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Contactless payment and ‪Mobile payment‬ Wikipages

Hello Theroadislong, I disagree with your statements on adding new references. The Contactless payment and ‪Mobile payment‬ Wikipages which were modified don't have any formal references. IEEE peer reviewed articles were added as formal references. You may want to do the needful to add them to the Wikipages of Contactless payment and ‪Mobile payment‬ following procedures that you have suggested. The external links were added so that the readers can click on them and get access to the articles for further reading. Please help Wikipedia to have latest information for people. Thanks you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Quick2011wiki (talk • contribs) 18:54, 17 March 2017 (UTC)

re Ronan page draft

Thanks so much for the feedback. I took out the Wikipedia and Facebook references, and I'll look at the link about linking endnote numbers and references.OfTheSea (talk) 19:33, 17 March 2017 (UTC)

Not sure of payment

Hello,if you are going to give me salary payment,tell me when to pay it.Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hamad olatunde (talk • contribs) 12:04, 10 March 2017 (UTC)

Sorry I have no idea what you are talking about. Theroadislong (talk) 12:38, 10 March 2017 (UTC)

Hamad seems to be trying to apply for a paying job as a Wikipedia editor. —Tamfang (talk) 21:51, 17 March 2017 (UTC)

re Ronan draft- references

The only biographical references I have for the first three sections of the page are from samronan.org, which is a site owned by Ronan himself. As I understand it, I can't use that as a source, since it's owned by the subject of the Wikipedia page. Not sure what to do about that. OfTheSea (talk) 19:38, 17 March 2017 (UTC)

OfTheSea (talk) 04:39, 18 March 2017 (UTC)== re Ronan page draft ==

I fixed the endnotes. Now I have to figure out how to make the references section, and get my endnotes in there.

Many, many thanks. Can I publish it now? OfTheSea (talk) 05:00, 18 March 2017 (UTC)

Ronan pic

One more question. I found this pic for the page. It looks like a screen grab from one of the televised DNC debates. Do you suppose this is in the public domain, or simply okay to use?

https://www.google.com/search?q=ronan+dnc&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjr1Jiu5N_SAhXBKGMKHXI2BUUQ_AUICigD&biw=1027&bih=557#q=ronan+dnc&tbm=isch&tbs=isz:l&*&imgrc=RQ9PmsiOtdx2xM:OfTheSea (talk) 10:03, 18 March 2017 (UTC)

No absolutely not OK. Please see WP:IUP#COPYRIGHT. Unless you take a photograph of him yourself it's fairly safe to assume that you can't use anything you find on the web. Theroadislong (talk) 10:08, 18 March 2017 (UTC)

Pic

Thanks. Yeah, read the copyright page but was wondering if debate footage is in public domain. Good to know.OfTheSea (talk) 13:48, 18 March 2017 (UTC)

thanks for answering my question about multiple drafts

I appreciate your help.

MauraWen (talk) 17:53, 18 March 2017 (UTC)

Re: draft John Doble

(Not sure if this is the correct way to reply.) I think I should have used the heading "External Links" not "References." But I don't see how to change it. Thank you. Sarah E Thompson (talk) 18:12, 18 March 2017 (UTC)

Hello

Good day. Thanks for your message.

I started to update the list of distribution companies from Spain, as I found that there was none listed from the country.

I also linked the name of the first company I added. It goes to it's official website. Is that forbidden or considered spam? If that's the case I'll be aware for the future.

Please let me know how to proceed as I want to continue expanding the list.

Thank you very much.

Logar78 (talk) 16:01, 20 March 2017 (UTC)

The article List of film distributors by country lists Wikipedia articles for the film distributors, preferably those with articles, we don't use external links in the body of the article. It is considered spamming to add such links. Theroadislong (talk) 16:10, 20 March 2017 (UTC)

Your message about my article draft

Hi, thanks for offering. I do understand and agree on principle with the criteria mentioned, and maybe it's just a technical problem then, or one of terminology and formalities, so I'd be happy if you can help me. I included the link to the amazon page just to show those CDs exist. Is there another way? I've seen discography sections for other artists that just list the titles and that's it, which for me sounds less believable than linking some place where you can find the CDs. In any case my intention was not to advertise for amazon or anything. Would it be of any (hah, notable ;-)) interest to include an un-linked list of recordings, or should I just leave that out? About the German wikipedia page, I just wanted to include a link to it at the bottom of the article, like it can be seen on some pages, but somehow that didn't work. I didn't even strictly use it as a source, I used Mr. Palmeri's artist bio (Spanish) that can be found in different places (original and sloppily translated), and the German and English version are based on the same material. But it was probably the wrong place to put the thing. As for more reliable and independent sources - sadly the number of available arts reviews about anything but the biggest mainstream events in other countries than Germany and Switzerland is quite limited, so even if there are tons of event announcements, it's hard to find anything useful... or are the articles I linked okay like that, seeing as your criticism didn't refer to those? Thanks for your time! Original yappy (talk) 21:06, 20 March 2017 (UTC)

We don't really need evidence that the cds exist, but we do need some more in depth coverage of him, the sources don't have to be in English. Theroadislong (talk) 21:12, 20 March 2017 (UTC)

Request on 04:42:17, 21 March 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Nedvol

• Nedvol (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Adam Armstrong (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

I resubmitted the article on Adam Armstrong who was the first settler in Dalkeith Perth WA. I have not heard anything back despite making the changes requested. Please advise as I am a volunteer and expect a week to be quite long enough for any comments to come back so I can tick this task off or continue to work on it. Please advise ASAP Nedvol (talk) 04:42, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

Adam Armstrong pioneer settler Dalkeith Western Australia

Hi I just left a message on a different front end so seem to be forced to repeat it here too. As I said previously the above page was rejected so I worked on inserting primary sources and resubmitted about 10 days ago. Nothing has come back and the message in my own site informs me the article is still in draft????????? I expected a response of some kind by now and that if you were away someone else would jump in. I am a volunteer and not in every day so expect this period of time to be sufficient for any comment or acceptance to have been made. I will go back to the draft page and once again resubmit — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nedvol (talk • contribs) 04:46, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

I have looked at your draft again Draft:Adam Armstrong it appears to be a family history project written in an essay style and not really suitable for an encyclopedia, it includes a lot of unreferenced, original research and not enough in depth coverage in reliable sources. You say you are a "volunteer" we are ALL volunteers here. Theroadislong (talk) 08:57, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

Spam links

Hi! How can I list an organization that combats human trafficking?

