User talk:TheRedPenOfDoom/Archive 18
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Box office conflict
Hi TRPOD, with regard to this edit, though I don't object to the range, I don't think there's a real conflict between the sources. The IBT value was published nine days or so after the BOI source. Additionally, the BOI value was written as a guess. It's hardly an article and it would otherwise deserve a {{better}} template. Surely more information or more sales could have influenced the gross in those nine extra days, and other sources [1][2] considered reliable by the task force suggest the gap might be smaller. Anyhow, the chief reason why I even care is because of the typical POV behavior of these IP editors, beginning with this guy, who proclaimed that nobody should change the value or the source, and more recently, the shouty IP user who came to the party with a chip on his shoulder and who seems to have a specific agenda to report a single value that matches his POV. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:41, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
Badlapur
It seems there is a problem is recognizing the impasct of this film. The current IMDB rating is 7.9 with much of recognized reviewrs giving it around 4/5. Which means critical acclaim, and with 25Cr budget from India BO only the producers have recovered 50cR now..with overseas the collection is around 70cR, which makes it a commercial success too. But repeatedly these words are being deleted by you.
Secondly the word HIT is generally used when a film recovers more than double of its investment, so even 100cr films may nt be a hit. Jogider Tuteja, Taran Adarsh and Komal Nahata have all acknowledged Badlapur to be a Hit but again this reference is repeatedly getting deleted by you. And surprsingly while you retain figures from a trade journal you deftly edit out the same journal's observation on the same figures. Guess a little objectivity will help.
On another note, the 96.1 crore overall collection mentioned in the right panel ys thatis not correct, and neither the source its referring to that. It should be max 70 cr overall. So you may need to be a little diligent too instead of subjectively removing words which for some reason you are not liking !!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 14.99.68.154 (talk) 19:12, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker)@14.99.68.154: IMDb ratings represent user votes, which are not considered noteworthy. Any crank with a mouse can influence the vote. We only care about professional reviewers from reliable sources. More importantly, however, is that IMDb is not considered a reliable source anyway. Koimoi does not seem to be well-considered by the Indian cinema task force, and any such proclamations of "blockbuster status", "super hit", "hit", I would remove as being unencyclopedic unless they were directly attributed to a source and made clear that they are an opinion, not a fact. A fact would entail describing profits with numbers. "The film budget was ₹NNc, the expenses were ₹NNc, the profit (or loss) was ₹NNc." We don't need any more fluffy promotional language in Bollywood articles; we have no shortage. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:49, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
AE
Can I suggest that you remove your last comment? It may not work in your favor. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 23:47, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
- Don't think for a moment that Wikipedia's reputation and gross capitulation to organized external trolls will get any better when admins are hide behind "I was only following orders". If a rule prevents you from improving or maintaining Wikipedia, ignore it.-- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 00:30, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
possible fringe edits
Would you mind taking a look at the recent edits to Oconaluftee (Great Smoky Mountains)? They might be WP:FRINGE theories. Bms4880 (talk) 13:43, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
GG
A complete fabrication? Interesting - what information are you using to come to this conclusion? Perhaps I am missing some sources? [3] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marcos12 (talk • contribs) 20:38, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
- @Marcos12: specifically Le Monde, one of the key news sources of France that is the 4 in the citations supporting the sentence. but also every source thereafter in the section and many more that we have not used. #notyourshield was an astroturf campaign that everyone saw was astroturf.-- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 20:45, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
Indian topic question
Hey, so I know you have some experience in Indian topics. Can you take a look at E-courts In India? The article reads really promotionally, which is weird for the topic, but I don't even know where to start in terms of verification and stuff. Thanks. Thargor Orlando (talk) 14:09, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar | |
For your work on Victoria Nuland. LLAP, Dear ODear ODear trigger warnings 15:16, 13 March 2015 (UTC) |
Arbitration
I mentioned you.[4]
Wadorf Education-Anthroposophy-Rudolf Steiner
Hi @TheRedPenOfDoom:, I don't know if you're into this kind of stuff, or even like taking requests like this, but I think there is a group of articles relating to Waldorf education, Rudolf Steiner, Anthroposophy, and Anthroposophical medicine that desperately desperately need The Red Pen of Doom. They're rampant with POV, ADVERT, and CITE issues. I've been focusing on Waldorf education for now, but these articles have a long history of pro-bias and sock-puppetry from activists on both sides. They need third party reviewers. *cue star wars music* PLEASE TRPoD, You're my only hope! --Shibbolethink (♔ ♕) 00:06, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
Clarification and amendment
Hi, TRPOD. Re your statement at AE today: Risker wasn't on ArbCom for any part of the Gamergate case. Did you mean some other page (or a different arb)?
Would you like a diff for my statement, that you also refer to? Here. Bishonen | talk 13:38, 17 March 2015 (UTC).
- @Bishonen: I was referring to what she was discussing on the proposed decision talk page [5] -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 17:09, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
Please don't remove reliable sources fromCrime Patrol (TV series)
This is the message letting you to know that the sources that you removed from Crime Patrol (TV series) are not a PR firm, but are reliable sources. The next time you remove reliable sources, you could be blocked from editing Wikipedia by administrators. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.69.111.35 (talk) 14:04, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
122.148.163.131 / Pabdelma / SweetPoet345 / NewbornCircle
FYI, see this. ―Mandruss ☎ 21:00, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
Barnstar
Thx 4 d barnstar :D. WIll do my best to make articles nicer to see and read. Ssven2 (talk
you are welcome. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 23:23, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
Dude now check the main lead. Every thing mentioned is sourced and all sources are reliable. please check before reverting. myself cleaned unwanted content.now the article looks perfect. Thanks Harirajmohanhrm talk (talk) 14:40, 26 September 2014 (UTC).
Joust
Why did you remove my added content from the Joust video game article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Widowman88s (talk • contribs)
:-- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 23:23, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
Thanks
Many thanks for cleaning up the errors on the Presidency page. A few still remain but I'm not yet confident enough to make the changes on my own.
AfD notification
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Wilayat_Kirkuk_(ISIL)
Happy New Year!
Dual Survival (season 4)
I noticed you my reverted edit again on that article. I thought I would show you the WP:PROVEIT. I don't care if we wait until the date of the show actually airing to link on the next season page. But I thought I would let you know the first episode of season five is titled "Into The Canyons" and is scheduled to air on January 21, 2015. [6]
Ileana D'Cruz
Let me edit Ileana D'Cruz
Arijit Singh
Can you have a look at my sandbox, where I am re-writing the page Arijit Singh with a similar pattern from articles of international music artists like, Rihanna, Taylor Swift, Shakira and many other, which were considered well written. Can you give a quick feedback on ways to improve it. Thank you!
Mālāsana
Can you see if Mālāsana is fine in its current version? Yesterday I found some of the recent changes that violate copyrights, [7](copies [8]) - [9] (results: https://tools.wmflabs.org/dupdet/compare.php?url1=https%3A%2F%2Fahimsakasatya.wordpress.com%2F2013%2F11%2F16%2Fmalasana-a-b-garland-pose%2F&url2=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FM%25C4%2581l%25C4%2581sana&minwords=2&minchars=13])
[[About Arabs in Turkey]
I change the populations of Arabs in Turkey based on a current statistics made by Arabs of Turkey, and it clearly shows us that Arab population in Turkey is more than 8 millions. I do not know why you insist that our population is lower than 1 million. The reference I put is Turkish and I can gladly translate it to you. You guys have to admit that There are Arab people in Turkey as well.
Thank you for your time
Yevadu
Accepted that the word decent was an opinion, but still decent is a general term and in the lead, it can be like that as it is just a summary. But using the phrase "received what IB Times called "decent" feedback from critics" disturbs the lead's flow. It is already mentioned in the Reception section in detail and finds no specific and necessary place in the lead except for the fact - decent feedback. Using "what IB Times called" in the lead also looks like promotion though it was not your intention. Can you please reconsider your decision? Pavanjandhyala (talk) 12:10, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
- Agreed. But don't you think it indeed disturbs the lead? When mentioned "decent feedback" in the lead, the viewer/reader would understand that it was IBT's opinion once they reach Critical reception section? Give it a thought. We aren't evading anything in the lead, but i just feel that the summary need not specify IBT's involvement and highlight the word decent. Pavanjandhyala (talk) 12:22, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
Thank you for you edits!
Hello! Thank you for your edits on Sophie Hunter's page! I just noticed that there needs to be a space between the title of the production and the the time stamp. "Lucretia(2011)". Minor quibble. There's also a new page request on the talk page. I hope you can help with it. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.31.198.192 (talk) 04:22, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
- TheRedPenOfDoom, I want you to be aware that this IP is more than likely a sock of Fairyspit. They ask editors to do their editing for them and have a huge obsession with Benedict Cumberbatch and his associates. LADY LOTUS • TALK 13:27, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
Why do you removing my PNG file, why are you changing back to JPEG version, from ESB?
Retrieved from http://spongebob.wikia.com/wiki/Dunces_and_Dragons. Thanks. :) --Jcpag2012 (a.k.a. John Carlo) from Wikipedia 08:59, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
Talk:Ayurveda
The article is under restrictions. One of the restrictions is to be nice to those you may disagree with. This is pushing it. Please be careful. --John (talk) 11:36, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
- I severely question how it is "not nice" to point out basic content policy. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary sources. What is "not nice" is filling up pages of the archives by people attempting to deny that the baseline is the complete lack of support by the experts in the field, the complete lack of repeatable evidence, and the fact that many of the treatments are demonstrably highly toxic. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 11:45, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
- Indeed. It is also not nice for lunatic charlatans to corrupt wikipedia, and for admins to support said efforts. -Roxy the dog™ (resonate) 14:26, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
Template:Zee Bangla shows
I ultimately just put that template as a deletion due to the fact that just about every page on there was created by a meat/sock puppet (and likely to have them all deleted anyway) Wgolf (talk) 17:29, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
Sir Please Guide Me
What is the exact policy of Wikipedia for Sultan Rahi, and please let me know what all you want why dont you accept my article ???? why again again my work is being reverted??? (John leo007 (talk) 21:54, 28 March 2015 (UTC)).
