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DYK for Cross Temple, Fangshan

On 1 January 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Cross Temple, Fangshan, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Cross Temple in Fangshan, Beijing, is the only surviving Nestorian Christian site in China? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Cross Temple, Fangshan. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Cross Temple, Fangshan), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

RoySmith (talk) 00:02, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Writer's Barnstar
	Congratulations for promoting Cross Temple, Fangshan to the main page! You do an excellent work in this under-represented area of Wikipedia. Morogris (✉ • ✎) 03:26, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Thank you, @Morogris! And happy new year to you too. Cheers, --The Lonely Pather (talk) 07:26, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Happy New Year, TheLonelyPather!

Happy New Year!

TheLonelyPather,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
Abishe (talk) 14:53, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

   Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year fireworks}} to user talk pages.

Abishe (talk) 14:53, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Thanks! Not sure if we have ever crossed paths, but happy new year to you too. Cheers, --The Lonely Pather (talk) 14:54, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Can we rescue anything?

So the course is finished, students are not going to fix anything more, yet I feel a bit sad that User:Bai0926/Economic inequality in China, Draft:Anti-Taiwan independence sentiment and Draft:U.S. assistance defend Taiwan remain unpublished. Do you think anything here can be rescued, perhaps with some gratuitous downsizing to a stub or such? _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:01, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

Hey Professor @Piotrus and happy Christmas, new year, and etc.!

1. "Economic inequality in China" can be trimmed down, tidied and published as a start-class. It provides a good start on a serious topic that is certainly notable.
2. I don't think "Anti-Taiwan independence sentiment" is worth of an individual article. I would trim it down and put it in Taiwan_independence_movement#Opposition_to_independence. Note that the section I linked is without citation, so some source (albeit POV and primary) is better than no source.
3. At this point I think "U.S. assistance defend Taiwan" could be published as a separate article titled "U.S. assistance in Taiwan defense"... or even just "U.S. defense of Taiwan", but I am not very sure about its future.

These are just some thoughts gathered in 10 minutes. Cheers, --The Lonely Pather (talk) 09:30, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

2024

Die Zeit, die Tag und Jahre macht

Happy New Year

2024

Same location pictured as 2019. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:09, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

On the Main page: the person who made the pictured festival possible - Congratulations to a new GA! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:54, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

Thank you very much, Gerda! Your encouragement is greatly appreciated. Cheers, --The Lonely Pather (talk) 00:57, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

story · music · places

Thank you! - Yesterday was a friend's birthday, with related music. - I'm on vacation - see places. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:45, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

GA Notice

GA Notice
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Your GA nomination of Cross Temple, Fangshan

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Your GA nomination of Cross Temple, Fangshan

The article Cross Temple, Fangshan you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Cross Temple, Fangshan for comments about the article, and Talk:Cross Temple, Fangshan/GA1 for the nomination. Well done! If the article has never appeared on the Main Page as a "Did you know" item, and has not appeared within the last year either as "Today's featured article", or as a bold link under "In the news" or in the "On this day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear at DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On this day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Remsense -- Remsense (talk) 23:44, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

DYK for All Saints Church, Shanghai

On 8 January 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article All Saints Church, Shanghai, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Shen Zigao, the first Anglican bishop of Chinese descent, was consecrated at All Saints Church, Shanghai, in 1934? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/All Saints Church, Shanghai. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, All Saints Church, Shanghai), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

WaggersTALK 00:02, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Chen Xiaocui

The article Chen Xiaocui you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Chen Xiaocui for comments about the article, and Talk:Chen Xiaocui/GA1 for the nomination. Well done! If the article has never appeared on the Main Page as a "Did you know" item, and has not appeared within the last year either as "Today's featured article", or as a bold link under "In the news" or in the "On this day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear at DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On this day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of GnocchiFan -- GnocchiFan (talk) 00:01, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

NPP Awards for 2023

		The New Page Patroller's Barnstar
		For over 100 article reviews during 2023. Well done! Keep up the good work and thank you! Dr vulpes (Talk) 02:39, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

re: Luo Wenzao

Looks good but I don't know if I'll have time for any detailed read :( Nice work, of course! _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 04:13, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

No worries! It’s all right. Cheers, --The Lonely Pather (talk) 08:42, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

An essay for your students

@Piotrus, hope all is well. After I looked at your students' translations from the Chinese Wikipedia, I wrote down a manual to help them. Please see  Courtesy link: User:TheLonelyPather/Essays/Guide for a translator. This is not Chinese-specific, but intended to help all translators. Feel free to share it with your students, and don't hesitate to leave feedback if you think something is missing.

