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Anne-Marie Trevelyan home address

I removed the link to Anne-Marie's home address from the page, as it is a clear security risk to her children. It is perfectly possible to outline who her husband is without posting a link to her home. She has received death threats in the past and is concerned not to advertise where she lives in order to safeguard her children. — Preceding unsigned comment added by EJ1904 (talk • contribs) 16:41, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

Please discuss on the article talk page. Her address is published all over the internet, it is no secret, the Wikipedia article doesn't even suggest it is her address? Theroadislong (talk) 16:46, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

Regarding the title of WASPI (Women Against State Pension Inequality)

Hi! Thanks for accepting the creation of the WASPI (Women Against State Pension Inequality) article. I wasn't the initial creator of the AfC so I didn't play any part in its existing name. However, after looking at the format for existing articles about political advocacy groups, I noticed that the title of these types of article tends to be the group's full name with no abbreviations (i.e. Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament or Campaign Against Arms Trade). To fit this pattern, I thought it might make most sense to re-name the article to 'Women Against State Pension Inequality'. I would have brought this up on the talk page, but since the article is so new, I thought it might be best to consult you. Maesterial (talk) 18:15, 12 July 2017 (UTC)

I've done that, it seems like a better title, thank you. Theroadislong (talk) 18:38, 12 July 2017 (UTC)

Thank you

Hi, Theroadislong, thank you for reviewing my Draft:Savages and letting me know about the final result of it (that it was declined). I initially intended to make a template for Savages, not a page and I just found out the exact way how to create it by the time that draft was already on the waiting list.

Regards,

-Chyntiaar (talk) 08:40, 13 July 2017 (UTC)

Lynnie Godfrey submission

Thanks so much for your feedback -- I'm (obviously) new to this. I am not Lynnie Godfrey -- she is a performer that I have worked with, and felt her biography was worthy of submission, given her Broadway and extensive television credentials. She is listed on Wikipedia under several topics, but does not have a page. I'll be reworking the submission, with better references, as mentioned and re-submitting. LynnieGodfrey (talk) 14:16, 13 July 2017 (UTC)

You will need to change your username ASAP please see Wikipedia:Changing username You are not permitted to use the name of a real person unless it is your own of course. Theroadislong (talk) 14:55, 13 July 2017 (UTC)

Bullfrog Power page edits

Hello Theroadislong, I see that you reverted my edits to Bullfrog Power's wikipedia page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullfrog_Power). The edits I made were to update out of date information and to provide legitimate sources for information on the company. I listed myself on the talk page has having a connection to the company as an employee. Is there an issue with the substance of the changes? Or, would it be possible to find out how I can legitimately update the page with factually correct information in accordance with the guidelines? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Jmckaybullfrog (talk) 15:45, 13 July 2017 (UTC)

Your edit added external links to the body of the article, Wikipedia doesn't use them. The content was overtly promotional and mostly sourced from your own website. Please read WP:42. In short: Wikipedia has essentially no interest in anything that a subject says or wants to say about itself: it is only interested in what people who have no connection with the subject have published about it, in reliable places. You are welcome to suggest any changes on the talk page of the article but as you have a clear conflict of interest I would advise you not to edit the article directly. Theroadislong (talk) 16:07, 13 July 2017 (UTC)

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Qestion about edits on Smith & Williamson

Hello! Thanks for your message.

I'm new to Wikipedia so please bear with me if i'm asking obvious questions.

Could you clarify your objections to the edits I made so that I can try again? I didn't consider it to be promotional and merely stated facts about the company and what it does, but it may have been a couple of uses of words such as 'leading' and 'significant'. Would it help if I removed any language like this?

I also disclosed my conflict of interest as someone connected to the company and put the article forward for review on that basis (at least, I think I did, hopefully I did it correctly but my apologies if not!)

Many thanks for your help

C.Rums87 (talk) 11:36, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

Your edit removed maintenance templates, removed references and correctly referenced material and replaced it with promotional content sourced to their own website and written in a promotional manner. You have not declared your [[WP:COI|conflict of interest on your user page or the article page. This is why I reverted your edit. you are welcome to suggest changes on the article talk page. Theroadislong (talk) 14:21, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

Ah, I see, thank you for clarifying! I thought I had declared my conflict of interest - I've obviously not used the template correctly. I will suggest changes on the article talk page - again, I'm new to this, so thank you for your help! — Preceding unsigned comment added by C.Rums87 (talk • contribs) 08:17, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

Review my submission - Assetz Property Group

Hi,

I have updated my article as per wiki guidelines. It would be great if you can review my draft again. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Assetz_Property_Group

Jogideep (talk) 12:36, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

Sandhills Publishing Company

Since the time that the COI tag was originally added, the content on the page has been completely overhauled if you look back at edits. Nearly all content added by editors with declared COI has been replaced. I'm not sure how to challenge the newly added COI tag other than to remove it under the pretense that the issue has been addressed and it no longer applies. Can you be more specific about the current info on the page that you feel has been added by a COI editor? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Info editor11 (talk • contribs) 14:22, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

