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Mike Peden Wiki Page

OK, thanks for your help I understand. Sadly seems too complicated. I only wanted to try and make the page look more appealing.

Hey I lost touch! I was blocked for only editing about one person I had no info on anyone else Jaleelpick (talk) 07:44, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Moses Olufemi

HI Theroadislong. I'm sure you are doing pretty fine. You left a message for me on my talk page related to the above draft article. On the above draft article, you said IMDB is not a reliable source. I have just fixed the issue and put a reliable source. You can go review it. Thanks.

Article Dragos Iliescu

Hello, thank you for your comment on my article Dragos Iliescu. I ammended it according to your feedback. Looking forward for your reply.

Draft: DC Comics Complete Reprint

Hello. Hopefully, this is a good place to leave a message.

The goal of the titular draft (that I hope becomes a webpage) is to help new comic fans or collectors quickly find comics to read. For instance, all Silver Age Flash comics spanned from Showcase #4- Flash #199. Having a webpage that allows readers to quickly locate comic collections that reprint all the comics within that Era would benefit. Some overlap, such as the Omnibus reprinting Showcase in black-and-white. But, the goal is to let readers know if they like a specific format, which character/team or age has a complete run. Does that clarify matters?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Trade_Finance_Technology_(TradeTech)>

Hi there,

You gave some good comments on the draft of the TradeTech page before (including some valuable pointers on "solutions"). I have since amended the page. Would it be I impossible to spare a few minutes and give it another once-over? Apologies, appreciate you will be busy but any pointers are super helpful and very welcome.

Thanks so much and all the best.

Response to "Paid Editing"

Thank you for informing. I just read the terms and conditions related to paid contributions/editing. According to it, i added the required details, both on the talk page of the article Draft talk:Razi Ahmed and my user page. I'll just edit the requirements on my user page, according to what you have mentioned. Please let me know if it's correct. Thank you!

Page Jonathan Kubben

Hi, thank you again for your feedback. I one question following our exchange :

I would like to add 4 other article links in the Notes and references section : 2. Can you tell me if this is correct? And if otherwise, how should I use it?

Here are the link in question : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Jonathan_Kubben#Notes_et_references

Many thanks.

Tinius Olsen Group

Can you please tell me where this is propagandist, all the information written is correct and very useful for students and engineers. So can you publish it, if this article is showing the purpose of promotion, please refer to the given Wikipedia page- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instron https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zwick_Roell_Group https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shimadzu

Tinius Olsen Group's article is not for the purpose of promotion, it is only for materials testing information sharing and is very helpful for all Wikipedia users and readers. So please publish it.

Thank you so much.

Compensation disclosure Telekom Serbia wiki article

I hereby claim that I receive no direct or indirect compensation for my edits on the Telekom Srbija wikipedia page, nor do I expect to receive compensation in any form from any company.

Nevaeh Saga Novels

Becbec814 (talk · contribs) No draft specified! "I am not a Wikipedia page writer, and I want the best for this writer that has shown that he should be on here, for a mastery of works, and pending world records, that should be seen and shard via a Encyclopedia, via online refences and public webpages, I have done all that I can at this point. I would like to ask kindly to make changes that best help make this page happen as it should. Thanks!"

All notable things asked for have been added.

why are you blocking without any valid reason the creation of a valid article in EN wikipedia while same one exists in other languages?

why are you blocking without any valid reason the creation of a valid article in EN wikipedia while same one exists in other languages? — Preceding unsigned comment added by MercuryRising451 (talk • contribs) 22:35, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

Your draft Draft:Triggo has no reliable independent sources, you have also created a similar draft on your user page which is not allowed, the fact that there exists an article on the topic in another language Wikipedia is irrelevant they are all separate and have their own guidelines. Theroadislong (talk) 22:43, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

@Theroadislong: just ignore this character. They have been leaving all kinds of nasty posts all over the place, and we know where that leads. Happy holidays! (it's ThatMontrealIP, btw). Possibly (talk) 22:51, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

Yes I can see where it's going...Happy holidays to you too! Theroadislong (talk) 22:53, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

@Theroadislong: :@Politely: have been leaving all kinds of nasty BLCKING AND NON COLLABORATIVE CONTRIBUTIONS all over the place, and we know where that leads. Lets see if this can lead to building an article insted of CONSTIPATING building good articles - because thanks to such constipation there are NONE in existence. Maybe you should be editing pottery barn articles instead of ones on cars.

@Theroadislong: :@Politely:

how about you collaboratively assist THEM to create a good startup page for this and some other articles thra are missing like Renault Microcar? All you can do is block. This was just a start for an article, more links to be added. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MercuryRising451 (talk • contribs) 23:21, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

Possible sources for a draft article include *https://www.electrive.com/2020/05/11/triggo-reveals-light-electric-vehicle-with-adjustable-width/

• https://thedriven.io/2020/05/13/triggo-unveils-micro-electric-car-that-can-adjust-its-track-width/
• https://www.renewableenergymagazine.com/electric_hybrid_vehicles/triggo-unveils-microelectric-car-to-launch-globally-20200715

Start adding content from these sources and it's entirely possible the article will be accepted. Theroadislong (talk) 23:27, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

Sounds good. it was a START not a final version...

