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Global terrorism database

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Thanks, but that list has older attacks. Where are more recent ones? Beejsterb (talk) 04:30, 31 May 2016 (UTC)

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I am not very clear on how I violated the rules. I am one of the only active editors of the page that seems to be the reason for my block, List of terrorist incidents, January–June 2016 (many of the incident's details section's you deleted were not posted by me). I attempt to paraphrase the "Details" section by correcting tense and removing irrelevant information, but is this not enough? If my problem was not paraphrasing the source text enough, then I will add quotations from now on, and if not, I will put the incident completely in my own words. The second thing I mentioned is difficult as the volume of terrorist incidents per day is very high, and I try to get through them quickly, so there may have been some errors in my quick paraphrasing. I apologize for what I did, and I promise to either put the source in quotations (even after paraphrasing it in the way I have been), or put it in my own words from here on out. I have been on this site for many years (6), but I have not been very active. I am learning, and hopefully I will become a better editor from this. Beejsterb (talk) 19:20, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

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I apologize, but I am a little confused. I read the article, and then I wrote that section completely in my own words. I tried to include all the information in the article, but worded in my own way. Most of the other sections has quite a but of information about the victim and that attacks, so I included information that you seemed to have removed. Could you please tell me how this is copyright? Thanks. Beejsterb (talk) 16:21, 28 May 2016 (UTC)

What you need to do is re-word the material completely into your own words. Sometimes this will mean material gets omitted. For example, it is not critical to know that he was killed by having his throat slit rather than being shot or bludgeoned, so that is why I omitted that part. It's also not important to know that he was "dead on the spot", a phrase which you copied directly from the source web page. This is why these amendments make the post more compliant with copyright law. — Diannaa (talk) 17:34, 28 May 2016 (UTC)

Thank you. Most of the other sections in the article have quite a bit of information on the attack and the people involved. I am not sure of the correct way to add this information. Should I add the information you deleted in my own words from the same source, use a completely different source, or not add anything at all? Which would be the best option for that section?

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Please do not make an article for every terror incident that looks "large" or "significant", unless you have source to suggest it is significant. As for the Aktobe attack, I belive it is significant, but in the past I"ve seen many needless articles about attacks that had no significance. Even if a 100 people died, as long as the attack doesn't have any significance (happenes alot in Nigeria), there's no need for a stub article. I am planning to try and filter out many needless articles about terror attacks that were created in the last year.--Bolter21 (talk to me) 19:00, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

I try to create articles for incidents that have lots of coverage and/or lots of causalities. I have ignored quite a few major attacks, such as executions and attacks that do not get much coverage. If an attack does not have many causalities, but gets lots of coverage (usually for a reason that makes the attack "unique"), I try to make a article, because those are usually notable. Attacks that aren't "unique", but have lots of casualties, usually get lots of coverage, so I create articles for those too if no one else has. I try to limit the amount of articles to only a few major attacks a month, and I usually create an article if there is a lot of information that cannot be included in the list. This is my reasoning for creating articles. Beejsterb (talk) 21:32, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

I think the importance of an attack it's the significane and aftermath. For example, the attack in Kazakhstan is something new, and large. The attack in Belguim also. But everyday attacks in Iraq are not significant for the most part, as they are not a major development. In Israel we had three attacks that reveived an article: One that had full coverege for two weeks, was in Tel Aviv (major area) and had a very unusual. The other one was an attack that started a police operation to capture all illegal residents in the country and the third was the first succesful suicide bombing attack in a long time, that injured over 20 people in a bus in Jerusalem. All those attacks are either a development or a very very unusual attacks. I don't blame you for opening articles for unimportant attacks, cause I really don't follow who updates the list since I stopped doing so in February, but since you wrote you are going to start an article, I felt the need to tell you this. Good luck.--Bolter21 (talk to me) 21:45, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

All of the smaller attacks I include have some sort of major effect the comes after the attacks. The Real Madrid attack had an major impact on the team, and the gas plant attack had an impact of the power in the city In Baghdad.

