more articles on the features of Northeast Minnesota. Kablammo 22:44, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Not being an expert myself, I think the best thing I can do is defer to a geologic authority. Upham is the only such person I've found who makes any kind of statement on the subject, although his original reference book was published around 1920 or earlier and the entire region may not have been surveyed by then. Make whatever adjustments you deem necessary, I'm agreeable. Spottacus 22:49, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

On further review, I've determined that Upham didn't consider the Misquah Hills to be a part of the Sawtooth Mountains. In his entry on the mountains of Cook County, Minnesota Upham referred to Carlton Peak as the highest summit of the Sawtooths, and Eagle Mountain is 500 feet higher than Carlton. Later he refers to the Misquah Hills as an "east to west range," and doesn't mention the Sawtooths. So you were clearly right, and I'm making edits to that effect. Nice work on the Duluth Complex article, by the way. Short and sweet and well documented. Spottacus 03:20, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. I wrote a brief article on Palisade Head which perhaps could be referred to or linked in the pieces you wrote. I'm not sure if it considered one of the Sawtooths or if it is an anamoly, but it seems to be part of the Duluth Complex. I look forward to working with you on these articles. Kablammo 23:46, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

I the Sawtooths article to your Palisade Head article. I liked the photo in the Palisade Head article so well I downloaded it and now I'm using it for wallpaper. Spottacus 20:25, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

The photo (which is not mine) has some visible spots or artifacts in it-- I downloaded it myself and cleaned it up but I haven't yet figured out how to upload it to Wikipedia to use in place of the one now there. Incidentally, I found a source (Ojakangas) which says the the Sawtooths are east of Palisade Head, so apparently it may not be considered to be one of them-- I'll confirm that again next time I check the source. Kablammo 20:32, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Hills or Mountains?

The Uncategorized tag has been placed on a few of your contributions. There does not yet seem to be a category for Hills of Minnesota or for Mountains of Minnesota (although there is one for Rock formations in Minnesota). It probably is time to create one. I have a hard time calling them mountains; what do you think? Kablammo 23:58, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

There already is a cat - Category:Mountains of Minnesota -Ravedave 01:51, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

As long as they're big hills that rise above the surrounding country, I'd call them mountains. I think to some degree the distinction between hills and mountains has to be relative and is somewhat subjective. Incidentally, are there also categories for hills and bluffs? Spottacus 15:26, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Bluffs may fit under Category:Rock formations in Minnesota. On the question of hills vs. mountains, the wikipedia articles on them mention some British usage with the line between them set at 1000 or 2000' above sea level-- a definition which would make a mountain out of the entire state of Colorado. I suppose that if a hill is referred to as a mountain, it is not up to us to redefine it, so the Mountains of Minnesota is the category that should be added to any article which refers to a Minnesota "mountain". Kablammo 16:44, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Bluffs have a somewhat different geological meaning--the term is usually used to mean sedimentary rock shelves with sides worn down by rivers. Barn Bluff in Red Wing, MN, along the Mississippi would be an example. Different geologists and geographers form different countries use the term mountains to mean different things, but the most standard geological term, and one which differentiates mountains from bluffs, applies to peaks generated by orogenic activity, or Orogeny. The Misquahs and Sawteeth both fit this bill, both according to Raisz and Ojakangas (and most likely any other geologist who has identified rock samples in or from this area--though these two are probably some of the best published and most readable authorities on Minnesota geology). As part of the Duluth Complex, they are also part of the Laurentian Shield, the precambrian super-range that includes the smaller ranges of the Misquahs and Sawteeth in Minnesota, the Penokee Range in Wisconsin, the Gogebic, Porcupine, and Huron Mountains in Michigan, Ishpantina Ridge, Mt. McKay and the Norwesters, and the Killarney Peaks in Ontario, The Laurentian Mountains and Gatineau Hills in Quebec, The Torngat Mountains in Labrador, and the Adirondack Mountains in New York. It might be an idea for Wikipedia to develop a geological category: "Mountain Ranges of the Laurentian Shield" or "Mountain Ranges of the Canadian Shield" in which all of these can fit. I would be happy to write any articles for this not yet written. As far as local references to "mountains," "hills," or whatever, in the Western United States 300 feet of topographic prominence is usually the standard of differentiating a mountain from whatever surrounds it--usually other mountains or foothills. In the Eastern US, using the Catskill Mountains as an example, locals tend to define individual mountains as having 200 feet of prominence. I think either category could serve the Misquahs, probably also most of the Sawteeth. But as some geographers joke: if the locals call it a mountain, whatever it is, one approach is to be nice and just agree with those nice folks, smiling and nodding if necessary.Geograph66n 21:58, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