Thank you for finally exuding some COLLABORATION this Christmas. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MercuryRising451 (talk • contribs) 23:28, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

I just added the links you recommended. I appreciate it. So how do I proceed now? I want ot create more articles on Renault after I finish this one. I want to add more on this one as well

It is nearly midnight so I am off to bed, I suggest you read WP:YFA for help with your first article. Creating articles is the MOST difficult task on Wikipedia and not something that you do in a few minutes with no experience. I'll take another look tomorrow, but any more abuse, and you are on your own. Theroadislong (talk) 23:52, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

I appreciate you input...please next time just write new people back without an BLOCK AND DECLINE as first response  :-) Happy Holidays and Apologies. :-) — Preceding unsigned comment added by MercuryRising451 (talk • contribs) 00:12, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

Cyphoidbomb, Possibly, Theroadislong: I stumbled upon the discussion with this user at... well, multiple locations... and issued a warning about civility on their talk page (see this diff). I appreciate your patience in dealing with them, but if the vitriol directed at other editors such as yourselves becomes more pointed, please let me know. --Kinu ^t/_c 03:06, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

@Kinu: Thanks. Based on their impassioned fist-shaking, I'm getting the sense that they may not be suited to the collaborative nature of this project. It's certainly not for everybody. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 03:16, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

The Central Banks.com

This is a personal project that I am building on the internet. Why can't I make an article on Wikipedia about a project that I am working on? I admin this site and it is growing day by day. What is required of me to reference my internet project on wikipedia? Thanks for your time.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thesireofplebs (talk • contribs) 22:39, 26 December 2020 (UTC) 

Thesireofplebs Wikipedia has no interest in what you want to say about your own website. Wikipedia summarizes what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about a website, showing how it meets Wikipedia's special definition of a a notable website. Theroadislong (talk) 07:57, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

Rejection of CrossRealms Series Page

Hello, I would like to know why you felt this page, CrossRealms Series, was not suitable. You mentioned it was not widespread enough to gain inclusion. S.C. Principale's works have been on Amazon's best seller lists for short erotica and the CrossRealms series now has five titles as well as two others being published in 2021. Romance is the best-selling genre currently, with mystery being the second best, and this series combines both genres. Not only that, but the CrossRealms series includes not only straight characters but LGBTQ characters. All five books include messages that support gender equality. I understand that some people may not enjoy those genres, but numerous other authors and series in fantasy, romance, mystery, etc. have Wikipedia pages. So, can you please clarify why this series is being rejected and what I would need to do to get Wikipedia to consider it "worthy of inclusion"? Thank you Teachme23Teachme23 (talk) 19:08, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

Teachme23 In order for an article’s subject to be considered notable by the Wikipedia community, we require that it receive significant coverage in multiple reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject this is what you base an article on, your draft has no such sources only a link to Amazon which is not reliable or independent, sorry. Theroadislong (talk) 19:14, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

CrossRealms Rejection

Hi there, responding to your comment that the material must receive"significant coverage in multiple reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject this is what you base an article on, your draft has no such sources only a link to Amazon which is not reliable or independent, sorry. 

Actually, I also included a second link to GoodReads, which is independent and in no way owned by S.C. Principale or the CrossRealms series. I'll be happy to add other links. I'm curious as to why a link to the author's page would not be acceptable though, since it is where one would find a summary of each of the books? Wouldn't I need that, as well as the link from GoodReads or some other source, to establish that I'm providing an accurate description of the characters, storyline, etc? Are you saying I CANNOT use those links, or simply that I need to include others in ADDITION?

Thank you, Teachme23Teachme23 (talk) 19:21, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

The author's page would be a primary source and cannot be used to establish any notability Goodreads is not a reliable source as it is user edited. Theroadislong (talk) 19:38, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

Reply from User:RSLLX on paid editing

You mention ‘paid editing’. No I am not being paid! I have written the article because I admire Ms Radstone’s work and when I looked on Wikipedia it seemed as if nothing had been produced. I am retired-teacher - and certainly no one has suggested payment- most of all me! RSLLX RSLLX (talk) 16:54, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

Speaking of notforum

See my talk page and the editor's talk page before deletion.[1] - I seem to have violated his constitutional rights. Doug Weller talk 06:50, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Branch Insurance

Hello Theroadislong! Thank you for taking a look at my submission. I appreciate the time you took and your critical eye. I will continue editing the article so that it meets the criteria for notability. I believe my mistake came from the fact that there are several other articles about companies in similar positions (e.g., Kin Insurance and Hippo (company)) with similar sources, that have been published on Wikipedia, so I thought that this would be sufficient. I had also started a draft on another insurer, Clearcover(though not submitted for review yet), but I'm concerned that that submission will suffer a similar fate to my one on Branch, because the sources will be similar. Is it your view that articles like Kin Insurance and Hippo (company) should not be published, and that therefore the ones on Branch and Clearcover shouldn't be either, assuming that the secondary sources will be of the same type? Thanks again! InsuranceLovers (talk) 20:00, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