There have been at least 7 conflict of interest editors including yourself, if you were to stop editing the article and only make suggestions on the talk page then the template could be removed. Theroadislong (talk) 14:31, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

Thank you

I really appreciate your accepting my article page on Carlo Pittore. I have created articles before without posting a request; but this particular article was brought into question for what I now consider inexcusable sloppiness and poor editing on my behalf. It was called out by another editor (and rightly so); and gave me a better direction to re-create the article correctly. I wanted to submit the article so that an experienced editor such as yourself could review it with the proper WP standards at hand just to see if I was indeed on the right track. Thank you, again. It gives me hope in my continued journey toward proper editing here at WP. Best. Maineartists (talk) 21:07, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

I would like permission to change information about myself

Good morning, I would like to edit the Wikipedia page about myself, William Hung.

There is too much incorrect information and I'm a public figure.

Thanks, William — Preceding unsigned comment added by WHungSpeaks (talk • contribs) 12:51, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

I have no way of knowing who you are and I have no powers to give you permission to edit the page about you. You appear to have already correctley requested a number of suggested edits on the talk page which have not been actioed because you haven't supplied any sources. Theroadislong (talk) 12:57, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

Regarding changes for my bio on Wikipedia

What kind of independent sources do I need to prove that my birthday is 11/10/1982?

Birth certificate? Passport?

No. We need a reliable, independent published source. Theroadislong (talk) 16:56, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

Request on 13:52:57, 25 July 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by AmaranthMiscat

• AmaranthMiscat (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Katya Szewczuk (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi. I'm the user who wrote about the YouTuber (Miscat Squad). This is my first time using Wikipedia and I hope to start writing about upcoming YouTubers. I need a ton of help with my article it's titled Draft: Katya Szewczuk. Are there any specific links I need to add? Or should I not include her production work with other entities? Not sure how this works. Let me know.

-AM

AmaranthMiscat (talk) 13:52, 25 July 2017 (UTC)

As I commented on your submission, Wikipedia is only interested in what people who have no connection with the subject have published about her in reliable places. You need to establish notability by adding references that show there is widespread in depth coverage of them in reliable sources independent of them. Your sources so far are only primary ones. Theroadislong (talk) 14:00, 25 July 2017 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) "Up and coming" (not upcoming'; the latter is an illiteracy) people have no place here. Wikipedia is a place for articles about persons who have already become notable.

COI tag

Please remove the COI tag on the Sandhills Publishing page in light of the edits you recently made to remove statements identified as puffery.

I would be happy to remove the template once it was clear that conflict of interest editors had ceased editing the article. Theroadislong (talk) 17:38, 28 July 2017 (UTC)

Garage Sale Documentary

Hello, I'm still not clear as to why you slapped down my the page. I don't understand out you could give the page a full review in 30 seconds. If you can answer my questions that would be helpful.

Thankyou,

-April — Preceding unsigned comment added by April Shenkman (talk • contribs) 20:08, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

I’m not sure why you think I spent 30 seconds reviewing your article? When I reviewed Draft:Garage Sale Documentary the submission read like an advertisement and had a number of IMDb sources which are not reliable sources. You have removed the unreliable sources, thank you, but the content still reads like an advert terms like “ inimitable comedian” are not encyclopaedic. Another user User:SwisterTwister has since declined the article for a second time on the grounds of notability. Theroadislong (talk) 20:24, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

Swallow Reef

Regarding: This is NOT an advert for the resort though it reads like one. I agree! (Though perhaps unnecessarily leaving the ref behind would have left people like me trying to find justification to get there. (And it's so much cheaper than the Great Barrier Reef ... ) ) Cheers, and thanks for your support, Pdfpdf (talk) 15:28, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

Are you ready to take responsibility ?

Veritaseum is a scam, and it is currently investigated by the SEC, are you ready to take responsibility? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Veritaseumisscam (talk • contribs) 09:39, 2 August 2017 (UTC)

Draft:Nichole Evelyn West

I don't understand why my page keeps getting deleted. There is only a sentence on the topic and I haven't even put any of the information into the page. It keeps getting deleted even though it's either blank or almost entirely empty. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sweetleafjackcaitlyn (talk • contribs) 20:05, 2 August 2017 (UTC)

your article has been moved to draft so will not be deleted now, you can work on finding in-depth coverage in reliable sources. Theroadislong (talk) 20:12, 2 August 2017 (UTC)

Personal attack comment

Dear User, It is usually said that attack the content, not the user. Then why should the users comment on the content in the first place, even though the content is logical and makes sense? Why are you guys against the first timers on Wikipedia? It's an open forum, right? Anybody can edit the content, right? Then only one thing can be concluded. Most of the users are discriminatory.