I favor Mountain Ranges of the Laurentian Shield and would love to help in any way I can. Let me know if you decide to spearhead such a project. Brain Rodeo 00:28, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Hi Brain Rodeo; this sounds great to me. I favor Mountain Ranges of the Laurentian Shield also. Thanks much for your offer of help. I'm right in the thick of paper/exam-grading at the moment, but I'd love to start work on this when the semester ends in December. I really enjoyed your article on the Leaf Hills Moraines. Hopefully I'll get to visit them one of these days.Geograph66n 22:05, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the kind words, although I can't take much credit for the Leaf Hills Moraines article. It was a very good collaborative effort with several significant contributors. I'm afraid that for all my enthusiasm I'm not very qualified for articles of a geological nature, but as always I'm very willing to try. Brain Rodeo 22:11, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Pics

Dunno what to tell you about the Duluth complex pics. I am not sure the Minnesota Geological Society gives away much work. Another complication might be that it is owned by the MGS and not the author. You could start with the email address on the main page [1] and see if you can get the author's name. As for the other pictures you may want to check out this page, Wikipedia:Example_requests_for_permission, it gives examples of how to request permissions for pictures. Good luck, tell me what happens. -Ravedave 03:22, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

City

Looks like Tenny has a rival: Bear Head Lake, Minnesota :) -Ravedave 04:31, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, yes and no. If Bear Head Lake is an unorganized territory, that means that it's just a patch of land with no municipal government. So it might as well be a farm field or an island in a swamp. Bear Head Lake, you just got served! Spottacus 04:53, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

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Leaf Mountains

You seem to have access to some good geography references. Do any of them say anything about the Leaf Mountains? They are prominently mentioned in my primary source for Red River Trails and perhaps they merit an article. Kablammo 23:46, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

As you may have guessed, I was hoping you's say that! If you do a stub I can add some material from the Gilman book on the Red River trails, which describes the area pre-settlement. Thanks. Kablammo 00:35, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Great job-- I'll add some sources and text on geology and history. Due to other commitments (and nice weather) it may take me a couple of days to do more than dabble. Kablammo 14:20, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

I might be done now. (Never say never.) Thanks for setting these up.

On another matter, see this suggestion: [2] To tell the truth, I'd do it-- and take a look at the Leaf Mountains and Inspiration Peak on the way, and catch Traverse Gap on the way there or back.

Regards, Kablammo 18:44, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

• Do you think we should change name of article to just Leaf Hills, with Leaf Hills Moraines being a redirect? Leaf Hills may be a more common name.
• I responded to your comment on my talk page. To keep threads together, I'll respond to your inquiries on my talk page, and watch yours for responses to mine, if that's OK.
• There does not seem to be a lot of interest in a gathering even in the Twin Cities, much less a hamlet which makes Lake Woebegon look metropolitan. I nevertheless would be interested even in a small group if we could entice a few others -- perhaps CJLippert would come. When do leaves peak out on the prairie? (Oh, that's right-- you don't have trees. I'd have to catch them on the way.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kablammo (talk • contribs) 12:25, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Let's see...