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Jo Cox killing terrorism

I was talking about the Wikipedia article itself not accepting the terrorism category. I had classified it under "Terrorism in England", but that edit was undone. That was what I was talking about in my edit summary. Parsley Man (talk) 03:24, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

Those people who reverted it are clearly wrong, and you should start a discussion with them as the incident is very clearly an act of terrorism. Every terrorism article I know that this one fits into has it, so those editors are incorrect. Example: List of terrorist incidents in Great Britain, this article includes it. Beejsterb (talk) 03:35, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

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The bombing of Baghdad July 2016

Good evening. I make changes based on the statement of the Iraqi Minister of Health on the Iraqi TV quasi-government through contact with her. And we are still waiting for Official statement to prove the final number of victims . To your knowledge, there are more than 165 people missing to this moment. There are a similar number of bodies did not recognize it yet.

We are still waiting for the final announcement for the preparation of the victims dead and wounded. And even issued such a declaration, you can found here. The Arabic-language news about the rising death toll . But the news contain the wrong number for the missing and injured number . Thank you . مؤيد العودة (talk) 11:33, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

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You have been on WP for quite a while now and it's way past the time for you learn how to add references properly. Please read Wikipedia:Citing sources and perhaps also take a look at Template:Cite news and its relatives. Cheers YSSYguy (talk) 08:18, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

I know how to reference, I usually do it after the activity of an article goes down. See my references of the Kabul attack on Canadian Embassy Guards Beejsterb (talk) 15:05, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

Weird how I remove info from an article because it's not supported by a given source, then you reinstate it with a different source and imply that I am not reading sources correctly. As for coming back later to "do it after the activity of an article goes down" - ????? YSSYguy (talk) 23:00, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

The article is currently very active with many edits. Once they stop, that is when I usually add in references. Some sources I added at the end of sentences to make it more clear, even though the sources were already in the article. The thing I was talking about is that you keep removing one particular sentence even though there is a whole section in the source that talks about it. This sentence is "Flights from Montreal Saint-Hubert Longueuil Airport were temporarily cancelled because of the accident and bad weather." If you read this source, http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/magdalen-island-crash-pilots-react-1.3513601, you will find the information you keep removing in large, bold letters located near the top, somewhat down the page. Beejsterb (talk) 03:17, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

If you don't reference properly, then there is the potential for the to-and-fro and pointless editing that we are currently experiencing. As for the contentious sentence, the source says "Pascan Aviation cancelled its Tuesday flights for the Magdalen Islands." It says nothing about WHY. I have checked Pascan's schedule and guess what? Its flights to the Magdalens are scheduled for the morning, arriving before the time of the crash. Your addition of a sentence saying that "flights from Montreal Saint-Hubert Longueuil Airport were temporarily cancelled because of the accident and bad weather" is a conclusion that you have drawn from a source that says nothing about either supposed reason. The source says the weather was not good and it says that Pascan cancelled certain flights TO the Magdalens (which apparently is not even served directly from Montreal anyway) that day. You have stitched those two facts together. Please read Wikipedia:No original research. Thank you for wasting more of my time. YSSYguy (talk) 04:44, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

My edit said that "Flights from Montreal Saint-Hubert Longueuil Airport were temporarily cancelled". It is in this part of the text: "Other flights cancelled: Pascan Aviation cancelled its Tuesday flights for the Magdalen Islands". Flights were cancelled, it does not matter who's flights were cancelled. If you want, that could be added to make it more clear in the article. Why was it cancelled? In the source, it states this: "Some pilots at St-Hubert airport told CBC News they didn't want to risk flying in the bad conditions...it's up to the pilot to decide whether to fly". So, the reason why the flights were cancelled was because of bad weather. Therefore, I put this in the article: "Airport were temporarily cancelled because of the accident and bad weather". Now, the source does not clearly state that the accident caused the delays, so I am re-adding the information without that part. Beejsterb (talk) 23:46, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

...and I have removed the sentence again because you are interpreting the text and drawing inferences, which we as editors must not do. Some pilots are not allowed to fly in cloud (even if the weather isn't bad per se) as they do not have the appropriate training and licence ratings. Maybe these were the pilots the newspaper reporter talked to - who knows? (We certainly don't.) Apart from that, we are talking about the weather at the departure airport the best part of a thousand kilometres from the crash site, so it isn't even relevant to the crash. You need to distinguish between what is important in a source document and what is not; it is not necessary to repeat every detail contained in the source (that would help with your copyvio issues as well). Imagine someone five years from now reading the article, he/she might think that the two airports were close together, otherwise why have info about weather at the departure airport? YSSYguy (talk) 06:56, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