TeresIng (talk) 14:39, 21 March 2017 (UTC) Teres

You can't I'm afraid, until they are notable enough to have an article created about them. Adding external links as you have been doing is spamming and you also have a conflict of interest. Theroadislong (talk) 14:44, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

Jared Yates Sexton bio page

Hello! You flagged my entry for deletion as I was in the middle of creating it. There are at least ten references currently. I hope you will take a look.

Thanks!

Martianlife (talk) 15:18, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

Virtually all your sources are articles that he wrote himself. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia that summarizes what independent, reliable sources say about a topic. Theroadislong (talk) 16:04, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

Bruce Flatt's Wiki page and GGP

Hi, I noticed that you helped an editor from GGP Inc (General Growth Properties) move the company's page to GGP Inc from its old name space. An anonymous editor tried to change the name of General Growth Properties to GGP Inc on the Wikipedia article for Bruce Flatt, the chairman of GGP Inc, the name of which appears three times on the page. Unfortunately a second editor, ScrapIronIV, reverted the edits, stating that the changes from the old name to the new name were "sock edits," whatever that is. I am hoping you wont mind making the changes there? I am afraid to tangle with ScrapIronIV, in fear that it might turn into an editing war. I would really appreciate it. AnalyticCat (talk) 08:55, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

 Done Theroadislong (talk) 09:25, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

Deletion of edit in Regeneration

The edit I included in the intro is sourced in the article itself. The intro was confusing and was biased towards Catholic and Lutheran regeneration. PTSaputo PTSaputo (talk) 18:01, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

My apologies I have re-instated your edit. Theroadislong (talk) 18:10, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PTSaputo (talk • contribs) 19:18, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

My apologies (concerning my edit of the New Atheism page)

My apologies. I simply felt that adding that statement would be a good way to introduce the section, since there were criticisms from both atheists and believers alike, but I was wrong not to source it. AbdulAliAbdullah (talk) 16:55, 24 March 2017 (UTC)AbdulAliAbdullahAbdulAliAbdullah (talk) 16:55, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

"Self Published" References?

Hoping you can help me out with one...I don't understand that an article someone has written, for a notable place like The New York Times, is "self-published"? As someone who works in the publishing world, self-published would be considered a blog or personal website, but an article in a nationally recognized newspaper or website is not published by the author him/herself. It is published by the Editor, and it has to be accepted. Please advise? Thanks!

Martianlife (talk) 18:55, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

Sorry it should have been tagged for primary sources. Wikipedia is only interested in what people unconnected with him have published about him in reliable places. Theroadislong (talk) 18:57, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

My Edit

Though I haven't provided an incantation, I'm not aware of how to actually undergo this to prove myself, though the information is true. — Preceding unsigned comment added by WolfAlice02 (talk • contribs) 09:54, 25 March 2017 (UTC)

I've added it back with an "incantation" (citation) for you. Theroadislong (talk) 10:28, 25 March 2017 (UTC)

23:32:29, 27 March 2017 review of submission by Mickthepiper

• Mickthepiper (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Rene Michael Stuart (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

'This submission's references do not adequately show the subject's notability'.

As my draft submission says, I was the CASWO. I am filling in the missing information between my predecessor and my successor . I am open to suggestions on how I can increase or prove my 'notability'. I would have thought my notability can be proved by my award of the MBE, and I have referenced that? I cannot see where my successors gained their 'notability' having done exactly the same job as I did...

I've read the notes on 'notability' and to be truthful it's as clear as mud to me. I'd appreciate your suggestions.

Many thanks, Rene Stuart MBE

WP:GNG states that a topic needs to have received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. You have only two references, the majority of the content is totally unsourced, EVERY substantive fact about you needs a reliable source. Theroadislong (talk) 07:14, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

I have unreviewed a page you curated

Hi, I'm Oluwa2Chainz. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, Debra Yepa-Pappan, and have un-reviewed it again. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you.

—Oluwa2Chainz »» (talk to me) 07:22, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

Chantry

Discuss where?? I have provided all the proof. I do not have to discuss anything I created this article. I have filed a complaint against this with wiki on the 21 March 2017 Imasku (talk) 17:07, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

You need to discuss it on the article talk page where other editors have reached a consensus, the article does not belong to you any more than the 70 or so articles I have created belong to me, when you edit Wikipedia you agree that anyone else can edit the content that's how Wikipedia works.@Sergecross73: Theroadislong (talk) 17:11, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

Notability Draft:Fulori tataqa

Hello sir, I made some changes and added references to my page. It would be nice of you if you could check it again in give me feedback as getting this page published is really important to me. Hoping for a favorable reply. MichelleGrace01 (talk) 21:31, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

But then that is all about her over the internet i have no other sources. Can you please help me out here. I need to get this published because it is an assignment. She is a female leader that is not acknowledged that is why i have to acknowledge her and make a Wikipedia page as a part of my assignment. I went and personally interviewed this lady and that is how i got all the information.