Drvineetvk (talk) 09:24, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

Your content was removed quite correctly, Wikipedia is not the place to promote your own work. Theroadislong (talk) 09:30, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

G4 speedy tag

Apparently you tagged Journey Juju Brener with a {{db-g4}} tag (I surmise from this edit to the article creator's talk page). I would argue that this was an inappropriate tag. Although there was a prior AFD for this page, the page was speedily deleted without a proper discussion, so WP:CSD#G4 doesn't really apply in this case. (Certainly other criteria, such as WP:CSD#A7 may have applied, but given Brener's already lengthy credits, that could be argued.) WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 12:39, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

Ok... but how could I know that it was an inappropriate tag? WP:CSD#G4 doesn't mention this? Theroadislong (talk) 17:26, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

Finally Fixed

Okay I am pretty sure that I have fixed the references so can you review the article again? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:David_Graham — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jon698 (talk • contribs) 15:20, 5 August 2017 (UTC)

Stop

Attacking all my edits.Thanks!I don't need a tutor!Benniejets (talk) 21:23, 5 August 2017 (UTC)

Your content is very poorly written, and very poorly sourced, blogs are not considered reliable sources. Theroadislong (talk) 21:25, 5 August 2017 (UTC)

Set here the blog you cite!Benniejets (talk) 21:27, 5 August 2017 (UTC)

This blog http://sulatestagiannilannes.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/italia-segreta-una-centrale-nucleare.html Theroadislong (talk) 21:28, 5 August 2017 (UTC)

It has been removedWhatelse?Benniejets (talk) 21:29, 5 August 2017 (UTC)

and this blog http://archivio.notizie.tiscali.it/articoli/politica/08/22/cossiga_atomica_in_italia_123.html?redirect=true Theroadislong (talk) 21:30, 5 August 2017 (UTC)

this is an interview to the Italian President by a news and telecommunication company.So?Benniejets (talk) 21:32, 5 August 2017 (UTC)

The content was virtually unintelligible and you did not remove the poor blog reference. Theroadislong (talk) 21:56, 5 August 2017 (UTC)

About Facebook blueprint

Hi there The article Facebook Blueprint https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facebook_Blueprint is an e learning platform of facebook. it is not promotional. So please help to improve this one. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mayur Bhatt Shiv (talk • contribs) 12:30, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

I'm afraid it is entirely promotional and also unreferenced. Theroadislong (talk) 12:32, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

Article about facebook blueprint

The article Facebook blue print is referred but it s available on Spanish Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facebook_Blueprint Hindi Wikipedia and also on Gujarati Wikipedia you can check it — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mayur Bhatt Shiv (talk • contribs) 12:39, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

Other language Wikipedias have lower thresholds for notability, but your article was deleted because it was entirely promotional in tone. I suggest you use WP:AFC to draft an article. Theroadislong (talk) 12:46, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

Asking People or "Suggesting" People Leave Wikipedia?

Hello. I noticed in the Teahouse you posted a suggestion:

• Then I would respectfully suggest that you leave as you are not here to build an encyclopedia. Theroadislong (talk) 13:38, 5 August 2017 (UTC)

You assumed another user was not "here to build an encyclopedia." You suggested the person "leave." Was this entirely necessary? The topic of the person's issue had nothing to do with editing. Nothing to do with "building an encyclopedia." Yes, in this respect the person wasn't here, building anything. The person's query was an issue with access, with viewing Wikipedia. You actually asked a person to leave Wikipedia over an issue that had nothing to do with editing. I don't see your perspective. I would be suggestive to you, in turn, to instead, welcome people to use Wikipedia, with prudence and alacrity, rather than suggest the person leaves. Hope this helps. B'H.
MichaelAngelo7777 (talk) 17:05, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

You are correct of course, thank you. But remember, Wikipedia is NOT CENSORED. Theroadislong (talk) 18:21, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

Having followed the discussion I would submit that it was about more than accessing Wikipedia but also about a philosophical clash between cultures and the possibility that Wikipedia is incompatible with the user's culture and or religion. Saying it was just about access is an oversimplification. 331dot (talk) 19:17, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

@Theroadislong: the fact that Wikipedia isn't censored is not justification for asking people to leave Wikipedia. Even if a person was actively editing out content in the interest of censoring Wikipedia, I do suppose that the person would be warned and perhaps frozen from editing temporarily. The situation would not call for you, nor anyone, to kick the person out of Wikipedia, nor even so much as suggest that the person leave. In any case, this has nothing to do with what you were addressing in Teahouse. You were responding to an entirely different topic, not having to do with censorship. The user was asking a simple question, in an utterly unhostile manner, you responded in what may easily be construed as inhospitable at least, and possibly hostile, at worst. You should apologize. B'H.
MichaelAngelo7777 (talk) 19:29, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

I apologise unreservedly... I am a grumpy old liberal. Theroadislong (talk) 19:34, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

Saint Gobain

Hi!

You left me a message about my edit of Saint Gobain page. To be honest I'm not sure why it was classified as 'puffery spam'. Sure - links to corporate pages may not be greatest source of information, but as mentioned events took place in 1990 - there is probably the only source of information on the internet.

If those sources are low quality - sure I can remove it, but I suppose cutting whole paragraph is too much - Abrasives division is one of the largest part of this company and it's not mentioned on wikipedia.