I intend to write another essay on the faults of the Chinese Wikipedia and what to look out for, but that'll come later. Cheers, --The Lonely Pather (talk) 18:44, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

Awesome, I'll look at it shortly! _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 14:34, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

I've fixed a stray character. Based on my repeated advice to students, I'd suggest adding the following three topics:

• ensure that your references are properly formatted using citation templates. They should have information on the author name, date of publication, publisher, title and URL if the source is online. If the original title is not English, provide both the original title and a translation of it. For books, provide a narrow page range for the soruce cited.
• proofread your article using free services such as Grammarly and AI tools
• if the original article you are translating links to other untranslated articles, link them from your translated article using Template:Interlanguage_link

_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 12:52, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

Swinging by here...

If you may, do consider adding a topic about attribution. When working on drafts over at AfC, sometimes we find translated drafts without proper attribution and it takes up more than necessary amount of time of the reviewers to determine if it is a copyright issue. (See also Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Taiwan_1000#Attributing translations).

On romanisation, do consider as well if there is a common English name about the subject instead of just romanising the name from the original language. i.e. Joker Xue vs Xue Zhiqian. This easier to search for if the subject is popular. For the more obscure titles, i.e. 京师生春诗意图*, it will definitely take a longer time to search for an English common name. If you are not a subject matter expert, it can be forgiven if you choose to romanise from the original language instead.

* I bring this specific example out because it is a relatively lesser known, or even an obscure work in the English speaking world, and there is a draft with a okay-ish attempt at translating the title: Draft:A scroll of poems about spring in the capital. (And it took me a couple of hours to find something online, (sic) "Bird's eye view of the capital", the time was spent rather unwisely which is otherwise if one's obsessed with the topic, even just for that two hours, or is a subject matter expert and knows what to look for.) – robertsky (talk) 15:14, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

@Piotrus @Robertsky Thank both of you for your advice. I have expanded the essay and incorporated these ideas. Cheers, --The Lonely Pather (talk) 17:21, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

I forgot to mention 1) "connect your article to the translated one using the "add language links" button and 2) add categories (check categories in the original article and see if they have equivalents in English, if not, try to find the closest relevant parent category from that tree). The first is related to attribution. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 01:24, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

Thank you, added these too. If everything is all set, I think this guide would be a good thing to refer to your students, i.e. you could use it to show to them what is expected out of a translation homework, and what is missing from their translation. I imagine this is much better than you typing out your own explanations of policies over and over.

Also many thanks for the barnstar! Cheers, --The Lonely Pather (talk) 13:03, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

I've added it to User:Piotrus/Ideas for students and will add to other places. In case you haven't, you may want to browse the other translation guides I link from there, maybe there's something useful there too? _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:09, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

Autopatrolled granted

Hi TheLonelyPather, I just wanted to let you know that I have added the autopatrolled user right to your account. This means that pages you create will automatically be marked as 'reviewed', and no longer appear in the new pages feed. Autopatrolled is assigned to prolific creators of articles, where those articles do not require further review, and may have been requested on your behalf by someone else. It doesn't affect how you edit; it is used only to manage the workload of new page patrollers.

Since the articles you create will no longer be systematically reviewed by other editors, it is important that you maintain the high standard you have achieved so far in all your future creations. Please also try to remember to add relevant WikiProject templates, stub tags, categories, and incoming links to them, if you aren't already in the habit; user scripts such as Rater and StubSorter can help with this. As you have already shown that you have a strong grasp of Wikipedia's core content policies, you might also consider volunteering to become a new page patroller yourself, helping to uphold the project's standards and encourage other good faith article writers.