MichelleGrace01 (talk) 21:37, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

I think you and your teacher might have misunderstood how Wikipedia works. Firstly please read Wikipedia:Notability (people). We only summarise what reliable, independent published sources say about the topic, we have no interest in what she says about herself and if there are no reliable sources then we can't have an article about her. Your teacher has given you a VERY poorly thought out assignment I'm afraid. Theroadislong (talk) 21:44, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

Still don't understand why you tagged my article for deletion

The article Tony nwoye was tagged for referencing which worked on (though not sure I did it correctly) but I tried referencing and citing it to the best of my ability. I was hoping other editors would help to make it more perfect. To my greatest surprise you tagged it for deletion. I have gone through it looking for the reason but can't seem to be seeing what you saw and you didn't leave any message to your reason at the talk page. Please help me understand better still help me reference it properly. Still learning.. Please Soplux (talk) 06:54, 30 March 2017 (UTC)

The reason is given on the deletion page, their is no in depth coverage of the man in independent sources. Theroadislong (talk) 07:49, 30 March 2017 (UTC)

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Paten Hughes bio

I am a professional writer writing on behalf of Paten Hughes. Her page is not written autobiographically, merely registered under her name. Sorry for the confusion — Preceding unsigned comment added by PatenHughes (talk • contribs) 22:34, 30 March 2017 (UTC)

AfC template removal

Hi there. Is the AfC template I added to Draft:Alice Waddington the wrong one? You're not the first editor to remove it, and although I've restored it, now I'm wondering if I'm getting something wrong. Cordless Larry (talk) 10:26, 1 April 2017 (UTC)

Hmm is that some sort of glitch? All I did was leave a comment but the software seems to have removed the submission bit. Theroadislong (talk) 12:28, 1 April 2017 (UTC)

Ah, it could be. That would explain why it's happened a couple of times. Cordless Larry (talk) 14:09, 1 April 2017 (UTC)

Bruno Maçães

Another editor said he wanted all sources even if 1000. You say only a few sources How do I publish the piece myself as a autiregistered author? Andrea Montefiorino (talk) 14:48, 1 April 2017 (UTC)

Bruno Maçães page

All the secondary sources are reliable, objective sources. There are a couple of primary - as in every Wikipedia page Andrea Montefiorino (talk) 14:44, 1 April 2017 (UTC)

I see now that you have formatted the references incorrectly so they they don't appear in the reference section please read WP:REFB for help in referencing.

The three references visible...

• http://www.flint-global.com/staff-member/bruno-macaes/ this is a primary source
• http://www.politico.eu/newsletter/playbook/politico-brussels-playbook-parliament-debate-wrap-immersed-in-the-brussels-bubble/ A single passing mention of the subject
• http://carnegieeurope.eu/experts/1185 another primary source.

Our notability guideline requires there to be significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the topic. Theroadislong (talk) 14:50, 1 April 2017 (UTC)

Notability of the draft I am writing

Hi, Theroadislong!

I so understand what you say about nominations but I thought that adding more could be a way to add more reliable sources to the article?

Thank you

MarthaDaisy (talk) 23:02, 31 March 2017 (UTC) Martha

The VAST number of tables just gets a bit overwhelming! Look at other articles of a similar type, they don't do this. Theroadislong (talk) 23:05, 31 March 2017 (UTC)

Hahaha I understand. I am on the process of adding most of the crazy separate individual tiny tables to a bigger one. Can you check if that feels any better, and could you take a general look at the references and general state of my draft? Very much appreciated. Only now am I starting to understand how this complex community works... Martha.

MarthaDaisy (talk) 01:41, 1 April 2017 (UTC)

Dear TRIL: Photographer Paduano Andre just kindly found the time to authorize these files (he will authorize the rest this week). Can I use these two now or do I have to do anyrthing extra I am missing to use them?

- File:Aitana Sánchez-Gijón and her goat-servants in Disco Inferno.jpg

- File:Ana Rujas and Aitana Sánchez-Gijón on the set of Alice Waddington-directed Disco Inferno.jpg

Thank you!!

MarthaDaisy (talk) 03:01, 3 April 2017 (UTC)

I'm not an admin so can't see the authorisation, there is no rush to get photographs in the article there is more urgent work like removing all the in line external links and hacking back the MASSIVE table of nominations. Theroadislong (talk) 07:28, 3 April 2017 (UTC)

Adam Armstrong draft

You left a message stating the above draft was apparently an Armstrong family history project. This is inaccurate. As stated before, this person was the FIRST WHITE SETTLER in WA and gave the suburb its name after his home town in Scotland. Any history inevitably involves a family connection. I can rewrite some of the more subjective and descriptive language but dispute I did not source relevant sources (2 published books and 2 source documents are more than representative). Please advise on exactly what you demand. Many locals here comment that they can't find historic figures on wikipedia and I want to correct this. The information is used for all sorts of reasons including town planning and property development and it is assumed this information is now online. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nedvol (talk • contribs) 03:42, 4 April 2017 (UTC)

I stand by my review others might see it differently. Your claim to notabilty "FIRST WHITE SETTLER in WA" isn't even mentioned in the article? Two of the sources are to adverts these are not suitable. Please ensure you make it clear how he passes the general notability guide]]. Theroadislong (talk) 07:38, 4 April 2017 (UTC)

18:30:36, 4 April 2017 review of submission by Schpa

• Schpa (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Biogarde (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi! I added a few references and also a picture of a variety of Biogarde yoghurt in the nearest supermarket. It's a specific type of yoghurt produced by many different companies which has been around for decades, very widely known in The Netherlands. One of the first probiotics in fact. Schpa (talk) 18:30, 4 April 2017 (UTC)

Why should it be removed immediatly? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Macynthomas (talk • contribs) 14:47, 5 April 2017 (UTC)

About Ports in West Bengal

Here say have issue this page but l'm not locate no problems here (i let you delete tag) i see only problem of P and p — Preceding unsigned comment added by TalismanOnline (talk • contribs) 04:32, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

A page with wrong tag

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Channel_8_(Thailand)?action=edit&oldid=773615585 this it's a link to Channel 8 where it's not somethin wrong about grammar,spelling and etc --Silviu (talk) 17:51, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

I have no idea what you are suggesting...sorry. Theroadislong (talk) 18:53, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

Draft: Anna Ciddor

Thank you for your request. I have added the publisher and ISBN details as you suggested. Most of the books can now be found online by following the ISBN link and searching on Google Books or Open Library. Thank you again. Retengineer (talk) 07:22, 12 April 2017 (UTC)

Thank you so much for your efforts and help

Dear Theroadislong:

I wanted to say a personal thank-you to you for helping me out SO much with my article. I feel like I have taken an accelerated course in HTML, Creative Commons, and so much more thanks to your help.

