User talk:Zanhe/2014

Your GA nomination of Shanghai Manhua

The article Shanghai Manhua you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needed to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass, otherwise it will fail. See Talk:Shanghai Manhua for things which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of ChrisGualtieri -- ChrisGualtieri (talk) 16:12, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

Run Run Shaw

In case you weren't paying attention, my edit reduced the excessive amount of whitespace in the article. User:InedibleHulk did a better job of it than I did, so I'm going to thank that editor in less than a minute. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 06:18, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

You're welcome. I didn't know you were having a problem (or even still what it was), but glad I could help. InedibleHulk (talk) 06:24, January 8, 2014 (UTC)

Removing the hatnote is fine with me. However, as long as there is a hatnote, it should go above the lead, not under. See WP:LEAD. -Zanhe (talk) 08:22, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

I note that you are trying to specifically link the move to Hong Kong and the Japanese invasion. If the source I gave is true (which you see somehow fit to remove), then the move cannot be caused by the Japanese invasion since it happened in early 1937 before the invasion. The Shaw official site actually does not specifically gave it as the reason for the move, which leave two opposing sources, and it is possible one is mistaken (since Zhang also say they moved before the invasion, he probably also made a mistake in interpretation). We have a number of sources that say the move happened before Japanese invasion - [1][2], and I have other books and they don't specifically indicate a causal link between the the destruction in Shanghai and the move to Hong Kong. We also know that there had been two fires in the Tianyi studio in 1936 [3][4] although it is unclear whether it is the Hong Kong or Shanghai studio, but destruction of the studio is not something unique, it would not be wise to specifically link two event which may not directly linked. If the sequence of events are reverse (i.e. the move to Hong Kong happened before the destruction of the studio) then the way the sentences are written would be highly misleading. When there is doubt, don't write it to suggest that it is a fact. Hzh (talk) 12:12, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

I did not simply remove the source you gave (Zhang 2004), but replaced it with a more recent one by the same author (Zhang 2012), as the Zhang 2004 assertion that Tianyi moved everything to HK and terminated its Shanghai operation in early 1937 is clearly contradicted by Zhang 2012, which says Tianyi suffered devastating damage in the Japanese invasion of Shanghai and then moved to Hong Kong. When such situations arise, we normally go with the more recent source, as the author may have gained new information or changed his position. Moreover, the statement on the Shaw website corroborates Zhang 2012: "When the Japanese invaded Shanghai in 1937, the Shaw Studio in China was destroyed and ceased operations temporarily." From the various sources, it's clear that Tianyi moved some of its operation to HK prior to the Japanese invasion (enough for it to survive while its two main competitors folded), but did not move completely until after the invasion. -Zanhe (talk) 19:07, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Tianyi Film Company

Orlady (talk) 08:21, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Shangguan Yunzhu

The article Shangguan Yunzhu you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Shangguan Yunzhu for things which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of ChrisGualtieri -- ChrisGualtieri (talk) 14:52, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Li (surname 李)

Thanks from me and the wiki Victuallers (talk) 00:02, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Li (surname 厉)

Thanks from me and the wiki Victuallers (talk) 00:02, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Li (surname 栗)

Thanks from me and the wiki Victuallers (talk) 00:02, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Ye Qianyu

The article Ye Qianyu you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Ye Qianyu for comments about the article. Well done! Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of LT910001 -- LT910001 (talk) 05:12, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Li E

The DYK project (nominate) 16:03, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

History of the Great Wall of China

Hi Zanhe, I reverted your edit on History of the Great Wall of China because it replaced the stuff written in the style guide. Let me know if this is a problem and we'll work it out. Best, ► Philg88 ◄ ^talk 08:38, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

• I've reverted that revert, as WP:OTHERDATE says pretty much the exact opposite of what Phil thought it said. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:12, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

Indeed. I haven't reverted the revert to that revert because it was correct in the first place:) Apologies for my original mistake. Best, ► Philg88 ◄ ^talk 09:40, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

• No worries, we all make mistakes. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:00, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

• Thank you both for being so reasonable. Wikipedia needs more editors like you two. -Zanhe (talk) 14:16, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Chen Guangbiao

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:58, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Li Yining

The DYK project (nominate) 00:02, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Shanghai Manhua

The article Shanghai Manhua you nominated as a good article has failed ; see Talk:Shanghai Manhua for reasons why the nomination failed. If or when these points have been taken care of, you may apply for a new nomination of the article. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of ChrisGualtieri -- ChrisGualtieri (talk) 16:52, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

Li (surname) RfC Closure

I noticed you were the one who closed the Li (surname) RfC. It's super long, would you mind summarizing the outcome, either at the top or using the 'result' field of the archive top template? It'll be much easier for future editors to get a sense of the outcome. 0x0077BE (talk) 00:51, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

I simply added the archive templates to the RfC which had expired weeks before. As I was an active participant in the discussion, I don't think it's appropriate for me to summarize the outcome, although the consensus is quite clear for anyone who cares to read the discussion. -Zanhe (talk) 06:23, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Lu (surname 陆)

Thanks and have a good weekend Victuallers (talk) 16:02, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Lu (surname 卢)

Thanks and have a good weekend Victuallers (talk) 16:02, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Lu (surname 路)

Thanks and have a good weekend Victuallers (talk) 16:03, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

This was an amazing hook. Thanks for making the articles! -- Michael Scott Cuthbert (talk) 20:25, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

Glad you liked them. I actually wrote articles for seven Lu surnames at Lu (surname), but only three are long enough for DYK. -Zanhe (talk) 21:33, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Lü (surname)

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:03, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

RE: Hu Qiaomu

Hu was a leading reformer, and wrote in his thesis "Observe economic laws, speed up the Four Modernizations" (published in 1978) that the planned economy was not observing the economic laws of society, and supported private initiative in the economy.. Hu Qiaomu was on par with Chen Yun, a reformer, but a reformer more obsessed with saving "key socialist features", such as preserving some elements of the planned economy. However, he was a reformer, and did not oppose Reform and Opening Up, being one of its leading advocates at the beginning... You can easily find this in Google Books, also, its referenced in the Ideology section of the Communist Party of China article (which I've written)... Calling him a conservative reformer yes, calling him a hardliner, no. A hardliner in the sense that he opposed liberal freedoms yes, but then everyone with the exception of Zhao and Hua were hardliners.. --TIAYN (talk) 12:00, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Labels such as reformer and hardliner are relative. Hu Qiaomu could probably be considered a reformer judging by the extremist ideology of the Cultural Revolution, but by the late 1980s, he was definitely a hardliner in the reformist environment of the Deng Xiaoping era. And that's how the NYT obituary described him. I agree we should add more nuanced analysis to the article, but simply removing the sourced content is not the solution, IMO. -Zanhe (talk) 04:01, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

DYK nom for Poet Laureate of New Jersey

I fixed the hook to swap out "controversial" for "provocative" at Template:Did you know nominations/Poet Laureate of New Jersey. Do you see anything else needed to be addressed? --ColonelHenry (talk) 15:27, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Shangguan Yunzhu

The article Shangguan Yunzhu you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Shangguan Yunzhu for comments about the article. Well done! Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of ChrisGualtieri -- ChrisGualtieri (talk) 15:52, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Yang Fang move Comment

Yo, the reason I used uppercase for "General" is that it's a proper noun. (No cap intended) "general" is an adjective and is potentially confusing for those who don't know Chinese stuff i.e those who have no idea whether it's a name, a place or a small flowering shrub with extremely sharp leaves :). Based on that, I think it should move back. Best ► Philg88 ◄ ^talk 14:32, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

The general practice (pardon the pun, couldn't resist it) on Wikipedia is using lowercase "general" for disambiguation, e.g. Robert Allen (general), Richard Arnold (general), Joseph Bailey (general). What's inside the parentheses is considered descriptive, and not part of the proper noun. -Zanhe (talk) 21:24, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

Fair enough. In general, I like to follow policy :) BTW, your eyes on Lu Kun would be good. Cheers, ► Philg88 ◄ ^talk 04:57, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Ma Chengyuan

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Ma Chengyuan you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Rosiestep -- Rosiestep (talk) 04:01, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Ma Chengyuan

The article Ma Chengyuan you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Ma Chengyuan for things which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Rosiestep -- Rosiestep (talk) 04:51, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

Hi there. This was an article on an interesting person, so I was glad to review it. Please ping me when you're ready for me to look at it again. Thanks. --Rosiestep (talk) 20:17, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Yang Gang (journalist)

Thanks from the Wiki and I Victuallers (talk) 00:02, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Writer's Barnstar
	Good job updating and promoting Yang Gang (journalist) to DYK! Your work in this underrepresented area of Wikipedia is greatly appreciated. Happy editing and keep it up. ComputerJA (☎ • ✎) 01:41, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks! -Zanhe (talk) 03:53, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

DYK for James Cahill (art historian)

Thanks for another contribution Victuallers (talk) 08:02, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

Revision/expansion of Chin Tsi-ang article

I just completed a substantial expansion of the article about this Chinese silent era actress. Could you or someone else more experienced than I please take a look at it and let me know if I'm on the right track? Also, as I noted there, the image was not of her but another actress from the same era. I deleted that, but there is still a redirect form the other's name to that of Chin's. Thanks.