Feel free to leave me a message if you have any questions. Happy editing! – robertsky (talk) 14:46, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

Yippee! Cheers, --The Lonely Pather (talk) 15:58, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

The Chinese Barnstar

		The Chinese Barnstar
		Thank you for your edits related to Chinese topics. Please accept The Chinese Barnstar as a token of my appreciation.

_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:51, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Writer's Barnstar
	For all your work writing about Christianity in China. You are doing an excellent job fighting systemic bias. Scorpions1325 (talk) 08:39, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

Thank you, @Scorpions1325! I am not sure where we might have run into each other, but thanks again for the kind words. I will surely put "fighting systemic bias" on my résumé. (/s) Cheers, --The Lonely Pather (talk) 11:54, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

DYK for Louis Zhang Jiashu

On 28 January 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Louis Zhang Jiashu, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Louis Zhang Jiashu, a Catholic bishop of Shanghai who studied at Canterbury in 1911, received the archbishop of Canterbury, Michael Ramsey, in Shanghai in 1983? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Louis Zhang Jiashu. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Louis Zhang Jiashu), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

—Kusma (talk) 14:42, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

January 2024 NPP backlog drive – Points award

	The Working Wikipedian's Barnstar
	This award is given in recognition to TheLonelyPather for collecting at least 10 points during the January 2024 NPP backlog drive. Your contributions played a part in the 16,070 reviews completed during the drive. Thank you so much for taking part and contributing to help reduce the backlog! Hey man im josh (talk) 22:44, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

DYK for Tarcisio Martina

On 10 February 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Tarcisio Martina, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Tarcisio Martina, the representative of the Holy See in China, was sentenced to life imprisonment in 1951 over a plot to assassinate Mao Zedong? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Tarcisio Martina. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Tarcisio Martina), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

—Kusma (talk) 00:03, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

WikiCup 2024 February newsletter

The 2024 WikiCup is off to a flying start, with 135 participants. This is the largest number of participants we have seen since 2017.

Our current leader is newcomer Generalissima (submissions), who has one FA on John Littlejohn (preacher) and 10 GAs and 12 DYKs mostly on New Zealand coinage and Inuit figures. Here are some more noteworthy scorers:

• AirshipJungleman29 (submissions), with one FA on Hö'elün, two GAs on Mongolia-related articles, and two DYKs;
• Vami_IV (submissions), with one FA on Doom (2016 video game), one GA on Boundary Fire (2017), and 11 reviews;
• MaranoFan (submissions), with one FA on Holidays (Meghan Trainor song), a nine-article FT on 30 (album), and two DYKs;
• Skyshifter (submissions), with one FA on OneShot and one DYK;
• Sammi Brie (submissions), with five GAs and five DYKs on television and radio stations;
• voorts (submissions) and Elli (submissions), both with one FA and one DYK each.

As a reminder, competitors may submit work for the first round until 23:59 (UTC) on 27 February, and the second round starts 1 March. Remember that only the top 64 scoring competitors will make it through to the second round; currently, competitors need at least 15 points to progress. If you are concerned that your nomination will not receive the necessary reviews, and you hope to get it promoted before the end of the round, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. However, please remember to continue to offer reviews at GAN, FAC and all the other pages that require them to prevent any backlogs which could otherwise be caused by the Cup. As ever, questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup and the judges (Cwmhiraeth (talk · contribs), Epicgenius (talk · contribs), and Frostly (talk · contribs)) are reachable on their talk pages. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:58, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

DYK for Sacred Heart Cathedral, Kaifeng

On 21 February 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Sacred Heart Cathedral, Kaifeng, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that communist forces set up their headquarters at the Sacred Heart Cathedral (pictured) during the 1948 battle for Kaifeng in the Chinese Civil War? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Sacred Heart Cathedral, Kaifeng. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Sacred Heart Cathedral, Kaifeng), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

RoySmith (talk) 00:02, 21 February 2024 (UTC)

story · music · places

Thank you for another good one! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:52, 21 February 2024 (UTC)