My page just got approved and it was partly thanks to your input. I will keep on improving it and contributing to other interesting Wiki pages in the fields of music, film... As I was saying to also lovely CordlessLarry I am not sure if I will have the guts to start another full page from scratch as it was incredibly difficult but I definitely will put my knowledge of European cinema to work soon

You guys are the definition of good Samaritans. Thank you for being there for fully lost new users

Warmly

MarthaDaisyMarthaDaisy (talk) 04:21, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

Source of Jesus In Kashmir Legend

Please stop editing this information out of the Suzanne Olsson article. I have provided a link both to the book and pages. Thanks.Jeanmoin (talk) 13:00, 16 April 2017 (UTC)

Please read what you have written for sense before clicking save, your addition makes no sense at all! Theroadislong (talk) 13:06, 16 April 2017 (UTC)

William Lane Craig

Ha, I think you figured out what "linkgarm" was. Drmies (talk) 14:18, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

Sargy Mann

Thank you for your message. I hadnt really thought about the things you mentioned and as you point out it is probably not appropriate for me to contribute to the page. Ironically my intention was to change the wording from something written by a gallery that has a specific interest in selling the work to something that more accurately represents the artist and his reasons for painting which were much less commercial. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sargymannarchive (talk • contribs) 08:59, 19 April 2017 (UTC)

High Tech Campus Eindhoven page

You deleted my recent additions to the page on High Tech Campus Eindhoven, based on a recent study (by myself) published in Engineering Management Research. This is scholarly, not promotional work! And please note that I have no other ties to the HTCE then those as scholar doing research in this area. NB: it is quite usual for authors of scholarly work to update/extend current wikipedia pages. GeorgesRomme (talk) 14:56, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

Sorry but it appeared to be promotional in tone and you really shouldn't be adding your own work as a source. Theroadislong (talk) 15:01, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

"Appeared to be promotional .....": did you actually check the scholarly sources used (the artices by Van Borgh et al. and by Romme)? And where can I find the rule that one should not add your own work as a source? If scholars cannot do this, as the experts in a particular field, who will? About 50% of wikipedia would not exist if scholars/contributors cannot draw on their own work. 12:31, 18 April 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by GeorgesRomme (talk • contribs)

See WP:SELFCITE I have edited many thousands of articles and VERY rarely come across self citing, it is NOT encouraged, you are welcome to make suggestions on the article talk page but you should exercise extreme caution citing your own work. "Appeared to be promotional ....." meaning you appear to be promoting your own work. Theroadislong (talk) 12:58, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

• GeorgesRomme, I see a lot of self-citing for "Romme", and not all of it is neutral. Self-citing is one thing, but a. one should not cite Dr. X's work to prove that Dr. X's work is important: one needs a secondary source saying so; b. we should be very wary of self-promotion in the first place--Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a tenure file; c. the language needs to be absolutely neutral. Drmies (talk) 14:26, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

"one should not cite Dr. X's work to prove that Dr. X's work is important": I agree, but I do not see how this relates to my contribution to the High Tech Campus Eindhoven (HTCE) page. Notably, I'm not working at this campus, and I'm not employed by any organization residing at this campus. I work at another campus, the TU/e Science Park (as a professor at the TU/e = Eindhoven University of Technology) in the same region; but the TU/e campus is not related to the HTCE, that is completely privately owned. Please help me out here ... because I'm totally lost now. GeorgesRomme (talk) 14:58, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

• GeorgesRomme, I'm talking about the article about you, and the one on your colleague, and the Sociocracy article. Drmies (talk) 01:22, 19 April 2017 (UTC)

• Drmies, you're right regarding the GeorgesRomme page. Can you delete the entire page? Looks like the most appropriate solution to me. GeorgesRomme (talk) 09:23, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
  • Georges, I am not (yet) prepared to do that--it seems to me that the subject may well be notable by our standards, and I'm not going to throw the baby out with the bathwater. What you can do is send it to WP:AFD, but I think you'll find it more likely that the article will be kept and improved as a result. Which may be a good thing. We like having articles, and we like having articles on notable people. Obviously they have to conform to the standards, but we'd rather have a poor article on a notable topic than no article at all... Wat zie ik nou? Ajax op bezoek dit weekend? Da's spannend! Drmies (talk) 18:17, 19 April 2017 (UTC)

Removal from my page

Hi there! You left me a message that something I had added to my page had been removed (no reliable source...?), but didn't say what had been removed so I'm not sure what you're talking about. I'm not very tech savvy so I'm having a lot of trouble navigating here. A fan messaged me on Facebook to say he had gone in and added a bunch of stuff, but I noticed it wasn't a very good update (some wasn't accurate info) so I went in and changed a lot of it. Perhaps you can guide me a little better? It's always a crap shoot when a fan thinks they're helping. Lol I've also noticed that there are photos linked with the Wiki page that are not of me and on the "Drunktown's Finest" page there is a link to my Carmen Moore page, but she is a completely different Carmen Moore that I don't want to be associated with. I've had trouble with her in the past. Do you have any suggestions on how to get her photos (or anyone else for that matter) unlinked to my Wiki page? Any advice or help in these matters would be greatly appreciated! Thanks Carmen TheCarmenMoore (talk) 21:29, 19 April 2017 (UTC)

I reverted the addition of two awards which were unreferenced back in December last year.