Certainly Kin Insurance is tagged for notability and reading like an advert so to base another article on that one is pointless. See WP:OSE. Amazon, blogs and press releases are not suitable sources either. Theroadislong (talk) 20:32, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

@Theroadislong: Thank you. I have added references from the following sources, among others: TechOhio (a publication of the State of Ohio government), a research paper from the Milken Institute, Columbus CEO Magainze, Insurance Innovation Reporter, Colubmus Business First, Digital Insurance, Insurance Technology Professional Magazine and Insurance Journal. I'll be submitting for reconsideration. Thank you. InsuranceLovers (talk) 15:54, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

@Theroadislong: Thanks for taking a new look at it. You wrote: "The promotional trumpery in the second paragraph is cited to their own website!" I don't see information about the structure of its underwriting as promotional trumpery. This information is meaningful and interesting to people interested in insurance. Would you suggest I remove this section or include a citation to a different source for it?InsuranceLovers (talk) 16:26, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

the content is totally inappropriate and promotional, we have zero interest in what the company has to say about itself, do you have a conflict of interest by any chance?. Theroadislong (talk)

@Theroadislong: I can't understand how information about reinsurance is inappropriate and promotional. For people in the insurance industry, this is important information. I have swapped out the citation for one to an article by Coverager which includes the same information. I do not have a conflict of interest. I have no relationship with Branch, Kin, Hippo, or ClearCover, or any of the other insurance companies' pages that I have edited or will edit in the future.

Draft:Ellen Alexander

I am inclined to believe one statement made by Domnipal. They say that they had not been aware of the work done by the other two paid editors. I believe that. The agency who is employing Domnipal on behalf of Ellen Alexander didn't tell Domnipal that the other two paid editors had submitted an earlier draft. One version had originally been disambiguated, and the other had not been disambiguated. Any article will require disambiguation, because there is already a different Ellen Alexander. So their employer didn't give them adequate information. That isn't the fault of Domnipal, maybe, but it is the fault of the agency. It is Domnipal's fault that they insulted GSS. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:43, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

A New Year With Women in Red!

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--Megalibrarygirl (talk) 03:02, 29 December 2020 (UTC) via MassMessaging

Hi Theroadislong, thank you for your message on the draft article. this article is much improved and comprehensive in terms of references and verifiable sources. Hope this is in line with Wiki guidelines. thank you again for the support. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Indiansocialwork (talk • contribs) 13:23, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Webull

Hi @Theroadislong, nice to meet you! I noticed you've reviewed a few previous drafts of Draft:Webull. I wanted to let you know I rewrote the article and I would like to see what you think. Cheers! —FORMALDUDE^(talk) 07:33, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

@Theroadislong —FORMALDUDE^(talk) 04:18, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

Happy New Year!

	Happy New Year!
	Hello Theroadislong: Did you know ... that back in 1885, Wikipedia editors wrote Good Articles with axes, hammers and chisels? Thank you for your contributions to this encyclopedia using 21st century technology. I hope you don't get any unnecessary blisters. Starzoner (talk) 15:20, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

Spread the WikiLove; use {{subst:Happy New Year elves}} to send this message

I wish you a prosperous 2021! Starzoner (talk) 15:20, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

Happy New Year, Theroadislong!

Happy New Year!

Theroadislong,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 18:07, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

   Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year fireworks}} to user talk pages.

Thanks

Thanks for continuing to help after I reached my limit. The casual "we'll work on it next week" was my final straw. See here; I need to push back :) Happy New Year! SandyGeorgia (Talk) 18:16, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

SandyGeorgia It's all looking like it will be much better now, it's a steep learning curve for new users. Happy new year to you too! Theroadislong (talk) 18:22, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

I hope so; they are good faith editors, but there are days when I need to acknowledge that my mentoring efforts have maxxed out :) I do enjoy mentoring new users, but today I had so planned to do a lot of content work, and that just kept going. Well, others are helping now, so hopefully my lack of patience will work out in the longer run. Best, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 19:27, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

Resubmitting Arctic Wolf Networks Article Submission

Hi, Thank you for your feedback on my initial Arctic Wolf Networks submission. I edited the original submission to remove the "Leadership" section that might be considered "commercial" and did some other miscellaneous polishing. Note that I included the Deloitte Fast 500 award mentions along with the Gartner mention to substantiate that Arctic Wolf is a significant firm that justifies a Wikipedia entry. Arctic Wolf is a major player in managed security services industry according to Gartner and Forrester, the two major IT industry analyst firms. I think the article is neutral and compares favorably to other cybersecurity articles I read for reference like Secureworks and SentinelOne. If you have any issues, I would appreciate any specific comments you might have so I can address any issues. Best wishes for 2021! Cryptodd (talk) 23:59, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

Hey

So I saw you removed my system which isn’t a problem but you also removed a notable person I had put on there... any chance I can add it back? ByronPH (talk) 19:40, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

Your edit at List of people from the Royal Borough of Kingston upon Thames added a non notable person, the list is only for people who already have Wikipedia articles. Theroadislong (talk) 19:44, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Gianfranco Iannuzzi

Hi I've been declined with my draft for the artist and art director "Gianfranco Iannuzzi" and I've received this message:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

I understand it, but I have a question about it: What kind of coverage do you need? Because the subject in question has his name mentioned in all of his works published, but all the interviews, articles and publications are mostly in papers and magazines. Online you can find a very little about it, only the "passing mentions" written above. I can have proofs, if are needed, scans of the articles, but online it is hard to find something long and useful all about the subject of the page, (not to mention an homonymous person). So, how many mentions do we need to validate the page? Or how much internet coverage?

Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Immersivearteditor (talk • contribs) 14:47, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

Sources don't have to be online you can just use the title, publisher date etc of any offline source. Theroadislong (talk) 15:11, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

Second Draft Review Request

Good afternoon! I'm wondering if it would be possible for you to take another peek at my submitted draft here. You declined it back on December 1, and I've since made changes to it and resubmitted for review. Thank you for any feedback - I appreciate your help! --Jcollinsycc (talk) 18:21, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

My initial comments still apply, there is still unsourced content there which needs to be addressed and please remove all instances of "Dr" they are not required. I will leave it for another reviewer to decide. Theroadislong (talk) 18:29, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for your help! Jcollinsycc (talk) 19:10, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

George Gadson Article - For Review

Hi Theroadislong,

I am enquiring about the Approval of Article for Creation "Artist George Gadson" (Submission at Articles for creation: George E. Gadson (September 5) Which was created as an article by Swan Communications, Inc.

I have created Articles for clients before and did not have to file a Disclosure. So I am curious if this is a new guideline, as well as there are many companies out there, that write Wikipedia articles for compensation.

I few points to note: I am Editing the Page now, however I did create it in the first place.

We are now seeking Approval for Publication and it has been in the works since September.

I don't want to say that I am being paid for this publication for financial stakes; as I am the Writer of this Article. I write all Mr. Gadson's work that requires Writing.

However, I don't feel that there is an undisclosed financial stake in promoting this subject, nor is the article promotional. It is a clear Wikipedia type review of this national artist's Life, and Work, with more than forty[five online sources and references. I don't consider this a promotional endeavor by any means. Mr. Gadson is a national artist with Encyclopedia worthiness and more than 20 year's in artworks, experience, market value. press and notoriety.

I would be thankful if you can let us know what necessary steps we can take soonest, to get this page published. It has been more than six months.

And also so that I may know if I am ever to write again for future clients, I can assess the pitfalls ahead of time.

Thank you so much, Swancomm13

You say "We are now seeking Approval" Wikipedia accounts are very strictly for single person use, paid editing is allowed if grudgingly by some of us, undisclosed paid editing will almost always result in being blocked. Theroadislong (talk) 19:11, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

Malformed request?

This seems mal-formed.

Try again by expanding the "How to open an investigation [show]" line here and filling it out. You may need to have the original deleted for the fill-in-form to work right though. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 🎄 19:32, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

Untitled 4 January 2021

I disclosed to you about my other Writing for Wikipedia, and instead of helping me you Flagged and Rejected my Article? Why? I am trying to do the right thing, not HIDE a CRIME.

What can I do to save the Article George Gadson, that has more than forty-five references, yet you say it is not noteworthy?

Please help... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.96.210.100 (talk) 19:36, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

Clean Up George Gadson Article

Please tell what I can do to save this article from Rejection? — Preceding unsigned comment added by SwanComm13 (talk • contribs) 19:49, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

You can do nothing until you respond by either stating that you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits, or by complying with the mandatory requirements under the Wikimedia Terms of Use that you disclose your employer, client and affiliation. Theroadislong (talk) 19:53, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

George Gadson Article - For Review

I haven't made any more edits.

I am trying to understand what I need to do to save this article from being Rejected.

If I file the Disclosure, can I re-submit? — Preceding unsigned comment added by SwanComm13 (talk • contribs) 19:53, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

George Gadson Article - For Review

I said We, because I am his Writer. So single person use means that every Wikipedia item is written by the Subject? Presidents, Artists, Businesses, all write their own Wikipedia Entries? This is where I am confused.

There are a multitude of companies selling Wikipedia Article Submission. Do they all work for Wikipedia?

I have no problem Disclosing my Paid Writing. I write his words.

It is not an advertorial, which is usually where a journalistic conflict of interest arises. Hence my confusion.

I disclosed in earnest, not by Accident.

It is not a journalistic conflict of interest. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SwanComm13 (talk • contribs) 20:16, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

It appears you have entirely miss-understood how Wikipedia works you say "single person use means that every Wikipedia item is written by the Subject?" Virtually nobody writes their own Wikipedia article, people completely unconnected write the articles, we have zero interest in what the articles subject wants to say about themselves. User accounts are for single person use only, they are not to be shared with anyone else including the article's subject. You have conntinued to edit Wikipedia here without first making the required declaration on your user page, you are also abusing the system by editing with other accounts or whilst logged out. Theroadislong (talk) 20:26, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Theroadislong, you may want to read the username- and file-upload-related notes I left on User talk:SwanCom707, User talk:SwanComm13, Commons:User talk:SwanCom707, and Commons:User talk:SwanComm13. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 🎄 01:38, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

Editing While Logged Out

Ok, I need you to stop being RUDE and treating me like a criminal.