Invincible Asia (talk) 19:16, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for your contribution, it was a great improvement from the old version. I copyedited the article a bit, but it's mostly fine. One major point to watch out, though, is that user-generated content such as Baidu Baike is not considered reliable source, so please do not use it as source in the future. Thanks also for noticing the bad redirect Xu qinfang, I've placed a Db-redirmisnomer tag on the page. (update: an admin has now deleted the redirect) Keep up the good work! Unfortunately, major contributors Tryptofeng and Benjwong seem to have both left Wikipedia, and there has been a sore lack of contributors for classic Chinese cinema. -Zanhe (talk) 01:04, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback, and for the words of encouragement. I'll avoid Baidu Baike in the future, (I noticed they never seemed to have any sources cited), but I have many other sources to use. I'm still learning the system, so is it OK if I call on you for advice now and then? I promise I won't be a pest.

Invincible Asia (talk) 22:26, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

No problem at all. Feel free to ask questions any time. Judging by the quality of your work so far, I suspect you're unlikely to become a pest :-) -Zanhe (talk) 00:54, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Ma Chengyuan

The article Ma Chengyuan you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Ma Chengyuan for comments about the article. Well done! Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Rosiestep -- Rosiestep (talk) 14:41, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Congratulations! --Rosiestep (talk) 15:48, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for your detailed review! -Zanhe (talk) 21:12, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Lou (surname 娄)

The DYK project (nominate) 08:02, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Lou (surname 楼)

The DYK project (nominate) 08:02, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

Zhuangzi (book)

Saw this pop up on my watchlist. Just a heads up: you may want to keep an eye out for disambiguation pages as well. I got two earlier. There are scripts to make this easier. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:14, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, forgot to check those. Thanks for the reminder. -Zanhe (talk) 10:18, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

Checked with dabsolver, looks like you got them all! -Zanhe (talk) 10:22, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

• I use User:Anomie/linkclassifier.css, which is rather useful once you get used to it. (Documentation here). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:34, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Chen Yumei

The DYK project (nominate) 00:01, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

Demonym for Shanghai People

Hi Zanhe, thanks for responding to my revision. I was looking for some experienced wiki editors who are still active on this topic. Yet obviously there is opinion difference between us, I appreciate your related changes recently on pages like Shanghai, Shanghainese_people, Demonym, etc. In my opinion, "Shanghainese" is a word passed on due to the effect of "Chinglish", which might be invented in the early '80s by some arrogant local English learners in high-school level or lower (Another example, "Black New New", assume you know what it is. But this one is cute, btw). However, it is neither formalized nor "standard" (as you referred to in the revision history). Times have changed, and Wikipedia is a site that people around the world refer to when they don't know about some subject. I think it is very import to make names, concepts and ideas appearing on wiki pages clear and unbiased, as you know this wiki-editing business much better than I do. Even though someone would argue that "Shanghainese got more hits on Goolge", "Shanghaian" is NOT out of play. "Shanghainese" may have been accepted by some expats in Shanghai, but "Shanghaian" definitely makes better sense to foreigners who have never been to China (please ignore the word "Shanghaier"). so it will be much appreciated if you could consider making it a widely known issue among your wiki friends and bringing senior editors and domain experts to fix this problem. Thanks. --MakeItFair Hopefully (talk) 20:04, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

FYI, I have added a new talk section at page Shanghai. --MakeItFair Hopefully (talk) 20:12, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

I've replied to your post there. -Zanhe (talk) 22:32, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

Translation of your article Lou (surname 楼)

Hello Zanhe, I have translated an article, Lou (surname 楼) which you significantly contributed to into Chinese and nominated it for DYK.

I also created the redirects Lou (surname 樓) and Lou (surname 婁). Thanks for the work. HYH.124 (talk) 13:26, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for translating it into Chinese. I was planning to do it myself, but there are always more things to do than I have time for. Your help is greatly appreciated. Any interest in translating other articles, such as Tianyi Film Company, Chen Yumei and Lou (surname 娄)? -Zanhe (talk) 18:55, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

That depends, as I am planning a semi-retirement from Wikipedia, probably before or after the closure of an on-going GA review of an article I created. Had to cure my Wikipediholism. HYH.124 (talk) 06:48, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

Understood. I'm suffering a bit from Wikipediholism myself, and will take a break for a few weeks. In general I find GA nominations not worth the trouble, when there are thousands of notable topics that don't even have a basic article. I've only nominated a few that I've accidentally spent too much time writing. -Zanhe (talk) 19:40, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

It seems like none of your articles are promoted to GA status. Anyway, I suggest that for all surname articles which you contributed to with Chinese characters as part of article title, traditional/simplified-Chinese-character redirects can be created. HYH.124 (talk) 05:59, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

I've nominated five articles for GA, and four have been promoted. I had plans to nominate more, but found it a time-consuming and less rewarding task than writing new articles. Thanks for your suggestion for creating the redirects, will try to remember to do that. -Zanhe (talk) 23:11, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Mutilations

I am afraid your Feb. 2 deletions and mutilations on the Neville Maxwell page, including eliminating credible and weighty citations, was unprofessional. Wikipedia promotes objectivity. But for some reason, you wish to block that objective in relation to Maxwell. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mona.SHEPHERD (talk • contribs) 07:58, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Mutilations? You've got to be kidding me. What Harshray added to Neville Maxwell was a blatant violation of the WP:BLP policy. Thanks for alerting me to the fact that he's now added it again. But I'm on a wikibreak now and will have to deal with it later. -Zanhe (talk) 13:20, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Incorrect redirect

In the article Zhuangzi Tests His Wife the name Beihai Li redirects to Lai Man-Wai. It should redirect to the article for Lai Pak-Hoi, which is Beihai Li's (or Li Beihai's) Cantonese name. They are two separate people. Sorry to bother you with this, but since I understand it it has to be corrected by an administrator, I don't know how else to get it corrected. Invincible Asia (talk) 15:33, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) @Invincible Asia: Fixed, while Zanhe enjoys a Wikibreak :) No administrator permission is needed for changes to Wikipedia unless there is a padlock icon in the top right hand corner. ► Philg88 ◄ ^talk 04:22, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

@Invincible Asia: Administrator intervention was required last time because we were requesting to delete an incorrect redirect. Changing the target of a redirect does not need administrator permission. @Philg88: Thanks a lot for helping out when I was on a wikibreak. -Zanhe (talk) 03:30, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

不客气 ► Philg88 ◄ ^♦talk 04:54, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Utopia University

Thanks for making April 1st special Victuallers (talk) 08:02, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

Quick question

Do you know how to see how many views a DYK that ran only a few days ago received? It used to be very easy... but I can't seem to locate it anymore? 842U (talk) 20:46, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

It's on stats.grok.se. Just enter the article name on this link: http://stats.grok.se/en/201404/ -Zanhe (talk) 12:33, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

A number for you ...