The article Drunktown's Finest has no link to you? The link is to Carmen Moore (American actress). I can find no photographs linked to the Wikipedia article about you so can’t help there sorry. Theroadislong (talk) 21:45, 19 April 2017 (UTC)

22:20:11, 19 April 2017 review of submission by 123.126.249.170

• 123.126.249.170 (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Matthew A. Murphy (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Run a Google search for the subject - hundreds of publications, news articles, etc refer to him. Further, a Facebook page run by an academic institution is a reliable source. To say that a particular platform is not reliable, would be like saying that Wikipedia is not a reliable source, period. A reviewer experienced in the field of international law/business needs to take a look at this submission, otherwise Talk is non-sensical.

If there are hundreds of publications and news articles why don't you use them as references? and you are correct WIkipedia is NOT a reliable source. Theroadislong (talk) 07:15, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

04:18:06, 21 April 2017 review of submission by 218.102.34.121

• 218.102.34.121 (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Matthew A. Murphy (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

I'm an international lawyer. Subject is notable. I quote his judgments and writings a lot on Chinese law and practise.

Then please add better sources to support this. Facebook and press releases are not suitable. Theroadislong (talk) 06:52, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

08:39:49, 21 April 2017 review of submission by 64.88.227.140

• 64.88.227.140 (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Matthew A. Murphy (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

I agree with the international lawyer. You say Facebook is not acceptable, but I have just checked and many many subjects have Facebook articles from good Facebook pages. How about the ACAA, Financial Times, Oxford Press, the Queensland Law Society magazine, etc? They are all there too. You dont like them either?

Please read WP:MEAT Theroadislong (talk) 08:53, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

09:41:55, 21 April 2017 review of submission by 64.88.227.140

• 64.88.227.140 (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Matthew A. Murphy (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

You asked to see all of the cases that the subject has issued famous decisions on that we use in other cases. I am doing that. There are a lot.

Then please add content that is supported by those sources as well. Articles require more than just a list of sources which mention him. Theroadislong (talk) 09:46, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

You mean add links to books and articles that cite the subject? There are hundreds of them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.88.227.140 (talk) 09:51, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

I mean add some content to the article rather than a long list of sources, you need to establish why he is notable. So far the only claim to notability is a non notable award and please sign your posts. Theroadislong (talk) 09:54, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

The ACAA award is extremely notable. It is rarely won by a lawyer, and it is handed out by the Ambassador to China. The articles by QUT, Nudgee College, ACAA, the Qld Law Society that discuss this award, recognise how notable it is, and recognise subject's work to get the award. They in effect summarise why subject is notable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.88.227.140 (talk) 09:59, 21 April 2017 (UTC) Anyway, its Friday drinks time now. I have done my good deeds for the day. Over and out. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.88.227.140 (talk) 10:06, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

Theodaris about Romania

L'm not doing distruptive editing i edit what correct! then explaim why Romania not was been or seen? — Preceding unsigned comment added by TalismanOnline (talk • contribs) 18:32, 23 April 2017 (UTC)

Your edit created the sentence "Romania is NOT a sovereign state located in Southeastern Europe " which it clearly is, I reverted your edit as vandalism. Theroadislong (talk) 18:38, 23 April 2017 (UTC)

Bersal is incorrect spelling

It is wrong spellinig bersal. The correct one is Barsar. It is a clan of rajput and pronouced as barsar in northern india so change the spelling Thank you

We will need a reliable source first thank you. Theroadislong (talk) 07:10, 24 April 2017 (UTC)

Georgie Baratt's Birthday

Hi Theroadislong, I can provide proof in the form of a picture of her passport, but I'd rather not due to security issues that can arise from such a thing. Thus, what's the best way to provide evidence of her birthday if it's not mentioned anywhere on the net? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Forwhomthebelltrolls (talk • contribs) 09:08, 24 April 2017 (UTC)

That would suggest that you have a conflict of interest. Wikipedia requires published reliable sources. Theroadislong (talk) 09:26, 24 April 2017 (UTC)

your edit of my edit of Fair Trade

I edited Fair Trade as follows: I added The Village Country Store to a table listing companies involved in Fair Trade. The Village Country Store is an online seller of Fair Trade clothing/textiles, as are the other companies listed in the table I edited. You rejected my edit with the following message:

Please do not add promotional material to Wikipedia, as you did to Fair trade. While objective prose about beliefs, organisations, people, products or services is acceptable, Wikipedia is not intended to be a vehicle for soapboxing, advertising or promotion. Thank you. Theroadislong (talk) 20:06, 24 April 2017 (UTC)

I believe The Village Country Store belongs in a table such as the one I added it to. It was not soapboxing or advertising as you imply. I did not link the entry to The Village Country Store website but rather to a 3rd party that identifies The Village Country Store as a Fair Trade organization.

I'm new to wikipedia editing and have an interest in fair trade and third world development. Would you please give me a bit more of an explanation and guidance than you have? Thanks. Mogadish (talk) 20:26, 24 April 2017 (UTC)

The Village Country Store is not yet notable (it has no Wikipedia article) so does not belong in the Fair Trade article. Theroadislong (talk) 20:34, 24 April 2017 (UTC

Within the last several hours organizations were removed from the table which I originally edited - I assume that was you? Please note 1. at least one of the organizations (Ten Thousand Villages) removed DOES have a wikipedia entry, it just wasn't linked to its entry in the table. 2. this is a sampling of organizations without Wikipedia articles in the Fair Trade article -- Anodyne Coffee Roasting Company -- Breve Coffee Company -- Eco-Social -- United Students for Fair Trade -- Fair Trade Universities[ -- Village Markets -- Cooperativa Agraria Cafetalera Pangoa Questions........ 1 Do the listed organizations without Wikipedia articles not belong in the Fair Trade article? 2. Is there a rule that an organization must have a Wikipedia article to be listed or referred to in Wikipedia articles? 3. If there is such a rule, would you direct me to it? Thanks. Mogadish Mogadish (talk) 22:00, 24 April 2017 (UTC)