Disclaimer: I am not an employee of Saint Gobain and I do not work for then in any way.

best regards

Mike — Preceding unsigned comment added by Scieramy (talk • contribs) 08:32, 13 August 2017 (UTC)

Your edit added content from a website with the same name as your user name this implies a connection which is called spamming. Theroadislong (talk) 09:10, 13 August 2017 (UTC)

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Thank you!

I appreciate the speedy response and will comb through the article to make sure there is no copyright infringement. I hope with the new adjustments I can submit it and it gets published. How long does the process take normally if it goes well? — Preceding unsigned comment added by JendayiLareine8 (talk • contribs) 21:23, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

Cimic House

Citation added. I was part of that battle and it missed a fundamental chunk of the August event which I've added. It is also 'Welch' not 'Welsh' in my regiment's name (as it was in 2004). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Agneale (talk • contribs) 14:35, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, which summarises what independent sources have published about subjects and has essentially no interest in what anybody says or wants to say about themselves or their company, on Wikipedia we need reliable sources independent of the subject. Theroadislong (talk) 15:03, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

Cimic House

You're being very difficult - the aim of Wikipedia is to collaborate to improve the quality of each article. The same information is contained in Dusty Warriors - an authorised history of events. I will cite that instead but don't get why you are being so precious. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Agneale (talk • contribs) 15:36, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

I am attempting to add references, but I need a few minutes to get my bearings. I have declared on both my page and the article that I am being paid to make these change, so it is my understanding that I can make changes. I initially had the document in drafts so that I could make change and look to see if I made them correctly. Also,I do not see how the education of someone claiming to be an MD and Scientist is puffery...In fact I believe it is very much needed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by KAustin (talk • contribs) 21:58, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

Page issue on Jason Innocent

There a page issue on Jason Innocent — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:2000:8119:A900:DFC:15F1:C634:B35E (talk) 21:22, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

Hi, I am trying to find as many sources as possible to reference the work and biography of Knoel Scott and I noticed you reverted some of my entries to previous versions. I am new to the process and I don't understand your comments on the history. I also spent the whole day to add details of his discography, which is quite extensive, researching the original albums and linking them to sites where Knoel appears on the credits. I am not sure what I have done wrong but the whole section was removed. Where was my mistake? Can you help me a bit? Really struggling with it Many Thanks Francesco Tonetrade (talk) 17:47, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

As I explained, Wikipedia doesn't use external links in the body of an article, you also have a conflict of interest so you should not be editing the article directly but suggesting changes on the talk page. Theroadislong (talk) 19:59, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion declined: May Pagasa

Hello Theroadislong. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of May Pagasa, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: page title is a plausible redirect. Thank you. —Kusma (t·c) 08:51, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

Terra Sylvestris article

Hello I made an article about the non govermental organization Terra Sylvestris and I recently tried to edit it so that I may resubmit it but the article was deleted by a user in wikipedia, I did not expect this to happen, can you retrieve it for me

thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Theokarfak (talk • contribs) 19:49, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

You will have to contact the admin who deleted your article. Theroadislong (talk) 19:52, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

sandbox/SunRype Cider

There is a long list of Cider Brands here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cider_brands Parameter to be added to the list is to have an article on the cider brand. I looked at the articles and they talk about content, alcohol content and brand appearance. That's what I put in the article. It's actually one of the very few ciders made in British Columbia and the cider brand page could really use some Canadian content as it's a heavily biased to the Brits. Apples grow in other parts of the world and cider is produced in other parts of the world. Please advise on what is not appropriate in the article and I am happy to tweak it? Sonyasab (talk) 07:36, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

The cider has been produced since April this year it is NOT notable, the entire article is promotional. Wikipedia requires multiple in-depth coverage of the subject in independent reliable sources. Theroadislong (talk) 07:45, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

GNA University promo edits and possible socking

Looking at the GNA history, I'm starting to think they are all the same person. I'm talking about the tell-tale signs. If you would care to dig a little and tell me what you think, that would be great. If you haven't the time or interest, that is okay too. An email or simple yes or no here would be good so as not to reveal anything specific.

• Gnauniversityphagwara (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
• Gnagroup official (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
• Manik.sarna (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
• Mgyani (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)

Best,

Anna Frodesiak (talk) 08:04, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

Yes! Theroadislong (talk) 10:00, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

Okay. Sorry about the link problem above. Now fixed. I am a bit busy off-wiki, but will try to gather enough evidence. Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 08:36, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

I just don't see anything compelling enough to convince a check user. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 20:38, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

The only account in that list that is not yet blocked appears to be User:Mgyani. One of his edits at Jalandhar was to add an image created by User:Manik.sarna who is blocked on suspicion of being a paid editor. Mgyani created his account on July 20, while Manik.sarna was indef blocked on July 10. This might be enough for a checkuser. Can't say I would do a DUCK block myself. EdJohnston (talk) 03:28, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

Some bubble tea for you!