Always happy to help out a fellow Wikipedian, especially you :), and my apologies in advance if you already know about Chinese numerology. Per your request, you don't really want a number with a "4" in it (Rincewind42 excepted because 42 is special); it's a number associated with death in China and best avoided. The most auspicious is "8" (sounds like father, sons = cash) followed by "6" (sounds like flow, flow = prosperity). So "86" is perfect for you (and it's no coincidence that it's the dialing code for the PRC, although they're probably still pissed that Taiwan trumps them with "886"). Funny how it all comes down to money. Cheers, ► Philg88 ◄ ^♦talk 06:15, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

Lol. Thanks for your numerology tips! Changing username is too much hassle, but I'll keep your tips in mind when creating accounts on other websites. Cheers! -Zanhe (talk) 18:11, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

100 DYK Creation and Expansion Medal

		The 100 DYK Creation and Expansion Medal
		Congratulations on reaching this milestone! Your contributions on Chinese culture, surnames, and other topics are making Wikipedia better, and more interesting! Best, Yoninah (talk) 18:16, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks! Much appreciated. -Zanhe (talk) 18:50, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

People's Park

See Talk:People's_Park_(disambiguation)#Primary_topic.3F. PamD 08:00, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

That's fine. I wasn't aware of any previous discussion. I've now initiated a move request. -Zanhe (talk) 09:03, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

Talk:Chinese Character Simplification Scheme

Can you help to rate the quality and importance of the article to the two WikiProjects? HYH.124 (talk) 12:03, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

Didn't realize it was your article. It could use more inline references, but nice article nevertheless! -Zanhe (talk) 19:08, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Li Xueqin

The DYK project (nominate) 10:33, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

给您一个星章！

	编辑星章
	Thanks for your continuously work on Chinese related articles! Lzy881114 (talk) 10:08, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

Thank you! -Zanhe (talk) 19:36, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

DYK

Hello Zanhe, I have see you have been active on DYK related matter for sometime so I was wondering if you can review this nomination. Please let me know if you can help. Thank you. Jim Carter ^(talk) 12:52, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

It's not a subject I'm familiar with. But I'll take a look. -Zanhe (talk) 03:42, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

Please take a look. Since we have only three people Sitush, MelanieN and Titodutta who were very much familiar with the subject but unexpectedly all of them were involved in creating this article. So I thought if you can help. Thank you. Jim Carter ^(talk) 06:47, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

Thank you. I have  Fixed the issues. Jim Carter ^(talk) 11:08, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Qiu Xigui

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:03, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks and a question

Many thanks for reviewing my latest DYKs - possibly the two most disparate subjects one could come up with! I saw a comment you made on one of them about checking for copyvio. Did you use a wmf labs tool or something else? Best,  Philg88 ^♦talk 08:23, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

No problem. I enjoyed reading and reviewing your disparate yet interesting articles. Too bad the North Korean photo did not make the main page. I use Dupe Detector for copyvio checks, but usually only run spot checks on the main sources. Checking every source would be too time consuming. -Zanhe (talk) 19:39, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, Zanhe. I'll bookmark that tool.  Philg88 ^♦talk 06:25, 26 April 2014 (UTC)

Here's another tool I found very useful: http://reftag.appspot.com -Zanhe (talk) 06:47, 26 April 2014 (UTC)

That's a cool tool, thanks. At Google books I used to click on the "About this book" link in the left hand toolbar then export the citation as a refman etc, format and insert. This will make the process much easier.  Philg88 ^♦talk 07:01, 26 April 2014 (UTC)

DYK for People's Park (Ürümqi)

The DYK project (nominate) 23:52, 26 April 2014 (UTC)

Vandalism

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, as you did at Shanghai, you may be blocked from editing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.100.16.10 (talk)

LOL. If you want to engage in a serious debate over the merit of your edits, why not get an account instead of editing from dozens of ever-changing IPs? Your behaviour gives people the impression that you have something to hide. -Zanhe (talk) 20:20, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

Shanghai population

Sorry about that. It seems it was the list of cities proper that was wrong, which you fixed. Thanks for clearing it up. I should of read the source first. Jacob102699 (talk) 20:22, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

@Jacob102699: no worries, we all make mistakes. Cheers, Zanhe (talk) 20:28, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

DYK for People's Park (Guangzhou)

The DYK project (nominate) 00:01, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

Dzungar/Zunghar

Hi Zanhe, I wanted to run this by you before moving ahead. A user with a very low edit count moved a number of related pages from Dzungar -> Zunghar (for example Zunghar people and Zunghar Khanate). According to this ngram, "Dzungar" is the WP:COMMONNAME and it's certainly the one used for Dzungaria, from which it derives. Having these two names in related topics is confusing for readers and I want to switch it back again. The question arises as to whether it can be done as a WP:BOLD move or requires a move discussion. Thoughts?  Philg88 ^♦talk 06:17, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

@Philg88: Reverting an undiscussed move is common and does not require a move discussion. The first user made a bold move, and if you disagree with it (for good reason, AFAIK), it's natural to move it back, which would be the second step of the WP:BRD cycle. -Zanhe (talk) 06:28, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, I'm on the case. Cheers,  Philg88 ^♦talk 06:43, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

Proposed changes to the zh template

Hi my friend, I'd appreciate your input at this discussion. Some interesting potential changes in the wind.  Philg88 ^♦talk 11:35, 29 April 2014 (UTC)

I took a look at the discussion, but it was getting a bit too technical for me to fully understand. Sorry I didn't feel competent enough to provide any useful input. -Zanhe (talk) 21:38, 4 May 2014 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Yang Bojun

Hello! Your submission of Yang Bojun at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Soman (talk) 22:05, 29 April 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Yang Bojun

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 14:39, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

Another DYK for review

Hi Zanhe, how are you? I have another article on DYK. So I thought you might like to review it. The nomination page is here. Many thanks. Jim Carter ^(talk) 03:51, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

Sorry, I've been a bit busy lately and didn't have time to take a look at it until now. I see that it's already been reviewed by an experienced editor. -Zanhe (talk) 21:43, 4 May 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for your keen re-review :) Jim Carter ^(talk) 14:15, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Chu Teh-Chun

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 23:59, 2 May 2014 (UTC)

About the necessity for the linkages in Comfort women

I have written my opinion about the necessity for the linkages at Talk:Comfort women#About the necessity for the linkages. So please read them and let me know your opinion.NiceDay (talk) 07:10, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Mother Lü

Materialscientist (talk) 10:09, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

DYK for People's Park (Chengdu)

Thanks for helping Victuallers (talk) 22:24, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

An Award for You!

	The Chinese Barnstar of National Excellence
	For your prolific good work on China-related articles. Keep it up!! ♦ Dr. Blofeld 07:30, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

Thank you very much Dr. Blofeld. It means a lot to me to be awarded a barnstar by one of the most prolific contributors on Wikipedia. -Zanhe (talk) 22:26, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

DYK for People's Park (Xining)

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 10:38, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	Expert in DYK barnstar
	Honestly you are an expert in DYK related topic! Jim Carter (talk) 14:30, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

Hey Zanhe, someone asked for a full review here please help me. Thanks. Jim Carter ^(talk) 06:06, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

I reviewed the DYK again. Thanks for the barnstar! -Zanhe (talk) 20:46, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

DYK for People's Park (Nanning)

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:34, 17 May 2014 (UTC)

DYK for John Calvin Ferguson

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 01:59, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

Good work on this DYK! I never realized how much was involved, so I'm all the more admiring. ch (talk) 05:38, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

CWH, thanks for writing the article to begin with. DYK requires more attention to detail, but you get a hang of it after a few tries. Keep up the good work, and maybe you'll become a DYK regular in the future. Cheers! -Zanhe (talk) 07:06, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

Tan Boen Soan

Could you add the Mandarin name for Tan Boen Soan? It's available here. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:37, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

 Done. -Zanhe (talk) 20:52, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

• Thank you very much. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:45, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

GA Review

Zanhe, my gratitude for your review of the Zhuangzi article.  White Whirlwind  咨  20:00, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

White whirlwind, it was actually my first GA review, so I wasn't too sure how strictly to interpret the GA rules, especially on breadth. I'm glad that someone else has stepped in and ended my indecision. Despite my reservations, it is an excellent article, and you've done a great job bringing such an important article to GA standard. Thank you very much! As you've seen, I've nominated it for DYK. -Zanhe (talk) 22:15, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

Lang Jingshan thanks again

Hi again! Thanks for the thoughtful work at Lang Jingshan, and for the DYK nomination. I had thought of nominating the same salacious fact, but you put it better.

One question for my future reference, though. I am not clear on what images we are allowed to use. The photos you put on the page are great. Did you do something other than just upload and post them, or is there some more complicated procedure needed to get permission? Cheers ch (talk) 18:05, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

CWH, I've been planning to write about Lang Jingshan for a long time, but have been sidetracked by a variety of things. Thanks for writing the article, as well as many others!