my edit contributions
I never heard of Paula Broadwell, but for being in the news for stalking and being the CIA mistress nontheless, she (and every living subject) all have their wiki begin with their careers, past and present. In fact, i beleive hers even begind with something like former military officer, academic, and writer. therefore to be consistent, and most appropiate, a subject opens with their career/former appointments, follwed by the action that put them in the news. thank you for understanding my consistency and contribution of my edit — Preceding unsigned comment added by Baumblor (talk • contribs) 15:58, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
- @Baumblor: Your assumption is incorrect - see WP:LEADSENTENCE. Kelley is not notable for her honorary positions. --NeilN talk to me 16:18, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
- To use an obvious example, have a look at J. K. Rowling. Nothing in the lead sentence about her Amnesty International work or teaching career. --NeilN talk to me 16:31, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
Ten edits to get confirmed, and then a revert. Hmmm. [10] --NeilN talk to me 16:51, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
FYI, Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Harvardclub --NeilN talk to me 17:09, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
thanks for revision
hello. i am adding the link for aham sharma page now. thank you for revising. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Feniks105 (talk • contribs) 12:35, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
hello Sir. i just found the reliable source. please give me a moment. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Feniks105 (talk • contribs) 13:19, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
Unknown expression
What does "bumpkiss is not given primacy" mean, please? Skeptic2 (talk) 01:03, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
- Thank you for your explanation of this new (to me) word. We do not disagree about the need to be skeptical of this case. but your edits have removed useful (and skeptical) information and references. Your blanket reversions appear high-handed. Please don't start an edit war on this. Another user has already chastised you for acting as though you own the page and your response was to threaten to block them, which rather confirms the point. I have been working for years to keep the loonies out of this entry, so we are working to the same ends. Please try to find some merit in the edits of others. I would appreciate your support rather than endless conflict. That's how to lose friends. Skeptic2 (talk) 01:33, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
- Are you sure the word isn't really "bubkes"? And, whatever the word, it isn't "given primacy" if you bother to read my edits rather than blindly reverting. Skeptic2 (talk) 01:45, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
- Why are you now deleting skeptical sources as "unreliable"? I have spent considerable time fixing your string of botched edits and now you are undoing good work. What is your agenda? Skeptic2 (talk) 02:05, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
- Seems to me that you are now leaving glaring gaps in what was a much-improved article. I share the opinion of User 80.201.60.73 on your ability. Skeptic2 (talk) 02:40, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
- Why are you now deleting skeptical sources as "unreliable"? I have spent considerable time fixing your string of botched edits and now you are undoing good work. What is your agenda? Skeptic2 (talk) 02:05, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
- Are you sure the word isn't really "bubkes"? And, whatever the word, it isn't "given primacy" if you bother to read my edits rather than blindly reverting. Skeptic2 (talk) 01:45, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
Rohit Kapuria
The user Rohit Kapuria keeps on removing aFD tags and is now saying "you will be blocked if you continue to send them to me (which he is up for a spi anyway), but yeah this is getting crazy. Wgolf (talk) 17:07, 3 April 2015 (UTC) I've added many of the pages that keep on getting reverted here: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Vamsiraj also check out the edits by the IP as there are even more! Wgolf (talk) 18:15, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
Malayalam cinema
You have made four reverts to the Malayalam cinema within 5 hours. We have a bright line regarding such behaviour outlined at WP:3RRNO, which is that a user who reverts three times in 24 hours is blocked to prevent them from reverting again. You need to explain the rationale behind your actions on the talkpage of the article. You may have a valid point, but that point is going to get lost in an edit war. Under the guidance essay WP:BRD, when someone sees something in an article they disagree with, they may be Bold and change it. If someone comes along and Reverts them, they don't get into an edit war, they go to the talkpage and Discuss the reason for their edit. That's what you need to do right now. Be aware, if I see any more editing warring on that article I may lock down the article in whichever version I come upon, and/or block those involved without any further warning. SilkTork ✔Tea time 19:06, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
Help
A RS states "Drushyam has been made with a with a medium budget of Rs 6 crores and producer Suresh Babu has reportedly shelled out around Rs 3-4 crores on its promotions". What should be the budget written in the info box? 6 crores or 10 crores appx? Please clarify! Pavanjandhyala (talk) 15:04, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
Hello, I'm TheRedPenOfDoom. Wikipedia is written by people who have a wide diversity of opinions, but we try hard to make sure articles have a neutral point of view. Your recent edit seemed less than neutral to me, so I removed it for now. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 19:55, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
- Hello there! Agreed, Wikipedia is written by people who have wide diversity of opinions, and we try hard to ensure articles have a neutral point of view. Wonder whats wrong with the neutrality of the version that I have worked on. They are real facts. Am fine for you to add your portion of the text, but I disagree you deleting the content I have added on to it. Your version and mine are facts and numbers well supported. Jimmy.Karumalil (talk)
- Hi There, in that case, can you please help update 2015 data? I think reference to 2013 article is too outdated.Jimmy.karumalil (talk) 08:00, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
Can you please explain me how it was an original research? I actually in the note cited reliable sources in neutral tone and the facts were not my opinion? Pavanjandhyala (talk) 04:41, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
- Then suggest me what to do? But you never did it in any of the past situations. One thing is sure, what i'm trying to say is not false and when a rule prevents me from improving or maintaining an article's reliability, i can surely ignore it. I learnt it from you Pen, don't deny it! Pavanjandhyala (talk) 05:32, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
Please don't redirect Reporters (Indian TV series)
This is to let you know that your recent edit to Reporters (Indian TV series) has been reverted to the last revision. In your edit summary, you explained that the show is not notable. But let me tell you that the show is notable and will be premiered tomorrow, I.e., 13 April 2015. If you think that this is not true, then you can check the news about the show on Google. As the show is about to premiere, lots of people can search the article on Wikipedia. I hope you won't redirect the article again. 182.69.69.55 (talk) 04:11, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
Reply
If you think Reporters (Indian TV series) does not have reliable sources, then you help me how the article should be improved, or please you contribute to the article, because people can search the topic on Wikipedia. 122.162.169.208 (talk) 17:45, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
Reply
OK, the show will premiere tomorrow, i.e., 13 April 2015. So, on tomorrow can I restore Reporters (Indian TV series)?122.162.169.208 (talk) 18:01, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
Invitation
Do reply me with this issue
Sir... I can understand that there are certain rules and restrictions in Wikipedia which are indeed proper as the edit,which can be done by any one,can cause the defects in the article(even though my case is different as "the person on whom the article is ,is herself wants me to edit it ).So,Plz give me the guidelines for the edit in the article...which i want to do. So what should i do to get reference as the text which i want to put in is not published on website..so is reference from Facebook verified official page of person whose article is allowed... So conformation of the real person about the text in edit can be put... do reply me and tell what sholud be done... - yours sincerely
Yash W...— Preceding unsigned comment added by Yash W (talk • contribs)
- @Yash W: The information is plastered all over your talk page User talk:Yash W. Please read them and the blue links to the official policies and guidelines. We are an encyclopedia, not a free web advertising service. We cover what the third party reliable sources cover, and present it in a neutral, non promotional manner.
- If Mishti wants to say certain things about herself, she can do so on her facebook page or set up her own web page. She cannot control what goes on at Wikipedia. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 12:42, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
Ayurveda
John the admin, who currently doesn't appear to watch Ayurveda though he does rule it with an iron thumb, is likely to sanction you for using the word "quack." Grandmothers and eggs comes to mind here Mr. TrPoD, but I wanted to say. regards. -Roxy the Viking dog™ (resonate) 13:00, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
Kerala hothead
Hi TRPOD, in case you don't get the ping, there's a discussion at ANI about the incivil IP hopper from Kerala, should you wish to participate. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:56, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
Reporters
What is your problem buddy? You complain about lack of reliable sources. I add reliable sources and you remove them. If you don't like the page, take it to AfD. rather than deleting the content!!!! Coderzombie (talk) 15:26, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
- Though I agree the article has a lot of promotional material and I removed most of the promotional blurb kind of sources. But at least keep the content from reliable sources like Newslaundry, Firstpost, Times of India, Indian Express. That's the reason I have not added any good reviews by non-reliable sources. Coderzombie (talk) 15:33, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
Ayurveda
I was reading over your recent discussion with User:Wujastyk on the Ayurveda talk page, and I'm a bit troubled. My biggest concern with that page is that with all the fighting and squabbling and sanctions, the editors who we really want editing the article will be driven off and only the POV warriors will remain, leading to unstable articles swinging between extremes, stacked with sources but in the end unhelpful to the readers. I totally understand wanting to make sure good science is represented, but I fear that you are playing into the problem. Re-read what User:Wujastyk has said...I think you are misunderstanding their position...trying to paint him into a corner that he's not actually in. ~Adjwilley (talk) 03:31, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
Corona Del Mar High School
It is really two schools, and I had placed photos of both of them, the "High School", as well as the "Middle school", on the page. I don't think that 4 (photos) could qualify as a real "quadzillion", but I am going to restore the middle school photo as it does belong on the page. Cheers! talk→ WPPilot 14:42, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
A kitten for you!
Hi. Maybe it's not clear but I started editing the Park page in order to help and find a middle ground in order at some point to remove the NPOV tag. I provided a bunch of links presenting the other side. Some of them were already in the talk page months before I arrive there. I am not trying to push any POV and I sorry that I may have given this impression.
I am not good in article building (even though I try to improve) and I was hoping my contributions would be the start for someone else to improve the page further.
Please work in the direction to create a neutral page for Park containing all the info from both sides.
As you may see I also left questions in RS about the links I provided asking for more opinions and the conclusions will be beneficial not only for Park's page.
Anyway. Keep the good work. Thanks.