• I would be okay with that, although I think it would be even better to have Leaf Hills redirect to the article as currently titled.
• We'll do as you suggested.
• I have a wife and three little boys, and my boys love to go to Tenney to run wild and have picnics and bonfires. In addition, the city owns a building called the "Social Hall," which is used for parties and events. I really enjoy having parties and picnics, and would love to host as many people as might choose to visit - whoever they are. Spottacus 14:46, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Ah! Someone was talking about me... I felt that unexplained tickle in my psyche for the past week, and wasn't sure why. BTW. WCCO-TV was saying that there are 2 areas where the leaves have 50% turned; one of those areas appeared on TV as the Leaf Mountains. Otherwise, in about 3 weeks, the Iskigamizigan area of the zaagajiwi-neyaashi ("Sugaring-grounds" of Shaw-Bosh-Kung Point) of Mille Lacs Lake will be changing colours here. CJLippert 18:56, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Another name question . . .

. . . regarding "Blue Earth".[3] Can you help? Kablammo 23:08, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Town team baseball

FYI, I'm proposing merging all of the town team baseball articles into one. See the convo here. – Freechild (¡!¡!¡!¡) 20:59, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

You might consider taking the teams listed here and making an article to the effect of List of Town Team Baseball teams in Minnesota, rather than let them idle on that talk page. – Freechild (¡!¡!¡!¡) 05:02, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

That's a very reasonable suggestion. It would be a list of leagues in Minnesota, rather than a list of teams. I might do it, if I can figure out the proper way to configure a list. I'm a little behind the curve when it comes to formatting issues. Spottacus 07:38, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Thinking of changing my user name

I'm thinking I'd like to change my user name for personal reasons, namely that it's also used by another family member in a different context (and has been for some time), and I want to avoid confusion and conflicts. I'm asking friends and acquaintances to share their wisdom with me. The following issues are bothering me:

• Procedurally, is there anything I should do other than just click "move" and do it?
• Will my past edits be adjusted to show the new name, or will the old one remain and merely redirect to the new one?
• Will other users think there's something shady going on?
• Is there a way for me to notify others that I'm doing so? (I think probably not)

I want to consult with those who I've met and worked with through Wikipedia. Please leave your thoughts and ideas here. Spottacus 01:28, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

I think this will answer your Qs: Wikipedia:Changing_username I would personally go for it and put a note on your new user pages saying "Formerly known as Spottacus". You could also put something in your signature mentioning your old name. -Ravedave 02:38, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Orthodox (boxing)

This seems to be a duplicate of Orthodox stance. Is there some good reason why it should not be merged/redirected? Angus McLellan (Talk) 14:50, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Let's discuss it at the article's talk page.Brain Rodeo 14:56, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Vintagekits can't edit there for the moment. Best to use his talk page. Angus McLellan (Talk) 14:59, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Meetup RSVP

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Minnesota Meetup

Sunday, 2007-10-07, 1:00 p.m. (13:00)
Pracna on Main
117 Main SE, Minneapolis, Minnesota
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Hi

Hope to meet you somewhere else some other time. -Susanlesch 15:11, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the invite. I live too far away for a meetup to be practical, but I've discussed a meetup in my neck of the prairie with Kablammo.Brain Rodeo 16:10, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

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Wish in one hand and shit in the other and see which one fills up quicker

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Cedar

The problem with the article as it is now is that it looks, until the end, like it's its own community. Official existence (or lack thereof), you know, is a big thing with US geography articles, so it needs to be emphasised that this is not its own community, not something out in the township. I'm editing again, seeking this time to solve problems without restoring the ones you believe I caused with the first one. Nyttend (talk) 03:56, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

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Panama Lewis page fraud by wiki against Aaron Pryor

The piece on Panama Lewis is a fraud against Aaron Pryor. Did you write this ? Aaron Pryor won the first fight against Alexis Arguello from start to finish. The fight was not even close. Have you actually watched the fight ? The page appears full of undocumented Point Of View content. —Preceding unsigned comment added by JohnShocked (talk • contribs) 03:20, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

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Why are you Brain Rodeo fighting to perpetuate this slander against Aaron Pryor ? Why not let the truth stand, late in arriving as it is ? Where is the text you deleted which I wrote, and what are you claiming is in that text which is not acceptable. I documented what I stated in that piece with the facts: the tape of the fight itself. What could possibly be wrong with that ? (also, what is the official method for sending a Wiki editor, such as yourself, a message ?)

