User talk:TheGreenEditor/Archive 2

Muhammad

May I ask why did you remove the image here [1]? --NeilN ^{talk ♦ contribs} 19:25, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

June 2008

Shia Islam

Please do not introduce incorrect information into articles, as you did to Shia Islam. Your edits appear to be vandalism and have been reverted. If you believe the information you added was correct, please cite references or sources or discuss the changes on the article's talk page before making them again. If you would like to experiment, use the sandbox. Thank you. Peter Deer (talk) 20:05, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Wa Alaikum As-Salaam.

The way you stated the sentence was (in abridged form) "Sunnis, unlike shias, follow Shia Imams." I reverted it to state that Shias follow Shia imams. My apologies if the warning template was a bit of a cold response, it was not intended as such but was out of inconsideration on my part, for which I am quite sorry. Peter Deer (talk) 22:50, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Commons

I've left you a note on Commons about one of your images being nominated for deletion. I thought it best to notify you here too. J Milburn (talk) 11:16, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Please do not delete content or templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Muhammad, without explaining the valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear constructive, and has been reverted. Please make use of the sandbox if you'd like to experiment with test edits. Thank you. Badger Drink (talk) 20:45, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

The issue has been discussed to death, consensus remains to keep the images. Please see this for further info. Thanks - --Badger Drink (talk) 21:18, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

And if you still think the images should be removed please gain consensus here: Talk:Muhammad/images. --NeilN ^{talk ♦ contribs} 21:23, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

New problems

Hi there! After a short-time absence, now youare come back with more problems. I am not appreciate your new map (Image:World religions.png) because its source wasn't good and it's come from a BLOG? Which violated Wikipedia's policies. Angelo De La Paz (talk) 12:24, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

• Please read: Wikipedia:Verifiability...All blogs were completely not accepted here.Angelo De La Paz (talk) 12:30, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

• And as I can see that the source [2] also noted that China, North Korea are not completely Atheist (but both Buddhism and Chinese religions) as in your map.Angelo De La Paz (talk) 12:33, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

• I thinkI will accept your map IF I will re-make for East Asian countries and you will re-make some Non-religious areas in Russia and Kazakhstan? Deal or no deal? I also think your map is needed but it must better. Deal or not?Angelo De La Paz (talk) 12:39, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

• Yes, be a good guy, that's great! You will fix some non-religious areas in Russia and Kazakhstan. I will fix East Asia. An ddon't forget change your map name because its old File history is really long.Angelo De La Paz (talk) 12:49, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

• I have just edited it. Please compare it with your citation given and don't forget to read all its notes. I think the map looks better now and I accepted the current version. Thank you.Angelo De La Paz (talk) 13:21, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

• I also have a suggestion for a potential improvement to the World Religions map- as the demarkations are not confined to national borders, Sikhism's majority footprint in the Punjab region of India should also be included, with both a larger geographical footprint and larger population than those of Israel and Judaism.Confusername (talk) 21:07, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Userboxes of Turkey

• You don't know anything about Turkey and Kemalism! Before AK party, there were no religious bigots in Turkey! But now they are in everywhere!!:S :@ They insult girls with skirts and bikinis!!! We don't want islamic dresses in universities, state buildings etc. Mustafa Kemal Atatürk is the founder and first president of Turkey and his reforms are part of enlightenment movements of Republic of Turkey! We don't want to become Saudi Arabia, Iran or Bangladesh!! We are part of Europe not Middle East. Secularism is the fundamental article of constitution of Turkey! Don't put your nose into our political circumstances again! It is no concern of yours!!!!!! Izmir lee (talk) 13:43, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

• Supporting secularism doesn't mean being irreligious! I'm a muslim too but i don't want people to use Islam for their political agendas! Please go and take care of Bangladesh not Turkey! Izmir lee (talk) 13:57, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

• Headscarf is allowed in Turkey. It's only banned in universities and state buildings. Ak party is highly against Kemalism and secularism!! You have to give up all the things about AKP!! It is no concern of yours!! Because you are not a citizen of Turkey! Izmir lee (talk) 15:05, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