I hereby award you with this delicious bubble tea for your commentary on a recent article I submitted for review (OpenBuilds). Though you had to reject the submission request due to a lack of independent references, I took your comments to heart and have since edited my article draft with 7-8 additional independent references and would greatly appreciate it if you could/would look over my draft again and offer me any additional advice if I am interested in resubmitting after this revision. Thoughts regarding would be greatly appreciated!! Langley242 (talk) 20:21, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

OK. Theroadislong (talk) 20:34, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

International Federation of Interior Architects/Designers

Hey Theroadislong,

You caught me at a bad time. I actually was fixing the page from the previous edits that were cleared by Mean as Mustard. He told me what I was doing wrong and how to correct it. I was just undoing the previous edit he made and fixing the information. Sorry if I was taking long I was putting in the references. I should Have saved it more often so you would have been abe to see. Is it ok if I undo your edit and continue with what I was doing?

Also is there a way for me to put up a "hey I know my page is too promotional and I am fixing it as we speak so please do not erase my work" sign? lol MB717 (talk) 19:57, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

The content you were adding is entirely promotional in nature, adding references will not help. Wikipedia is written in a dispassionate neutral tone using reliable independent sources. Theroadislong (talk) 19:59, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

Ok, may I have one more shot at it? I have a feeling I can get it right this time around. I will even make sure to run it by you if that is alright with you? MB717 (talk) 20:09, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

Alright I am going to take another shot at it and be complete heartless and monotone with all the text. If I may have till mid day tomorrow I can get back to you with all the edits and hopefully you approve! MB717 (talk) 20:33, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

Never mind I am making a draft first! I will show you it when I am done. MB717 (talk) 20:57, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

edits OK for Louis Reingold article?

Hi, Theroadislong, I am checking to see if my most recent edits were OK. I received a message from you on August 25, 2017, that said "Comment: please remove all external links from the body of the article or convert to references where appropriate Theroadislong (talk) 15:58, 25 August 2017 (UTC)". I made some changes based on this and now I am wondering if there is anything else I need to do to fix this. Or is the article now being edited for content at this point? This is my first Wikipedia article so I am not familiar with the process. Thanks for your help! Best wishes, Amanda Seigel Librarian Dorot Jewish Division, New York Public Library

16:14:37, 30 August 2017 review of submission by Langley242

• Langley242 (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:OpenBuilds (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi there! Would you mind taking another peek at my article submission? I have added in some more independent sources and done some more work. Please let me know your thoughts! Langley242 (talk) 16:14, 30 August 2017 (UTC)

The section called "Presence on YouTube" should probably go and these are not reliable sources

• http://wiki.farmbot.org/parts/structural/v-slot-aluminum-extrusions
• https://www.youtube.com/user/OpenBuilds
• https://hackaday.com/tag/cnc-software/
• http://justinwilcott.com/disney-channel-micro-content-drive-in/

I'll leave it for someone else to review this time. Theroadislong (talk) 16:40, 30 August 2017 (UTC)

Ezidkhan

I'm not sure this is of interest to you, and I'm also not sure if my actions are all correct, so I'm looking for other eyes here. Doug Weller talk 13:20, 5 September 2017 (UTC)

denialism

I am confused why you said what you said on my talk page, can you explain it?Boopy troopy (talk) 18:21, 9 September 2017 (UTC)

Greenhouse Academy

I've asked for semiprotection at WP:RfPP – it doesn't seem like the WP:COPYVIO problem is going to go away. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 13:53, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

Terra Sylvestris article

Hello I see the article draft with this name was erased( I created it) , I only want the code so that I work on another submission, I dont want to start from scratch

Please help me

Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Theokarfak (talk • contribs) 20:53, 13 September 2017 (UTC) You will need to contact User:Alex Shih who deleted the article, because it was unambiguous advertising. Theroadislong (talk) 21:19, 13 September 2017 (UTC)

Vaibhav jha

Hi

The article is about a notable person , kindly help me to keep in name space. He is a young Entrepreneur and the concept on which he is working is quite unique and new in terms of safe guarding technologies from Cyber crime. He managed to get incubation from MRIU. All of the above he is just 18, we need to appreciate him. Hoping a positive response from your side.

ThanksContributerdc (talk) 13:25, 16 September 2017 (UTC)

Vaibhav Jha is a self published student, who fails the Wikipedia notability guidelines. You need to establish notability by adding references that show there is widespread coverage of him in reliable sources. Theroadislong (talk) 13:31, 16 September 2017 (UTC)

17:38:16, 16 September 2017 review of submission by PaoloAR15

• PaoloAR15 (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Giuseppina Ghersi (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

This is a victim, name and family name, of a hate homicide in the frame of a civil war in Italy. Should her memory be forgotten? Should facts be denied? If so, wikipedia is USELESS.

I mentioned the book, published, where I took the sources.

There are a plenty of individuals that should not be on wikipedia, because their notoriety is dubious. And... your indication are completely misleading me in what is missing:

- Giuseppina Ghersi was not enough notorius? Do you know all the victims of the Holocaust? - Source: should I put footnotes? - I wrote it consulting several sources and limiting my self only to those mentioned in the most famous italian book about postwar events in Italy.

Not copy-paste job.

Could you kindly indicate me what is missing?