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As I have stated, citing truthful statements about Pryor-Arguello-1 by boxing writers at that time is difficult, because of the promotion campaign pro-Arguello, anti-Pryor which Bob Arum had generated at the time. I do not know of a single boxing writer who told the truth about this fight.

And that is a big part of the reason why boxing fans like me stopped reading boxing writers and eventually lost interest in the sport, and ultimately why boxing is dying as a viable sport right now. Finding the accurate quote you state is required is simply not a likely development. Most people writing today about this fight, simply have not seen the fight.

Note references to a "black bottle" (it was transparent plastic) and the writer who wrote that wiki piece said that it was after the 12th round, when it was after the 13th, which I corrected. He simply had not watched the fight. What is the value of someone claiming a quote of someone else, when the fight tape is available ?

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Disagree. Deletion is called for here. This boxer is a local fighter who has not participated in any notable amateur teams, nor has he fought for or wn any notable or recognized championships. Fails WP:ATHLETE. - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 19:10, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

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Same issues as with Johnson above. - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 19:11, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Better, and enough for me to remove the speedy delete tag for now — but I may put it back later. A few concerns: 1) "The American Boys" website may not be considered a reliable source, since it seeks sponsorships for these boxers. 2) Some of the acronyms needed to be spelled out, such as MBF and PAL. 3) It would help greatly if you could find some references from something like a newspaper or magazine to help establish credibility and notability. Keep working on it, and let me know if you need help. - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 19:58, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

DYK

On 20 April, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Duluth Complex, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

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BR-- Thanks for the note, and for the good start to this article! Regards, Kablammo (talk) 14:00, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Brian Brunette

You might be right about Brian Brunette, but more talk about who he is may be helpful in establishing his notoriety. I made a few changes to help the page be a bit more clear. I also did a google search on the fellow, not much information was found. I have more google results than he does. Plhofmei (talk) 07:24, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Bold

I'm just editing as per the Manual of Style guidelines that I'm sure you're aware of. Boldface is used for the title name and any acronyms and/or synonyms of such. If you're talking about other professional boxers then they should be red-linked as they meet the notability guidelines but have not had an article created about them.

Also, what is the deal with filling unknown information with a load of X's? It's not very encyclopedic or informative. Cheers, --Jimbo^[online] 00:02, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

2008 meetup

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Minnesota Meetup

Saturday, 2008-10-11 noon (12:00)

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You said you wished you could have made the last meetup, so I wanted to make sure you knew about this one. Hope to see you there. Jonathunder (talk) 17:15, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Minneapolis Meetups

Town Hall Brewery
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1430 Washington Ave S
Minneapolis, MN 55454
(612) 339-8696
October 11, 2008
Saturday at 12:00 noon (midday)
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Muddy Waters
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2401 Lyndale Ave S
Minneapolis, MN 55405
(612) 872-2232
October 10, 2008
Friday at 10:00 PM (at night)
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Just updating the calendar. Feel free to pass along these invitations. -SusanLesch (talk) 18:07, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Micheal faulk

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Smug and self-satisfied

Doubtless you've seen Daedalus969's response at ANI. What do you suggest happens now? I've pointed out some intolerable behaviour. All seem to agree it to be so. The perpetrator is unrepentent, professing that his attitude has not changed one iota, and his behaviour continues. Paul Beardsell (talk) 17:45, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

No, I am sorry.  :-) Thanks. Paul Beardsell (talk) 21:25, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

My behavior continues? What a load of BS. That user was blatantly insulting me, calling me crazy/nuts just because I CSD'd a page he created. Why don't you stop stalking my edits and painting me red when I'm not.— Dædαlus ^Contribs 22:03, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

I'm still waiting, you're stalking my edits, telling lies about me. You said I inappropreiately told a user he was personally attking me. Do tell me, how are "Are you nuts. Can't you see the source that is added?, User is total nuts, and Personal attack. Iam sorry even if adding reliable source is not reliable then you are total nuts" not personal attacks?— Dædαlus ^Contribs 22:11, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