• Talking talking talking... You are talking for nothing because you can't stop AKP to be closed down! Turkey is a secular republic and it will never end! If Constitutional Court of Turkey won't close it, our armed forces will close it by their style!!.. Izmir lee (talk) 17:26, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

• Sorry, i can't watch that video because of AKP! They banned YouTube like they banned all porn and erotic web sites! Is it fredom?? I'm asking?!? Izmir lee (talk) 17:51, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

• It is an excuse for banning erotic videos on YouTube! They hate Atatürk like you said. So why they want to protect Atatürk? Ridiculous! Isn't it?? Izmir lee (talk) 18:08, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

• And Turkey is a secular republic and there are lots of non-muslim Turkish citizens! Maybe they want to watch porn but they can't!! It is not fredom! Izmir lee (talk) 18:10, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

• When the AK Party gets the ban, a new election will be held and a Kemalist, Secular, Nationalist, Republican and non-Islamist party will run Turkey. You can look former islamist parties in Turkey which were banned; National Salvation Party, Welfare Party and Virtue Party. And now it's AKP's turn. :D No party can change the strong secularism and Kemalism in Turkey. We combined Islam and Western world together. Therefore Turkey is a European state. This is the difference between Turkey and other muslim countries but the AKP wanted to turn us into Saudi Arabia! And no political crisis will be held. Because not only the AKP will ban, its MPs will ban too. Tayyip Erdoğan and the others can't join or found another political party for 5 years. Abdullah Gül will also lose his presidency seat :D Our armed forces is the guarantor of secularism and Kemalism in Turkey. It's an article in Constitution of Turkey. Izmir lee (talk) 13:40, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

• Of course secularism is the most important thing in Turkey! Otherwise women will sit in their homes and only men will work and this will cause a bad economy. If AKP would replace the secular republic with Sharia, we couldn't join to the EU and our economy would worse than now. Because we haven't got too much petroleum like middle eastern countries. Izmir lee (talk) 14:05, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

• Banning the AKP isn't an obstacle to joining to the EU. Because Italy banned Fascist parties, Germany banned Nazist parties and Russia banned Leninist parties before. Turkey banned islamist parties before too and it will do it again! And the AKP didn't start the negotiations with EU. It started in 1960's! And you said the AKP is the only party which wants to join to the EU but this is not true. The AKP is deceiving the people! Joining to the EU isn't its goal. It wants to bring Sharia to Turkey! But it will never be achieved! Izmir lee (talk) 14:32, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

• The biggest problem is you think secularists are irreligious! We are muslim and we believe in God too but we don't want islam in politics! And you have to know that Atatürk was a muslim too! You say he is a Jew but it's a slander. He ordered to translate Kur'an into Turkish in early years of the republic. Before that most of Turks didn't know everything about Kur'an because they didn't know Arabic language. Izmir lee (talk) 14:55, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

CfD nomination of Category:Wikipedians who support the headscarf in Turkey

I have nominated Category:Wikipedians who support the headscarf in Turkey (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at the discussion page. Thank you. --Snigbrook ^(talk) 00:58, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

I've fixed it

I've forgotten to read your citation given about Muslim areas in central Kazakhstan and now I've just fixed it but the Western areas of Kazakhstan are still non-religious (near Caspian Sea). I've also fix some non-religious areas of Europe to Christian (by its signs of C=Christianity and E=Eastern Orthodox). I think the map is OK now! Angelo De La Paz (talk) 15:17, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Barnstar for you then

Hey there I will award you for a barnstar since you haven't been given many. I too am a Muslim, there are not many here and I just wanted to say hi and spread the peace brother. Here is your barnstar you deserve it.