The images we use must be public domain (PD) or have a free license. In both PRC and ROC (but not Hong Kong), images become PD 50 years after publication, so all the images I uploaded were published before 1964. However, PD images in China/Taiwan are not automatically PD in the US due to the URAA law. It's a complex issue, but in short, images published in the PRC before 1946 (URAA date 1996 minus 50, mostly meaningless as it was before its founding) or in the ROC before 1952 (URAA date 2002 minus 50) are also PD in the US. When uploading images to the commons using UploadWizard, the second screen asks about license. Choose "Another reason not mentioned above", then paste the copyright template {{PD-China}} for images that are PD in China/Taiwan; for those that are also PD in the US, add the second template {{PD-1996}}. -Zanhe (talk) 20:03, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

Thanks -- your explanation helps at lot. Do you know if it's ok to scan an image of something created before 1964 but in a book printed more recently? For instance, say, a Qing or Ming dynasty woodblock? ch (talk) 01:12, 29 May 2014 (UTC)

CWH, yes definitely, it's the first publishing date that counts. However, if it's a photo of a three-dimensional object such as a sculpture, then the photo is considered an original work with its own copyright. -Zanhe (talk) 02:39, 29 May 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Zhuangzi (book)

Materialscientist (talk) 05:33, 30 May 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Xu Lai (actress)

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 22:05, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

• Impressive work once again with this article. Happy editing! ComputerJA (☎ • ✎) 04:56, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Thanks! -Zanhe (talk) 06:01, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

DYK review

Hello Zanhe, how are you? I trust all is well. I have recently created an article about a film which was nominated for DYK. So, I thought if you can help review. The nom page is here. Infinite thanks. Jim Carter ^(talk) 15:32, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

Hi Jim Cartar, I've been trying to access gomolo.com, the main source for the article, but it keeps timing out. Is it just me or something wrong with the website? -Zanhe (talk) 05:15, 6 June 2014 (UTC)

No the website was opening when I, Philg88, MelanieN and Mogism were trying. Which browser are you using? Try another browser please. Jim Carter ^(talk) 06:51, 6 June 2014 (UTC)

Can you access gomolo now?? Jim Carter ^(talk) 09:52, 6 June 2014 (UTC)

It works now, don't know why. I'm a bit busy this weekend, will take a look in a couple days or so. -Zanhe (talk) 07:18, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

No rush. And thank you friend. Jim Carter ^(talk) 14:15, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

I have addressed the issues. Please re-review. Thanks. Jim Carter ^(talk) 08:01, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

Thank you very much friend for the re-review. Jim Carter ^(talk) 09:23, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

You're very welcome, and thanks for your diligent effort finding sources. -Zanhe (talk) 02:18, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

Dharmadhyaksha has proposed another hook. Please take a look. Infinite thanks. Jim Carter ^(talk) 13:17, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

Jim Cartar, there's a problem with the new hook. See my comment at the nom page. -Zanhe (talk) 03:25, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

DYK assistance

Hey my friend, long time no speak! Hope all is well. If you have a moment, please can you take a look at Template:Did you know nominations/Albert Heard and give your thoughts? I've never come across this as part of a DYK before so I'd appreciate your judgement. Cheers,  Philg88 ^♦talk 08:23, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

See my reply at the nom page. -Zanhe (talk) 07:20, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

Many thanks for that. I have no doubt that he is notable, but you know as well as I do how difficult it can be find sources proving it. Hopefully someone will now process the DYK submission. Thanks again and if I can reciprocate then don't hesitate to ask. Best,  Philg88 ^♦talk 07:25, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

No need to reciprocate. Just keep writing interesting new articles for my reading pleasure :) -Zanhe (talk) 04:16, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

It will be my pleasure :)  Philg88 ^♦talk 04:19, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

WT:DYK hook discussion

FYI: A discussion about the hook for Lang Jingshan is going on at WT:DYK. Yoninah (talk) 15:55, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

Names

According to Google, the authors of this article are Yan Ping and Bai Ying. Can you confirm if this is correct, or if Google is screwing with me? (Used in List of accolades received by Departures) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:47, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, Google translate is actually correct. I'm impressed. -Zanhe (talk) 02:20, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

• As am I. Thanks. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:21, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

Sad, but true ...

I'm amazed that the stuff you removed was added in July 2012 without a supporting reference, and it sat there for 2 years before someone actually added one! (At which point it became obvious that it should never have been put there in the first place ... ) 2 years!! Pdfpdf (talk) 14:09, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

Pdfpdf, I know, too many POV pushers and too few people sticking with neutral sources. Thanks for your effort improving the related articles! -Zanhe (talk) 02:52, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Lang Jingshan

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 16:02, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

Vandalism at World's largest municipalities by population

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, as you did at World's largest municipalities by population, you may be blocked from editing. This article was blanked by you on 12 June 2014 — Preceding unsigned comment added by BsBsBs (talk • contribs)

Please stop abusing the vandalism templates, which you also did on the talk page of Someone the Person. Implementing an AfD decision is not disruptive editing, but your obstruction of the implementation is. -Zanhe (talk) 05:05, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

Yes, basically, you are correct. However, life is rarely that simple ...

Yes, I had a similar reaction to yours regarding hatnotes are for articles with similar names, but I draw to your attention that "similar" might have a MUCH wider definition than you have considered. For example, in the sense that they are all "archipelagos in the South China Sea", there are about 5 names that satisfy this, of which the Paracels and the Spratlys are but two.
In principal, I agree with your edit. In practice, I fear that it's not that easily defined, and hence, before I express a further opinion, I'd like to read what you have to say on the matter (of non-similar names referring to possibly "similar" (whatever that might mean) circumstance. Thanks in advance, Pdfpdf (talk) 17:50, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

I see your point, and agree that some people may confuse the Spratlys with the Paracels as they are both archipelagos in the South China Sea. Similarly, people may also confuse Sicily with Sardinia, Fiji with Tonga, and the dozens of countries in the Caribbean, but I don't think hatnotes are meant to prevent this type of potential confusion. -Zanhe (talk) 05:00, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

Serial vandalism at World's largest municipalities by population

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, as you did at World's largest municipalities by population, you may be blocked from editing. This article was blanked by you again on 13 June 2014 after a warning was issued on 12 June 2014 BsBsBs (talk) 08:55, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

You chose to ignore my warning against abusing the vandalism notices. I hope you've now learned your lesson after this and this. -Zanhe (talk) 23:25, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

Well, I know you're above gravedancing. :) The good news is that he's agreed to a topic ban if he's unblocked. Now, I trust that the article will find an appropriate fate. Let's work together to help wrap up this bone in our throats. It's time to get this one fixed. Thank you again for your patience in all of this. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:28, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

You can't imagine how much abuse I received from him over the years. Besides the latest vandalism accusations, he's accused me of racism and of conspiring to fudge numbers. I know I'm just one of several editors who stopped actively maintaining the city lists out of frustration. He seemed to be exhausted himself from being opposed by virtually everybody else, but just couldn't stop. I'm not against unblocking him if he agrees to a topic ban, which is probably the best for everyone involved. -Zanhe (talk) 00:10, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Zhang Shichuan

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 08:04, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

Re-review

Please re-review this one. Thanks, Jim Carter ^(talk) 14:53, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

Done. -Zanhe (talk) 00:40, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

Seeking advice

Greetings from Chinese Wikipedia. I have translated the article The Jakarta Post into Chinese, but there is a user (now banned as he used several sock puppets to disturb the functioning of zhwp; mentioned as that man below) arguing about the translation, thus opposed the attempt of GA candidacy. I've discussed the issue with Crisco 1492, the article's main editor, and we have made effort for the issues' resolving. Here's summary of our talk:

1. In the original article, it is said that when the Post was founded, staffs need to use a pica pole as the straightedge. That man argues that in this situation, a straightedge means a tool with an edge free from curves with no equally spaced markings along its length, making the sentence irrational. I don't agree with his saying, thus not changing the sentence. In our discussion, Crisco point out that straightedge = ruler (give or take). Since then, the sentence haven't changed.
2. In the article mentioned above, it's said that "English favouring the active voice and direct statements, while respectful Indonesian favours the passive voice and a circuitous approach." That man argues that in this situation, "respectful Indonesian" means elegant/prestigious way of Indonesian writing. But I have noticed an article about a televised debate between Mr. Joko Widodo and Mr. Prabowo Subianto (both candidates in the upcoming Indonesian presidential election) by Lianhe Zaobao, a Singapore-based Chinese paper. In the article, it stated that a typical style for a Javanese to speak is humble, just like what Jokowi did. So, I think that it is quite contradictory between that man's comment and the article's content. I prefer to adopt the article's speech, i.e. "respectful Indonesian" = "humble way of Indonesian writing". Crisco suggested that "respectful Indonesian" can be translated into some Chinese means "Indonesians showing respect" or sth similar.
3. In the same article, it quoted the speech of Mr. Jusuf Wanandi: "You cannot bullshit in English, like the Javanese way." That man argued again, this time point out the word "bullshit" means chatting, not lying nor having a bad intend. Crisco said that the phrase "bullshit" doesn't means as "lying" nor "chatting". He suggests that the phrase is using a certain phrasing to imply that you'll do something, but not doing it (a favourite tactic of Indonesians who want to stall... "akan dikerjakan" ("it will be worked on"). I look at the original version of the Chinese translation again. The original translation of the phrase "bullshit" means "boasting", "lying" or "chatting", and the revised translation only means "chatting". For the meaning of not doing what he promised to do, there are several idioms on it, roughly translated as "what one say and do is not the same" and "saying, then not fulfill the promise". However, as I know, they are used as adjectives. If the original translation (boasting/chatting/lying) is used, it may makes contradiction, as I have translated the word "respectful" as a Chinese word means "humble".