You're very welcome! Also my choir sang Wie liegt die Stadt so wüst a bit ago. Powerful piece. Cheers, --The Lonely Pather (talk) 08:56, 21 February 2024 (UTC)

Praise your conductor! - We sang it in 1999, Belgians and Germans, in Brugge and Wiesbaden, to end a century of violence. Sad that it still fits. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:12, 21 February 2024 (UTC)

Yes, our conductor thoughtfully paired it with 'Oseh Shalom' by Elaine Broad Ginsberg, on the Holocaust Memorial Day. Heart-wrenching service. Cheers, --The Lonely Pather (talk) 09:16, 21 February 2024 (UTC)

I almost feel it, thank you! - Today's story celebrates a woman's birthday. She sat right in front of me when I took the picture at a lovely concert, celebrating her son's 60th. I thought she was 90 today, - no, 91 already. You can listen, starting at the piece he dedicated to her, Op. 1. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:48, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

more music and flowers on Rossini's rare birthday --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:00, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

WikiProject Asia/The 10,000 Challenge

Hi, thanks for your contributions! Feel free to put your articles up on the challenge! ♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:53, 21 February 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, @Dr. Blofeld, wow! I just put up a bunch of my contributions. I think I did everything right and I hope I did not mess up the page. Cheers, --The Lonely Pather (talk) 11:52, 21 February 2024 (UTC)

Understanding Infoboxes both documented and non documented.

Hello gooday sir! I have seen many article pages with undocumented or unknown parameters, according to this Template:Infobox3cols, this and this. Wikipedia tends to allow the use of unknown parameters to make the page more convenience. The Infobox artist and musician does not always work well when you tend to include chinese-name, Korea-name or Thai name, even when you added it with 'modules', It will shrink and sometimes result to coding errors with horrible results. So in this article Draft:Li Ziting, i even separated it into 3 Infoboxes to get a perfect result while also making it clear and understandable. Thanks. Thisasia (talk) 21:57, 21 February 2024 (UTC)

I understand where you're coming from, @Thisasia. I think Teresa Teng offers a good example of incorporating Chinese information using infoboxes. Personal opinion, but I think the Li Ziting draft's infoboxes take up too much space, the font size is too big, and it uses boldface throughout. I think if the page is better formatted, it will have a higher chance of passing AfC. Of course, this is my personal opinion. Cheers, --The Lonely Pather (talk) 22:23, 21 February 2024 (UTC)

Hello @TheLonelyPather, I have just fixed the issues you pointed out including removing of the big font-size, font-weight and margin of the two undocumented Infoboxes together, so the only difference is that it now has 2 Infoboxes while Teresa Teng has one Infobox. But is important to know that Teresa Teng's page has only one infobox Chinese-name, while Draft:Li Ziting has 3 Infoboxes-names including chinese, Thai and korea hence an undocumented parameters are needed to include all. Note that the first Infobox of the Draft:Li Ziting page is wiki documented Infobox-person, so it doesn't work properly together with an undocumented parameters even when you add 'modules' hence a separated Infobox is required. But if this is not enough I will still try my best and creat a new Infobox-person and see if I can possibly achieve one Infobox. What do you think? Thisasia (talk) 00:52, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

@Thisasia, thanks for your attempt. Let me be a bit technical here. If we look at the source code of "Teresa Teng", we see that it uses something like | module2 = {{Infobox Chinese ... to include an infobox for the Chinese name within the Infobox person. Maybe you can do the same for Li Ziting? You could have | module2 = {{Infobox Chinese ... , | module2 = {{Infobox Korean name ... . The Thai name can be put under the Infobox Chinese, surprisingly. Please have a closer look at Template:Infobox Chinese and Template: Infobox Korean name. In this way, you can take out all the names from the "musical career" box.

Now, for the "musical career" part, I suggest you have a look at Taylor Swift, which also has a "musical career" part using available templates and modules.