EdenTree

Thanks Theroadislong, I'm fairly new to wiki and still learning. I thought it ok to put the ammount of asset held as I'd seen that on other investment management pages? With regards to the substantial donation - it seemed historically significant that Ecclesiatical and its subsid had raised such a figure in under three years. Is there a better way I can put it? I take your point about quotes - and will learn how to do this. I've used quotes before and foprgotten how. Can you let me know - is the page ok now? Incidentally I'm not an employee of EdenTree. I'm interested in corporate and moral links between Church of England and world of insurance and investment. My reasons for developing these page is not business promotion - but rather that the public are better informed about these corporate links. Joelionheart (talk) 15:22, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

I removed some text as it wasn't neutral in tone and read like marketing puffery and other text because it was copyrighted content, you can't copy and paste anything unless it's a direct referenced quote of something somebody has said. I think the article looks fine at the moment. I would be very cautious about using their own website to reference claims like " fourth biggest corporate charitable donor in the UK" I think that needs a secondary source. Theroadislong (talk) 15:45, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

No Conflict of Interest

Good Day,

1. In the article Margareta Boivin, all content is based on facts and cited demonstrating transparency. There is no conflict of interest. 2. According to Wikipedia Regulation, as per WP:RS, primary sources and secondary sources are allowed as long as they are reliable. The Margareta Boivin article uses reliable sources. 3. External Links are also permissible; you may want to check Wikipedia articles ex. Kent Monkman or Britney Spears.

Please exercise your comments diligently; if there are other issues either refer to the WP:RS regulations or state specific issues with the content.Sebastienb06 (talk) 22:19, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|Sebastienb06 (talk) 22:19, 25 April 2017 (UTC)]] comment added by Sebastienb06 (talk • contribs) 21:52, 25 April 2017 (UTC) As her spouse your conflict of interest is plain to see, and 18of your sources are to her own website, We only summarise what reliable, independent published sources say about the topic, we have no interest in she says about herself. Please read WP:EL Wikipedia articles may include links to web pages outside Wikipedia (external links), but they should not normally be placed in the body of an article. Theroadislong (talk) 06:44, 26 April 2017 (UTC)

Regarding the link removal

Hello, Thanks you for your email. I just want to add an institute of Video art in China to this "Video art"page. Video Bureau is the only video art archive in China. It included most of the important artist works in China. I think this page should include Video Bureau. The link of it is http://www.videobureau.org/. But as it jumps to Chinese version when first open, I put the English version link instead http://www.videobureau.org/?lang=en Could you let me know what is not inappropriate? Thank you.

Best, Sue — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sue.Hui (talk • contribs) 03:40, 26 April 2017 (UTC)

The section titled "Notable video art organizations" where you add your link is a list of Wikipedia articles related to video, your link was an external link and Wikipedia doesn't use them in the body of the article. Theroadislong (talk) 06:47, 26 April 2017 (UTC)

Understandable mistake

Links to the document I provided in 1936 Iraq coup d'état only seem inappropriate because my website has very little space to host documents. For that reason, I can't upload the PDF to the site without more space. I've rectified this by simply linking the docs to Google Drive, and re-directing people to my site to click that Google link. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.115.182.129 (talk) 17:41, 28 April 2017 (UTC)

Paul Eryk Atlas

Hi Theroadislong, Thank you for not immediately deleting the page I am in the middle of constructing for the above actor. I appreciate that when you first saw it it was very spartan- I assumed I could make it and add to it without it ringing alarm bells, but I have updated it with more info and references proving it's notability I think and would like to add more in terms of links to TV interviews etc, however the videos of the BBC and ITV TV interviews are mostly hosted on sites like YouTube and Facebook rather than the original TV channel (as some are a few months old now and will have disappeared off the online players). They are obvious in what they are but is it okay to link to these as references as they are secondary references and not primary ones ( albeit you can see that they are BBC and ITV videos)? This is the first film of the whole story and lots of us Bronte fans are very excited about it so we want to do a good job on the Wiki pages for the main cast and Director as we feel they are all suitably notable, so would welcome any suggestions on how to tackle issues like the TV interviews etc. Many Thanks, Faireycave Faireycave (talk) 22:43, 1 May 2017 (UTC) (Faireycave (talk) 22:43, 1 May 2017 (UTC))

HCM Care App link

Hello,

I think you have made a mistake in deleting this link. The HCM Care App is a new and free resource to educate patients and the general public about HCM. It has the most up-to-date information, provided by the top HCM specialists in the world. I think it is appropriate for an encyclopedia. If you don't, can you explain why? I would also like to create links on this page to the mobile app stores for this app.

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Acorcoran5 (talk • contribs) 12:59, 4 May 2017 (UTC)

If the website or page to which you want to link includes information that is not yet a part of the article, consider using it as a source for the article, and citing it instead of just adding an external link. Links to the mobile app store would definitely be considered spam though. Theroadislong (talk) 13:57, 4 May 2017 (UTC)

Regrading the page

Page i added is about a real living person. Facebook profile of this person is https://www.facebook.com/sajna.najam

Articles in news sites about her are as follows,

http://metrovaartha.com/en/2015/08/24/experimental-dance-steps-of-a-housewife-that-proved/ http://www.thehindu.com/features/metroplus/shes-got-the-moves/article6839021.ece

how can i rectify the problem that this page is an orphan and such errors. please help me in resolving this issue. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sajnanajam (talk • contribs) 11:31, 6 May 2017 (UTC)

I am not doubting that you are a real person, I think you might have misunderstood what Wikipedia is for. It is an encyclopaedia. It isn’t like Facebook where anyone can write about themselves. Please see Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons. We summarise what independent sources have published about subjects and we have essentially no interest in what anybody says or wants to say about themselves on Wikipedia we need reliable sources independent of the subject. Facebook is not a reliable source either. The page is an orphan because no other Wikipedia articles link to it. Theroadislong (talk) 11:39, 6 May 2017 (UTC)

Not an autobiography

I have not added any autobiography, because i am not sajna najam. Whn i trhough of writing about this choreographer, i signed ut with Wikipedia. When i thought of creating a user name , first thing that came to my mind was this name.