		The Society Barnstar
		I, Lord of Moria, hereby award you this barnstar for your creative map making skills and contributions to religious societies and populations in terms of cartography. Lord of Moria Talk Contribs 21:56, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

		The Islamic Barnstar
		I, Lord of Moria, hereby award you the Islamic barnstar for your work on Islalmic related articles and maps. (And also for being a proud Muslim!) Lord of Moria Talk Contribs 21:56, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

WOW! Thanks a Lot! I never would have expected barnstars like these! I have worked hard creating mainly maps and demographics for Wikipedia which I thought wasn't really special, but wow thanks a lot! And Islamic Barnstar, do I really deserve that? I mean I have contributed in some articles of Islam, but not significantly, but hey this is such a great award of which you have given me, I really appreciate it, Thank you very much!

Image:Christian distribution.png

File:Christian distribution.png

• Could you change Cyprus' colour in the map? Not 100% of Cyprus are Christian. Because Turkish Cypriots are muslim. Thanks! Izmir lee (talk) 14:43, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Helal Uddin Abbas

The article Helal Uddin Abbas has been speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This was done because the article seemed to be about a real person, organization (band, club, company, etc.), or web content, but it did not indicate how or why the subject is notable, that is, why an article about that subject should be included in Wikipedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not indicate the notability of the subject may be deleted at any time. If you can indicate why the subject is really notable, you are free to re-create the article, making sure to cite any verifiable sources.

Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, and for specific types of articles, you may want to check out our criteria for biographies, for web sites, for musicians, or for companies. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. NawlinWiki (talk) 21:11, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

• It looks like he's only held minor and local offices. Also, there aren't any sources showing his notability, see WP:V and WP:BIO. NawlinWiki (talk) 21:16, 7 July 2008 (UTC) OK, sorry, you have one source, but I still don't see how this makes Mr. Abbas notable per WP:BIO. It still says he's a local activist, politician, and social worker. Everybody in "British Bangladeshi Who's Who" isn't automatically notable for that reason. There are hundreds of Who's Who publications; not everyone in them is notable. NawlinWiki (talk) 21:19, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
  • You wrote "he is currently the leading politicians in the borough". Again, there are thousands and thousands of local leaders. Has Mr. Abbas been recognized as a notable figure by any reliable source, such as a newspaper article, other than the Who's Who publication? NawlinWiki (talk) 21:25, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
    • Right. Show me the "significant press coverage" (Who's Who isn't the press), and I'll reconsider. NawlinWiki (talk) 21:26, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

List of British Bangladeshis

A tag has been placed on List of British Bangladeshis, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a very short article providing no content to the reader. Please note that external links, "See also" section, book reference, category tag, template tag, interwiki link, rephrasing of the title, or an attempt to contact the subject of the article don't count as content. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content.

Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself. If you plan to expand the article, you can request that administrators wait a while for you to add contextual material. To do this, affix the template {{hangon}} to the page and state your intention on the article's talk page. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. —Latischolar^talk_{contributions} 21:36, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

• I'll remove the speedy deletion tag myself as soon as the page has something. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Latischolar (talk • contribs) 21:43, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Re: Image

Sorry for the belated response. I had to stay away from serious editing WP for some time.

The problem with Fair use images is that, the criteria changes very often. So, even though the rationale was fine at the time the image was used, perhaps at a later time the rationale criteria changed. As a result, a bot probably tagged the image, and it got deleted.

So, better keep the image on your watchlist. --Ragib (talk) 18:00, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Re: British Bangladeshi

I promise to check tomorrow. Right now I'm a bit pressed against time (have been neglecting my own GA nominee for weeks). A quick look tells me that the article has become a formidable piece. There still are a few problems with sourcing (like the arrival of the first Bangladeshi to Brick Lane isn't sourced yet). But, on the whole... a great job. Wow!