I am suggesting you to do so because this will utilise available templates to the maximum, so other editors will have an easier time to edit the page. But again, the content of your draft is the most important. Right now the prose is only a paragraph. Please consider adding more information, especially the information mentioned in the infoboxes. Let me reiterate that A good infobox summarises facts, instead of listing facts. Cheers, --The Lonely Pather (talk) 01:32, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

I have done as you said, and I will surely fortify this article with every information requires. Thisasia (talk) 02:41, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

@TheLonelyPather I have replaced all the unknown parameters, please do notify me if there is anything more to improve. Thanks for your time. Thisasia (talk) 03:15, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

Excellent. At least the infobox looks much better now–hope you can agree. I hope you expand the prose with sources that are WP:reliable and demonstrate WP:significant coverage. You may find WP:SINGER helpful in determining the notability of Li Ziting. Judging by the Chinese Wikipedia article zh:李紫婷, she could be notable by some of the awards she won, and her participation in Rocket Girls 101. Have a look at the Wikipedia articles of other members of Rocket Girls 101. That could be helpful too. Good luck and have fun. Cheers, --The Lonely Pather (talk) 08:37, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

@TheLonelyPather alright thanks very much for that, very much appreciated. Thisasia (talk) 08:50, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

A word of caution–don't use a direct translation of the Chinese Wiki article of Li Ziting in your English article! It's still badly sourced and formatted in many places ... Cheers, --The Lonely Pather (talk) 08:39, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

Noted, thanks. Thisasia (talk) 08:51, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

And another point: infobox is really not the centerpiece of an article. The prose is. An example: Ralph Vaughan Williams, a featured article about a composer, does not even have an infobox. A good infobox summarises facts, instead of listing facts. You can provide information of Li's names, ancestry, education, agency, record companies, etc. in the body of the article. Cheers, --The Lonely Pather (talk) 22:26, 21 February 2024 (UTC)

March 2024 GAN backlog drive

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WikiCup 2024 March newsletter

The first round of the 2024 WikiCup ended at 23:59 (UTC) on 27 February. Everyone with at least 30 points moved on to Round 2, the highest number of points required to advance to the second round since 2014. Due to a six-way tie for the 64th-place spot, 67 contestants have qualified for Round 2.

The following scorers in Round 1 all scored more than 300 points:

• Generalissima (submissions), who has 916 points mostly from one FA on John Littlejohn (preacher), 15 GAs, and 16 DYKs on a variety of topics including New Zealand coinage and Inuit figures, in addition to seven reviews
• Vami_IV (submissions), who has 790 points from two FAs on Felix M. Warburg House and Doom (2016 video game), two GAs, one DYK, and 11 reviews
• AirshipJungleman29 (submissions), who has 580 points from one FA on Hö'elün, two GAs on Mongolia-related articles, two DYKs, and five reviews
• Sammi Brie (submissions), who has 420 points mostly from nine GAs and seven DYKs on television and radio stations
• MaranoFan (submissions), who has 351 points from one FA on Holidays (Meghan Trainor song), a nine-article FT on 30 (album), and three DYKs
• Skyshifter (submissions), who has 345 points from one FA on OneShot, one DYK and two reviews

In this newsletter, the judges would like to pay a special tribute to Vami_IV (submissions), who unfortunately passed away this February. At the time of his death, he was the second-highest-scoring competitor. Outside the WikiCup, he had eight other featured articles, five A-class articles, eight other good articles, and two Four Awards. Vami also wrote an essay on completionism, a philosophy in which he deeply believed. If you can, please join us in honoring his memory by improving one of the articles on his to-do list.

Remember that any content promoted after 27 February but before the start of Round 2 can be claimed in Round 2. Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, feel free to review one of the nominations listed on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed. Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:41, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

DYK for He Tianzhang

On 1 March 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article He Tianzhang, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that although the Jesuit missionary He Tianzhang despised his "sad Chinese appearance", it allowed him to circumvent the Qing's ban on Christianity and enter China? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/He Tianzhang. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, He Tianzhang), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

♠PMC♠ (talk) 00:03, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

story · music · places

Thank you for another interesting bio! -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:38, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

... and for another one below! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:52, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

Rossini's Petite messe solennelle was premiered on 14 March 1864, - when I listen to the desolate Agnus Dei I think of Vami_IV. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:04, 14 March 2024 (UTC