Thanks

You have not included any sources. Wikipedia requires every fact to be supported by a source. See WP:REFSTART for help with referencing. Theroadislong (talk) 17:52, 16 September 2017 (UTC)

Mary Beth Edelson is indeed represented by David Lewis Gallery. No malice intended here.... check my sources, I'm an art critic — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sintern (talk • contribs) 21:39, 17 September 2017 (UTC)

its facts not promotion look it up yourself if my sources aren't sufficient for you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sintern (talk • contribs) 21:49, 17 September 2017 (UTC)

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ICL Fellow page

Should probably put ICL Fellows page back to where it was on September 17th, before I interfered with it. Any objection

I think it looks fine as it is now. Theroadislong (talk) 10:30, 19 September 2017 (UTC)

Deletion of Claremont Rug Company page

Hello, When updating the Bakshaish, Caucasian, Sultanabad pages I added in information for Claremont Rug Company's website's Rug Type Guide pages which provides scholarly information on the origin, colors, design, and rich history of these Persian Rugs. My intention was not to advertise or promote Claremont Rug Company but to give reference and complimentary imagery to where the information came from. Our page has now been deleted and I request that it please be restored and in the future, I will not add written content to corresponding pages from our website. My intention was to provide more educational information about these types of rugs to enhance the user experience when searching through Wikipedia for these rug types and then reference the source not to promote our website. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rug Connoisseur (talk • contribs) 01:09, 21 September 2017 (UTC)

I am not an Admin so cannot restore anything. The page was deleted as advertising and it seems like you are still trying to advertise your company here [1] I can't help you Theroadislong (talk) 07:05, 21 September 2017 (UTC)

Claremont Rug Company editing

Since they're reaching out to you... The number of WP:SPA accounts involved, and the different editing patterns from them suggest paid editing. I'm guessing it's the typical situation where the employees of Claremont Rug Company have become frustrated with their progress in promoting their company on Wikipedia, and have hired others to help. At some point, they hired Garytobin (talk · contribs) [2]. Too bad none of the accounts have simply declared their conflict of interest and tried to work openly with others.

How much have you looked into the situation? Is what I'm seeing similar to your perspective? --Ronz (talk) 16:15, 21 September 2017 (UTC)

Haven't really investigated though User:Ritka Avikara, User:Antiquerugexpert and User:INDIAN REVERTER2 seem to be connected too. Theroadislong (talk) 16:26, 21 September 2017 (UTC)

Thanks.

Antiquerugexpert is a part of the nazmiyalantiquerugs.com spamming. I'm not sure if it's related other than the nazmiyalantiquerugs.com spamming makes a (bad) example for others (azerbaijanrugs.com, claremontrug.com, catwalkrugs.com.au) to follow.

Ritka Avikara, INDIAN REVERTER, INDIAN REVERTER2 are pretty obvious socks. --Ronz (talk) 16:44, 21 September 2017 (UTC)

Thankyou

for the barnstar! My first one - anyways, having an article ok'ed has made me rather ridiculously pleased so thought I would share some of it about by saying an official thankyou :) Curdle (talk) 12:04, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

John Rutland

As you were involved in Draft:John Rutland, can you please compare and if needed tag appropriately John Rutland? I do not have the time, nor the knowledge on the subject. A quick glance shows enough sourcing, but I do not see major differences with the draft that was repeatedly declined. Please take a look at it, and tag if needed. Thanks. -- Alexf^(talk) 10:03, 29 September 2017 (UTC)

COI

Hi, I have just updated the page for National Association of Cider Makers as I update their website and spotted some out of date references on the Wikipedia page. If that represents a conflict of interest, please let me know and how I could otherwise ensure that the page is correct? thanks CiderUK (talk) 11:34, 29 September 2017 (UTC)

When you have a conflict of interest it's advisable to suggest the changes on the talk page of the relevant article, rather than making the changes yourself. Theroadislong (talk) 11:49, 29 September 2017 (UTC)

JT Global

Hi Theroadislong. I hope all is well. My name is Julien Morel and I support JT Global with its communications (I work for a PR agency in Jersey, Channel Islands). I'm new to updating Wikipedia so I need a bit of hand-holding. I've had a quick live chat with Wikipedia who have been really helpful - so I've now declared an interest and posted a short message on the JT Global talk page. It's late on Friday here in Jersey so I'm going to rest for the weekend and tackle this on Monday but I'd really appreciate some guidance on getting these update approved. I guess I need fewer references from the JT Global website?

so you will need to find independent sources which cover the company in depth. Theroadislong (talk) 17:13, 29 September 2017 (UTC)

JT Global

Thanks Theroadislong. I'll go through my entry and use as many independent sources as I can. Can I update my existing revision (that you took down) or do I have to start afresh? And it is ok to use some references from the JT Global site? Some facts will only be found there.

You will need to make suggestions on the talk page for each edit you want to make, paid editing is VERY seriously discouraged here. Theroadislong (talk) 17:46, 29 September 2017 (UTC)

Draft:Apollo brown

Hi, Just saw you comment. I have no other point of reference for some of these facts. I understand why Youtube is questionable but I don't see why dicogs and allmusic are not reliable enough sources for a known music release.