I'll try to fix the WP:MOS issues myself (see, I'd prefer to do the easy bit... hahaha). And, I promise to be there to take this through GA. As for FA, seriously, the new quality standards has made it much more difficult. So, may be, you'll need to improve it to a formidable status before going for that (and, ideally, a few peer reviews). Cheers. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 20:00, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your brilliant work on this article. I think, right now it is close to a GA standard. Why don't you nominate the article fo a peer review? That should generate some good suggestions and help identify weaknesses of the article, if any. Arman ^(Talk) 03:41, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

I have not reviewed an article for GA status in almost a year, nor contributed to the GA process since then, or even edited Wikipedia until very recently. There are far better candidates than me to review this article for you right now. Homestarmy (talk) 23:55, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Religion in the United Kingdom

Thanks for adding the 'Religions by ethnic group' table to this article. It's certainly a useful addition, but I wonder whether it is wise to flags to identify ethnic groups. There isn't a complete correspondence between ethnicity and political boundaries, and this has the potential to stir up passions amongst nationalists of all descriptions without adding any extra information. Duncan Keith (talk) 15:07, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Request for rename

Hi Moshin. Because I'm not a bureaucrat, I can't fulfil requests, but only comment on them. A bureaucrat should see to your request soon. :) Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 13:09, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Re: British Bangladeshi

I have commented on the article talk page. Take a look. I hope I have been useful.

By the way, that "noeditsection" code on this page is making it difficult to post to your talk page. If that was not your intention, may be you'd like to consider removing it. If you didn't have that code, I could've made this comment in the appropriate section.

Cheers. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 16:30, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations, I've just looked at the page, and it looks great. Good work! Ask for a peer review, and may be we can go for a GA/FA drive soon. --Ragib (talk) 22:42, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll get on it right away. Moshin 23:25, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Errr... you seem to have removed the GA template and replaced it with an FA nomination. Trust me, it will be extremely difficult to get through the FA process without completing the earlier rounds - a peer review, a GA nomination, (and, if it goes through) a round of copyedit and, then, an FA nomination. But, well, articles have gone directly to FA before, and passed, too. So, good luck there.

By the way, I have removed that noeditsection code from this talkpage. It was really troublesome. But, of course, you can easily put it back. No harm done. I hope you don't mind. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 17:48, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

I'm getting there. A little short on time these days, and hardly able to work on the articles I was developing. I know that all articles are our articles collectively, and I promise to upholde that spirit. All I ask is a little more time. Thanks. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 14:45, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Yeah. Okay. Alright. Thake it GAN, yahoooooooo. There would probably be a few comments by GA reviewer, but I am sure those wouldn't pose a major problem. Just two observations - there's virtually nothing on the community's participation in the Bangladesh Liberation War (surely it was not deliberate), and the citations are not in agreement with citation guidelines. The former would probably only be noticed by people who know the history of the country of origin or the community, but the latter would probably be noticed by any and every reviewer. Cheers. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 05:17, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

You got it absolutely right. Now wait for a reviewer to come around and do a review (put the article on you watchlist by clicking the watch tab). As soon as that happens, you'd know what to do from the comments of the reviewer. I am not qualified enough to do a review yet, and since I have participated in the article it'd be unwise for me to try now. Patience will win the day for you, surely. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 15:24, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Barnstars please

Can I please get a barnstar for being kind? I've never recieved one and since I gave you 2 (which you deserved!) can I please get one? Lord of Moria _Talk ^Contribs 14:45, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for the award. You have made my day. Lord of Moria _Talk ^Contribs 15:04, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Re: Signature

Go to the preference page (the link is on the upper right hand corner of you Wikipedia page coming right after the "M Miah" link and "my talk" link). There you'll see a signature window coming just before the language window. Put the formatting codes for your signature into that window (sans the timestamp, which is the date and time showing after your signature). If you are unsure what kind of a format you want, blatantly steal codes from a signature that you like (there are plenty good signatures around). Test your new signature at Wikipedia:Sandbox, it's the page everybody uses for experiments. Try not to make your signature too heavy, and avoid using images of any kind. For more check Wikipedia:Signatures (and if you are still unsure check out Wikipedia:SIGHELP).