1. I didn't know that leaving messages in Talk was an Edit, because that is the only "Editing" I am doing!

2. I am trying to decide, by talking to Wiki Editors, whether it is worth it for me to continue to get this page Published, as it is Rejected and we are assessing the subject's Notability.

3. Sometimes when you note comes in, I may answer from my email, forgetting that I am not logged in, and then Log In.

That is the only interaction I am having with Wikipedia! I am not EDITING!

And why do you continue to NOT help and talk to me like a dog! How were you raised?!

I am not doing anything belligerently or criminally. I may make mistakes from not knowing, but I am trying to educate myself so that I can stay on track. And to do that, I have to talk to people who can help me, which many Wiki Editors who have now become involved are doing. Except YOU.

You continue to be Rude, no information to help, accusative and suspicious.

What is wrong with you?! — Preceding unsigned comment added by SwanComm13 (talk • contribs) 11:12, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

Undeclared paid editing is a breach of the terms of use that you have to agree to abide by when you edit here, and Wikipedia takes editing in areas where you have a personal or professional interest very seriously. Theroadislong (talk) 11:17, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

Revision to ABC Bank Kenya page

Hi Theroadislong. Thanks for your help. Please let me know the exact statement and I will be happy to amend or pull it down to show factual information. Thanks.Ruth Mbugua (talk) 11:25, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

Disclose

That is not true. Again you are being accusatory.