James Gill (artist)
Hello, I plan to completely review the article "James Gill (artist)" as it contains a number of violations. The new version (which will be in line with the article in German and French Wikipedia) will fully replace the present entries. - Norbert Schott (talk) 21:26, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for your trust! I will take care of the article but this will take a little while. What's still unclear to me is why it is not possible to move the article from "James Gill (artist)" to "James Gill" - as there is no article about "James Gill" yet as it seems. Norbert Schott (talk) 07:18, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
Hello, I think to gather works at one place is basically a good idea, but in this case I prefer to put them where they were before => It doesn't take much extra space, I will not add more images and the article will be in line with the German and French version. Not to forget that I will work on more languages like IT end ES, so the structure of this article should basically be the same. Thanks for the other edits! :-) Regards, Norbert Schott (talk) 18:41, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
Endurance International Group
Greetings. I'm not sure why you would decide to avoid the "talk" section for Endurance International Group and revert the article once again, based on a judgement call you've made. You're actually removing valuable data from our encyclopedia because you feel it looks like a "directory". If that's the case, then by all means, do feel free to contribute by editing this "directory" into a paragraph that does not look so directory-ish to you - but retains the information. Please do not destroy value in articles because you do not care for the formatting. Also, please be careful here as these reverts are close to violating the sprit, and subtance, of the WP:Revert only when necessary rule, and that is never good for editors or the project. Again, if you have issues, use the "talk" section and provide the specific Wikipedia policy that you feel is not being followed. Thank you. 72.234.220.38 (talk) 04:26, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
A Barnstar for you
Teahouse Barnstar | |
Kudos for answering questions accurately. If it wouldn't cramp your style, throw in a handful of friendly words as well. Thanks. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 05:55, 18 April 2015 (UTC) |
Aligarh Muslim University
The information about the Faculties and Departments should not note categories as promotional content. Several University pages like Delhi University , Jawaharlal Nehru University contain those informations then why this disparity? Expecting an answer. Zon (talk) 16:12, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
Why do you redirect
Why are you always in the habit of redirecting TV shows articles. I had removed routine promotional plugs and added reliable sources of The Times of India, Indian Express, The Hindu. These newspapers are very big and popular in India. These newspapers are not routine promotional plugs, but are reliable sources. I want your reply or I will again restore these articles: Mohi, Tum Hi Ho Bandhu Sakha Tumhi, Yeh Ishq Nahin Aasaan (TV series) and Gulmohar Grand 122.176.10.48 (talk) 13:03, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
Reply
If you think that the sources which I have linked in those articles are promotional blather, than which sources are reliable? Promos of these TV shows have been aired on the respective TV channels and people can search those topics on Wikipedia. Now you tell me, if you keep on redirecting TV shows articles, where they will find those articles on Wikipedia? 122.176.10.48 (talk) 13:16, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
Reply
If they fail in establishing significant coverage about future event, then how many sources do you need to claim future event? I think 2-3 sources are enough to claim future events. If I find more reliable sources on the web, I promise you that I will add them to these articles. Please reply. 122.176.10.48 (talk) 13:34, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
Reply
If it's not the number, but material, then if I add some more relevant material within these sources, would it be OK for you? 122.176.10.48 (talk) 13:44, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
Reply
Thanks very much for contributing on the articles which you were earlier in a habit of redirecting those articles! I should say that it is the best to contribute on articles, rather than redirecting them. 122.176.10.48 (talk) 18:27, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
100 Days of Love
Why would one regard reviews from Nowrunning.com and Yentha.com as non-professional. Nowrunning review is written by Veeyen who has been reviewing Malayalam films since mid nineties in Indian Express's Screen India magazine. His reviews are published online since at lease 1998 making him one of the first online critics for Malayalam films. Also, Yentha.com is a much appreciated news website based in Kerala. Please reconsider your edit. Thanks. Malayala Sahityam (talk) 19:50, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
Regarding Venus Project redirect
Normally a redirect is proposed using the Wikipedia:Proposed mergers instructions. Alternatively, an AfD discussion may result in a redirect.
See discussion at Talk:The_Venus_Project#no_there_there.
You say there is no indication consensus of AFD has changed, but this is just speculation without going through the proper procedure.
Perhaps a Wikipedia:Third opinion is needed. Jonpatterns (talk) 11:33, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
Need help with promotional articles
I've found a series of articles that seem promotional to me, and I'd like to hear your opinion on them, as you know more about this area than me. Though the films are American productions, the sources are frequently Bollywood-related, and some of these sources look suspicious to me. Can you look at Rohit Gupta, Another Day Another Life, and Life! Camera Action...? (Corridor film and Midnight Delight (film) are just stubs and apparently haven't gotten the promotional treatment yet.) My concern is that apparent SPAs are editing these articles to promote Rohit Gupta and his films. I'm not a very good judge of Bollywood sources, but I can tell when an article is promotional ("The making and success of the film is widely considered as an important touchtone of the digital-age film movement...", "...received universal acclaim and its message widely praised..."). I don't really know where to begin on cleaning up these articles. If you've got the time, please take a look. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 15:10, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
Corona Del Mar High School
I see that you have already been over this with DaltonHird on the above mentioned page. looks like a WP:SPA account for bashing the school. talk→ WPPilot 03:55, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
- I hit it with a RFC, please chime in. --talk→ WPPilot 05:23, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
Holidays and Indian film releases
There are sources indeed. For the record, generally few Indian films releases coincide with festivals like Sankranthi, Ugadi, Dusshera, Deepavali and Christmas. There were films whose makers fixed their release date to take advantage of the holidays. Article can be created but it is a herculean task and requires huge man work and time, which can't be found for now since examinations are being conducted currently for many groups. I believe everyone shall be free probably after June 2015. Then i'm sure many can show interest. Thank you! Pavanjandhyala (talk) 12:08, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
A word of caution
[11] This could be taken as battleground mentality by others, commenting on the editor and not the content. --MASEM (t) 02:42, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
Inconsistent Removals
Hi Redpenofdoom - I certainly appreciate you editing the Elcom_Credit_Union page however I think your removal of sources that are being used by our direct competitors is inconsistent - Please see Police_Bank_Ltd - especially as they help fix the orphan issue & verification issue. Certainly appreciate the job you do and just want to reiterate our desire to meet the guidelines. Bowey21 (talk) 05:15, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
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This guy is suspicious
Read his Comments . He is trying to push a website www.darkmoon.in which opens as blog.darkmoon.in . He admits having contacted the owner and following it for one year. Two times he pushed it as his source .Everywhere he is adding unreliable reverences , 2. --C E (talk) 14:20, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) Hi, CosmicEmperor, with the exception of maybe some issues with phrasing, I don't see what the problem was with these edits by the user. I'm going to comment on the relevant talk page, but I think your answer here is somewhat unsatisfying. From what I can tell, the content was taken from an actual print magazine, (link here page 52) so there is a presumption of editorial standards. What's the problem? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 14:38, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
- Cyphoidbomb (talk) , in that case let it be.The website didn't look reliable. But you came with a different link. But i don't know whether motherland print magazine is very reliable source right now as i can't find anything done before.And his previous edits were from a blog which looked like www.darkmoon.in , opening as blog.darkmoon.in. C E (talk) 14:46, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
- @CosmicEmperor: They have at least 14 issues, each having somewhere between 50-70 pages. There are numerous issues available for purchase here. I can't tell how often they publish (maybe quarterly?) and I notice a lack of "Volume/Issue" information, but that sounds more like a "they gotta get their shit together" situation more than anything. They're actually publishing—in print! That's more than any of us can say about these fly-by-night websites that pop up pretending to be news outlets. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 14:57, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
PEAR
Your name was mentioned at WP:ANI. 76.107.171.90 (talk) 15:59, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
Unwanted edits in the page of Nandita Swetha
Hi I am Seny. And I noticed that you have done some unwanted edits in the page of Nandita Swetha. Wiki may not be a reliable source because you kind of people are doing the edits as per your wish. There is reliable sources provided for all the details mentioned in the site. I am bringing this to the notice of other people in wiki. I am not a beginner. Please donot do edits just to show the number of edits. :Seny P Arukattu* — Preceding undated comment added 18:10, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
WSHE
If you are going to write about WSHE Radio Status/History. Please post the Correct Data, Your data is Very incorrect. Your editing is beginning to suggest a biased view. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hubbard-radio (talk • contribs) 11:27, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
Would you mind taking a look at Shared universe? This article seems to be filled with original research, and it seems like more gets added every day. It could be a very interesting and informative topic, but in its current form it is almost useless. 2601:D:B480:ED2:700C:F071:22B0:4562 (talk) 11:19, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
- TheRedPenOfDoom, could you please take a look? If you will see, edits like this are indicative of the problem. 2601:D:B480:ED2:F86C:E700:1AE1:C2FE (talk) 15:05, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
Do you think this should include pre-Columbian contacts? Dougweller (talk) 20:27, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
- @Dougweller: I dont think so. the vast majority of the items in the list are at best random contacts and not formal relations between governments or widely held popular sentiments of one recognized group to another. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 21:36, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
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Tempted to file SPI
Hi T, I'm tempted to file an SPI report on the user who popped up here to resubmit the same problematic content, although my instinct is that there might not be a direct relationship and I might be barking up the wrong tree. This "new" user has been somewhat active for a little while, although with only 942 edits. Thoughts? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:46, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
- @Cyphoidbomb: I dont think they are specifically connected other than sharing the general misconception that Wikipedia is a fansite/celebrity gossip mag. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 15:59, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
- Okeedoke. I'll put my sword back in the scabbard. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:07, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
Undid Edit
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I used a primary source to back up my statistics. Why was it reverted? Destructor3 (talk) 15:23, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
- @Destructor3: because you used a primary source in a manner that is not an acceptable use of a primary source. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 15:27, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
- So you are saying that an article about how many members of a subreddit there are is more reliable then the numbers directly from a subreddit? Destructor3 (talk) 15:29, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
- Yes. For Wikipedia, the secondary source making their informed analysis of the primary sources is in fact more "reliable" than Wikipedian editors doing the same. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 15:34, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
- Wow. This website is in DESPERATE need of change. That is the most ridiculous thing ive ever heard of. Destructor3 (talk) 18:53, 3 May 2015 (UTC)'
- Also, its not something thats up for interpretation. ITS A FUCKING STATISTIC. Its ridiculous how biased and un-neutral the admins are here.