A page you created

I think page title needs to be changed to “Son of Ali al-Hadi Mausoleum attack” or “Attack on Mausoleum of son of Ali al-Hadi” . You may notice that burial place of Ali al-Hadi is situated in Samarra whereas the 7th July-2016 attack took place in Balad, Iraq targeting the shrine of Muhammad ibn Ali al-Hadi. So action by move or redirect is requested. Thanks Nannadeem (talk) 18:22, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

Sounds good. Beejsterb (talk) 18:30, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

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2015 Indian Border Security Force King Air crash

Obviously not unreferenced, I hit the wrong button before I changed my edit summary, but you cannot keep copying and pasting information. The second half of the sentence is irrelevant in any case, 'they had no plans to dispose of the aircraft'? Why is that important? They had no plans to destroy it in a crash either. As I advised earlier, learn the difference between what is relevant and what is not. YSSYguy (talk) 06:01, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

If, as you say, you know how to reference properly and you wait for activity to "die down" before doing so on the articles you edit, why is 2015 Indian Border Security Force King Air crash still not properly referenced after no activity for two months? I have a better idea - just do it properly straight off. YSSYguy (talk) 06:33, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

Iraqi news.com is not a reliable source appropriate for wikipedia

You are using the iraqinews.com website for https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents_in_July_2016

Iraqinews.com is not a reliable source and reports false news based on anonymous 'sources' resulting in wikipedia pages containing information about events that never happened

Further, you are using it as a source for war events, not terror attacks Fighting between iraqi security forces/militias and IS is war, not terrorism

Don't add war events and dont use iraqi news in future in future — Preceding unsigned comment added by Smith1122 (talk • contribs) 17:29, 27 July 2016 (UTC)

I disagree, Iraqi news is the best and most reliable English news source for Iraq that I have been able to find. If you have another source that is better, then I may use that one instead. It is not just me who uses Iraqi news, but other editors too. Beejsterb (talk) 20:51, 27 July 2016 (UTC)

I think you have a very unfortunate conflict of interest in editing all pages related to the Islamic State because you an Iranian Shia. You believe the propaganda that comes from Iraqinews.com even though it is fake news. Other editors are making the same mistake for te same reason as you. iraqinews.com has ZERO reliability, dont use it — Preceding unsigned comment added by Smith1122 (talk • contribs) 10:05, 28 July 2016 (UTC)

How can I not when you knowingly put false information on Wikipedia. Either you are stupid and vandalising Wikipedia, or you are stupid and vandalising Wikipedia because you are Iranian/otherwise have a bias/conflict of interest. Even if we ignore the false information, you still don't know the difference between war and terrorism because you have added war events in a terrorism event list. I mean let me just list some of the fake shit from Iraqinews.com

Iraq Islamic State executed 4 doctors for refusing to fight for them and treat their injured.[96] Does this pass the common sense smell test? Why would they execute doctors. Do you really think there are doctors who would rather die than treat IS members? Its stupid and outside reality another one Islamic State burned 3 family members to death, including a 2-year-old-girl, for trying to escape ISIS-held territory.[185] next, do you really believe IS burns 2 year old sunni girls alive?? its just made up

all these lies are from iraqinews.com i gave you two examples of fake news from that 'source' now dont use itSmith1122 (talk) 07:43, 29 July 2016 (UTC)

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Quetta Attack

You are right, the fatalities increased. But in the article you cited, it lists the injured as only 50+. Should that be changed in the article as well? El cid, el campeador (talk) 18:42, 10 August 2016 (UTC)

I found an article that said 120+ injured I will find it.

I believe you. I was just thinking that maybe since the number of fatalities increased, the injuries might have gone down. But I defer to you. Cheers!El cid, el campeador (talk) 20:20, 10 August 2016 (UTC)

actually you may be correct. I'll check other sources.