You didn't Discover me! I gave up this information, in earnest; not because I was trying to hide or be sneaky, but because I was trying understand WHY and IF, for sure. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SwanComm13 (talk • contribs) 15:58, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for your review of Angela Clarke (British Writer, on Bahrain). I have updated it. Can you check again and let me know if any more updates are needed.

````mejoel — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mejoel (talk • contribs) 06:28, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

Robert Pearce Elworthy

Hi.

I understand that concern is raised about the neutrality (or otherwise) of the Start article on Robert Pearce Elworthy. It would be helpful to have a conversation about this issue. My phone number is 01892 525280. Philip Clarkson Webb (talk) 15:04, 7 January 2021 (UTC) Philip Clarkson Webb.

No thank you, anything you have to say can be said on the article's talk page for all to see, Talk:Robert Pearce Elworthy. Theroadislong (talk) 15:11, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

its reliable

isnt IMDB reliable pleasebro approve it — Preceding unsigned comment added by Geroge Mason (talk • contribs) 16:56, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

IMDb is user edited so is not considered reliable sorry. Theroadislong (talk) 17:03, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

Request on 22:04:28, 7 January 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by Madbradaustin

• Madbradaustin (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Sam Grow (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Thank you for your feedback on my submission. For a recording artist (music) most of the secondary sources will be music based such as biographical interviews, music profiles on music platforms, etc. Can you give an example or two that I can source for a suitable second source for this type of individual that IS acceptable? I've linked website articles, video and print interviews, news recaps of events, etc. I'm struggling to identify what that secondary source would be. Would it be safe to assume most of what I've added already is more a Primary source versus a secondary source based on this page? --> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:No_original_research#Primary,_secondary_and_tertiary_sources

Thank you greatly for your time and feedback Madbradaustin (talk)Madbradaustin

Madbradaustin (talk) 22:04, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

I think probably all your sources would be considered primary, independent reviews in the music press would be useful if you can find any. Theroadislong (talk) 22:14, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

eikoku roshukai page...

hi, I just realised the sample text I put in sounds more like an advert than a history narrative! I have no experience at this, so might need some help to link in to other pages etc... I would like it to end up something like the British Kendo association page, and also add some documents (as pdf's?) that people can read... I want to be able to link to Muso jikiden eishin ryu, but even the help page is a bit beyond what I understand about creating text on the web... any help appreciated...

regards, Tim — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chidokan (talk • contribs) 22:39, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Clay Millican

Thank you for reviewing my draft and for making notations. I have edited the references and I trust the changes are what is needed. Thank you again for the constructive criticism as this is my first attempt at submission of an article to Wikikpedia.Pastormikeu (talk) 21:41, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

I have rewritten several paragraphs to show a more neutral tone. Again, I thank you for the advice Pastormikeu (talk) 23:09, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

Mother Teresa: The Saint and Her Nation

Thank you very much for reading the draft page. Mother Teresa: The Saint and Her Nation

Please note that all the information is correct and comes from the book published by Bloomsbury Academic in 2020: https://www.google.co.uk/books/edition/Mother_Teresa/0aL8DwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=alpion&printsec=frontcover

As you correctly note the information also available from Bloomsbury website: https://www.bloomsbury.com/us/mother-teresa-9789389165067/

However, I though it would be better if I referenced the google book website mentioned above.

Happy to take on board advice how to resolve this issue.

Thanks again — Preceding unsigned comment added by Penestet (talk • contribs) 20:46, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

The content is copyrighted and cannot be used, all content needs to be written in your own words, the draft has been rejected. Theroadislong (talk) 20:50, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

I would have been happy to edit the draft page according to instructions but you or someone else had deleted it. All that work has gone for nothing! Is it possible to retrieve the deleted draft? Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Penestet (talk • contribs) 13:32, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

Penestet You copied and pasted copyright content from elsewhere, you cannot do that, an admin is unlikely to undelete it for that reason. Theroadislong (talk) 13:40, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

Thank you. This could have been easily rectified. The issue is can the draft page be retrieved so I can edit it accordingly. The excerpts from quotes were taken from the book and they were duly referenced. I do not mind starting the page afresh after a few weeks (I am afraid I am very busy these days) but it is a shame all that work yesterday went for nothing. I fully agree with your decision to delete the draft page, however. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Penestet (talk • contribs) 14:35, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

You would have to speak to the deleting admin Jimfbleak, I am not an admin. Theroadislong (talk) 14:38, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

Article review

Hello Theroadislong ... i got the comment you left on the article contribution [Dratf:Chigan Madu] and i noticed the article was not approved for being notable...i followed all the notability guidelines before creating the article and the sources are verified sources and not a press release !! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Grhodig2017 (talk • contribs) 17:06, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

You will need to demonstrate that you pass the criteria at WP:GNG. Theroadislong (talk) 17:15, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Two of the three sources currently in the draft are in fact the same press release. The third source (Vanguard) reads exactly like a press release as well – even if it's not a PR, it is still not independent since it is entirely promotional in tone, and built around quotes from Madu himself. --bonadea contributions talk

Am sorry for the rough editing

Wealth ZZZ (talk) 18:08, 10 January 2021 (UTC)Wealth ZZZWealth ZZZ (talk) 18:08, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Thomas Joseph Scanlon

Hi:

Thanks for your comments on my draft page about my deceased father.

I am not sure how to respond to comments, so I just left a message for Modussiccandi after he declined the draft page on Thomas Joseph Scanlon, who died in 2015.

As my father was recognized internationally for his lifetime contributions to the study of disasters, and a book he wrote (Catastrophe: Stories and Lessons from the Halifax Explosion) was just published, I thought he met the standard for a Wikipedia page.

I tried to keep the page objective and all of the information is drawn from indicated sources or from his own memoirs, which are not published (which I assume might be a problem).

The question I asked Modussiccandi is whether I should edit out the information I took from my father's memoirs and only cite available sources. I was under the impression it was okay to write about someone I knew if I kept the information objective.

Thanks for any feedback as I'm not clear how or if to proceed.

Sincerely

Not sure how to sign my posts Scanlonjd (talk) 00:04, 12 January 2021 (UTC) ?

scanlonjd