I am not Kabir from anywhere. I am Aditya from the Wikipedia (you also can get me at Wikitravel, the uncyclopedia and blogspot). Are involved with Bangla Cricket then? If you are, may be you'd like take a look at the Bangladeshi national cricket captains articles. This list was demoted from a featured status because it was not updated. With appropriate updates you can help taking it back to a featured status again. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 14:37, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

GA Review for British Bangladeshi

Hi M: honestly this is a large article and I lack the time and subject matter expertise to do a complete GA review of this artcile. But don't you worry, since this article is now listed for review, sooner or later it will get reviewed. One point though: I tried to verify the numbers in the table at the demographics section - but couldn't do it easily. Is it possible to give more direct references for these numbers? Arman ^(Talk) 05:59, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Disputed non-free use rationale for Image:Brick lane wallpaper.jpg

Thank you for uploading Image:Brick lane wallpaper.jpg. However, there is a concern that the rationale provided for using this image on Wikipedia may not meet the criteria required by Wikipedia:Non-free content. This can be corrected by going to the image description page and add or clarify the reason why the image qualifies under this policy. Adding and completing one of the templates available from Wikipedia:Non-free use rationale guideline is an easy way to ensure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy. Please be aware that a non-free use rationale is not the same as an image copyright tag; descriptions for images used under the non-free content policy require both a copyright tag and a non-free use rationale.

If it is determined that the image does not qualify under the non-free content policy, it might be deleted by an administrator within a few days in accordance with our criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions, please ask them at the media copyright questions page. Thank you. J Milburn (talk) 12:09, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

I do not deny that the film is significant in terms of it being about Bangladeshis in the UK, and I think that a discussion of the film and the book would add significantly to the article. However, the image is not really needed, and adds nothing to the article. Non-free media should only be used if they add significantly to the article and if their use is absolutely necessary for the reader to understand the prose/the subject of the article. J Milburn (talk) 17:40, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Not really- an explanation of the film's success or a link to an article on the film would achieve just as much. Promotional images from films should rarely be used outside of the article on the film, and even then, very sparingly. J Milburn (talk) 17:54, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

I'm not under any illusion that the image is there to advertise the film. The image is simply not required- what does it add to the article? The prose discusses the film, but that does not mean that it is ok to have a non-free image. Non-free images should be used very sparingly, when they are unavoidable. This one is decoration. Looking at the image does not tell you anything about the film and there isn't even that much prose about it. If you like, I can ask for a third opinion, but I can save us both time and tell you that they will agree with me. Please take a look at our guidelines on non-free content and specifically please review our non-free content criteria. J Milburn (talk) 21:54, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thank you so much for your kind words. Possibly I could do it in a green, it wouldn't be too difficult (greenish black instead of bluish black)? --Enzuru 22:20, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Hijab

Hi! I saw that you added some extra information without consensus in Turkey section of Hijab. I think it is not nesecerry and not neutral. Because serveys like that are made by islamists and they don't show the truth. When other users see, they will remove it immediatelly. Also i don't understand why did you remove house of the virgin mary from the article Turkey. Because it is very important shrine for both muslims and christians and 3 Popes visited it in the past and declared it a holy place. But i have to say that i like your contribs in Template:Islam. New colour is fantastic! --Լσκυм ^Ħί! 13:15, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

British Bangladeshi

		The Barnstar of Diligence
		I was waiting to give you an award after British Bangladeshi turned a GA. But, I can't wait anymore. You have been an exemplary good editor who overcame all shortcomings by diligence and faith. Your undying belief in yourself and the Wikipedia has also taught me a lot. Thanks for being here, and for extending a hand in friendship. Aditya(talk • contribs) 03:09, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

I have reviewed the article and there are just a few minor issues to sort out. Regards, MSGJ (talk) 21:42, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Hallelujah! There's the GA review now. It seems the review has some work cutout for you, especially in rewriting sentences to make the article shorter (that's highly possible). Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 04:00, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

As I tried to make clear on the review, article length is not on the criteria for GA status so that can be addressed later. However it is very very long! Took me ages to read it all ;) MSGJ (talk) 13:53, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