Thanks for the pointers.Gstring2010 (talk) 21:47, 30 September 2017 (UTC)

To establish notability you need multiple in-depth coverage of the subject not just listings and mentions. Theroadislong (talk) 22:16, 30 September 2017 (UTC)

Susan Tedeschi and David Lemieux page additions

Hi,

This is my first time using Wiki as an editor, so please bear with me. These interviews, are similar to many other links to articles about the artists (or archivist in David's case). For people interested in their work, what better source than a personal interview with the source topic?

There is a link on Susan's page, directly before the one I added: Interview with Tedeschi in Performing Musician magazine

I'm not sure I understand the difference.

(Also, if this is the wrong way to discuss this, please let me know!!) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Majoza416 (talk • contribs) 20:52, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, Majoza416 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Majoza416 (talk • contribs) 20:48, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

Hofstra University Center for Entrepreneurship

Hi. I'd like a 2nd opinion as my opinion of this is that it is deletable. It was moved from drafts by creator, is sourced to the subject's web pages and looks too promo for my tastes. Value your judgment. Thanks Dlohcierekim (talk) 12:45, 5 October 2017 (UTC)

Looks like pure advertising to me! I have tagged it for deletion. Theroadislong (talk) 13:25, 5 October 2017 (UTC)

draft to article spam

Is there a way to efficiently monitor for Draft moves like that one? My brute force attack on the problem is exhausting.Dlohcierekim (talk) 14:34, 5 October 2017 (UTC)

Good question! I don't know the answer. Theroadislong (talk) 14:36, 5 October 2017 (UTC)

Ha! Requiring confirmed status to article creation solved some problems but shifted others. Dlohcierekim (talk) 14:46, 5 October 2017 (UTC)

Removal of templates

Thanks for the feedback. Once again, I'd appreciate some guidance as, as you know, I am relatively new to Wikipedia. I am now updating the JT Global entry, writing impartially only using external references and citations. My updates are now being approved, for which I'm grateful - not least because it validates the approach I'm taking. How and when will the maintenance templates be removed, please? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Julienmorel (talk • contribs) 10:14, 8 October 2017 (UTC) Julienmorel (talk) 10:16, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Hello

Hi

I have edited the draft of my article on which you last left a review. Can you please help review it for me again? Priyanka Priyanka2887 (talk) 04:04, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

Writing about the company you work for is probably the most difficult task on Wikipedia. I strongly advise you not to.Your draft is supported by content written by the owner of the company. Wikipedia has essentially no interest in anything that a subject says or wants to say about itself: it is only interested in what people who have no connection with the subject have published about it, in reliable places. Theroadislong (talk) 09:11, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Hello, Theroadislong! Thank you for your advice about my article. This helped me understand some of my mistakes. If You do not mind, could You review the new edits to this article. Is everything in my article correct? I wish you every success in your career.Thank you! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Vagif_Ibrahimov Maryam.bzade20 (talk) 06:03, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

unconstructive edits to Pete Sampras

Hi I noticed you left me a message on my talk page warning me about unconstructive edits to Pete Sampras, could you please explain why my edits were seen as unconstructive edits. I added thid information Sampras has been widely considered by many tennis analysts to be the greatest male grass player of all time, due to his 7 Wimbledon victories in 8 years from 1993-2000, and being undefeated in the 7 Wimbledon finals he contested in, After Roger Federer won his record eight Wimbledon title in 2017, Pat Cash and John McEnroe lauded Federer to the greatest male grass court player of all time. Was the material I cited it from not reliable ?. Amy foster (talk) 18:21, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

It wasn't supported by the source and in some ways repeated what was already there. Theroadislong (talk) 18:23, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

Apologies

Attempting to revert subtle vandalism to an article and not sure how it is done.Jacksonlegend (talk) 14:58, 12 October 2017 (UTC)

Wilmington plc opening line edit

Hi there, I've made a change to the first line of the Wilmington plc page which I've noticed you have flagged for COI and notability. I appreciate now that I should have identified that I work for Wilmington in a marketing capacity, apologies. The line that I've written is a neutral brief description of the company as per the company website, as the previous opening line was out of date. Could you advise me the best way to proceed? Thanks for any help!

Dougmarshall (talk) 09:38, 12 October 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia has essentially no interest in anything that a subject says or wants to say about itself: it is only interested in what people who have no connection with the subject have published about it, in reliable places. You are welcome to suggest any changes on the talk page of the article but as you have a clear conflict of interest I would advise you not to edit the article directly. Theroadislong (talk) 09:42, 12 October 2017 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) @Dougmarshall: (chiming in uninvited.) Theroadislong is correct. Clearly, if you work for the subject of an article, you have a conflict of interest. I view addition of information in an article from the corporate website as spam. This also raises the spectre of paid editing. You need to read that carefully. I cannot see how you are not a paid editor-- it is your job to market the subject. IMO, you need to make a declaration on your userpage. You are hereby discouraged from editing until you address that matter, particularly in areas connected with your employer. If you are only interested in tailoring the article about your employer, there is another spectre lurking in the shadows-- WP:nothere. Let us not venture too far in that direction. Hope this helps.Dlohcierekim (talk) 15:01, 12 October 2017 (UTC)

Discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring#User:Spsand reported by User:Jd22292 (Result: )

You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring#User:Spsand reported by User:Jd22292 (Result: ). jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 16:30, 12 October 2017 (UTC)

Gordon Ramasy height

Hi I have read various sources and heard claims from himself that Gordon Ramasay is 6 feet 2 inches tall, this is really interesting , there is a photo of kate ford who plays Tracey Barlow in Coronation street with Gordon ramasy I think it was at the 2007 soap awards when kate won award for storyline where she murdered Charlie Stubbs in January 2007 , now kate must have been wearing heels there, but if she is 5'8 without heels as she claimed then she cannot be over 6'0 in heels but she was almost the same height as Gordon ramasy ! how does that make sense when Gordon Ramasy has said he is 6'2 , , if you type in kate ford 2007 soap awards into search engine you will see it, either kate is taller than she claims or Gordon is not even as tall as 6ft, apparently on celebrity heights Rob Paul when he studied a screenshot from an episode of the F word from 2007 where he was measured on a stadiometer by the supermodel Erin O Connor who claimed he was 6'3.5 he was really just under 6'2.5 Barefoot or shoes we do not know, but even that is suspicious so what height is he really ? Amy foster (talk) 19:09, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

This is what we call original research, Wikipedia has no interest in what you or I think about a subject it is only interested in what the reliable sources say. Theroadislong (talk) 19:22, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

6ft 2 "In most of their photos Ramasy looked much taller than beckham who was listed at 1.80m (5'11 ) in his playing stats as a footballer . In a episode of hotel hell recently Gordon showed viewers his passport and was listed at 188cm, which is about 6'2" For ] he is definitely above average height for a man man. Amy foster (talk) 23:21, 12 October 2017 (UTC)

As I said above, this is original research and is not permitted, please read Wikipedia:No original research. Theroadislong (talk) 11:18, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

And please also read Wikipedia:Sock puppetry. Theroadislong (talk) 12:51, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

Malkovich

You are right, I did not provide proper reference, still the reference exists. Malkovich himself did not confirm the claimed Croatdom. Read

Do danas ne znam jesam li Hrvat, Crnogorac ili Bosanac

Pay attention to these sentences:

Jučer sam posjetio selo u kojem je navodno rođen moj djed. Znate, svašta su mi govorili o mom podrijetlu, a moj je otac za svog oca također govorio i da je bio najveći lažac na svijetu. Kada je prvi put u nekim novinama napisano da sam hrvatskog podrijetla, majka mi je rekla da potječemo iz Crne Gore, za što do tada također nisam čuo,

--109.92.171.142 (talk) 13:55, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

Natasha Raskin unsourced material

Hi I noticed that you warned me about unsourced material, is it because I added a date of birth and month without citing it, I don't think the month of her birth is accurate, it says its November 1986, I read in company director website, where all directors are listed, now this information comes from company house, now I cannot imagine this being inaccurate as all this comes from the public register , her date of birth according to this is June 1986, here is the link to it https://www.companiesintheuk.co.uk/director/1503144/natasha-raskin , where did the November 1986 come from because this conflicts with what surely is a reliable, I am sorry if I was contentious I did not mean to be  ? Amy foster (talk) 18:23, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

Then please cite your sources when changing content. Theroadislong (talk) 18:40, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

Camp Kabeyun

You nominated this page for speedy deletion. Just wondering how you feel it differs other similar pages about summer camps, or if particular sections should be changed.

20:53, 17 October 2017 (UTC)signalridge — Preceding unsigned comment added by Signalridge (talk • contribs)

Camp Merrimac

Thank you for tagging that page. I meant to merge those articles years ago and never remembered to do so. Thanks! Steve Lux, Jr. (talk) 22:22, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Request on 21:21:51, 20 October 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Afarin Majidi

• Afarin Majidi (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Auto Insurance Specialists: AIS Insurance (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Afarin Majidi (talk) 21:21, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

This was edited by John from Idegon who said it's neutral now. Why is everyone picking on the girl? Please reread. It's been a long debacle on how to write about a company. John retracted the article from the deleted file and helped me edit it. It's very neutral, much more so than the linked Wiki page to Mercury, which owns this company. If you disagree, please point out where it's not neutral. Afarin Majidi (talk) 21:26, 20 October 2017 (UTC) 21:21, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

Please don't mis-represent what others have said. John from Idegon actually said this…"A)I have not substatially edited this draft; B) altho this still seems promo, the big issue is the lack of notability (you have 0 reliable independent sources discussing the subject in detail); C) the only reason this was restored was so others could advise you - no one advised you to submit it; indeed more than one said there was no chance for it to succeed and D) I am not, not have I ever represented myself as, an administrator, nor did I in any way indicate the neutrality issue had been addressed. I've renominated it for speedy deletion. You have not got an article here."

It has been deleted for the third time as promotional. Theroadislong (talk) 08:33, 21 October 2017 (UTC)