James David Scanlon (Dave)— Preceding unsigned comment added by scanlonjd (talk • contribs)

(talk page watcher)@Theroadislong and Modussiccandi: I noticed this draft and gave it a trim to remove the unsourced material. Seems like he might pass WP:NPROF, but I did not assess any of the sources. Possibly (talk) 03:14, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

More information added to Draft:Dana Distortion Yavin

Hi Nathan!

Happy New Year. I've researched some more and added new information I found on Dana Distortion's work. I think it's all legit sources? Also, I organized, cleaned, and fixed the draft according to your recent notes. Please let me know what you think?

Thanks, and looking forward to hearing back from you.

Nora — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nora Shelly (talk • contribs) 18:35, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Christoffer Harlang

Hi Theroadislong :) It was not translated for the danish page - but a lot of the info is also on the danish page ... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Christopherhjortholt (talk • contribs) 19:00, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia cannot be used as a reference, you have only one source for your draft, you need to reference every single substantive fact with an independent, reliable source. Theroadislong (talk) 19:09, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

Gabriel Aduda

Hello, how are you doing?

I have made some changes and added more references to the article. I have also re-submitted for your kind review.

Seuntechnaire (talk) 22:37, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

Regarding draft: DanaDistortionYavin

Hi again, thanks for replying. I'm not sure what "independent of Yavin" means? Can you please explain?

Thanks Nora — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nora Shelly (talk • contribs) 00:24, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Draft: Dana Distortion Yavin

Hi again, Just a quick note. As I'm a fan of Dana's work and since this is the first time I write an article on Wikipedia I tried to look at other photographers I admire that seems to be in the same category and the sources seemed to be very similar.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katarina_Benzova https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danny_Clinch

Would appreciate your input on what should be added or changed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nora Shelly (talk • contribs) 01:34, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Article for creation

I will like to get some help from you and I would be glad if you can do so. I want to create a new page Name: Nbn by FiberMax and I just want to know if you would be able to review it when done for fast approval. Please kindly leave me a message Wealth ZZZ (talk) 10:32, 13 January 2021 (UTC) Wealth ZZZ Wealth ZZZ (talk) 10:32, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Wealth ZZZ That would depend on whether it met the relevant criteria, notability of a topic is judged by looking at the depth of coverage in independent, reliable, secondary sources.

Novice editors are commonly advised to cite at least three independent, reliable, secondary sources containing significant coverage. Good luck. Theroadislong (talk) 10:41, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Gianfranco Cicogna Mozzoni

Hello Theroadislong,

I wanted saw that you recently reviewed my article but it was rejected, I have looked at some of your articles and I have to say you are a very talented writer😁. Gianfranco is a man who has had a great impact here in Kenya and although I know that his article might not be what you were looking for, but I wanted to know if you could please do us a favour and accept this article to so it may be published, this would really mean a lot to us.

Yours Sincerely, Ben Aching. Achting428 (talk) 22:30, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

Your draft Draft:Gianfranco Cicogna Mozzoni was declined NOT rejected, you need to add sources. No draft would ever be accepted by anyone without any sources. If he has had a great impact in Kenya it will be simple to find and add the sources that support that, good luck. Theroadislong (talk) 22:38, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

Ok that sounds great I’ll add in some sources, thank you. Achting428 (talk) 11:29, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Shochiku Studio

Hi. I would like you to kindly re-view the subject again as I added additional contents and references I think enough for "significant coverage". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hama takashi (talk • contribs) 12:24, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Please review draft

Hello, I updated my article as per your requirements. Please take a look over it when you get the chance:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Amina_Muaddi

Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Xforeverlove24 (talk • contribs) 14:32, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

AfC reviewed

Hi there. I noticed you have recently reviewed my first AfC submission.. thank you! Before you reviewed it however, someone else had reviewed it and marked it as not accepted. What does your subsequent review mean? Do I need to do anything, like re-submit the page? Do I keep waiting for more reviews? thanks for any help! MurphCooper (talk) 15:37, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

MurphCooper I have not made any edits to your draft or reviewed it? I may have marked the page as patrolled maybe that is what you saw? Theroadislong (talk) 15:53, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Theroadislong No edits have been made, but I definitely have a notification saying "The page Draft:Broadwick Live has been reviewed". And then your username is underneath..

Tiz a mystery to me, I'm afraid, sorry! Theroadislong (talk) 16:39, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Gianfranco Cicogna Mozzoni

Hello Theroadislong,

I have added in the sources for the article about Gianfranco Cicogna Mozzoni, I hope it’s all ok now, please let me know if I have to add anything else.

Yours sincerely, Ben Aching Achting428 (talk) 16:55, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

I have also re submitted the draft.👍 Achting428 (talk) 16:55, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Very helpful, thorough and hard-working. Also, tough, but fair. Thank you! Ryancoke2020 (talk) 17:00, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Gianfranco Cicogna Mozzoni

Hello Theroadislong,

I saw your comment about having a neutral approach and theme throughout the article so I have made the changes and published them, they should be fixed now. Please let me know if you would like me to change anything else, I am finding your guidance very helpful as I am learning new things that I will use when I take on other articles😁.

Thank you very much, Ben Aching. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Achting428 (talk • contribs) 21:31, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Recent Article on Clarke Waggaman

Thank you for your feedback on my recent article. This is my first wikipedia submission, so I have been having difficulty contributing on this platform, but am enjoying the learning process. I recently rewrote the majority of the article so that direct quotes were removed to avoid any copyright infringements. I also added more citations and articles to help strengthen the article's integrity. If you could kindly review these changes, I'd love for this lost architect of DC to have a wikipedia page to get more people talking about his work. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mike0000145 (talk • contribs) 16:57, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Same names

Thanks for your feed back Theroadislong. Can I take the page down? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bernie Masterson (talk • contribs) 17:53, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

You can just blank the page which will indicate that you wish it to be deleted. Theroadislong (talk) 18:02, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Help

You rejected my article, can you give me more reasons how its bad? — Preceding unsigned comment added by DavidPlayzYT (talk • contribs) 22:37, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Your draft User:DavidPlayzYT/sandbox/Another Small Step (ROBLOX Movie was rejected because it has zero sources and no indication of how it might be notable. Theroadislong (talk) 22:39, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Draft: Tomos Roberts