I think this might have caused that i am sajna najam.

Truth is that i am not sajna and i am not writing any autobiography.

This person has done lot of choreography works in Malayalam film industry, which made me decide to write about her as very less information was available in internet. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sajnanajam (talk • contribs) 12:32, 6 May 2017 (UTC)

You need to change your user name then, as soon as possible, please see Wikipedia:Changing username/Simple. Theroadislong (talk) 12:55, 6 May 2017 (UTC)

About Westafricandocumentary.com

TO Theroadislong,

Hi, I'm Alex and I saw you nominated my Wikipedia entry for speedy deletion. I have to tell you that your assertions are unfounded -- I am not related to anyone portrayed on the site, am not in any of the documentaries, and have never even been to West Africa. The site is for information purposes and designed to present an accurate image of West Africa, a growing region home to some of the poorest people on Earth.

If you can believe it, I have never even met any of the contributors to the site or the people seen in the documentaries. I know the contributors only from correspondence through the internet.

Please don't jump to conclusions and form harsh judgments. Westafricandocumentary.com is a true and dignified effort already known to many. It deserves to be publicly explained for the benefit of those who visit and enjoy it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexander Walker (talk • contribs) 15:59, 6 May 2017 (UTC)

I did not nominate the article for deletion, that was User:Yash!. I noted your conflict of interest, in that it is your website you are writing about. Theroadislong (talk) 16:03, 6 May 2017 (UTC)

Removal of my work in progress on Adam Armstrong

I don't know what your position is nor your problem but I don't take kindly to an entire page being deleted. I am new to wikipedia and found your actions quite offensive given I have made efforts to correct the pages to your holier than thou standards. If you continue to remove pages I will make it very public to everyone else who and what you are and raise an official complaint with your overlords at Wikipedia. Talk about negative advertising. I have resurrected the pages by looking hard for links that allow that. Leave me and pages I am working on alone and try not to p--s anyone else if you can help it — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nedvol (talk • contribs) 06:07, 10 May 2017 (UTC)

You are mistaken I commented on your draft sometime ago with the comment "This appears to be a family history project written in an essay style and not really suitable for an encyclopedia it includes a lot of unreferenced, original research and not enough in depth coverage in reliable sources." I have not deleted any content of yours and do not take kindly to your offensive manner here. Your article Adam Armstrong (settler) was accepted by User:Gnangarra but you have moved it back to draft for some reason. Theroadislong (talk) 07:01, 10 May 2017 (UTC)

@Nedvol: I moved it to article space after finding additional sources independent of those in the article and because it has links into additional topics. Theroadislong didnt delete the article you should at least apologise for what you have said. Gnangarra 07:50, 10 May 2017 (UTC)

Hi there Theroadislong, I see that a page about me is up for deletion,

Hello Theroadislong, I am wondering why a page about me is up for deletion. You mentioned that there are no in depth articles about my work but the person (gallerist) who is putting this page up and editing an old page is doing a pretty good job covering the art and education projects I have been part of over a 20 year career. Is there a reason why you are being particularly harsh on me and these posts?

Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by PatrickBKThompson (talk • contribs) 22:13, 10 May 2017 (UTC) There is a good response by another editor here [[1]] to your question. You need to establish notability by providing references that show there is widespread coverage of him in reliable sources independent of him. Wikipedia is not interested in what you have to say about yourself. Theroadislong (talk) 07:35, 11 May 2017 (UTC)

Adam Armstrong draft or posted page?

If I upset you please forgive me but I had no way of understanding what had actually happened. Please understand I have been doing this page for several months with only the comments made by wikipedia to guide me. I also do this as a volunteer and therefore attend to it less often than ideal. When I logged in yesterday, the first thing I noticed was that the draft Adam Armstrong page was "blank". Having spent many months trying to improve this I assumed that it had been deliberately removed as failing to meet the standard whereas I had regarded it as a work in progress . I found a link that allowed as I saw it the article to be restored hence its position back in drafts. Please note I had read in some other messages that content had been removed from another user and had not way of knowing that the article appeared to be posted i.e accepted - a message from you to someone asking about this made me realise only today what seemed to have occurred. I was also unable to find out how to create a second sandbox as I need to work on several articles contemporaneously so it was a very unsatisfactory afternoon. The chat site seemed to be hacked by people with no interest in wiki issues and it was dillusioning to be asked by one of the helpdesk why I was being secretive ( I didn't provide my user name because it told me not to!) perhaps you could confirm that the Adam Armstong page is now live so to speak. Once again my apologies but I hope you can follow why I made the assumptions I did. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.136.68.106 (talk) 03:06, 11 May 2017 (UTC)

The article in question Adam Armstrong (settler) has now been moved back to article space and is live, I think the help desk encourages you not to use your "real name", but your "user name" is fine, you really shouldn't be editing whilst logged out. All good wishes. Theroadislong (talk) 08:11, 11 May 2017 (UTC)

My new page

Hello! Thank you for your comments. I can see that I submitted much too soon. And I have read 2 opposite views about submitting - don't submit about yourself and be bold & submit. Not sure where you stand on this subject. I have newspaper references to my work but not sure yet how to set up the content box and the reference section. Will keep working at it and in the meantime, would appreciate your opinion if I should submit or if I should prepare & have someone else submit. I am an independent artist so I have all the links needed to fulfill the reference requirements. Thank you. Now I have to find that "sign your posts" symbol....found it! Jeanette Arsenault 13:19, 11 May 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeanette Arsenault (talk • contribs)

