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WikiCup 2012 October newsletter

The 2012 WikiCup has come to a close; congratulations to Cwmhiraeth (submissions), our 2012 champion! Cwmhiraeth joins our exclusive club of previous winners: Dreamafter (2007), jj137 (2008), Durova (2009), Sturmvogel 66 (2010) and Hurricanehink (2011). Our final standings were as follows:

1. Cwmhiraeth (submissions)
2. Sasata (submissions)
3. Grapple X (submissions)
4. Casliber (submissions)
5. Muboshgu (submissions)
6. Miyagawa (submissions)
7. Ruby2010 (submissions)
8. Dana Boomer (submissions)

Prizes for first, second, third and fourth will be awarded, as will prizes for all those who reached the final eight. Every participant who scored in the competition will receive a ribbon of participation. In addition to the prizes based on placement, the following special prizes will be awarded based on high performance in particular areas of content creation. So that the finalists do not have an undue advantage, the prize is awarded to the competitor who scored the highest in any particular field in a single round.

• The featured article award goes to Grapple X (submissions), for four featured articles in the final round.
• The good article award also goes to Grapple X (submissions), for 19 good articles in the second round.
• The list award goes to Muboshgu (submissions), for three featured lists in the final round.
• The topic award goes to Grapple X (submissions), for three good topics (with around 40 articles) in round 4.
• The did you know award goes to Cwmhiraeth (submissions), for well over 100 DYKs in the final round.
• The news award goes to ThaddeusB (submissions), for 10 in the news items in round 3.
• The picture award goes to Grandiose (submissions), for two featured pictures in round 2.
• The reviewer award goes to both Ruby2010 (submissions) (14 reviews in round 1) and Grandiose (submissions) (14 reviews in round 3).
• Finally, for achieving an incredible bonus point total in the final round, and for bringing the top-importance article frog to featured status, a biostar has been awarded to Cwmhiraeth (submissions).

Awards will be handed out in the coming days; please bear with us! This year's competition also saw fantastic contributions in all rounds, from newer Wikipedians contributing their first good or featured articles, right up to highly experienced Wikipedians chasing high scores and contributing to topics outside of their usual comfort zones. It would be impossible to name all of the participants who have achieved things to be proud of, but well done to all of you, and thanks! Wikipedia has certainly benefited from the work of this year's WikiCup participants.

Next year's WikiCup will begin in January. Currently, discussions and polls are open, and all contributions are welcome. You can also sign up for next year's competition. There will be no further newsletters this year, although brief notes may be sent out in December to remind everyone about the upcoming competition. It's been a pleasure to work with you all, and we hope to see you all in January! J Milburn (talk • email) and The ed17 (talk • email) 00:47, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

Hi

Hey can you send me some pics for my next paragraph thanks  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.125.95.184 (talk) 01:03, 2 November 2012 (UTC) 

Tigers

  Tonythetiger is kool for haveing tigers i like tigers to so if u like tigers to leave comments thanks01:05, 2 November 2012 (UTC)24.125.95.184 (talk)

hi

  TALK TO  ME PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!24.125.95.184 (talk) 01:23, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

Medals

Hey Tony. :) You're a sport editor I really respect. Is it non-neutral to say some one "earned" a medal? I've never heard of this ever and don't see it as in anyway violating WP:NPOV. It doesn't appear in any sport style guide that I've seen. Do you have any insight? --LauraHale (talk) 08:54, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

Medals

Hey Tony. :) You're a sport editor I really respect. Is it non-neutral to say some one "earned" a medal? I've never heard of this ever and don't see it as in anyway violating WP:NPOV. It doesn't appear in any sport style guide that I've seen. Do you have any insight? --LauraHale (talk) 08:54, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

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PR

Hi Tony, I closed the peer review per your request. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 20:34, 4 November 2012 (UTC)

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Wikipedia Takes America/Chicago results

Hi, Tony, I was wondering whatever happened to the scoring? Taric25 (talk) 00:39, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

Family

That's total BS, and you (should) know it. Naming the family members, based on Twitter feeds? Drmies (talk) 14:58, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

• I just read the GA review, Talk:Carly Foulkes/GA1. Drmies (talk) 15:00, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

Let's discuss each of the 5 sentences that you are suggesting removing separately. I will put up a fight on sentences 1 and 2. They both are very descriptive and encyclopedic. In general, I think using twitter as a source for familial relationships is tenuous. This is especially true in an environment where unrelated celebrities are constantly talking about each other as brother and sister. In this case, I think we have a WP:RS documenting familial relationships. Since we seek that encyclopedic content and we have a decent RS, sentence 1 should stay. This is a rare case where Twitter is actually a RS, IMO. Sentence 2 is clearly encyclopedic content regarding her upbringing. I'll listen to cogent arguments against 3 through 5, but I don't see any reason to remove them.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 17:46, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

• Sentence by sentence, then.