		The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
		Not fair! I was away while you achieved your first goal, a GA. Anyways, I still get to post a barnstar. Thanks lord. (Now for the FA drive, I guess. When do want to start?) Aditya(talk • contribs) 11:41, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Real life is easing up a bit. I may be able to lend a hand in copyediting soon (i'll also be shopping for help). Give me a week or two (and, may be you want to stay from the article for the time, and come back later to check if things are right). I'd sat mid-September would be a right time to go for FA. Say what? Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 12:10, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Bangladesh. :) Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 03:01, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Help

Hi there, I got your message about merging articles. I can understand where your coming from. I primarily set up wrote the article because I didn't agree with the population estimates given in the article even the ONS ones. Any suggestions?

One very important point to note the ONS do not record birthrates for individual ethnic groups, thus any figures they provide on population should be treated with great caution! ONS also have problems getting acurate ethnicity data especially from local government. They made similar projections for the 2001 census which proved to be highly inacurate. I obviously though have no issues with the 2001 census figures. I will continue to search for authoritive sources on the birthrates of British Bangladeshis, I read in a journal recently it was 13 per 1000 but am trying to remember journal's name. If for the sake of argument the ONS figures are broadly correct, the 2005 figure indicates a circa 15% increase on 2001, but the 2008 figure you quote only 3 years later represents a much higher % increase which is unexplained. Perhaps you could flag your population stats as disputed. I like the rest of your article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ethnic demographics (talk • contribs) 15:37, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Ethnic demographics 20:15 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.229.231.113 (talk) 19:16, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

British Bengali

As salamualaykum,

Just wanted to commend you, as you have exerted much effort in that particular article, and others. Good work. Scythian1 (talk) 01:25, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

User is being bullied

I need your opinion on something. I even consider you as a friend that is why I need advice. I have the message to two admins but I want to hear your opinion on this because one user is being bullied out of Wikipedia, and I cannot stand for someone particularly him with his constructive edits to be forced to leave. I would like you to respond please, I feel such pity towards a good contributor. This is what I left with the admins:

"I have been monitoring the telescope article talkpage and clearly user: InternetHero feels distressed by the continuous edit warring that is happening in the article. The issue is the invention of the telescope and its history. Other articles state that Arab scientists created the telescope. I have looked and discussed and researched the issue and I too feel insulted when the debate is discussed. However I have seen that some users have reverted many of the above users edit even when he provided citations. I think this is the most important issue. Relevant information is not being added and clearly violates WP:POV. I have sources to support that above users statements with citations. user:DigitalC and user:Deamon138 are the ones doing so.

Furthermore there is no mention on the History of the telescope within the article, just a consensus on European involvement only whereas the Timeline of the Telescope clearly states Egyption, Islamic and Italian scienctists involvement among a few others. I will the raising the issue with another admin also." Lord of Moria (Avicenna) _Talk ^Contribs 20:23, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

You don't need to be worried to much about the telscope article, dude. If you have the time, can you help me at the Norse colonization of the Americas article? InternetHero (talk) 17:08, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

I agree that some mention of antiquity HAS to be added. The history of the telescope article covers them only slightly so if we improve the article there, we can add a few sentences on the telescope article. InternetHero (talk) 18:03, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Image:Moudud.jpg listed for deletion

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Possibly unfree Image:Emails.png

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Image:GDP_PPP_per_capita_IMF.png

Hello. Estonia's colour is a wrong one in this map: [3] . I hope you can fix it. Thanks! 130.232.133.140 (talk) 16:04, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Edit summary

Hello. Please don't forget to provide an edit summary, which wasn't included with your recent edit to Talk:Islam in Spain. Thank you. The Ogre (talk) 12:28, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

re: Malaysia edits

It might not have been your intention, but your recent edit removed content from Malaysia. When removing text, please specify a reason in the edit summary and discuss edits that are likely to be controversial on the article's talk page. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the text has been restored, as you can see from the page history. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia, and if you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you would like to challenge the source, then please add next to content/source with, Thank you. Mohsin (talk) 12:14, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