- There is all the analysis of how much that that particular site actually represents something that has no official site, how many of the sign ins are actual supporters, how many are trolls, how many are there to voice objections and how many are merely socks attempting to boost the impression that the harassment group is representative of gamers rather than merely a fringe of a fringe. As Mark Twain stated, "There are 3 type of lies: White lies, damn lies and statistics." -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 19:23, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
- So, by your logic, if i went out made a blog and said that gamergate has 8 million supporters i could just just that as facts. Your logic is so flawed it is silly. There are so many people that support gamergate that a hashtag about pizza of all things was made trending just because of how many people they had do it. SJWs like you are an even smaller group known as the vocal minority, except you have a bit of power. But i'm sure that like everywhere else with cowardly, white knight, sjw mods you will just ban me. Destructor3 (talk) 00:52, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
- @Destructor3: I am pretty sure I never called you a reliable source. I dont have time or energy to try to teach someone about wikipedia who will not even read the links provided. Good bye. Please do not come to my page again. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 02:07, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) @Destructor3: That wouldn't make any sense at all and no experienced editor here would encourage you to do that or tell you such a thing was okay. See WP:SELFPUB or WP:RS.. If you're concerned about being banned, (indefinitely blocked is often mistaken as "banned") the quickest way to have that happen is to go down the ignoble avenue of personal attacks. Statements such as "SJWs like you" comments on the editor, not on their edits, which is a violation of WP:NPA. You're editing in a subject that fuels emotion. Only editors with thick skin should be editing in these venues. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 01:13, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
- You know man i really do have thick skin. But when someone with power decides to come along and just delete facts to further his own agenda it really pisses me off. Destructor3 (talk) 01:16, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
- (In retrospect, what I should have said was "level head" as "thick skin" implies an ability to absorb abuse, which is kinda the opposite of what I meant.) Cyphoidbomb (talk) 01:26, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
- You know man i really do have thick skin. But when someone with power decides to come along and just delete facts to further his own agenda it really pisses me off. Destructor3 (talk) 01:16, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
- So, by your logic, if i went out made a blog and said that gamergate has 8 million supporters i could just just that as facts. Your logic is so flawed it is silly. There are so many people that support gamergate that a hashtag about pizza of all things was made trending just because of how many people they had do it. SJWs like you are an even smaller group known as the vocal minority, except you have a bit of power. But i'm sure that like everywhere else with cowardly, white knight, sjw mods you will just ban me. Destructor3 (talk) 00:52, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
- There is all the analysis of how much that that particular site actually represents something that has no official site, how many of the sign ins are actual supporters, how many are trolls, how many are there to voice objections and how many are merely socks attempting to boost the impression that the harassment group is representative of gamers rather than merely a fringe of a fringe. As Mark Twain stated, "There are 3 type of lies: White lies, damn lies and statistics." -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 19:23, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
- Yes. For Wikipedia, the secondary source making their informed analysis of the primary sources is in fact more "reliable" than Wikipedian editors doing the same. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 15:34, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
- So you are saying that an article about how many members of a subreddit there are is more reliable then the numbers directly from a subreddit? Destructor3 (talk) 15:29, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
Sadda Haq (TV Series) page
Hi, I will edit the plot summary of that page & this time I will write it briefly. Thanks for the helping guide links. Hcns (talk) 13:02, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
Name lists
I realise that you have explained it but I can't get my head round this. Someone has described it as "pedantry" and, well, it certainly seems odd. Sure, it could be converted to a dab but I notice that we do have a category for lists of people who share a name. What it very specifically is not is a list of people from a caste. That was the entire point of the exercise, given that last name is not verification of caste. Indeed, that particular list is an extremely good example of the general principle because Helen Reddy is in the mix and the chances of her being a Reddy are as near to zero as makes no difference.
I think you probably need to take this to some sort of community decision-making forum, not the list talk page. I am not unduly fussed whether it stays as a list or as a dab but I suspect that those obsessed with lists and with categories might have something to say. - Sitush (talk) 11:26, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
Not to put pressure on you
But how long will it take the conflict involving the Newsweek article to be resolved? Leave a message on my talk page so I can see the notification. Ylevental (talk) 18:43, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
Dude, whats your problem
Why you are reverting the page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sant_Longowal_Institute_of_Engineering_and_Technology again and again.
And if i had marked the "template:IN Use" then cant you understand or read. That im working on it, do not interfere. You kept on reverting it. Hello, redpen or whatever you are. I am requesting you if you please stop reverting the changes, instead help me in that to make it more better. Instead of giving me bullshit comments "Last Best Version" and all.
Please, can you please cant confirm before reverting it again and again. C'mon im not idiot searching all the web to extract info. And you just revert it back. I am doing something. And moreover, before reverting next time. Please read other Indian college/universities pages. They are also providing the same info. Then whats wrong in this. If the way of presenting it is incorrect, then guide or make it correct. Atleast guide me, to make it worthy not useless by crapping it into 4-5 lines. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Szmohitkumar (talk • contribs) 07:28, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
2016 Obama's America edits undone
Dear Red Pen of Doom, Last year I made numerous edits to the wiki page about the movie 2016 Obama's America for which I was the lead producer and executive producer. I founded the company that created the movie and yet I was nearly completely written out of the wikipage, unlike the IMDb page (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2247692/fullcredits). I made changes to correct errors about my involvement and other people's involvement, which in many cases is vastly overstated. As an example, I founded the business and hired Gerald Molen, yet he is credited on the wiki page for my role and activities. This might be complicated for you because there was a significant legal dispute between myself and Mr. D'Souza, which I attempted to provide a clear understanding of the dispute and referenced news articles that weren't merely press releases from Mr. D'Souza about his claims in the legal dispute. Lastly, I thought it was appropriate to include Mr. D'Souza's criminal activity that he himself references the movie as leading to his prosecution. Because this is my livelihood, I would appreciate if the wiki page changes I made were restored. I can provide additional documentation such as publicly available agreements forming the company and my position as the president, lead producer, lead executive producer, and co-founder of the company and movie. Thank you for your time and consideration. Jayumpire (talk) 22:50, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
Apologies Regarding COI
Hi there. A while ago I rewrote the page for Lexalytics as a first time Wikipedian. I thought I understood the process but I was very wrong. I wanted to apologize for my confusion. Even though you pointed it out to me, it still took me until a while to understand the Conflict of Interest policy. I do now, and I've updated my talk page, and my co-worker has put appropriate COI banners up. I'm very sorry for causing extra work. This has been a big learning experience for me and I appreciate your patience. I'd be eager to listen to any more advice you have to share!
All the best,
Arbitration Enforcement Request
Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#TheRedPenOfDoom 168.1.75.18 (talk) 07:29, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
- I do wonder which editor it was that was so afraid of this request backfiring that they had to use a (now blocked) proxy IP to post it. PeterTheFourth (talk) 08:05, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
Note, I have closed the AE request without action, but also without reviewing the merits of the complaint, see the AE closing notes for details. Zad68
14:31, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
- Notification: Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#TheRedPenOfDoom, third filing starship.paint ~ ¡Olé! 07:24, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
- This WP:AE request has been closed with a new minimum account qualification of 500 edits/30 days of age for the Gamergate controversy article and its Talk page; no further WP:AE action but you are advised to read through the request here. Thanks...
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14:10, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
- This WP:AE request has been closed with a new minimum account qualification of 500 edits/30 days of age for the Gamergate controversy article and its Talk page; no further WP:AE action but you are advised to read through the request here. Thanks...
Wow, take a trip to the north country and get THREE FREE ALL EXPENSE INCLUDED TRIPS TO AE!!! (Tuscany would have been better.) -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 23:12, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
Endurance International Group - Company Structure
Please use the article's talk page before major edits and please be careful of edit-conflicts when another editor happens to be working on the article at the same time (adding secondary sources in this case) while you remove data. Thank you. — 72.234.220.38 (talk) 11:06, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
- The talk page is clear. there is no consensus for non properly sourced listcruft. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 11:09, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
- There is no consensus that I can see, some editors want the data in and are working to improve it (myself), others wish to throw it out rather than finding the sources (you). As I suggest on the talk page, if this is at a stalemate, do call for mediation and let others weigh in on this. Please work to improve this article by addition, not by subtraction. As we're editing at the same time, please note the additional secondary sources being added as we speak. — 72.234.220.38 (talk) 11:15, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
- the WP:ONUS is on the person wishing to include content to establish consensus on source validity. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 11:17, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
- You may not recall that the content was there, and was then removed, with little reason given. Later "non sourced" was given as a reason. Okay, so now sources are being added. Please stop clearing out a section that is being actively edited at the time. — 72.234.220.38 (talk) 11:21, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
- the content was removed because it was inappropriately sourced and non encyclopedic. it is being removed again as it is still inappropriately sourced and non encyclopedic. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 11:23, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
- The content is now being appropriately sourced and is in fact quite encyclopedic as other articles will attest. Please stop removing work while it's being edited. Doing this seems to paint you as a "WikiBully" and who would every want to look like that? — 72.234.220.38 (talk) 11:29, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
- the content was removed because it was inappropriately sourced and non encyclopedic. it is being removed again as it is still inappropriately sourced and non encyclopedic. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 11:23, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
- You may not recall that the content was there, and was then removed, with little reason given. Later "non sourced" was given as a reason. Okay, so now sources are being added. Please stop clearing out a section that is being actively edited at the time. — 72.234.220.38 (talk) 11:21, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
- the WP:ONUS is on the person wishing to include content to establish consensus on source validity. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 11:17, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
- There is no consensus that I can see, some editors want the data in and are working to improve it (myself), others wish to throw it out rather than finding the sources (you). As I suggest on the talk page, if this is at a stalemate, do call for mediation and let others weigh in on this. Please work to improve this article by addition, not by subtraction. As we're editing at the same time, please note the additional secondary sources being added as we speak. — 72.234.220.38 (talk) 11:15, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
aabout this
You said that my account was run by a family. I got my account's name from the Japanese name of this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_Entertainment_System.
FamilycomputerFTW (talk) 19:17, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
- @FamilycomputerFTW: Thanks! You may want to let people know about that by posting something on your User Page. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 19:29, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
Edits at Rajacenna
Hello TRPoD, could you take a quick glance at your major edits recently on Rajacenna? It appears that you removed a number of sources as being cites to Wikipedia, when actually they were cites to news pieces on official news channels, but where the submitter had misformatted the wikilinks to the names of the channels, thus making it look like they were citing Dutch Wikipedia rather than simply indicating that the channel whose work was being cited. I believe you removed a number of valid sources in doing so.
Also, a number of the points you removed had citations, but not inline ones, and I was working with the submitter to improve formatting to make this clearer. I had considered rolling back and leaving you a message, but the submitter has already started re-working the article. To avoid any back-and-forth confusion and hurt feelings by the novice submitter, it'd be great if you could drop in to give it a second look and see what has been removed that might've been valid. Thanks! MatthewVanitas (talk) 08:54, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
New user Rollerride
Rollerride - Created on the 18th and showed decent knowledge of Wikipedia. Focuses on Indian / Pakistan film and has a fascination with Sunny Leone. Sound like anyone else who's edited and currently blocked? Ravensfire (talk) 22:10, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
You participated on the page previously. I pinged @Lou Sander: here to see if he still has an interest in continuing to work on the article/discussion, such as by evaluating consensus here or considering this edit, but I got the sense I'd be dragging him to a page he no longer has a real interst in, which I don't want to do (see @BeenAroundAWhile:'s point here), but the article still has a lot of promotion and primary sources, hardly includes anything about the things she is primarily notable for, and contains a dedicated controversy section, I feel there is reasonable support for not having[12] (as a dedicated section that is).