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Your contribution to Darfur, Minnesota reaps publicity

On March 16, 2008, you added information to the page on Darfur, Minnesota which does not jibe with its cited source. You will doubtless be happy to know that James Lileks has quoted this nonsense verbatim today in an article on buzz.mn.Bellczar (talk) 18:35, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Nice edit on the AMX Sprint article

Btw, if you want to make links to sections in an article, then the easiest way to link say 'Section (section 1)' in 'Article' is with markup like '[[Article#Section (section 1)]]'. Nevard (talk) 06:10, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Minnesota Meetup

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2009

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Re: Tenney, Minnesota

Unfortunately it can't be included on Wikipedia as a City becuase it does not met the metropolis requirements for inclusion. Also, it is the smallest town by square milage and NOT by population, which according to the census is 6, another gore holds the record for one resident at the present time so this is untrue. I have undid your edit. --70.121.35.167 (talk) 17:27, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

The city has a full complement of elected officials. It levies property taxes on its landowners and on the grain elevator. Tenney is a city of Minnesota by statute, and a proclamation from the governor of Minnesota hangs on the wall at city hall. Fortunately, it's state law that defines what a city is, not Wikipedia policy. I'll leave the article as it is for now, and I'll get a copy of the proclamation to post in the article before I change it to read 'city' again later. Brain Rodeo (talk) 20:18, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

Please see WP:TOWN and Wikipedia:WikiProject Cities/Guideline --70.121.35.167 (talk) 21:36, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

When fact and Wikipedia policy disagree, which is correct? Brain Rodeo (talk) 22:21, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

Neither, but to keep out confusion and wrong re-directs they use guidelines to set up a system so order is in place of what is considored a city, a town, a village or a gore. If you were to include Tenney as a City it would contradict the exact definition of a City is! It will be oxy-moronic. --70.121.35.167 (talk) 17:02, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Brain Rodeo: I'm not sure what this is all about, but Tenney is a chartered city, as you mentioned. And I'm not sure why a Wikipedia definition, or any other, should supersede that fact.

Some other links of interest:

• http://www.demography.state.mn.us/DownloadFiles/pdf/Census%202K7-%20Population.pdf p. 4, right-hand column
• http://www.mba.state.mn.us/DocketResource.html?Id=4019 at end
• http://www.lmic.state.mn.us/datanetweb/php/citycountylist.php#T
• http://www.osa.state.mn.us/reports/spi/2001/tenney/report.pdf scandal! just like the big towns!

Kablammo (talk) 21:20, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Your sources contradict each other, one calling it a "community" and town when the other lists it as a city. Without accurate proof, it should remain as a town. Also, when you said Wikipedia definition <-- no such thing exists becuase definition on Wikipedia is pretty much just that, the definition. cause it's based on sources. Wikipedia doesn't make definitions of words. --70.121.35.167 (talk) 02:01, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

Actually the sources say it is a city (except for the second, which does not use the word "city" even to refer to urban areas), and under Minnesota law, Tenney is classified as a city of the fourth class. The websites above are all official Minnesota state websites; the Minnesota Historical Society also has a data entry on Tenney, stating it was incorporated in 1901. Those are reliable sources; Wikipedia is not. As for other points: The "exact definition of a city" (if there is such a thing) clearly depends on the jurisdiction. While Minnesota has unincorporated areas, the term "gore" has no significance. In any event Tenney is, in fact, incorporated, and a comparision of it to an unincorporated area is not a true comparision. As an incorporated municipality, Tenney is a city; there is no other municipal classification that fits under Minnesota law and practice.

Now one can ask why and how a settlement, crossroads, village, tank town or one-horse town (sorry, Brain Rodeo) such as Tenney can be classified as a city. The answer is, that under Minnesota law, it is a city, and it is not for Wikipedia to say otherwise. Kablammo (talk) 19:38, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

Description of classifications: [4] As shown, the state has 771 cities with populations of less than 10,000. Kablammo (talk) 23:42, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

Kablammo, if the authorities ever figure out what I've been doing with my wood chipper, I want you to defend me! Brain Rodeo (talk) 07:36, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

BLP issues

Good to hear from you! I hope all is well out on the plains.

