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Removing Speedy at Ghigau

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Meaning of Agigaue

I did a search on Agigaue + Cherokee and many of the results also state that Agigaue is "Beloved woman" including Texas Cherokees (toward the bottom) and Chickamauga Wars (1776–1794) "War woman" is hinted at but does not seem to be an equivalence. Would you please explain a bit? Thank you Jim1138 (talk) 04:55, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Ghigau

Hi, The article that you began on Ghigau looks pretty interesting. I was going to do some copy editing to help resolve some of the tags that got assigned by the automated editing program, but I'm a bit lost. I'm trying to sort out what the article is about:

• The concept of a Ghigau and what that means in the Cherokee culture.
• The story of Nancy Ward.
• A college scholarship.
• Camp Ghigau

Since the title of the article is Ghigau, I would assume it's the first item, but I'm just checking in on that. And, that actually sounds like an incredible topic!

I'm going to take a crack at editing some of the material and look forward to hearing from you.--CaroleHenson (talk) 11:45, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

Hi, I think Ive finally figured out how to respond to your comment. I am very new to Wikipedia. I really don't mind anyone helping me on this topic. The main topic is the Cherokee word Ghigau and what it means to Cherokees, past and present. Some minor facts have been changed by others that shouldn't be. Such as the word Adageyudi, according to Greg Howard this word is "beloved woman" but other online dictionaries say it means simply "beloved". also in raven hails book "Cherokee Astrology" She says Ghigau literally means "The red woman" Which makes since, Since the word for red is gigage or agigage. Thanks very much for your interest in Cherokee culture and I hope you can help with some of these issues.

Great, I love this article. I had it in one of my storytelling books, which I think I loaned out to a friend - so it's fun to see it! I fixed the sentence for the word Adageyudi so that it contains both meanings. That way we're presenting the full picture.

Since the information about "red woman" is not in the two citations where it was inserted, I went ahead and pulled that out and added the "citation needed" template.

There are some additional things that need to be resolved:

• The copy-paste text about Nancy Ward needs to be reworded so that it's not a copyright violation. Since there's another article about her, it can be rewritten to get to the most salient points that you'd like to make about what made Nancy Ward a Ghigau.
• The topics about the camp and the scholarship are not really germaine to the article about Ghigau and really should be in other articles that are either specific to their topic or included in a related topic. I suggest that this information is removed and moved to other articles. If you need it, I can find the guidelines for not having multiple topics included in a single article. --CaroleHenson (talk) 18:13, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

By the way, I went ahead and added the citation for Raven Hail's book. Generally, e-Books are not considered the best sources of information for wikipedia articles, but I think it's ok here since it's really a side note and not key information for the article. In this world of consensus writing according to guidelines, someone may come back and disagree and cite the guideline, but I think it's not highly likely in this case.--CaroleHenson (talk) 18:21, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

I went ahead a tried an idea to keep Camp Ghigau and the scholarship - but added Ghigau inspired programs and not having them as main headings. Again, someone may dispute it, but it's worth a try. I also added a secondardy source for Camp Ghigau - the Camp Ghigau site is a primary source of information). See Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources.

The only thing that remains is rewording the information about Nancy Ward. Do you want to do that?--CaroleHenson (talk) 18:48, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

Thank you very much. I think you have cleaned this article up nicly. I will try to clean up the section on Nancy Ward when I get a chance. Unless someone beats me to it. Thanks again. P.S. Not that it matters much but Raven Hails book is a published work that is respected among the cherokee comunity.

Oh, thanks, that's good to know. Happy editing!--CaroleHenson (talk) 23:25, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

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Proposed deletion of Cherokee calendar

The article Cherokee calendar has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

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Please stop. Articles on Wikipedia do not give fringe material equal weight to majority viewpoints; content in articles are given representation in proportion to their prominence. If you continue in this manner, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. --Orange Mike | Talk 17:51, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

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