I was wondering if you had any interest in working on it with me and/or potentially any others that show an interest. I have already collected all the sources I know of, put them into citation templates and thrown together a reasonable first draft. Open to whatever you or others suggest on the best way for me to help in improving the article given my conflict of interest. CorporateM (Talk) 21:49, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for your contribution. I wanted to let you know that I removed the refimprove template on the page. Hcns (talk) 12:50, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
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- Saw this come up on my watchlist. I've gone ahead and fixed it. — Strongjam (talk) 20:45, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
- Hi again...I don't know what your problem with that page is but you seem to want to prevent anything that you view as positive from being added to it. That school is an affiliated institution of the university so why did you change it? If you don't want me adding alumni to that page (why?) then why don't we collaborate on that part of the page? Regarding your last edit and removal of history here are my thoughts: a) whatever history you think you perceive that bothers you is irrelevant to how you should treat what was on that page, b) if additions to a page have a positive effect on the perception of the subject matter, that doesn't make them an advertisement, c) there was nothing inappropriate (or inaccurate) on that page, d) several parts of wikipedia guidance suggest that you should NOT delete content that is verifiable and that the proper behavior would be to improve the article by contributing rather than deleting, e) it specifically states in the wikipedia dispute resolution guide that you should NOT delete salvageable text. Cheers. Paulydee (talk) 20:48, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
I think it's normal to consider that anyone who takes it upon themselves to remove half the page obviously has a problem with what was there and you seem to say that you DO have a problem. But whether or not a fact added to a subject page might happen to promote the subject should not actually constitute a problem, nor does it in itself give you any particular grounds for behaving differently with that page than with any other. So your behavior is contrary to the guidelines and the spirit of wikipedia. If the lack of citations on that particular page is what your are intervening over then you should do what others do which is to put 'citation needed' and/or suggest to move it to another page, and/or collaborate to find some sort of solution. But you seem to be admitting that in fact that isn't why you are intervening. Rather, you're saying that you have a problem with that page in particular because it bothers you that there have been single purpose accounts with an interest in adding things to it, not just because there weren't citations, which actually makes your deletion intervention groundless and inappropriate. Single purpose accounts that add things to a page without violating the rules and spirit of wikipedia are not in themselves grounds for deletion, either in the past or in the future. I see that despite my proposal, you have no interest in collaborating with me. Paulydee (talk) 21:31, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
If you are still unclear then maybe we will have to do some sort of dispute resolution since I already took the trouble to elaborate on my position about why I disagree with your editing behavior. As for personal attacks I think you should stop making them about me by continuing to saying that I'm making them. I just explained regarding your reference to 'problem'. Since I haven't made any supposed personal attacks since you should stop saying that I am continuing to doing so.Paulydee (talk) 21:51, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
Impersonation Accounts
A request for dispute resolution was posted at the dispute resolution noticeboard about Osgoode Hall Law School. In checking whether the preliminaries had been taken care of, I saw that one of the editors was User:TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom. I clicked on the talk page link, only to discover that it wasn't you, but an indeffed sockpuppet of a banned user, User:WindyPegg. The account could probably instead have been indeffed for impersonation, but it was indeffed as a sockpuppet. It then appears that the sockmaster has at least two other accounts that impersonate your user name that are also indeffed as sockpuppets. You must have ticked her off somehow. Based on editing history, I would guess that you deleted unsourced BLP material, requested deletion of a poorly sourced article, or something similar. Are you aware of these banned impersonators? Robert McClenon (talk) 15:25, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
- ((talk page stalker)) I thought that the one you mentioned there was really Mr. Doom when I saw it the other day, fwiw. Glad it is blocked. -Roxy the black and white dog™ (resonate) 15:28, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
- The one that was mentioned at DRN really is TPROD. The inexperienced editor got the user name wrong, using the signature as the user name. The actual dispute really is with TPROD. There are between 15 and 20 blocked socks with either clever or crude parodies of TPROD, and multiple impersonations of an admin also. The real TPROD had repeatedly warned her in October 2014 for adding unsourced and defamatory material. He has an inexperienced critic and a dishonorable enemy. Robert McClenon (talk) 15:35, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
- I think TPROD was aware because the impersonator posted two messages to this talk page back in October! It looks like it arose out of dispute over the Marilou McPhedran article last fall. Liz Read! Talk! 15:38, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
- thank you all. Yes, I am aware of a number of impersonation accounts. The recent name mixup at the DRN just a new editor mixing up my signature for my name. Its kind of interesting that it also happened to lead back to another set of promotional accounts hyping other Canadian universities /academics but that is probably just a coincidence.-- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 17:05, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
- I think TPROD was aware because the impersonator posted two messages to this talk page back in October! It looks like it arose out of dispute over the Marilou McPhedran article last fall. Liz Read! Talk! 15:38, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
Racial Slur
Remove that racial slur from your comment at the Gamergate talk page immediately. 104.254.95.130 (talk) 03:31, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
- FYI, the IP has filed a report at WP:ANI requesting said removal. —C.Fred (talk) 03:56, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
List of Tamil films of 2015
Hello, I see the list of upcoming films without a release date has been removed. Any idea why? Link - List of Tamil films of 2015 - InTeGeR13 (talk) 21:08, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
Alright, so do we need a separate page for movies that are yet to be released? That list was helpful to see which movies were currently being filmed or ready to be released. Want to know where that can be fit. - InTeGeR13 (talk) 21:22, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
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Hi there. I noticed this edit you made earlier today. I would appreciate it if in future you avoided making such edits. If you were to continue to make comments like this you might well find your ability to edit curtailed, which would help nobody. If you have anything helpful to say on the subject I would be very happy to hear it, but I don't think this was, and I think it arguably breached the injunctions in place at the article. Take care, --John (talk) 17:13, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
- I find it hard to believe that linking to an essay that directly addresses the ill founded concerns of the previous poster is inappropriate in any way. " Wikipedia's policies around this kind of thing are exactly spot-on and correct. If you can get your work published in respectable scientific journals - that is to say, if you can produce evidence through replicable scientific experiments, then Wikipedia will cover it appropriately. What we won't do is pretend that the work of lunatic charlatans is the equivalent of "true scientific discourse". It isn't. —Jimbo Wales, March 23, 2014" -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 13:12, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
Please note that the Presidency University, Kolkata page has been vandalised
Please correct / delete unreferenced comments such as 'Hence all corruptions are tucked away under the cupboard.[3]' The citations are to blogs hosted by specific individuals / interest groups.
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hello now plz listen to me
Sir.... then help us to edit the page... the information that i edited are 100% true...but u say refrence must be given... what if i give u conformation message on Mishti Mam's Verified facebook account that the facts r true..
well..dont go on wrong note
sir.... its not like that Mishti wants to control what goes on wikipedia... its that we want the article with full and true information.. we didnt mean to say that....................
- null comment for archving -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 13:16, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
Hello
I notice that my additions to this page were removed a few days ago. Which is fair enough: I hadn't appreciated that entries had not only to be unusual (ie rare/unique, or remarkable/interesting) but also needed a source or sources stating they were unusual (though that does seem a pretty high bar, incidentally). But the thing I am posting for is your edit summary, which said "source...lumps it with the episodes from [Huntington'] own fertile imagination". So, are you saying it never actually happened? That seems a shame; Henry's fate was a staple (if you'll pardon the expression) of history when I was at school. The world feels a little smaller (by a couple of plates of eels, at least)... Moonraker12 (talk) 13:29, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
- It's kind of like the day you find out about Santa Claus. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 13:37, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
Nach Baliye 7
please dont change edits of Nach Baliye 7 or else actions will be taken. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nachbaliyeofficially (talk • contribs) 13:06, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
i dont understand why do you keep changing the edits of Nach BALIYE 7 i am trying to keep people updated about it and you are cjanging it... do you even watch nach baliye 7?? the information you have edited is wrong about the elimination week and also the wild card entries contestant. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Menuka456 (talk • contribs) 16:38, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker)@Menuka456: TheRedPenOfDoom is not the only editor who reverted your changes. I did as well. Look at how you left the article in this version for example. "The contestant pairs included [6] , included ,[6] ," If you're going to edit an article, you should be sure that it makes some semblance of sense and that it is formatted properly. If you're not sure how to format things like bulleted lists, you should make a request on the article's talk page, or look at other articles to figure out how it's done. The second time you submitted the same changes, you again left the article in a problematic condition. That's why it keeps getting changed back. TheRedPenOfDoom explained that to you in this edit. Familiarity with the series has nothing to do with formatting content cleanly. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:02, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
Reference errors on 11 June
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regarding to your edits at Kriti Sanon
- You added in summary "Filmography: unsourced future event" So until movie is not released it cant be added to filmography of the concerning actors.Prymshbmg (talk) 13:22, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
- @Prymshbmg: it cannot be added without an inline citation to a reliably published source that verifies the subject's participation and that the project has entered the actual filming stage-- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 13:28, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
sorry about that
I misunderstood the sanctions. I was reverting you today in error, my bad. Handpolk (talk) 22:58, 13 June 2015 (UTC)
- @Handpolk: I would hope there is never any issue with an editor removing content from their user page. I am also sorry if it seemed like i was attempting to bait you - i was not thinking. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 01:21, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
Help with editing
Hello, you deleted one of my past pages for copyright infringement; I was wondering if you would take a look at another page I created to see what I can change to make it better for Wikipedia. Thanks! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Corinna.jpg/Para_Site Corinna.jpg (talk) 09:30, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
Motorist
I reverted you at Motorist. The subject has a clear primary topic, and neither of the links listed on the disambiguation page was actually ambiguous with motorist.--Srleffler (talk) 01:26, 16 June 2015 (UTC)
Changes made to The Cultural Competency Organizational Assessment-360 (COA360)
May you please explain why you made the changes that you did? If the information was obtained from clearview360.org, should I put that and is it then verified? CHinds89 (talk) 19:22, 11 June 2015 (UTC)CHinds89
I suppose that makes sense. So if the only topics about this are the main contributors and Johns Hopkins University, then it cannot be trusted since it is not discussed by others? CHinds89 (talk) 19:34, 11 June 2015 (UTC)CHinds89
That makes sense. So then the page will end up getting deleted, won't it? CHinds89 (talk) 19:45, 11 June 2015 (UTC)CHinds89
Alright, I will try to work on that. Thank you very much for your time and help. CHinds89 (talk) 19:57, 11 June 2015 (UTC)CHinds89
Hello, if possible, could you look at the page again? The same issues are listed, but sources were added and the information was greatly cut. Thank you for your time. CHinds89 (talk) 19:10, 16 June 2015 (UTC)CHinds89
odd formatting
The formatting of your addition of the Boston Globe to the source list has odd formatting that stretches off the screen (at least on my computer.) It would be great if you could revisit that. Thanks. Rhoark (talk) 00:18, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
RfC: Religion in infoboxes of nations
There is an RfC that you may be interested in at Template talk:Infobox country#RfC: Religion in infoboxes of nations. Please join us and help us to determine consensus on this issue. --Guy Macon (talk) 13:53, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
Philip Benedict
Clear Demonstration of Bias
You are clearly unfit to be contributing to the gamergate article. You have repeatedly shut down and dismissed productive conversations on the talk page and have consistently made non-constructive contributions.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Enlightened editor (talk • contribs) 09:50, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
- Yes, I do have a bias to represent the mainstream sources and not a harassment group's lame cover story. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 12:27, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
That conversation has run its course, but I invite you to write a less inflammatory closing statement. Rhoark (talk) 13:54, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
- I just read that discussion. While it could be less inflammatory, I doubt it could be less accurate. Chillum 13:57, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
Why are you unnecessarily undoing in this article....? Techiereader (talk) 04:02, 19 June 2015 (UTC)
Diamond Games and flag icons
RPOD, you need to read MOS:ICON in full: flag icons are expressly permitted to be used in international sports results tables to represent the sporting nationality of athletes:
- "They are useful in articles about international sporting events, to show the representative nationality of players (which may differ from their legal nationality). Example: List of WPA World Nine-ball Champions."