Hello again --

I have much to learn. Thank you for your time & your guidance. I will wait as you recommend. Jeanette Arsenault 19:03, 11 May 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeanette Arsenault (talk • contribs)

A barnstar for you!

theroadislong

	The Barnstar of Diligence
	Thank you for your help! RisenFall (talk) 12:41, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

Help with creating multiple "sandboxes"

Hi, I hope you read my apology. I am being very dense and cannot find anyway to "create" a second and third sandbox. I am working on several different ideas and cannot find any clear instructions to get these set up. I did find something that directed me to "go to my user page and click on the right of the image, then click on "edit" which apparently was meant to bring up some kind of dialogue box. The only optons were to "create" a page called nedvol which is now undeletable and I no longer have my home page. Could you remove what ever it was I created and give me really simple step by step instructions on how to create second third and fourth sandboxes. So sorry to be so stupid - spent about an hour going round and round in circles — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nedvol (talk • contribs) 05:03, 17 May 2017 (UTC)

Your sandbox is here...User:Nedvol/sandbox to create a second just add something after another slash like User:Nedvol/sandbox/number2 Theroadislong (talk) 06:45, 17 May 2017 (UTC)

About your review of my article titled MarkPlus

I have been asked to write this article on Wikipedia about my employer (MarkPlus). Even though I am well aware that promotional material should not go on Wikipedia, I really objectively feel this company deserves a Wikipedia page. MarkPlus has been one of the pioneers in advancing the discipline of marketing in Indonesia. They have an interesting story too and is one of the few companies competing head on with big multinational consulting companies in Indonesia. I am not saying it only because I am supposed to do this, but I really believe it. Please help me with tips on how to make this article about the company more notable, neutral and objective. I have tried to do this by including minimal information about the company but more about the knowledge-based concepts they have come up with over the years, as well as some of the international best-selling books authored by the company's founder.

Consider it a polite disclaimer and please help. Any help is appreciated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Priyanka2887 (talk • contribs) 08:33, 17 May 2017 (UTC)

The article is very poorly sourced. Wikipedia requires there to be in-depth coverage in reliable, independent published sources. We have no interest in what the company says about itself and if there are no reliable sources about them, then we cannot have an article. The books by the company's founder are irrelevant and do not help with notability. Theroadislong (talk) 08:45, 17 May 2017 (UTC)

Revising

Excuse me sir I am the public relations coordinator here at LSU Health Shreveport and I am just wondering why I am not allowed to make changes on behalf of my institution when it is my job to do so? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lisa Babin (talk • contribs) 17:08, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

The very fact that you are the public relations coordinator of LSU Health Sciences Center Shreveport is the reason why you shouldn't be making changes to the article. As pointed out on your user page, you have a clear conflict of interest, you can make suggestions on the talk page for others to consider but you are strongly advised not to edit the article directly especially when your additions are promotional and not neutral in tone. You also need to make a declaration of paid editing on your user page. Theroadislong (talk) 17:18, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

COI for LSU Health Sciences Center Shreveport

Theroadislong,

I am the Director of Public Affairs for LSU Health Shreveport -- I apologize for any issues I may have caused in trying to edit the content on the page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LSU_Health_Sciences_Center_Shreveport ... but there are some factual inaccuracies on the page that have been noted by both current faculty and prospective students looking to join our institution.

The issue is the following statement:

Since 2016, the LSU medical school in Shreveport has grappled with financial threats to its continued existence. LSU President F. King Alexander said that the troubles date to 2013, when the private Biomedical Research Foundation of Northwest Louisiana assumed control of the teaching hospital as part of then-Governor Bobby Jindal's plan to privatize the state charity hospital system. Alexander said that the foundation has not paid hospital bills in full and provides insufficient funding to sustain the medical school.[2]

While the privatization of our teaching hospital did in fact make the institution reconfigure its financial model, our "continued existence" is not threatened or in jeopardy, as the inaccurate Shreveport Times article referenced implies. The headline of the referenced article alone -- LSU's Shreveport Medical School on Life Support" is inaccurate. I do not seek to promote the school through Wikipedia, but as Director of Public Affairs, I am responsible for making sure one-sided articles that negatively reflect our institution are responded to. If you could advise me on the how to dispute the section and referenced article, I would greatly appreciate your assistance.

Sincerely, Lisa Babin — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lisa Babin (talk • contribs) 17:29, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

You will need to discuss the issues on the article's talk page and provide reliable, independent published sources to support your version of events. According to our policy WP:VERIFY, everything you add needs to be directly supported by what we consider to be a reliable sources (which ideally are independent).Theroadislong (talk) 17:40, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

"Vandalism" drama over paranormal edits

Nope. Those articles are positively riddled with extreme bias from the atheist-skeptic movement. The unsubstantiated allegations of "fraud and quackery" are typical Randi-style venom, complete with cherry-picked scandalous examples and smug, dog-whistling language. Nearly every paranormal article on this site is pure religious intolerance against Pagans and Witch-folk. There is nothing "neutral" whatever about the POV. I'll keep correcting that unfair slant every single time that I see it. Sorry; not sorry. Wakebrew (talk) 15:41, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

Are you going to give me a clue as to which articles you are referring to? Theroadislong (talk) 15:43, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

Ahh, I see on the article Psychic you changed "A psychic is a person who claims to use extrasensory perception (ESP)' to "A psychic is a person who uses extrasensory perception (ESP)" good luck with that. Theroadislong (talk) 15:47, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

NPOVs for every article in question. I did not "introduce incorrect information deliberately"; I did just the opposite- I removed weasel-phrases, dog-whistles and slanderous insults to the paranormal community. Wakebrew (talk) 20:14, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia sides with science in these matters not pseudoscience. Theroadislong (talk) 20:19, 18 May 2017 (UTC)