I appreciate your contributions on China-related articles, as I once noticed that your article was on DYK column and the article is well-written. Crisco also acknowledged your well understanding of Chinese nuance, thus ask me to seek advice from you. I would be grateful if you can give me some useful advice on these issues, comment on whether our explanation is correct, and help for the translation. Much thanks, Spring Roll Conan ( Talk · Contributions ) 11:37, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

Hi Spring Roll Conan, this is a completely unfamiliar subject to me. I'll need some time to read both the English and Chinese articles, as well as the sources, and get back to you later. Hope that's ok. -Zanhe (talk) 00:43, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

春卷柯南, sorry about the delay. I took a look at the article and your translation (well done, by the way), but unfortunately I cannot access the main source (Tarrant 2008). I agree with the your translation of straightedge as 直尺. Wikidata apparently thinks so too. As for "respectful Indonesian", I suggest translating it as 禮貌的印尼語. From my understanding, the humble voice is simply the normal polite speech of Malay/Indonesian. "You cannot bullshit in English, like the Javanese way" is the hardest to translate. Without access to the original context, it's hard to determine what he means exactly by "bullshit" here. However, I don't think this sentence is essential to the article, and not much is lost if you just omit it altogether. If you really want to include it, just follow Crisco's interpretation. -Zanhe (talk) 20:17, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) I recall seeing "straightedge" as a translation of 直尺 somewhere. MDBG has it as "straight ruler", but that smacks of Chinglish. As for the nuance, I can't comment – Hainan yes, but Indonesia is a bit beyond my geographic sphere. Just my 2 RMB worth.  Philg88 ^♦talk 21:04, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Kong Yingda

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:53, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

Calendar conversion

How to convert from Chinese calendar to Western calendar during BCE, e.g. Liu Bang died on 1 June 195 BC (四月甲辰 in Book of Han).--123.27.169.178 (talk) 03:38, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

Academia Sinica has a tool at http://sinocal.sinica.edu.tw/ that converts dates from Chinese to Western calendar. It works from late Western Han and afterward. Zhou dynasty calendars are far more complicated and not supported by the tool. For dates not supported, you'll just have to find a modern academic source that has already done the conversion. -Zanhe (talk) 07:09, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

AN/I

Mind taking a look and lifting the barrage? Thanks much "My master, Annatar the Great, bids thee ^welcome!" 23:10, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

As much as I value your contributions and hate to see you blocked again, I'm afraid the evidence on ANI is quite damning. When you are unblocked in the future, remember to stay away from making personal attacks or playing tricks with page archiving. People are not stupid, you know, especially administrators patrolling ANI. -Zanhe (talk) 06:00, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

Ching Tsai Loo

Hi again -- I've started an article on the art dealer and de facto cultural ambassador, Ching Tsai Loo. Any suggestions or improvements very welcome! Especially for ideas on how to tie him into other articles which develop the "East/West" mutual cultural interchange theme. Hope all goes well. ch (talk) 15:04, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

@CWH: thanks for another awesome article, I never knew about the interesting life story behind this famous art dealer! I'm preparing for my summer travels now and there's still some unfinished business to take care of. So I may not have too much time to work on the article, but I'll see what I can do to help. Good thing is that it's already in a very good shape! -Zanhe (talk) 20:45, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

Thanks! No rush and no big deal, it's just that working on something intensively I lose track of what things look like, and you have a good eye and a good feel for how things fit together. ch (talk) 22:33, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

@CWH: I see that you uploaded this image. You might want to know that it's best to upload public domain images to the Commons (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:UploadWizard), so that they can be used by all Wikipedia projects. Normally only "fair use" (non-PD) images are uploaded to en.wiki, which are for local use only and not visible to other wikis. -Zanhe (talk) 01:31, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Li Shaohong

Gatoclass (talk) 16:18, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

Map question

Hi my friend. Apropos the conversation that we had a while ago re location maps I'm thinking of making a shiny new OSM derived map of Shanghai. However, although Chongming County is officially part of the city proper, it will mess up the scale if I include it. Do you think it would work to have "Shanghai downtown" as a separate location map? Cheers,  Philg88 ^♦talk 06:02, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

@Philg88: A shiny new map of Shanghai would be a godsend, and a downtown map would be especially helpful! Most interesting places in Shanghai seem to be concentrated within the Inner Ring Road. Do you think that would be a good definition of downtown? -Zanhe (talk) 07:35, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

Ring road seems sensible, maybe just a tad outside. The main issue was the dumping of Chongming County. I'll start this next week when I finish the current (mammoth) WWII map project. Thanks for the input, Best  Philg88 ^♦talk 07:59, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

		The Redirect Barnstar
		I thought I was doing well with my 300 redirects, but then I noticed you'd created almost 2,000 of them! Redirects are crucial to ensure that readers find what they want. I award you this rarely used ***Redirect Barnstar*** to thank you for your sustained efforts in developing this neglected aspect of our encyclopedia. Keep up the good work! Madalibi (talk) 06:41, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

@Madalibi: I don't know if I really deserve this, as I have no idea how to verify that I've actually created that many redirects :-) Thanks so much for your kindness! -Zanhe (talk) 08:01, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

Xtools will tell you everything you need to know. Some redirects are the result of page moves (about 100 of mine are), but with 1981 redirects, you definitely created a lot of them manually, and that's why you deserve this barnstar! Madalibi (talk) 08:51, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

Looks like a useful tool. Thanks! -Zanhe (talk) 20:07, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Ji (surname 季)

Gatoclass (talk) 00:04, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Ji (surname 吉)

Gatoclass (talk) 00:04, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Ji (surname 冀)

Gatoclass (talk) 00:04, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

		Zhonghua Barnstar of Merit
		I would bestow upon you a vote of thanks for all your work, promoting greater understanding of Chinese culture.
		this WikiAward was given to Zanhe by  Ohc ¡digame! on 02:31, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

Thank you Ohconfucius for the barnstar and for reviewing my DYK nominations! -Zanhe (talk) 07:16, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

Gong Li vs. Li Gong

Can you help me convince these people at Talk:Gong_Li#Gong_Li_vs._Li_Gong that Gong is Gong Li's surname. There's like an edit war here for the past year: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gong_Li&action=history — Preceding unsigned comment added by Timmyshin (talk • contribs)

Chongming Island

I'm not sure it should be redirected to Chongming County, since I just discovered a significant albeit small part of the northern shore belongs to the Jiangsu cities of Haimen and Qidong. Perhaps we can work on making it a separate article? TLA 3x ♭ → ♮ 04:34, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

You're absolutely correct. In addition to the difference you noted, Chongming County also includes two fairly large islands, Changxing and Hengsha, neither of which has an article. The redirect is only a temporary measure, as there is about 80-90% overlap between the island and the county. It would be great if you could work on expanding/creating the articles. However, I'll be travelling most of the summer and won't be able to make any substantial contribution in the next two months. -Zanhe (talk) 06:23, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

Then have fun travelling. I haven't had the luxury of a vacation outlasting a week for quite a few years. xP TLA 3x ♭ → ♮ 06:47, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

Travelling ≠ vacation. But I'll try to enjoy it anyways. -Zanhe (talk) 06:57, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

Correct defaultsort?