The Diamond Games results may be an overuse of flags [13], and there may be a more efficient way to use fewer icons, but the use does not violate MOS:ICON. In fact, the use in the Diamond games article is extremely similar to that in the WPA World Champions list provided as an example by MOS:ICON of a permitted use. Please take your issues to the MOS:ICON talk page, where other knowledgeable editors who understand MOS:ICON will be able to discuss this with you, rather than edit-warring.
Also, please be aware of recent changes to MOS:ICON that have clarified that a single flag in an athlete infobox to represent the national team or sporting nationality of an international athlete is permitted. Thanks. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 14:06, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
Mainstream Scientists Supporting Parapsychology
Hi there, I could help but notice your comment in the history of edits to the parapsychology page asking for a single mainstream scientist who would not regard parapsychology as pseudoscience. Right here we have 100 as published in this mainstream journal: http://journal.frontiersin.org/article/10.3389/fnhum.2014.00017/full. I'd like to call particular attention to the signings by Robert Rosenthal and Huston Smith - big names in academia whom (to my knowledge) have never done psi reseach. Jessica Utts also happens to be the current president of the American Statistical Association. --Annalisa Ventola (Talk | Contribs) 17:07, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
- Funny that even though the Parapsychology Association is a member of AAAS, they didn't manage to get this screed published in Science (magazine). I wonder why that is. jps (talk) 18:38, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
Review Draft Article
Hi TRPoD, I have a small request, if you have a spare few minutes. In response to the challenge set on Jimbo's Talk page, I undertook to create a draft Article on Bonnie Ross, Head of 343 Industries, a notable woman in the video games industry. I have completed a rough draft, and am now seeking advice from experienced Wikipedians on potential improvements. It is only short at this stage, and will not be the best Wikipedia article, but neither do I think it the worst. If you have time, could you please look it over here. Any advice is greatly appreciated. - Ryk72 'c.s.n.s.' 01:11, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
- @Ryk72: Thanks for taking the initiative to start the article and thanks for inviting me, but bios about modern corporate america are not an area i have a particularly great interest in nor do i have access to any particularly useful sources. Good Luck! -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 14:39, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
- Hi TRPoD, Understood & thanks for the reply. - Ryk72 'c.s.n.s.' 20:05, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
Your changes to Hydra effect
This article has been marked with the refimprove and notable templates, but no reason is given. There are 4 references, one of them is to the Harvard National Security Journal. The references include, 3 separate disciplines, 1 peer reviewed journal, 1 non peer reviewed but reputable science magazine. I'm having a little bit of trouble understanding the markings. If the markings are not clarified, I'm going to leave them for a week before removing them. Please leave your comments on Talk:Hydra_effect. BFG (talk) 15:14, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
ANI
FYI Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Challenges with User:TheRedPenOfDoom — Strongjam (talk) 15:52, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
Arbitration Enforcement
I am informing you that I have opened an WP:AE regarding your recent actions on the GG-related pages. The AE is located here: [14]. --MASEM (t) 18:17, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
A cup of tea for you!
You sent me one of these in the wake of the ghastly Gamergate blowup last November, when it was really much needed. Thanks for doing all you've done, let me know how to help. |
- Thank you! After the tea, I have a date with Mel Brooks for some skeet shooting. PULL! -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 21:27, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
Notice that you are now subject to an arbitration enforcement sanction
The following sanction now applies to you:
You are indefinitely topic-banned per the standard Gamergate discretionary sanction, which covers: all edits about, and all pages related to, (a) GamerGate, (b) any gender-related dispute or controversy, (c) people associated with (a) or (b), all broadly construed.
You have been sanctioned for the reasons provided in response to this arbitration enforcement request.
This sanction is imposed in my capacity as an uninvolved administrator under the authority of the Arbitration Committee's decision at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/GamerGate#Final decision and, if applicable, the procedure described at Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Discretionary sanctions. This sanction has been recorded in the log of sanctions. If the sanction includes a ban, please read the banning policy to ensure you understand what this means. If you do not comply with this sanction, you may be blocked for an extended period, by way of enforcement of this sanction—and you may also be made subject to further sanctions.
You may appeal this sanction using the process described here. I recommend that you use the arbitration enforcement appeals template if you wish to submit an appeal to the arbitration enforcement noticeboard. You may also appeal directly to me (on my talk page), before or instead of appealing to the noticeboard. Even if you appeal this sanction, you remain bound by it until you are notified by an uninvolved administrator that the appeal has been successful. You are also free to contact me on my talk page if anything of the above is unclear to you. Zad68
19:07, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
On a personal note, it brings me no joy to do this, but your behavior there has clearly been making the editing environment worse instead of better. Please do continue to edit in other areas that aren't so incendiary. Zad68
19:09, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
- That such an editor has been sanctioned this way disgraces wikipedia. -Roxy the non edible dog™ (resonate) 19:16, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
Beyond disgusted. It takes days to ban obvious SPAs from Wikipedia, and only hours to ban a valued contributor to Wikipedia, done without serious discussion and for acts that, in context, clearly justifiable. This is abusive adminship at its worst, and Wikipedia as a group should be ashamed that people like Zad can even get admin rights. 98.254.202.225 (talk) 02:28, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
In response to your question about modifying talk page comments
@Anarchyte: There is nothing in WP:TPG that suggests you need to replace such a link.
On advice of counsel [15] this should close the conversation.-- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 13:40, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
Tks!
Hi TRPoD! I'm FrB.TG, and I want to thank you for keeping Salman Khan filmography vandalism-free. Keep it up. :) -- FrankBoy CHITCHAT 15:45, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
Your changes to remote viewing ?
Have you tried it ? ThoughtTheory (talk) 17:15, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
- I am looking at you right now!-- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 17:18, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
Dog meat article
Please note you have made 2 reversions on Dog meat. I'm sure you are well aware of WP:3RR. Please go to the talk page and let's get consensus on this rather than edit warring.DrChrissy (talk) 15:43, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
- Could I ask that in the article, rather than removing large chunks of text because you believe a source is not RS, you raise the question about reliability first, e.g. [better source needed] and give editors the chance to find a RS. Thank you.DrChrissy (talk) 12:14, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
Peacock terms (WP:PEACOCK) are referred to indefinite things, like "Raju is the best football player", but for films especially for box office, there are a definite ranks for their performance which is "known" for us from box office auditing sites and reputed sources. So using the term blockbuster for a film is fairly justifiable with more than enough reputed sources.--106.66.138.236 (talk) 15:31, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
Dont revert your best crap
The channel Zindagi is airing old Pakistani shows and it only made for it so please stop rv your best DerevationGive Me Five 13:08, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
- Folks, please stop with the edit-war. Derevation, it looks like you made the original change that's the subject of the current edit-war. Please start a talk page discussion on this and stop the edit-warring. You know how that ends. Might I suggest looking at some other network articles to see how they handle something like this? There are several cable networks that have both original programming and rebroadcast shows from other networks. Asking at Wiki Project Television might also make sense. Ravensfire (talk) 17:53, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
External Links
You recently removed 2 External Links, a Chamber of commerce link, and the Public Library link from the Alva, Oklahoma article, and referenced WP:ELNO. I reviewed that policy for a second time after seeing your edit, and I am not following how either link would be disallowed. Could you elaborate on your edit ? I actually used the Tulsa,Oklahoma article as a guide, since it was an FA. I appreciate any insight that you could shed. Zeugzeug (talk) 17:43, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
Request for Arbitration Enforcement Against You
I am opening a request for enforcement against you at WP:AE per the request there. The request is here. Vordrak (talk) 01:22, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
Edits Regarding Diyar-e-Dil
This is to warn you that stop ruining Diyar-e-Dil, once the same act happened way back hence the page is reviewed all the time with mostly referencing which are specifically picked for wikipedia with reliable information, all the non-reliable information was removed previously thereby leaving reliable ones only. This is not the first time you are doing this but you have been observed in most of the pages. This is the final time that you are warned please stop or you will be reported Sammy.joseph (talk) 12:57, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
Amusement!
Do Not Reply. You will, however, definitely want to visit the sea lion satire page -- you know the one. Your name is in lights, or rather movie posters, today. Day Of The TRPoDs! And more! MarkBernstein (talk) 15:46, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
Diyar-e-Dil edits
Wanted to inform you that Promotional Poster of Diyar-e-Dil with copyrights has license, other image you removed featuring cast and crew is not copyrighted. Secondly please take view on other similar pages like Shehr-e-Zaat etc. and look that they are above such details and never invoked. In conclusion please don't remove these images and please ad the image back to the page featuring its entire cast as its not copyrighted.Sammy.joseph (talk) 23:38, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
Removal of Image on Diyar-e-eDil
Okay now you are just being disruptive! copyrights with licence are allowed on wikipedia so why are you deleting it over and over again? please stop Sammy.joseph (talk) 23:41, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
Ellen Pao
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Although the standard exemptions for BLP apply, I think it would be best if you stayed away from Ellen Pao for anything but obvious BLP violations of the sort that I had to revdel (Godwin's Law applied) as she falls under the "gender-related topics" clause as a consequence of her litigation. Some admins have taken a narrower view than I have of whether an entire article or just a section is off-limits, and that view seems to enjoy some consensus. However, if nothing else your presence allows the IP troll Bishonen blocked to claim justification. I've semi-protected Pao's article for another three months since IP trolling started immediately on release of the previous protection. Acroterion (talk) 15:05, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
- Since when is a standard employment law case "controversial"? - because its filed by a girl ? -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 19:12, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
- A gender discrimination lawsuit seems like a very clear-cut example of a gender-related controversy. I don't think you ought to be banned from all gender-related controversies, but I don't make the rules. Maybe you'd like to sponsor me for WP:RFA. Rhoark (talk) 19:24, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
- There is nothing "controversial" about a gender related employment related law suit- unless you think that women should not be able to sue their employers if they are discriminated against? -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 19:29, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
- A "gender-related lawsuit" would appear to me to fall under "gender-related
topicdispute or controversy." However, since you've stuck to objecting to Breitbart as a source for a BLP, with which few would argue, and to reverting the odd notion that her nationality is somehow "Asian-American," I see no problem based on the way these things are being enforced these days. I'm more interested in denying nutrition to the trolls. Acroterion (talk) 19:48, 3 July 2015 (UTC)- The ridiculously broad arbcom t-ban is " any gender-related dispute or controversy," not the even more ridiculously broad "gender related topic".-- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 20:14, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
- Noted and corrected. Acroterion (talk) 20:20, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
- The ridiculously broad arbcom t-ban is " any gender-related dispute or controversy," not the even more ridiculously broad "gender related topic".-- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 20:14, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
- A "gender-related lawsuit" would appear to me to fall under "gender-related
- There is nothing "controversial" about a gender related employment related law suit- unless you think that women should not be able to sue their employers if they are discriminated against? -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 19:29, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
- A gender discrimination lawsuit seems like a very clear-cut example of a gender-related controversy. I don't think you ought to be banned from all gender-related controversies, but I don't make the rules. Maybe you'd like to sponsor me for WP:RFA. Rhoark (talk) 19:24, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
- ArbCom in its wisdom endowed a snack fund for the trolls; it's tough to ask poor TRPoD to single-handedly malnourish them. I’d like to point out how often people like TRPoD, NBSB, Strongjam, and I have been on the scene to cope with BLP matters like Ellen Pao’s nationality, and how seldom our resident crew of Gamergate supporters have addressed been there. Nor are the majority of these being caught by routine watchers: it's always these familiar editors plus a handful of engaged admins who take a great deal of flack from Gamergate for doing their job. This dynamic ought to be changed, but it beats me how to bring the change about unless and until the community manages to make it unnecessary for people like TRPoD to mop up these continuous messes. MarkBernstein (talk) 20:27, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
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Oh, come on
Where is the treasury of pinnipeds? I wanna see it right before my very eyes! Bishonen | talk 15:55, 3 July 2015 (UTC).