That is a ridiculous template to use. I used the edit summary. __earth ^(Talk) 12:22, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Your reason was not really reasonable to remove that information. The information is correct, and it was backed up by sources. If you think the sources are not reliable then please next to the source add unreliable source?. Please do not remove the information without good reasoning. Mohsin (talk) 12:29, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

I brought the issue to the talk page of the article. And I've already provided the reason in the edit summary. __earth ^(Talk) 12:37, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Spitalfields & Bangla Town

Hi, I moved your changes down into the text, as Spitalfields only forms a part of the council ward with that name. There doesn't tend to be an identity (in wikipedia) between districts and council wards - since the latter get reorganised about every 10-12 years in order to keep a rough equivalence between the residents in each ward. Hope that doesn't cause too many problems. cheers Kbthompson (talk) 18:02, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Alright then, sounds reasonable. Tangomaan (talk) 16:14, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Salman Khan

Please do not revert other editors' edits as you did on the above-mentioned article. First off, one little controversy does not need four references, two of which, in this case, carry the same text. Also, two of these sources are unreliable. For that please read WP:RS.

Secondly, you have no authority to decide and determine what needs and what needs not a copyedit. Your version consisted some grammar mistakes, was incohorent, and much of the text read like a blog (They celebrated this event with their families and friend ... every year ... whom currently are requested..?) Additionally, this fatwa is very similar to the one mentioned in the first paragraph of this section; much detail is not needed. Wikipedia is an ongoing project, saying that something does not need a copyedit is ridiculous, considering you are not the owner of this site and there will always be better editors than you and me.

Checking the revisions, I see you fully reverted my edits, including my additions in other places, and my removal of a spam link. It clearly shows that you just full reverted to your own version, with no consideration or observation. It is considered vandalism.

In order to prevent an edit war, I ask you, if you think something of what was removed by me should be kept (basically unnecessary and over-the-top detail), please refer to the article talk page and we'll discuss it there. Shahid • ^Talk2me 23:14, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Muslim majority countries

it would be nicer to discuss such big changes? changing a whole column of tables is a pretty big change. the edit (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Muslim_majority_countries&diff=240676674&oldid=240279597) doesn't even cite new sources? Lihaas (talk) 12:47, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Please read my opinion here [4]. Thanks! 14:18, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Re: British Bangladeshi

Replied. → AA ^(talk) — 00:03, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Image:Christian_distribution_map.png

Can you be a little more specific about the copyright of this image? If you created the map, did you intend to release it on Wikipedia? Where did this other person get the image from? Thanks for helping clear things up. Shell ^babelfish 05:40, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Ah, didn't see the other one at Commons - thanks for the heads up. I've gone ahead and deleted the one here. I think he may have actually replaced your original image in the article with the one he uploaded; definitely very odd. Thanks for taking the time to help me figure it out. Shell ^babelfish 14:55, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Salaam!

Thank you, Eid Mubarak to you too! --Enzuru 04:42, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Turkey

I know my country, its cities, its history, its society and its structure A MILLION TIMES MORE than you shall ever know. Ayça Leovinus (talk) 14:22, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

I believe regardless of where you come from in the world, everyone has knowledge, one should have the right to edit any article, the whole point is for one and only Wikipedia, providing information in a suitable and neutral way. Whatever your nationality. Mohsin (talk) 14:29, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

Just keep the "nice guy" literature for yourself, I'm perfectly aware of what you're trying to do. I only advise you to stick to the topics that you know best, otherwise you'll see that some "unpleasant details" will be added to your favourite topics with references, and I'll make sure you won't be able to remove them. Ayça Leovinus (talk) 15:29, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

I make no harm in my edits, I have stated clearly I am providing information in the a Neutral point of view. Plus my edits are not even significant to your revision. I have shortened it because the previous looks unproffesional for an FA article, heaps loads of info can be contributed to other sub articles, which need development. And I do not mind if you edit other articles in Wikipedia, it is open and free for anyone to edit, Go Ahead (Gonculen).Mohsin (talk) 16:14, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Turkey. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. If necessary, pursue dispute resolution. --Turkish Flame ^☎ 17:28, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Truth in Wiki