1. You said "Family is always considered encyclopedic content". That is simply not true. There is no possible point in naming a mother and the siblings; it most one could argue it's relevant that they have siblings. Why would their gender even matter? This is 2012. Besides, "her mother is Pauline" is not good writing. No, her mother is her mother, whose name happens to be Pauline; "is" has no function here since you're not pointing at a couple of people with name tags, one of which says "Pauline". No, that first sentence has to go. In BLPs, we are generally cautious with providing family information, and especially with naming them--they are not celebs, they didn't ask for it, we don't need to promote them.
   • I have never been involved in a WP discussion where adding any information on the names of immediate family members was not considered encyclopedic.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 14:56, 10 November 2012 (UTC)
2. The second sentence, I can give you, but it needs to be rewritten so it has some meaning. "while growing up"--when? which ages? It needs to be connected with the very first sentence of the paragraph: "she went to secondary school in Toronto but continued to spend her summers in England", that could be acceptable. It begs the question of what it could possibly matter. We're not fansites or a compendium of trivia. Maybe she went to Disneyworld, maybe twice, and that would be irrelevant either. This is the other problem with your Twitter sources: they are primary, and thus no indication is given that this matters to anyone else but the tweeter. Reliable secondary sources suggest notability of the information. But why am I telling you this? You have a billion edits here--you know this, or should know this. At any rate, a rewritten second sentence, combined with the very first one, that could be acceptable.
   • The original source says "I grew up in Toronto, but my parents are British, so I used to spend my summers in England". It does not give years or ages, but is encyclopedic without that additional information.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 15:14, 10 November 2012 (UTC)
3. through 5. --come on. Encyclopedia, not fansite or tabloid... Thanks, Drmies (talk) 18:13, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

Talk:Donald Cabral/GA1

Hi Tony, I have reviewed the GA nomination of this article, and placed it on hold pending resolution of issues noted at the GA page. Cheers! Resolute 18:02, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

I'll get to it within 7 days.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 22:22, 11 November 2012 (UTC)

QPQ bank

Using 4th QPQ of 9 against Template:Did you know nominations/Champaner-Pavagadh Archaeological Park.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 07:26, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

5th used.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 00:49, 15 November 2012 (UTC)

6th for Patrick Omameh.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 17:24, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

Review

Reviewed the images you wanted me too, sorry it took so long. Left response on my talk page. Put my comments on the individual pages you linked me too for the project. — raekyt 13:20, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:United States at the Olympics

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Chicago Emmys

For future reference, lists of winners are available here: [1] Zagalejo^^^ 09:04, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

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FOUR comment

Hi Tony, and thanks for all your work with WP:FOUR. Just a heads up, Frank's Cock was just promoted to FA but has not been on DYK yet. It is still scheduled for April Fools Day. Should I ping you after it runs on DYK, or...? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:59, 15 November 2012 (UTC)

Media credentials

Media credentials depend on how you represent yourself and how well you know people. When I've gotten them, it tends to require finding some one in the network, getting them to contact TPTB and facilitate communicating with getting them so they know who I am. I represent myself as a Wikimedian, and that my work would be published on Wikinews, with pictures being taken for inclusion on Commons and possibly on Wikipedia articles. I've never tried to get credentials in the USA (aside from what I am doing that does not require that) so not entirely certain of that process inside the country. (Would basically need more details for better advice.) --LauraHale (talk) 03:54, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

TPTB = The Powers That Be. Network is any sort of networking. Water polo came about because I know some one at the AIS who told the water polo people I am awesome. This meant when I contacted them, the contact could say "Yes, I know her work through the HOPAU project. She rocks. She's worth working with." If I don't have that contact, those media people just ignore me. If you have an inside connection of some sort, you need to try to work that. Otherwise, you check the media access and follow that. (I've rocked up at the Australian national archery championships and a major bike race. No media policies and no special press access required.) --LauraHale (talk) 06:00, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

Michigan List Update

Got your note. Will try to update Roundtree today. I have bone back to remove the list from the person's see also section where they are no longer on the list. No time to do a DYK review today. Possibly tomorrow. Cbl62 (talk) 22:45, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

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Bugger! I was scanning for a sports article for the list, and discounted it on the first pass for that very reason, but then went through again and missed that. Unfortunately as it is now in one of the queues rather than just a prep area, it will need to be taken down by an admin; I would suggest you ask at WT:DYK. Harrias ^talk 14:54, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

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DYK for Glenn Robinson III

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Justine Ezarik

I have tried to discuss it, but no one bothered to answer me. try, even to see the talk page for the article--89.249.2.53 (talk) 12:42, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

Patrick Omameh

I take a look, but I don't think I got a good one, or else I would have uploaded it already. Have you looked at the photo to the right from Commons? Cbl62 (talk) 06:02, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

collapsible option

I noticed a couple places where this was added to a {{sidebar}}, which does not support |state=. as an added check, I am now having the script check to see if there is a navbox on the page, before adding the parameter. unfortunately, I do not know all the possible names for all the navbox templates which support the state parameter, but I have added template that starts with either "navbox", "military navigation", or "campaign". so, that will also cover things like "navbox musical artist". if you find a template where the script refuses to add {{collapsible option}}, but you feel it should, let me know, and I will add that to the list. also, the script may still try to add it to templates that don't support |state=, but the number should be diminished. if you come across cases where it is adding it where it should not, then let me know about that as well. thank you. Frietjes (talk) 16:50, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

I could have it give you a pop-up warning if it failed due to the fact that it thought it is being added inappropriately, rather than the standard case where it is already there. I can always remove the pop-up if you find it too annoying later. Frietjes (talk) 16:57, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

done. it should now give you a pop-up and disallow this type of edit. Frietjes (talk) 17:09, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Christian Mitchell

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