I uploaded vacation pics (from back home), at least the first day, - and remember Aribert Reimann. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:23, 20 March 2024 (UTC)

Some days later, a calf in the mist and chocolate cake, and a story of collaboration --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:13, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

I listen to Bach's St John Passion today, - 300 years after it was first performed. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:23, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

Thank you. I listened to the first little part of it this morning–first time listening to this piece. Very much captivated. I wish you a Good Friday. Cheers, --The Lonely Pather (talk) 21:06, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

Thank you! - Two days later in time, Bach music for Easter! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:47, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

Happy Easter! The organist played the Toccata of BWV 540 after my Easter Mass. It is wonderful. Cheers, --The Lonely Pather (talk) 23:16, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

Liu Futong comment

Hi, you asked about where I got the birth and death years for Liu Futong. The death year is from the year Zhang Shicheng captured Anfeng and killed Liu. The birth year is from looking at Wikidata and Chinese Wikipedia, but I couldn’t find any English references for it. Should I still keep it?

P.S. I don’t know how to reply to comments on a draft. Lyn1644 (talk) 21:26, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Lyn1644! Neither Wikidata nor Chinese Wikipedia are WP:reliable sources, so I would suggest that you delete the birth year and simply put "d. 1363".

I also don't know how to reply to comments on a draft. You are always welcome to talk to me on this talk page. Cheers, --The Lonely Pather (talk) 21:31, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

I looked at your draft for a bit more. Have you thought about using {{cite book}} and {{sfn}}? Feel free to look at the source code of Sacred Heart Cathedral, Hohhot, to see how exactly it works (kinda like magic, I know). I am suggesting this so you can put up the full "Mote, Frederick; Twitchett, Denis (1988). The Cambridge History of China Volume 7 The Ming Dynasty, 1368-1644" citation at the end of the article, and only put in the page number in the footnotes. It saves time and therefore a bit of your precious life. Cheers, --The Lonely Pather (talk) 21:34, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll try to use that. I was copy-pasting the citations into the basic citation editor before and changing the page number, so thankfully it wasn't too hard. But your method looks cleaner and preserves the ISBN link.

How exactly do cite book and sfn work? I can't seem to figure it out. Thanks, Lyn1644 (talk) 23:51, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

Here's a step-by-step guide:

1. In your "References" section, create a subsection "Books" (or "Journals", or whatever you seem fit), and put the books you wish to cite in this format:

* {{cite book | ...}}
* {{cite book | ...}}
* {{cite book | ...}}

Make sure you fill out each citation correctly. You will only fill them out once under the "References" section.

2. In your "References" section, right above the "References" title (and before all the books you've listed), create a subsection "Citations" and simply put {{reflist}} below it.

3. If you wish to cite a book in your body paragraphs, use sfn like this:{{sfn|Author1 last name|Author2 last name|...(other last names)|year|page ranges}}.

For example, "Mote, Frederick; Twitchett, Denis (1988). The Cambridge History of China Volume 7 The Ming Dynasty, 1368-1644, Part I. Cambridge University Press. pp. 39-40" will be {{sfn|Mote|Twitchett|1988|pp=39–40}}

The associated footnote will appear naturally in your "Citations" subsection.

Cheers, --The Lonely Pather (talk) 01:33, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

This all requires typing code and using the source editor. Good luck! I consider it a necessary skill for any wiki editor. Cheers, --The Lonely Pather (talk) 01:34, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

Hello, I tried it out your method on an article and it worked. Thanks for the tip!