Lin Tin Kyaw's default sort says "Kyaw, Lin Tin", however all other "Lin ____ " put "Lin,____"[5], [6] Check? After all, listas are usually produced with the help of defaultsort. Thanks OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 10:19, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

@OccultZone: Burmese names are a class of their own, with no surnames but many honorifics. I don't know how Lin Tin Kyaw should be properly sorted. -Zanhe (talk) 19:08, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

It is correct or not, may need to be checked, for example, Than Shwe, Ne Win, Aung San Suu Kyi have their exact names as default sort. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 19:37, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

Uyghurs

Given that you have recently commented on the ANI concerning the behaviour of an editor on the Uyghur people page, I'm wondering if you are interested in offering an opinion on the continuing problem here or what should be done about his edits. I've been trying to fit his edits into something that is readable and properly sourced, but he seems to have an attachment to what he wrote and insists on reverting even when it is pointed out that his edits are written badly and unsourced, or are not relevant to the section concerned. Hzh (talk)

@Hzh: I've reverted his most recent unexplained edit which undid much of your work, while introducing many obvious errors. Please note that I'm travelling for the summer and probably won't be able to follow up on the development. -Zanhe (talk) 19:14, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for your help. Some pages seem to attract more problems than others, and it is a lot of work to keep them in some sort of shape. I will probably not keep a close eye on that article because there are many more that require attention and are far less troublesome. Hzh (talk) 20:50, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

DYK nomination of C. T. Loo

Hello! Your submission of C. T. Loo at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 21:39, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

Question

Hope your holiday is going well. I was wondering if, assuming you have the time, you could check Sam Poo Kong and see if the Indonesian transliteration (likely from Hokkian) is also the standard Mandarin one. 07:58, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

• Thanks! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:33, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

My pleasure. -Zanhe (talk) 02:43, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

DYK for C. T. Loo

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:38, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Su Rong

Gatoclass (talk) 04:39, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

Thanks

See Talk:Islam in China#Recent blankings and Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/TrueChinaHistory. Dougweller (talk) 10:40, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

You're very welcome, Dougweller, I know how frustrating it is to deal with disruptive POV pushers. Interestingly, while browsing the Sockpuppet investigations page linked from your message, I discovered an open SPI case against myself, initiated by a user who does little but edit warring and POV pushing. -Zanhe (talk) 04:57, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

Serendipity. Glad you found that. Dougweller (talk) 13:46, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

WP:JSTOR access

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Which Liu Fei?

Thanks for pointing out that I'd mistaken the gentleman's identity. Would you be so kind as to point me in the direction of the page where this interesting discovery should go, or indeed to tell me what the title of the page should be so that I can start it? Richard Keatinge (talk) 08:31, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

You're welcome. The names of the two princes are spelled the same in English, but their Chinese characters are different. The king/prince of Jiangdu does not currently have an article on English WP, though he has a stub on Chinese Wikipedia (zh:劉非). If you'd like to start a page, the title under the current naming convention should be Liu Fei, Prince of Jiangdu, and the existing Liu Fei should be moved to Liu Fei, Prince of Qi (the Kaogu article translates the title as King, but WP still uses the more traditional "prince" translation). I'm still travelling right now, but will be able to contribute next week when I get home. -Zanhe (talk) 01:33, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

Much obliged. I have started Liu Fei, Prince of Jiangdu using the information from the Chinese Archaeology article and from a couple of our relevant articles. I have not ventured to add anything else at all since I'd be likely to commit some other gross blunder. I hope you can improve the article. Richard Keatinge (talk) 10:28, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

@Richard Keatinge: Thanks for starting the article on the fascinating archaeological discovery. I've expanded it and nominated it for DYK. Please feel free to comment on the nomination page. -Zanhe (talk) 11:01, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for mentioning me in the DYK nomination, it looks good and you have greatly improved the article. Richard Keatinge (talk) 21:02, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

3RR heads up

You have already reverted 4 times.

Your recent editing history at Neville Maxwell shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.

To avoid being blocked, instead of reverting please consider using the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection. The Discoverer (talk) 12:05, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

I count three, unless you include the edit that added the Garver quote per your request on the talk page. Three is of course too many, but I got carried away when I saw someone with a history of uncritically adding partisan sources to controversial articles all of a sudden become so critical of a neutral, academic source. -Zanhe (talk) 20:37, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

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Nikkimaria (talk) 03:05, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

Introduction

Hello, I just wanted to introduce myself as a fellow editor interested in China-related topics. I noticed you have made some wonderful contributions to this area, and have been copy-editing some recent article creations related to the corruption cases since 2013. Keep up the good work! I have been browsing around the template {{CPCCorruption2013}} to do some copy-editing and it is great to have help. These articles were mostly created by a single user, Huangdan2060. I have left some tips for this user to make these articles more in line with ordinarily accepted Wiki-standards. I'd much appreciate if you could lend a helping hand with cleaning up these articles and creating new ones, including articles about those officials who are of similar rank but have not been investigated (currently it seems we just have a large number of corrupt sub-provincial level officials with full articles but many national level officials who have very little coverage). Colipon+(Talk) 17:59, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

Hi Colipon, great to hear from you. I wrote a few dozen current province- and minister-level politicians last year, because no one else was doing it. But to be honest, I much prefer to write about history and art than the (mostly) colourless apparatchiks. Unfortunately, there's so much to write (there are several hundred articles on my mental to-do list) and so few people are contributing in a meaningful way, that I feel burned out sometimes. One top of that, you get those persistent POV pushers to deal with. Sigh. -Zanhe (talk) 04:48, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

I totally understand. I think I just got a little excited because I saw other users (such as you and Huangdan2060) taking interest in articles in the arcane world of Chinese officialdom and needed some friends. I prefer writing about history as well.

Might I suggest while we are on this topic that we unify the way by which we write titles of Shengwei Shuji on Wikipedia. Currently there have been many variations - Communist Party Chief, party chief, party boss, party head, Party Secretary, Communist Party Secretary, Secretary of CPC Committee, and so forth. We should pick one and stick with it. What do you think? I personally prefer "Communist Party Secretary of [X]" in the introduction of an article and infoboxes, and "party chief" thereafter. Huangdan's views are welcome as well. Colipon+(Talk) 04:01, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

Huangdan2060 has been doing great work creating all those articles, even though they sometimes need a bit of copyediting. I see that you used to be a lot more active a few years ago. Are you considering resuming your previous level of contribution? I'm sure there are a lot of things we can work together on. I agree with your suggestion about the Party Secretary translation, and I don't think I'd been consistent in the past, just going with whatever English source I was using at the time. -Zanhe (talk) 06:38, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

I do wish more users like Huangdan would come around. We need more people creating articles. The rest of the community will copy-edit them in due time. I myself have began creating some articles lately because I have been inspired somewhat, though I cannot forsee resuming my previous levels of contribution. That said I am happy to work together on things where I can contribute, time permitting. One irritating thing about Wikipedia is that there are requirements to source things even though the subject is unlikely to ever be terribly contentious; more over the proliferation of 'meta-elements' of articles such as category division schemes, birth and death data, infoboxes, templates, etc., they all create more work with more code. I just want to write so this is a bit of a turn-off. What are your areas of focus now? Which era of history do you write about? I favourite historical subjects are the Cultural Revolution and Qing Dynasty. Colipon+(Talk) 18:52, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

I know, getting references and categories right is tedious, although you get a hang of it after a while. My main areas of interest are the most ancient (pre-Qin, mainly Zhou dynasty) and the most recent (ROC and PRC until the end of the Cultural Revolution). I also enjoy writing about film history, art history, and biographies of scholars. Unfortunately I spend too much time doing maintenance work, and not enough time writing. Thanks for your new articles Gu Mu and Ji Dengkui. Now I can cross out two from my mental to-do list. -Zanhe (talk) 04:33, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

Hongliang

The random name Philyaw was there because the page format was copy pasted. WikiOriginal-9 (talk) 11:55, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

I figured. Thanks for the explanation. -Zanhe (talk) 16:53, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Liu Fei, Prince of Jiangdu

—HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 12:08, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

Guo Dongli

Thanks for your encouragement and your copyedit of "Beijing Daily". I didn't vote in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Guo Dongli because I am not 100% sure. The article may be an autobiography, so I'm inclined to delete it. But I think to let others to judge would be better --Huang Jinghai (talk) 09:54, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

Could you please explain...