Here is the relevant policy: Wikipedia:Blp#Remove_unsourced_or_poorly_sourced_contentious_material. The WP:3RR restriction does not apply, and you should be able to revert without consequence (provided any admin who wanders by is aware of that policy).

You can also try WP:RPP if you wish, but my experience there has been mixed. With a BLP issue involved they might be more willing to protect a page.

And even if the claim were sourced, undue weight would be given to it in an article like this; it is, as you said, not encylopedic. Regards, Kablammo (talk) 23:23, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

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Sawtooth Mountains redux

Hello again! I trust your favorite small town is still a city!

I was drawn to this article again by a recent edit, and in looking into Upham on Google books (which I don't beleive I had done before). he says the range is only 30 miles long, from Tofte to GM. I've edited the article accordingly, but some of the individual peaks may have to changed as well.

Upham gives the name of the entire range above the lakeshore as the Cabotian Mountains, which I had heard before, but doubt the name's in common usage. On the other hand, I don't know of any other name for it.

Regards, Kablammo (talk) 23:46, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Tenney makes the big time!

Tenney has been discovered.[5] And it's a reliable source! Kablammo (talk) 03:06, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Gulshan Esther

The fact is that apostasy from islam is a criminal offence in Pakistan and many other muslim countries. Gulshan wasn't imprisoned without charge because she was being persecuted for her christian beliefs; if in fact she WAS imprisoned (this claim, like all the others in the article, is not supported by credible references) then it would have been on a charge of apostasy. By converting to christianity she violated Pakistani law and was liable to imprisonment. Personally I am an atheist and I think all laws regarding apostasy, blasphemy etc are disgusting, but the fact is that apostates in islamic countries are liable to punishment under the laws of those countries. Had she become an atheist, hindu or baha'i she would also have been imprisoned.

Anyway, the article is dreadful. In its previous form it was a happy mix of POV and pseudoscience; the way it was written treated the alleged "miracles" as facts, which of course is not a safe assumption. There is no known mechanism by which a possibly mythical person from 1st century Judea can heal paralysis in 20th century Pakistan, so it is at best an unsubstantiated claim. —Preceding unsigned comment added by FergusM1970 (talk • contribs) 11:39, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

"Persecution" is not limited to extra-legal acts. Marcus Aurelius persecuted Christians and Nazis persecuted Jews under statutes adopted for those purposes; history abounds with other examples. Kablammo (talk) 16:12, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

The Pakistani government does not support the persecution of religious minorities for their beliefs; theoretically at least (yes, I know exactly how much of a mess Pakistan is) if you are born a christian that is just fine with the authorities. IF any of the events in Gulshan's book happened (there is no supporting evidence for this, and a large body of scientific knowledge that says some of her claims are impossible) her imprisonment would not have been for the her christian beliefs; it would have been for her apostasy. FergusM1970 (talk) 14:54, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

This is a pretty extreme case of hairsplitting, Fergus. Persecution of Christians and minority Muslims does occur in Pakistan, [6] [7] and an expansive definition of persecution would include the punishment of former Muslims (apostates) as well. Brain Rodeo (talk) 17:37, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

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Meetup

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	Date: 31 October 2010
	Time: noon
	Place: Midtown Exchange Global Market, East Lake Street, Minneapolis, Minnesota 44.9493°N 93.2612°W / 44.9493; -93.2612

Suggestions for next Minnesota meetup?