Please keep an eye on articles: Erich Feigl, Bitlis, Van, Kars, Erzurum, Armenia-Turkey Relations, and Van Resistence. Truth needs vigorous defense on these pages and many others unfortunately. Regards.--Murat (talk) 02:05, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Your recent edits

Please refrain from making test edits in Wikipedia articles, such as those you made to User talk:Mister Alcohol, even if your ultimate intention is to fix them. Such edits appear to be vandalism and have been reverted. If you would like to experiment again, please use the sandbox. Thank you. -- MISTER ALCOHOL ^{T C} 06:46, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Hello

• What are you trying to justify?? To be %98 of the Turkish people doesn't mean everyone of us is a Muslim. I know lots of atheist people around me, although I'm a muslim. Your version is not suitable for Turkey. Please do not try to meddle in Turkey's positions/politics. You are a Bangladesh citizen I think; have you ever visited Turkey? --♪♫Atakan^0652|mesaj 14:58, 13 October 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Atakan0652 (talk • contribs)

Turkey

I just want to be clear with you on the Turkey issue. You are going out of your way to antagonize the Shup socks. Turkey, as an article, is a lost cause. It changes radically every five minutes. I would hold it up as a prime example for why people don't take Wikipedia seriously. Hiberniantears (talk) 18:10, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

3RR

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Turkey. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. If necessary, pursue dispute resolution.

Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets

Just a quick note - please don't remove cases from the list by simply removing their entry on the page, particularly those with which you are involved. Cases, when dealt with, will be marked for archiving and subsequently archived by a bot in due course. _Gb^T/c 19:43, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Turkish vote on Religion

I'm confused is the vote still on? THe discussion says the voting has frozen but what do I do? You contacted me a while back. I'll try and help as much I can. Lord of Moria _Talk ^Contribs 21:54, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Block and Usernames

I would say that your user names are a bit misleading, but you are not using them as socks. They do, after all, redirect to your page, which is quite the opposite of a sock - I would suggest, however, that you list them all clearly on your primary user page. That is to say "Hi, I'm Tangomaan, aka (List of all other User Names you have)."

You were blocked for continuing to edit war on the Turkey page after I warned you. It was a short block, but if the edit war continues I will increase block times incrementally. I blocked the Shup socks as well. Right now you two are pretty much the only one's editing that article, and you are both making a complete mess of it. This is probably the reason why you two are the only ones editing it. I would advise you to maybe take a few days away from the Turkey article, just as I would advise Shup to do the same (and I have no doubt he is reading this). While Shup is obviously a head-case, you need to understand that your attempts to force what is actually fairly POV information into a politically charged article is counter-productive.

He's a nationalist. You're some kind of religious fundamentalist. That's fine, but you need to recognize that this makes you both subjective editors. Your editing on Wikipedia needs to be an intellectual exercise in objectivity, rather than a battlefield in whatever propaganda war you find yourself personally invested. The role of Religion and political secularism in Turkey will not be defined or decided by the Wikipedia article on Turkey. Trust me on this. If you introduce something to the article that is NPOV and well cited, then it is my duty to police the article and ensure that it is not removed for malicious reasons. However, to date you have been editing in an excessively pointy fashion that is only serving to fire up the lunatics who don't share your vision. Canvassing for votes, and constantly reverting the article is not a valuable use of your time.

In fact, I would be more than happy to help you NPOV whatever language you are trying to get into the article, but you need to understand that I am not going to vote or endorse anything. My role as an administrator is not to enforce any particular point of view. Hiberniantears (talk) 18:25, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

How about this: In three sentences or less, tell me what the core message is that your are trying to introduce to the article. Once I have that, I can help you distill it to something that can be introduced without controversy to the article. Hiberniantears (talk) 18:38, 15 October 2008 (UTC)