Could you please explain how, when you honored your obligations under WP:BEFORE, you didn't notice when you proposed merging Category:Uyghur people to Category:Uyghurs that 18 or more of the elements in Category:Uyghurs weren't people? Geo Swan (talk) 12:24, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

What are you talking about? WP:BEFORE is about deletions, and my proposal is simply to merge two categories whose names are synonyms. See my response at the discussion page. -Zanhe (talk) 22:33, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Zhangye Danxia National Geological Park

The DYK project (nominate) 14:33, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Deng Liqun

The DYK project (nominate) 14:36, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

Lü Zushan

Thanks for your many contributions on Lü Zushan. It looks more like a proper bio article now. - Metal lunchbox ^(talk) 12:52, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for your contributions too! I'm glad that our disagreement resulted in something positive. Maybe we'll find something else to collaborate on in the future. Cheers! -Zanhe (talk) 05:21, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Lü Zushan

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:02, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Larry Wortzel

—HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 12:03, 26 September 2014 (UTC)

DYK review after a long time

Hello my friend, how are you? It has been quite long time since we talked. Can you please review this DYK nomination? I have written this DYK after a long time so can you please review?? Thank you very much. Jim Carter (from public cyber) 15:46, 27 September 2014 (UTC)

Sorry about the delay. I've reviewed the nomination. Nice work! -Zanhe (talk) 08:41, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

Thank you very much. :) Jim Carter 08:39, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Gu Mu

—HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 00:02, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

Precious again

Chinese artists and monarchs
Thank you for quality articles on Chinese topics, culture, such as the China Art Museum, and its people, monarchs and politicians, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:36, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

A year ago, you were the 620th recipient of my PumpkinSky Prize, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:47, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Thanks again Gerda! -Zanhe (talk) 08:10, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Tang Yijie

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:03, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Zu Dashou

—HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 00:03, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Wang Ruofei

—HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 00:03, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

Administrator noticeboard incident section

I expect you to change the title. It is Plagiarism, BLP violation, and long-term POV pushing by User:The Discoverer, make it Plagiarism, BLP violation, Copyright infringement and long-term POV pushing by User:The Discoverer. Just for user preference. Thank you. Bladesmulti (talk) 23:00, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

Bladesmulti, thanks for uncovering the The Discoverer's history of copyright infringement; I missed that. Your suggestion makes sense given the new information you added, but since other users have already commented, I'm reluctant to modify it in the middle of the discussion. And "plagiarism" somewhat covers "copyright infringement" anyway. Cheers! -Zanhe (talk) 03:53, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Enrique Zileri

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:04, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

The Discoverer

See my response at his talk page; I removed part of what I'd told him (I'd messed up, having misread the ANI discussion), but I'm strongly leaning against making any other changes. Nyttend (talk) 23:40, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

Thanks & a question on Lady Meng

Thanks (once again!) for the work on Lady Meng Jiang, but I wanted to clarify on your comment on removing the "Chinese name" template: "actually, her name follows the pre-Qin convention for Chinese women: Meng means eldest, and Jiang is her ancestral surname)."

The story, as I understand it, up to at least the Han and more likely the Tang, concerned Qi Liang's Wife, not Meng. Don't later versions treat Meng as her family name? I'm wondering if we shouldn't mention this at some point, but I don't have a reference to either the pre-Qin usage or to a way of adding that "Meng" as a family name came only later (if indeed it did). If you have to spend more than 2 minutes on this, then let's just let things stand the way they are, since it doesn't affect anything important one way or the other. Cheers, ch (talk) 19:53, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

CWH, thanks for your excellent work expanding the article! Ancient Chinese naming systems are very complex and long forgotten by the general public (even Sima Qian got it wrong sometimes), and most people do assume Meng to be her surname. The most comprehensive scholarly work I've seen on the subject is this book, which unfortunately is not readable online (I own a copy but have only read bits of it). A few other books, which specifically discuss Lady Meng Jiang's name and the pre-Qin naming convention, are available on Google, such as this and this. Also see Wen Jiang, another noblewoman from Qi with a similar name. Cheers! -Zanhe (talk) 21:45, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

CWH, I was in a hurry and misread part of your question. As I understand it, Qi Liang's wife is the prototype of Meng Jiang, it's just she wasn't given a name until the Tang dynasty. The name she was given, Meng Jiang, would have been a very common one for women in the state of Qi, as Jiang was the royal surname of the state, and Meng means the eldest child (who is not born to the main wife). See this book. -Zanhe (talk) 04:25, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

I added a little bit to the article based on your info. Thanks -- this is very informative! ch (talk) 18:47, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

Johnson Line

Thank you for the response at the Discoverer's talk, but I'd rather not have a conversation between us at his talk page. Before writing my note to him, I attempted to read the USMC publication that you linked, but for whatever reason, the site wouldn't let me view it, so I'm treating it as an offline source, just like the Maxwell book that's not online. [Note that this next sentence sounds really offensive. I'm really sorry; I don't know how better to put it!] With all of the offline sources, I'm trying to start off by not assuming that either of you is telling the truth about the sources: I want to investigate for myself and make a decision, influenced by you and by him but not relying on your or his assessments of what's going on when I can't see for myself, since both of you are parties to the decision; I want to treat both of you equally, and I can't simply assume good faith because it's clearly not possible for both of you to be doing the right thing. That's why I've relied on viewing the Maxwell book that's online via scribd; I'm inclined to believe you because your statements of his behavior with other sources matches what I can see of his behavior with that source. However, I still don't want to take any actions based solely on your perspective; I'm going to wait until I can see things for myself or until your perspective is supported by someone who's not been involved in here at all. I wish I were more familiar with the topic, but modern India is very far from my expertise. Nyttend (talk) 01:05, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

@Nyttend: thanks for the note. With regard to the USMC source, I don't know why you can't access the site, but you might be able to read it on archive.org. -Zanhe (talk) 03:06, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

Move

FYI I just moved Zhu Yihai, Prince of Lu to Zhu Yihai and Zhu Changqing, Prince of Huai to Zhu Changqing. Thought I'd like you to know. Timmyshin (talk) 02:53, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

@Timmyshin: looks good. Thanks for letting me know. Cheers, Zanhe (talk) 02:59, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Zhang Xi (PRC politician)

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:02, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

Another Chinese name

Something different this time! It's for a Dutchman! Pah Wongso had a Chinese wife, and was active in the Chinese Indonesian community. I was wondering if this could be his name rendered in Hokkian or Mandarin. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:23, 17 October 2014 (UTC)

@Crisco 1492: Yes, that seems almost certainly to be his name written in Chinese characters. Searching his Chinese name, the only thing I found was a bio of Wu Cun (Wu Tsun), the director of Pah Wongso Tersangka. Wu was a Chinese director and writer who escaped to the Dutch East Indies after the Japanese invasion. He was also the original lyricist of Rose, Rose, I Love You. Interesting connection! I'll write a quick bio about him when I have time. -Zanhe (talk) 22:37, 17 October 2014 (UTC)

• Wow, thanks! I've got a short Indonesian-language article from 1941 here, so I can use that to help you expand. Just ping me when you've started. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:25, 17 October 2014 (UTC)

• Oh, thanks for writing about this really interesting person. I read the whole article and found it fascinating. -Zanhe (talk) 23:44, 17 October 2014 (UTC)

• Indeed. A few similarities to myself, actually. Save for the starring in movies . I'm curious if his employment office/school is still open. Wongso died forty years ago, so I'd be surprised, but it is possible. I've never been to Blandongan, though I've passed down nearby Gadjah Mada St. a few times. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:41, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

Scratch that, the building looks dilapidated. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:44, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Mamilla Mall

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Yoninah (talk) 15:29, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

Hi, I suggested other alts. Yoninah (talk) 18:36, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Ji Dengkui

Hello! Your submission of Ji Dengkui at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 15:46, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Ji Dengkui

—HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 12:04, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

Chinese characters and pinyin

Hello, good to see you continue the article creation drive! I think we should talk about how to unify the formatting of pinyin and Chinese characters at the beginning of articles, namely, would you prefer that they appear in the opening line using template {{zh|c=}}... or would you prefer relegating everything to the infobox {{Chinese}}? Personally, I like having at least the original Chinese name in the opening line, but we can exclude the pinyin and other romanizations (exceptions can be made). The reason I don't like having everything in an infobox (such as what user Huangdan has been doing) is because the subjects of some of these articles is only really known within the Chinese-speaking community, or in some cases, almost everything that has been written about them is in the Chinese language. As such it should be immediately apparent to the reader what the subject's Chinese name is. For example in the article on Zhao Hongzhu, I would be in favour of keeping the infobox, but retaining at least a Simplified Chinese name in parentheses in the opening line; the traditional Chinese and pinyin can go in the infobox. Colipon+(Talk) 15:51, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