Hi, Brain Rodeo, do you have any suggestions for a next date or place for a Minnesota meetup? I was disappointed to miss last Sunday's meetup once a work meeting coincided with the time announced for the meetup. I would be happy to arrange a meetup soon. I noticed that you mentioned on the talk page for the meetups that you are in Fargo, and I wonder if having the meetup in St. Cloud would help shorten your trip. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk, how I edit) 14:20, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

To tell you the truth, what would really help me is more advance notice before the meetup, so I could plan a trip to the Cities to accommodate my social schedule. For me, traveling 240 miles to Minneapolis or 180 miles to St Cloud is "a horse apiece." Brain Rodeo (talk) 15:38, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. Perhaps you have just seen the proposal by another editor to have a meetup at the Minnesota Historical Society in St. Paul when the society can arrange hosting the meeting. That would be a welcome opportunity to meet other Minnesota wikipedians. I have requested a Geonotice to editors with I.P. addresses associated with Minnesota to elicit more discussion on the meetup talk page about where and when the next meetup should be. I hope that allows people who are traveling greater distances time to plan the trip and allows everyone to clear their schedules. See you there, when we know where there is. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk, how I edit) 16:10, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

New meetup

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Brain, thanks for prodding me about the Minnesota Originals video. Watching it moved me off the fence to Weak Keep. Yakushima (talk) 14:02, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

I've since improved the citations. This can make a significant different in perceptions of notability. See, for example, Theo Botha. Sure, crap article, still, but you have to wonder why anybody ever thought he fell short of WP:GNG. Well, when it it was nominated for deletion, it looked more like this [8], before I spent about a day cleaning up the cited sources. There's something about footnotes containing not only bibliographic minutiae but blue text embedded within that minutiae that gives knee-jerk "delete"-voters pause. Anyway, good luck with this. Maybe you'll get a "no consensus" from the AfD closer, which will buy time for Sedra to become unambiguously notable by WP:MUSICBIO standards. (Which themselves could use some work, IMHO -- my Weak Keep here is almost a protest vote against their current imprecision). Yakushima (talk) 14:52, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

I really appreciate your work on the citations, Yakushima. I'm long on composition and short on formatting, always have been. Thanks for the assistance and the feedback. Brain Rodeo (talk) 21:30, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

I've since added a wikilink to National Old-Time Fiddlers Contest, and written it up. An article for it already existed, it turns out. However, mine substantiates notability via third-party sources, so it should help in determining whether the contest Sedra won with Alex Depue counts as "major" in WP:MUSICBIO terms. If it does, she's in. If not, well, maybe it'll slow 'em down. ;-) What might also help a little: she's named in one of the tracks ("Waltz for Sedra") of the Peter Ostroushko album she played on. Not many session musicians get that kind of billing from the star player. Yakushima (talk) 15:31, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

Not much more time left on the clock, for the relisted AfD. Let me tell you how I got that one "Overwhelming Keep" vote. I went to the Wikipedia Music Project participants list, and picked a recently active editor. The only way in which I might have flirted with WP:CANVAS violation is that the editor mentioned "copy-editing" as his likely contribution. Well, I thought, he'll like my copy-editing. And indeed, he seemed so dazzled by it that he didn't notice some slight weaknesses in his (otherwise well-argued) Keep case.

If I may suggest a strategy based on this one vote (which might only have been a wild stroke of luck, I admit): pick out other editors at the Music Project who

• have been recently active,
• aren't obviously Minnesotans,
• show some evidence of citing guidelines and policies in AfD work.

Put a message on their talk pages, assessing the strengths and weaknesses of the case, admit that you're the article originator, admit that you can't be objective, and ask for their help. If the article goes down to Delete, and especially because you triggered a wave of Delete votes, well, at least you tried, and in a fair way. And surely a new Sedra Bistodeau will rise from those ashes eventually if not sooner, because she sure looks like she's got it in her. Wikipedia notability is forever, after all. And forever can wait. Yakushima (talk) 07:24, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

I asked two good editors to take a look at the AfD and join the discussion. I think I'll leave it at that. Thanks for your interest and your effort, though. Brain Rodeo (talk) 15:57, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Unnecessary, as it turned out. Closed as Keep, with no summary of reasons from the admin. (An admin I've got a few problems with, for relisting stuff that should clearly have been closed Delete[9], among other things. But I won't complain in this case. ;-) Yakushima (talk) 04:56, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

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Wikipedia Loves Libraries event

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Where: Minneapolis Central Library, 300 Nicollet Mall, Minneapolis
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Wikipedia Day Meetup on January 18

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