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Given my experience with the topic of terrorism, I feel like the issues you've outlined are actually something that need to be addressed at WP:VPP. I had thought long and hard about this while I was banned for a week, but wasn't sure if I should press forward once I got back. See, this is not my first time dealing with this controversy (I've had problems with at least a couple of other editors because of this ever since the beginning of the year), and while I can see the merit of your argument, I feel there's a substantial amount of people who'd disagree with the reasoning you and the other user (can't remember the name at the moment) are presenting. I feel like we're (not just us, Wikipedia users in general) sort of skirting all over the place with what should define a terrorist attack and I think VPP should be the place where we settle this once and for all. What do you think? Parsley Man (talk) 03:37, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

I only deleted those instances because those were the only ones that I was aware of. Parsley Man (talk) 01:58, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

Stop reverting the edits. We included unconfirmed edits on the page. It says so on the main page as it was decided in a discussion! All of these reversions are violating neutrality. Beejsterb (talk) 02:14, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

It seems like you need a refreshing on WP:OR. If it's unconfirmed, then it's already original research to already include it in such a list as if it's already been confirmed. Parsley Man (talk) 03:33, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

It is not original research since we include suspected incidents, like 95% of the incidents listed. I am not saying it is confirmed, there's a clarification we added on the main article. You are reverting specific ones. Also, you reverted my most recent edit for no reason. This edit was reverting a user who vandalized the death toll. I am also a busy person and do not have much time for this village stuff, although I may try to do it. Beejsterb (talk) 03:56, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

Yes, it is original research if the terrorist motive has not been confirmed. There should be no exception. But that's why I was suggesting bringing this to VPP since this is obviously a controversial standpoint. Also, I have mentioned this many, many, MANY times before. I don't know any other examples that would be instances of unconfirmed terrorism. I'm only aware of some recent attacks in Western countries such as the Dallas and Baton Rouge shootings, and the 2016 attack in Nice. If you do know any other examples that I keep missing, it would be very much appreciated if you removed them too.

I apologize for reverting the vandalism; I was unaware of that. But after some further examination, I noticed the edit also includes two examples of attacks where a terrorist angle is unconfirmed: the 2016 Home Hill stabbings (in which an Islamic fundamentalist motive has clearly not been confirmed, if the article is any indication) and an Essex attack that clearly says "suspected racially motivated attack", not confirmed. Parsley Man (talk) 04:15, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

You know, it's not that hard to introduce this to WP:VPP. It's like a talk page; all you have to do is start a new discussion on that article. Make sure the argument is pretty explanatory and you lay out all the examples of concern in the topic. I wish I could bring this to VPP myself, but I actually have a lot on my plate right now, and since you're also involved in this, I would appreciate it if you could do it for me. It's plain and simple, nothing complicated at all. Parsley Man (talk) 03:38, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

Please tell me where exactly such decisions were made in regards to the inclusion criteria, because I have not seen any such decision in any of the talk pages involved. And I am not going to say this again, I don't know any other examples that would be instances of unconfirmed terrorism. I'm only aware of some recent attacks in Western countries such as the Dallas and Baton Rouge shootings, and the 2016 attack in Nice. Please stop claiming I have an agenda and am only removing certain incidents on purpose, because those are actually just the only instances I am aware of. Parsley Man (talk) 23:53, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

• Criteria was decided over time, you can see some of the disputes and discussions that I can find here.

• Read the descriptions on these included recent incidents in both articles here. The bottom Islamic incidents are mostly suspected, yet are included in both articles. Beejsterb (talk) 00:07, 4 September 2016 (UTC)

In regards to the Jo Cox part, please read this section of the talk page. If you want to contribute, then by all means. Parsley Man (talk) 00:10, 4 September 2016 (UTC)

I know have the issue on WP:VPP if you want to contribute. Parsley Man (talk) 23:46, 4 September 2016 (UTC)

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I disagree. I believe the edits were constructive, as they meet the article's criteria and are suspected under-investigation terror incidents like every other incident on the page. Articles like Nice should also be re-included because it is a suspected terror attack, and has been labelled as such by many officials even though they are still not 100% sure. I am not saying these attacks should be labelled as terrorism, they are suspected terrorist attacks therefore they are included in this list. Beejsterb (talk) 05:11, 20 November 2016 (UTC)

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"do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted". I mean, I was the one who originally reverted you... Beejsterb (talk) 03:27, 18 December 2016 (UTC)

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