I don't have a strong opinion on this, except that the lead should not be cluttered with more than two permutations of foreign language terms. Keeping one instance of the most widely used Chinese representation in the lead, while moving to rest to the infobox, is probably the best approach. So your proposal wrt Zhao Hongzhu sounds good to me. -Zanhe (talk) 19:40, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

Hundred family surnames

Ji was the ancestral name of the kings of Zhou and Wu. This book was written during the song dynasty. The descendants of Zhou changed their surname from Ji to Zhou during the Qin dynasty. Same with the descendants of Fuchai of Wu, so what I put there is not "nonsense". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 104.172.46.132 (talk) 05:43, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

The descendants can change their surnames to whatever they want, but that does not retrospectively change the surnames of their ancestors. -Zanhe (talk) 05:52, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

They changed their surnames to honor their respective states/country. Tell me, since Gugong Danfu's (pre dynastic Zhou's leader) oldest son, TAIBO is the starter of WU, and JILI(Danfu's youngest son)was the heir and his grandson started the Zhou dynasty...you really can't see the significance of the surnames "Zhou" and "Wu" being one of the first names of the poem? If it is so unimportant and insignificant as you claim, then please explain why it is up there with the other "elite" surnames. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 104.172.46.132 (talk) 06:12, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

According to Song dynasty scholar Wang Mingqing, Zhou, Wu, Zheng, Wang were the surnames of the wives of Qian Chu, the last emperor of Wuyue. They have nothing to do with the Zhou dynasty or the Wu kingdom. If they ancient kings were so important, then Ji and Liu would be ranked much higher. -Zanhe (talk) 06:40, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Zai Yu

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:04, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Ran Qiu

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:04, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Zhong You

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:57, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

		The China Barnstar
		A well-deserved star for your hard work on China-related articles, particularly on the disciples of Confucius. Yunshui 雲水 09:09, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

Yunshui, thank you very much for your encouragement, and for the hard work you've done yourself! -Zanhe (talk) 00:53, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Zhuansun Shi

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:01, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

TOTW Zhangye Danxia National Geological Park

Hello, just to inform you that the article Zhangye Danxia National Geological Park is actually candidated for Translation of the week. --Holapaco77 (talk) 22:47, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

That's great. Thanks for letting me know. I see that it's already been translated into Portuguese. -Zanhe (talk) 20:00, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Leishu

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 22:04, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Li Lianyu

Hello, Zanhe! You inspired me to attempt some more DYK's. I thought I would ask you the favour of reviewing this article for me for DYK... there is virtually no mention of this person in the English-speaking world, but he has been a favourite topic for Chinese-language media outlets. Regards, Colipon+(Talk) 05:41, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

Great to see your increased contributions, they are badly needed! I'll be glad to review the DYK, hopefully in a day or two. And no need to apologize for not having English sources. There are several DYK contributors who can read Chinese. And other reviewers will generally AGF on sources they cannot read. -Zanhe (talk) 06:57, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Qu Qinyue

I have placed a new hook there. Many thanks for your review!--Huang (talk) 07:49, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Yan Yan (disciple of Confucius)

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:53, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Nangong Kuo (disciple of Confucius)

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:22, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

Fu Buqi

Hi, I just approved your DYK nomination of this article. I think you do a very good job avoiding close paraphrasing. There was just one complete phrase that I put in quotes; you may wish to rewrite it in your own words. I'd also like to note that the Slingerland source doesn't use the word junzi, just "gentleman". You may wish to add another cite to that sentence, perhaps the Wu Xiaoyun one? Best, Yoninah (talk) 23:17, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for your review and improvement to the article, Yoninah. I rephrased the sentence, and added a Chinese language source for the "junzi" cite. Cheers! -Zanhe (talk) 04:22, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Kong Youde

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:23, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Yuan Xian

Hello! Your submission of Yuan Xian at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 22:29, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Tantai Mieming

Thanks from the wiki Victuallers (talk) 00:03, 28 November 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Yuan Xian

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:27, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Fu Buqi

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:03, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Pan Fusheng

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 18:28, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

ITN credit

ThaddeusB (talk) 21:44, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

Shanghai Jewish Refugees Museum

Hello! Your submission of Shanghai Jewish Refugees Museum at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Philafrenzy (talk) 00:53, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Kongzi Jiayu

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 01:36, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

Invitation to create another list

Hello Zanhe, I understand that you have written the list of provincial leaders of China. I have created the "list of current Chinese provincial governors" in the Chinese Wikipedia, so I would like to ask if you wish to create another similar list in English. Thank you! HYH.124 (talk) 06:02, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

HYH.124, thanks for your continued contributions (and glad that you came out of your retirement). The List of provincial leaders of China actually was created by User:ASDFGH, and I only updated it. It seems that all essential info (except the refs) in your list on the zh-wiki is already included in the existing list of provincial leaders, and I don't really see the need to create a separate one. Cheers, -Zanhe (talk) 06:20, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Shanghai Jewish Refugees Museum

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:21, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Special Barnstar
	I really like your articles! Thank you very much for being a such active editor to share your knowledge with all of the world!---Yuan. Icely88 (talk) 14:28, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

Glad you enjoyed reading them, Icely88, and thanks for your encouragement! I don't really have that much knowledge; I only know where to find reliable sources of it :-) -Zanhe (talk) 19:50, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

Discard of Good Will

Your discard of good will(good faith) that you will no longer engage in constructive editing on Korean topics and and to go further in threatening me with disruptive ANI attempts to ban me from Korea-related article is very troublesome. I've made an appropriate response at ANI, where I shall see to it that your dishonest attempt of intimidation will not go unanswered. And once again, I have not made any racist remarks on that convenient website of yours, and your accusation on such grounds pretty much threw away good faith and deeply offended me. Cydevil38 (talk) 08:20, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

See my reply at the ANI case. By the way, the "convenient website" is not mine. I was citing Benlisquare's old ANI complaint against you. -Zanhe (talk) 20:57, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Zeng Dian

Mike V • Talk 06:44, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

Review please

Dear DYK expert, Zanhe. How are you? I hope all is well with you. I have recently expanded an article ~7 folds. It is nominated for DYK so I was wondering if you can review the DYK nomination. Thank you very much. Have a nice day! :) Jim Carter (from public cyber) 18:38, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

Hi Jim Cartar, sorry I was busy yesterday and only had a few minutes for Wikipedia. Looks like someone beat me to it and already started the review. I'll try to act faster next time. Cheers, -Zanhe (talk) 20:26, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

Zanhe, the nomination needs another review. You can review it now. Thank you. Jim Carter (from public cyber) 06:26, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

Thank you very much, Zanhe. DYK is not broken like RfA only because of kind editors like you. Thank you again. Have a nice day! Jim Carter 13:44, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Gao Chai

Mike V • Talk 07:45, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive865#Long-term_disruptive_user_Cydevil38

Do you think this should be placed back from being automatic archived? Because I think it will once again go like last time with no decision, which is very detrimental. It needs a decision. And frankly, the user has once again propped-up his/her centric views while not giving due weight to all information as cited in sources at Gojoseon, removing them even. Too bad it's a busy time at the moment for me. And even though the RFC is against the user, I think that the little input of other users will just leave the article with one thing: the user pushing his/her views once again against sources and consensus. --Cold Season (talk) 21:53, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the note, Cold Season. Unfortunately, the nature of Wikipedia makes it difficult to deal with determined POV pushers who are not excessively uncivil, especially in topics that most admins are not familiar with. See WP:Civil POV pushing. As the holidays are approaching, I'll have little time for Wikipedia in the next few weeks, so I guess we'll just let it slide this time. If he persists in pushing his POV too far in the future, then we'll try 3RR and/or ANI again with the new evidence. My hope is that he'll read some of the scholarly sources provided and get to understand the whole background of the issue, not just from the narrow nationalistic point of view. -Zanhe (talk) 09:04, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

Focus on progress in improving articles or stopping the actions that are detrimental to articles... choices, I guess. Inaction is a rather despicable situation. But you're right, we've wasted too much time on the user's actions. Cheers, Cold Season (talk) 18:18, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Shang Qu

Harrias ^talk 12:02, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Bu Shang

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:02, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

Pangu

I started a topic on Talk:Pangu regarding the hatnote. I'd like if you could comment on it. hbdragon88 (talk) 08:26, 30 December 2014 (UTC)