- (Bish -- the backstory here is that someone once posted a similarly satirical link on my talk page, back in the day, and I made the mistake of saying something nice about it while topic-banned and while the whole world was watching. Some day we'll look back on this and it will all seem funny. But now you're sad, your admin’s mad, the Gaters all know that we can be very funny....MarkBernstein (talk) 16:12, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
- Thank you, link appreciated. Bishonen | talk 17:46, 3 July 2015 (UTC).
- (Bish -- the backstory here is that someone once posted a similarly satirical link on my talk page, back in the day, and I made the mistake of saying something nice about it while topic-banned and while the whole world was watching. Some day we'll look back on this and it will all seem funny. But now you're sad, your admin’s mad, the Gaters all know that we can be very funny....MarkBernstein (talk) 16:12, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
- Pinnipeds is, in fact, the Featured Article of the Day. Rhoark (talk) 19:20, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
- That is funny. I wonder who has been coordinating that? -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 01:46, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
For the improvement of of the page
Sant Longowal Institute of engineering &Technology | |
hi this is singhaniket255 i just needed help for improving the site...as.i am.not aware of it ..cozz this is my first time..so i would request you to please help me improving the page "SLIET" that is "Sant longowal institute of engineering and technology" Singhaniket255 (talk) 15:11, 5 July 2015 (UTC) |
A barnstar for you!
The Civility Barnstar | |
Thanks for showing the way to the less enlightened through your highly civilized edits. The enclyopedia would die a premature death without your good-faith edits. You have opened my eyes RedPen, let's hope you open several more. Krimuk|90 (talk) 02:39, 6 July 2015 (UTC) |
Removal of Diyar-e-Dil, Hum TV, Poster
TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom, okay now i have no idea what you are doing I mean first you ask me to obtain proper license for this copyrighted image to be inserted in the production section and when I did that you deleted it! I mean What is wrong here? what do you actually want? i think that I should contact some other user for this copyrighted issue because the way I see it you really want my images to be deleted. How do I even make you people believe that I do not have a Personal problem from you guys, I didn't knew about who you actually are but now that Im aware, Im helping you guys to improve Diyar-e-Dil not soiling it. Please reply to my message. Sammy.joseph (talk) 23:53, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
July 2015
Your recent editing history at Bahamut (Dungeons & Dragons) shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you get reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.
Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.
Consensus was reached for this project ages ago. If you do not understand the project you should focus elsewhere. This is not the "Bahamut" you know. Scr★pIronIV 00:40, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
- User:ScrapIronIV I don't see any edits by TRPOD on that page, please clarify. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 00:49, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
- My apologies; corrected the notice to Bahamut (Dungeons & Dragons). The issue is tag-bombing an article in project space which adheres to project standards. While it is not optimal, forcing the Dungeons and Dragons project to adhere to real-world notability guidelines would effectively destroy the project. Scr★pIronIV 00:56, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
- LOL @ScrapIronIV: projects do not get to ignore policies because "if they followed policy they would not be able to host a free fansite on Wikipedia's dime - WP:Pokémon test spoke to that. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 02:52, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
- And yet, Blastoise still exists. I appreciate your contributions; if you focused on important stuff, you could actually make a difference. Feel free to tilt at windmills if it pleases you. I'm just surprised you stepped away from Gamergate and the dramah boards long enough to read an article. Scr★pIronIV 03:28, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
- @ScrapIronIV: Because Pokemoners were able to supply third party sources, as policy requires. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 04:41, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
- He was topic banned from Gamergate, and rightfully so. --Krimuk|90 (talk) 03:31, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
- And yet, Blastoise still exists. I appreciate your contributions; if you focused on important stuff, you could actually make a difference. Feel free to tilt at windmills if it pleases you. I'm just surprised you stepped away from Gamergate and the dramah boards long enough to read an article. Scr★pIronIV 03:28, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
- LOL @ScrapIronIV: projects do not get to ignore policies because "if they followed policy they would not be able to host a free fansite on Wikipedia's dime - WP:Pokémon test spoke to that. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 02:52, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
- This editor has a history of neglecting consensus and tries to run a one-man show. Barring his removal of spam links from articles, most of his edits are in extreme bad-faith and invariably create a hostile editing environment. --Krimuk|90 (talk) 01:34, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
- Where consensus is based on policy, I follow it. Where "consensus" or claims of consensus are not based on policy, I challenge them. As is the right (and frankly duty) of every editor. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 12:23, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
- This editor, as it happens, has a history of respecting consensus and of insisting that, when consensus and policy together are defied, Wikipedia will respect its pillars and its consensus. MarkBernstein (talk) 17:52, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
PolyEdit does support PDF export
Red, hi. Just noticed that you undid my revision (669420382) that makes clear that PolyEdit does indeed support PDF export, which the unrevised WP article strongly implies PolyEdit does not do. That implication is incorrect. I am a user of PolyEdit Lite and use it, in fact, precisely to make PDFs. The feature works perfectly.
You stated the following as the reason for undoing my revision: "unsourced promotional claim". First, I am the source of the information, a "primary" source: I have personal, direct knowledge of the fact and made explicit in the revision why it is I believe the article's implication is incorrect. I have no need of citing unreliable secondary sources for my revision, such as the "reviewers" unquestioningly cited in the article itself, the ones who made the mistake to begin with by not properly evaluating the software. Second, my revision is not "promotional". It is a factual correction of incorrect information that appears in the original article, not a promotion for the software. This is important: Wikipedia articles must be, first and foremost, accurate. To leave the article with the mistake untouched is a disservice to Wikipedia and its readers. Correction of errors and invalid information constitutes most of my contributions to WP. Third, my revision is not a "claim", an assertion unsupported by facts, but a factual statement that can easily be proved/disproved by downloading the software, which is freely available on the Web, and following my indications on how to obtain the PDF export option, as stated in the revision. A proven (and readily provable by anyone else) assertion is not a mere "claim". The onus falls on those claiming the contrary (the article's unreliable sources [1][2][3]) to show why it is they believe their glaring mistake to be correct.
When I was researching PolyEdit for possible adoption, I read the WP article, of course. On reading that it did not support PDF export, I immediately rejected it. However, I kept running into other reviews that vouched for PDF. So I downloaded the software and checked things out for myself. That very same copy is the one I now routinely use every day, including right now. Having been led astray by the WP article, I'm sure you will appreciate why it is I had to go back to correct it.
I have reinstated the revision in the article. Please feel free to make further revisions if you think they might be required. But please, do not remove the correction about the PDFs. It still smarts to look back and think that I would have missed out on this fine piece of software because of errors in Wikipedia.
— Diego Azeta — Preceding unsigned comment added by Diego Azeta (talk • contribs) 22:39, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
Kasamh Se
Thank you for your recent edits to the Kasamh Se article. I see that excessive plot detail is an ongoing issue with this particular article, should we revisit this issue on the talk page? Regards, Yamaguchi先生 19:11, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
LOBFo2016
This is a provocative argument. These articles are a bitch to maintain. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:59, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
- @Cyphoidbomb: they are a monster to maintain merely on sourcing and content- there shouldn't also be extra maintenance issues from unnecessarily complicated formatting. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 18:03, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
- Oh yeah, I'm with you on this. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:11, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
You tagged Harshita Gaur for speedy deletion under WP:CSD#G4 as a recreation of deleted content. The main concern at the AfD was notability and lack of sources. The current version is not substantially similar to the version deleted by AfD, IMO. That version had no cited sources, this has quite a few. What the outcome of a new AfD would be, I can't say. If you like I will try to confirm my decline of the G4 at WP:DRV. DES (talk) 00:25, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
Baahubali
Looks like you have a strong interest in this film-related article(s). May i know why so? Pavanjandhyala (talk) 04:41, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
- @Pavanjandhyala: I dont particularly care about the film at all. i care about Wikipedia maintaining neutral encyclopedic articles that accurately reflect the reliable sources, and currently Baahubali is the article on my watch list that is most in danger of failing on all of those points due to influx of fanboy editors (surprisingly I am not seeing an influx of flamers which also usually accompanies a big new release). -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 04:47, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
- The promoting guys are in majority always. Well, almost zero flamers is something amusing this time. For the euphoria now, i think the article shall get better i.e. GA/A/FA only after 2017/18. What say? Pavanjandhyala (talk) 05:00, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
- my bet is that after ~ a week, they will be moving from The Beginning to The Conclusion with speculation and hype and claims of how big of a super-duper-ultra-colossal-mega-hit the second part will be. 05:07, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
- Of course. These fanboys are not going to stop their enthusiasm. They can show that at the BO, not here completely. I think you have to stress more on the conclusion (the screenplay reveals that major drama shall be there in the second part only which was supposed to be its second half before splitting into two films). But at least for stability concerns, i think the GA/FA plans shall be put to rest for sometime. Pavanjandhyala (talk) 05:13, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
- my bet is that after ~ a week, they will be moving from The Beginning to The Conclusion with speculation and hype and claims of how big of a super-duper-ultra-colossal-mega-hit the second part will be. 05:07, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
- The promoting guys are in majority always. Well, almost zero flamers is something amusing this time. For the euphoria now, i think the article shall get better i.e. GA/A/FA only after 2017/18. What say? Pavanjandhyala (talk) 05:00, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
Please stop mindlessly deleting posts re: Dave Cornthwaite
Dear TheRedPenOfDoom,
I've already asked you several times to stop deleting posts. It takes a lot of time to research, write content and reference. If you have any suggestions please make them without deleting. I would welcome you to add content also; however, do not keep deleting sections because you do not think they are appropriate; this is subjective and mean.