Hello Theroadislong... It's only been one day since the draft was last declined, but that said, I've already removed approx. 33 links/references and I've significantly reduced the content of the draft - with much more to go. I've also removed many Wiki links within the body of the text as well as an entire section (which didn't belong). Please keep in mind that I'm a first responder and it's a very busy & dangerous time, so I'm only afforded so much time in the course of a day or night to edit the draft. I will address the YouTube links shortly, but I'd kindly ask for your indulgence.
Thank you,
Ryan (Ryancoke2020 (talk) 18:13, 14 January 2021 (UTC))

Hello Theroadislong... Update: I've removed the vast majority of the YouTube links, as requested. That said, I've spared a few because I believe they may be legitimate sources.

1. 14 - CNN (YouTube)
   
2. 31 - Constellation Dreamers (YouTube) ... This one's questionable, but perhaps?
   
3. 33 - BBC London (YouTube)
   
4. 39 - Sofar Sounds (YouTube) ... Perhaps questionable, but Sofar Sounds does have a Wikipedia page
   
5. 40 - Fuse TV Manchester - Manchester University (YouTube) ... Perhaps?
   
6. 44 - Britain's Got Talent (YouTube)
   
7. 45 - Good Morning Britain (YouTube)
   

At your convenience, please let me know if any of these YouTube links can be used as references. Thanks for your patience!
Ryan (Ryancoke2020 (talk) 20:27, 14 January 2021 (UTC))

I would not use any personally, I tend to think that if the content can't be sourced somewhere else then it probably shouldn't be included at all, but it certainly isn't forbidden to use YouTube in certain cases. Theroadislong (talk) 21:21, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

±== Draft:Sweet Cherry Publishing ==

Hi, sorry what do you mean by 'any independent sources?' — Preceding unsigned comment added by Diviakainth (talk • contribs) 21:58, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Sources independent of the company or the awards. Theroadislong (talk) 22:00, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

I have tried by best to find some new independent sources but it’s not easy to find any. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Diviakainth (talk • contribs) 22:15, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Acceptance is dependent on there being significant coverage of the company in independent sources. Theroadislong (talk) 22:20, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi - I've re-cited to independent sources. Please let me know if the article is now accepted :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dk36 (talk • contribs) 10:25, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Please check my latest edits and let me know if this can go live yet

Paruthumpara

Hi

Thanks for the comment.

I am pretty new to wikipedia edit and "Paruthumpara" is my first article.

I am on the learning process of creating articles.

Can you please tell me why the sentence "village is surrounded with beautiful greenery" is not neutral tone ?

I would like to learn more and will need help from experienced people like you.

Thanks

Ittymaathu — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ittymaathu (talk • contribs) 09:32, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi! What do you mean by "None of the sources support information" or something like this? I woul appreciate you fixing that page! — Preceding unsigned comment added by SkateboardingWiki (talk • contribs) 12:53, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Anna Foka Webpage!

Thank you ever so much for your comments. I have now edited the webpage and added sources and links.

Please let me know if the page is improved. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MachineLurer (talk • contribs) 15:03, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Thank you so much. The academic fits notability as is the director of the Centre for Digital Humanities at Uppsala University (Criterion 6) The person has held a highest-level elected or appointed administrative post at a major academic institution or major academic society.

see relevant link from the institution for verification.

https://katalog.uu.se/organisation/?orgId=X96:3

Thank you ever so much for your work. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MachineLurer (talk • contribs) 14:18, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

I think I have deleted that page now?

Hi there, I think I have deleted that page now. At least I hope I have as I don't want to cause any issue for anyone in the future.

thanks for your correspondence. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bernie Masterson (talk • contribs) 16:58, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

DREXSPORT, Wild Whey, Wild Muscle

Hi

Thank you for taking the time to review my pages so quickly. I was not in any way trying to fraudulently post any articles. I receive no direct or indirect payment from DREXSPORT. I certainly don't have shares in the company since it is not public and just a small business.

As a freelance editor, I came across the DREXSPORT webpage, and I was impressed. I do a lot of copywriting for people on Amazon (where I found DREXSPORT), but DREXSPORT is not compensating me. I deal with many Amazon sellers who sell just junk and go from one product to another. Yes, I know the owner and worked with him in the past. He is not paying me to post on Wikipedia. He is in his early 30s and built DREXSPORT from scratch. This year his company, DREXSPORT, is sponsoring athletes who cannot afford protein powder by giving free protein powder to 10 Indian athletes for free--a roughly $7,000 value. I think that is notable and honorable. DREXSPORT (the owner always wants to remain anonymous) is a special company--it is helping people. The owner was broke eight years ago, and now he is successful. He is a minimally educated Indian man who grew up in rural India. That sounds like the American Dream to me. His company is based in Wyoming.

I believe it's pretty special for him to sponsor athletes. He is very generous and wants to give back to his country. I think he deserves a Wikipedia page. Period. He is not paying me to post on Wikipedia. Actually, it was going to be a surprise.

I can see how the Wild Whey and Wild Muscle read like sales copy, but not the DREXSPORT article. I will take out links to Amazon. I thought I looked at Wikipedia's TOS carefully. Apparently, I missed something. This is on me. My goal is to make people aware of a small business and owner who beat the odds and gives to his community.

Please tell me what I need to do to change the DREXSPORT article so Wikipedia will publish it. I will forget about the two product pages. I wrote the article myself. No plagiarism was involved, and my intention was not to advertise. Tell me what to do to correct the error.

Thank you,

Linnea Reilly — Preceding unsigned comment added by LinneaReilly (talk • contribs) 09:13, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Notability of a topic is judged by looking at the depth of coverage in independent, reliable, secondary sources.

Novice editors are commonly advised to cite at least three independent, reliable, secondary sources containing significant coverage. Your drafts had zero reliable sources and were written like advertisements. They were rejected and will not be considered further, I think you may have miss-understood what Wikipedia is about. Theroadislong (talk) 09:22, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) @LinneaReilly: I think you're putting the cart before the horse; Wikipedia articles do not exist to raise awareness of the subject, as you have hoped (I think he deserves a Wikipedia page), but only serve as a record of what makes subjects notable. No amount of editing can rescue a subject from a lack of notability. You may want to pursue alternative outlets to raise awareness, which could potentially have the side effect of reliable secondary sources writing about DREXSPORT. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 17:55, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Wikilove goat

He's trying to get autoconfirmed. WP:NOTHERE I just reverted a series of useless edits. TimTempleton <sup>(talk) (cont)</sup> 20:27, 15 January 2021 (UTC)