P.S. Is there a faster way to insert links to other Wikipedia articles? So far I've just been typing [[ ]] and inserting | when convenient. Lyn1644 (talk) 04:44, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

You're very welcome! For links to other Wikipedia articles, [[ ]] is the way to go. It is also good to read MOS:OVERLINK–you generally don't have to use a lot of links in each article. Cheers, --The Lonely Pather (talk) 08:19, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

Hi, I’m not quite sure how to request a move for Draft:Guo Zixing. Most of the move requests are simple name changes rather than replacing a redirect with another article. Do you know how to do it? Lyn1644 (talk) 17:55, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

Not so sure, never done it before. Please go to WP:Teahouse. Cheers, --The Lonely Pather (talk) 17:56, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

Hello, how did you format the "My Works" section on your talk page? It looks really cool and I would like to do something similar. Thanks, Lyn1644 (talk) 01:18, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

@Lyn1644 Have a look at the source code of User:TheLonelyPather/Articles. Cheers, --The Lonely Pather (talk) 08:41, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

Appreciating my wiki-colleagues

		The Chinese Barnstar
		I'm very lucky that I can contribute while constantly learning more about such vital topics, while surrounded by editors like you. Thank you so much for your work on China-related topics, it's a real inspiration for me.

Remsense诉 02:29, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

Thank you, @Remsense, and the same to you. May I say that your work is also commendable–in particular Puyi and Pinyin! Working on vital articles is really hard, since there are so many sources, and I really appreciate your effort too. Cheers, --The Lonely Pather (talk) 09:06, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

I've cast a pretty big net for myself, and I feel happy jumping around a lot between big language, history, etc. articles. but i think a lot of articles are currently in a place where two hours of attention does a lot, so I eventually want to apply some even level of help across my areas of interest! I definitely struggle the most with writing new material from scratch, so I have been reaching for low-hanging fruit in my mind, as it were. :) Thank you so much, cheers! Remsense诉 09:11, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

DYK for Joseph Pierce (soldier)

On 6 March 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Joseph Pierce (soldier), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Chinese-born Joseph Pierce (pictured) enlisted as a Union Army soldier, fought at the Battle of Gettysburg during the American Civil War, and was made a corporal? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Joseph Pierce (soldier). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Joseph Pierce (soldier)), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

—Ganesha811 (talk) 00:02, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

		Hook update
		Your hook reached 29,156 views (1,214.9 per hour), making it one of the most viewed hooks of March 2024 – nice work!

GalliumBot (talk • contribs) (he/it) 03:28, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

New students

Hello there. New semester has started, new students including many Chinese ones are again going to be working with me on the wiki. You can find the list of students at https://outreachdashboard.wmflabs.org/users/Piotrus and their chosen topics will be appearing there in the near future. First topic I approved from translation from zh to en is zh:打铁花, there will be more soon. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 06:36, 16 March 2024 (UTC)

Happy Easter!

	Easter Joy
	Happy Easter to a fine editor! May you have a kind and joyful Paschaltide! ~ Pbritti (talk) 23:11, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

Happy Easter to you too, @Pbritti! I visited the Canterbury Cathedral a few days ago–I pray for the reconciliation and reunification between all churches, but especially the Church of England and the Roman Catholic Church. Cheers, --The Lonely Pather (talk) 23:13, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

* the image you attached reminded me of this ancient homily on Christ's harrowing of the hell. It brings me to tears whenever I read it, and I recommend it to you. Cheers, --The Lonely Pather (talk) 23:14, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

I am thankful to the Lord that this project has brought so many faithful together in the mission of providing free information to as many people as possible! Even if our churches are not reconciled in this life, I am hopeful the people within them are united in the next! I hope your time at the cathedral was fruitful—I must visit someday! The Harrowing is among my favorite motifs across all Christian works, so I'll have to read the homily! Keep up the excellent work on Chinese Christianity articles; I may have time to do a GA check on one of your noms this week, so keep an eye out for that. Best, ~ Pbritti (talk) 23:23, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the offer of the GA check! I will have some time for that this week. After the Cross Temple, Fangshan FAC, I have another ambitious project on en-wiki. Though it is not a church in China, it is surely interesting, and you will absolutely love it. Please also kindly let me know your thoughts after reading the ancient homily, if possible. Cheers, --The Lonely Pather (talk) 23:31, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

I'm in the hunt for my first FA (for Free and Candid Disquisitions, but a somewhat abortive PR failed to provide much insight, so I'll be patient). You've got a good example to follow there with that FAC! ~ Pbritti (talk) 23:43, 31 March 2024 (UTC)