Many thanks, Chris — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cjsmillar (talk • contribs) 17:29, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
Zindagi (TV channel)
Hello TRPoD,
If Divy(a)95 continues to trouble the article after the protection expires and still refuses to discuss, I suppose I'll have to hand out a block. You know where to find me. Thank you, --ceradon (talk • contribs) 18:18, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
I don't know what you're up to, but don't try to use the word "unsourced" as an excuse to to do whatever you want. You want a source, all separate pages around Wikipedia are the source...if you look closely to find the answer.
Fusionem (talk) 02:35, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
- @Fusionem: You can't use Wikipedia pages as a source for other Wikipedia pages. I strongly advise that you don't use that as a reason to revert so much of what somebody else has done. PeterTheFourth (talk) 02:46, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) Fusionem We also don't expect readers to chase references all around the project. They should be presented in-line, after the content they support, so that they will appear that bottom of the article and a reader can quickly access it. Also, TVTropes would never be considered a reliable source as it, like IMDb, Wikia, TV.com, and even Wikipedia itself are not considered reliable sources, because they are all user-contributed. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 04:04, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
- Then instead of criticize me and disparage what I had to do, each one of you should copy the unsourced information in the page and keep it inside your own sandbox before deleting that...of course, until you find the worthy sources you ask for. Because I know that even if I knew how to add references, you would never allow it, OK? Problem solved. Everyone happy. Fusionem (talk) 05:25, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
- Fusionem, I understand that it's not fun to have content you've submitted be reverted. It's not a personal attack on you. This is a community encyclopedia and sometimes stuff changes fast. The content hasn't been removed entirely from Wikipedia, you can copy it yourself to your own sandbox and let it stew until you can find some sources to support it. We are in no hurry. If you're not sure how to add references, that's an easy fix: there's information at Referencing for Beginners and there is a built-in citation tool in your editing window. When you click edit, you'll see the word "Cite" at the top right of the light-blue toolbar. Select a template, fill in the blanks and voila! Hope that helps. Please don't take it personally. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 05:48, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
My Humble Request
Please don't revert my edits especially from Awards Section of the article Kasamh Se. I am trying to make the article more concise and I have even provided reliable sources wherever necessary. Besides there are many articles where Plot Summary exceeds your so called prescribed word limit and also there are no references. If you just take a look at them only then you will know. If you are giving this much attention to article Kasamh Se, then you should give your special attention to all other such articles. One such article is Saat Phere - Saloni Ka Safar. Please, don't unnecessarily remove my edits. Also I have been editing wikipedia since last three years. I know very well what a wikipedia article must look like. 15 July 2015, 12:47 AM IST. I am not adding any unsourced content. Stop reverting my edits. It is a sheer vandalism. Wherever sources have not been provided, citation needed tag has been fixed. Why don't you look in my above mentioned article. I know what I am inserting are only reliable sources. And if you find the source unreliable, simply add citation needed after it. Those who can find better sources can add them. Why are you simply removing the edits ?
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 14.98.226.45 (talk) 19:18, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
Just a heads up...
Hey, just a heads up... I happened to come across this user when scrolling through my watchlist: User:TheNEWredPenof Doom. Could it be this user? I've gone ahead and notified User:Salvio giuliano, the blocking admin. Corkythehornetfan 09:24, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks! Most of the impersonations end up being editors in the Indian entertainment area so the TheNEWredPenofDoom editing in North Dakota University is odd. There were a whole bunch of socks editing Canadian law school articles which if I remember extended to NDU Law school so NEW might be related to that mess, but I dont have any real smoking gun evidence to make any connections.-- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 12:21, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
- Wow! You're a popular person, I see... people just want to be like you! Corkythehornetfan 23:38, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
Could you help me?
Dear @TheRedPenOfDoom:,
I will share the articles that I want to edit with you before saving the changes. Could you help me check if I have made mistakes in the style and formatting?
Kitty terry
Dear Sir How do I or what is it they want links to proof? Wikipedia site links don't work A lot of the records I sang on are on wikipedia Those links won't do? Where else what sources do they approve? For documentation Discogs has my records for sale with all info Sites that list all my movie projects I worked on have crew lists posted I found links on eBay to albums I sang on I am confused I keep missing people off I don't mean to If you could help I have a lot of good videos on YouTube Kitty Terry 270,000 hits I need to add Star Search would I add the link to YouTube for verification I really need your help Why is everyone so grouchy? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kitty Terry aka Kitty Woodson Terry (talk • contribs)
Thanks
I appreciate the tip about WP:OVERSIGHT. I wasn't aware of that. Eddie Blick (talk) 12:57, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
Westford Knight
Nothing really to be added on this. I'm in discussion with someone who is doing a bit of a timeline, and asked Ken Feder about it (no reply yet) but so far as I know this is pretty much ignored. The one guy who started to do something never finished it. Doug Weller (talk) 13:11, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
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Keith Curran
I already found and added a source in which he's directly quoted as calling himself an "angry homosexual" (though obviously I paraphrased.) Bearcat (talk) 17:56, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
baahubali
As someone mentioned above I can't understand why you are so much interested in movies. In this case I would like to talk about Baahubali movie I always see you modify it from Telugu to Telugu/Tamil in the list of highest grossing-Indian movies although it is primarily a pure Telugu movie which is also made in Tamil with few scenes and shots. Also every time I see you modify & include Baahubali movie in the list of highest grossing Tamil films. Baahubali movie didn't even gross around 45 crores in Tn & Tamil version. It grossed around Rs 170 crores(Telugu version) in Ap/n & Kar States and Rs 45 crore in international markets from Telugu version alone totaling nearly Rs 215 crores and the dubbed Hindi version and malayalam version grossed nearly 95 crores (both from Telugu). How could you include it in the list of highest grossing Tamil films list. First time I'm seeing that a movie which didn't even gross at least Rs 50 crore (leave about share) in original language(Tamil) from both domestic and international markets which is very less in number, is being included in the list of highest grossing Tamil films. Its absolutely ridiculous. How could you do that? So I kindly request you to modify changes accordingly and remove the movie Baahubali from the list of highest grossing Tamil films. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Padukati raju (talk • contribs) 19:53, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
Highest grossing Indian Tamil flim
Thuppakki world gross box office collections is 125 crore
Pawan Kumar babu (talk) 20:26, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
Reporting an User's poor article's
Hello TheRedPenOfDoom,
I studied lot of Wikipedia rules, through your Wikipedia edits. I'm very much thank for the same. Today I seen one article creator who creates about 16 articles that may not meet Wikipedia's general notability guideline, he included references may not meet according to the Wikipedia guideline . So is it against the rules of Wikipedia? his username is JithDominicJose04 , please go through the articles created by him, he is creating articles for every unknown persons. It's against the rules, isn't it? So can you please tell me whether I was mistaken or not? Josu4u (talk) 17:33, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
Hotbed!
M'man, if anyone were to ask me what I consider to be the center of Wikipedia, the ground zero of all activity at the project, I'd have to say it's your talk page, because I get more leads on crazy stuff here that radiates outward across the entire project than anywhere else! I just addressed a help request and dammit, it involved you! Wow! You've carved out a really crazy niche... Have a good weekend, sir. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 02:36, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
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Stop removing information
Stop removing information from the Mahabharat (2013 TV series) Wikipedia page. There was a source present. If you do it again you will be reported! (121.219.13.43 (talk) 10:44, 26 July 2015 (UTC))
let me In
Please let me in to edit highest grossing Indian movies actually I'm posting imformation as per internet imformation — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ak-Akhil (talk • contribs)
- @Ak-Akhil: when you make major changes to the article as you did [16] under the misleading edit summary "fixed typo", people are unlikely to believe other claims that you make. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 12:39, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
Baahubali box office
why are you including Baahubali in the list of highest grossing Tamil films you are saying it as a bilingual then why are you including Telugu version box office collections in the list of Tamil movies. Entire Tamil version from India and the rest of the world grossed only 55 crores out of 401 crores and the rest 355 crores is from Telugu version alone (235 crores) including Hindi and Malayalam (120 crores) dubbed versions itself. So you should remove it from Tamil list. All the official trade sources rentrak india , taran adarsh, trinath, ramesh laus ( Tamil trade analyst) said Tamil version from entire world grossed 55 crores in 15 days, sreedar pillai said the total box office collections - padukati raju — Preceding unsigned comment added by Padukati raju (talk • contribs)
- @Padukati raju: We are including it in Tamil and Telugu because it is a bilingual film made in Tamil and Telugu. Pretty simple. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 18:24, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
iam asking one thing why are you adding Telugu version in Tamil list you are mentioning it is bilingual then Tamil list should have only Tamil version box office why are you including Telugu version in it. it is not a dubbed movie so both languages should have their own collections each. No movie in the world will be listed in two languages of highest grossing films. Also it is primarily a Telugu movie which has no Tamil connect to it.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Padukati raju (talk • contribs)
iam asking one thing why are you adding Telugu version in Tamil list you are mentioning it is bilingual then Tamil list should have only Tamil version box office why are you including Telugu version in it. it is not a dubbed movie so both languages should have their own collections each. No movie in the world will be listed in two languages of highest grossing films. Also it is primarily a Telugu movie which has no Tamil connect to it. - padukati raju — Preceding unsigned comment added by Padukati raju (talk • contribs)
- @Padukati raju:You have been told multiple times. The reliable sources clearly indicate that it is a bilingual film shot in both Tamil and Telugu. We will follow the reliable sources and present it as a bilingual film shot in Tamil and Telugu. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 18:41, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
change of position of highest grossing lists
I request you to place highest grossing Telugu movies list after Hindi movies list. - padukati raju — Preceding unsigned comment added by Padukati raju (talk • contribs)
- It is after Hindi and after Tamil as the languages are listed in alphabetical order. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 19:19, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
No no Telugu movie grossed highest after the Hindi industry. so change according to that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Padukati raju (talk • contribs)
- make a request on the talk page to see if there is consensus for order by highest gross rather than by alpha. I strongly doubt it. (and please learn to sign your posts appropriately) -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 19:24, 26 July 2015 (UTC)