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edit- Ryo Sakazaki (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Getting this out of the way: the article is huge, but FANDOM pages are also huge, that doesn't have anything to do with a character's notability. In this case, Ryo does not appear notable, and the article only reinforces how Dan Hibiki, the character who is a parody of him, is probably notable while Ryo is not. What is not primary-sourced development information or plot summary is sourced entirely to trivial mentions or listicles that mention him alongside all other characters, only indicating KOF characters are notable as a group. I appreciate the effort to improve the article but Boneless Pizza was likely correct to redirect it in 2023. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 20:52, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
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- I made sure it in reception to make sure it had a big impact not only in game journalists discussing him on his own in different countries. Also real people. There are cases of people reacting to his marketing, developers inspired by his story or involving him or simply how important was him being a guest character in Fatal Fury Special also inspired the creation of the fighting game franchise KOF.Tintor2 (talk) 21:08, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- In case it helps, I added several new articles focused around him just now.Tintor2 (talk) 22:01, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: There are many articles on SNK characters (List of The King of Fighters characters), where I would struggle with notability. The recent additions don't show a significant change in notability. I think covering the character in an article together with SNK's other character would be more useful. IgelRM (talk) 20:18, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- 'Comment After talking with other users, I tried cleaning up the article by removing reviews and pointless revisions. Most of thecurrent articles are primarily focused on the characters and games narrative with the exception of his Mr. Karate alterego which is more rare so I used few previews for that. Furthermore, I have just found that the internet meme was far more popular worldwide and expanded on it. I also made sure to keep the only important Fatal Fury parts as Ryo's inclusion in FFSpecial is famous for inspiring the KOF franchise as well as guest characters. Same with his role in kof as I only placed articles focused on him and or team. I also changed the commentary of Dan Hibiki and how the company reacted to Dan's character by creating another parody character.Tintor2 (talk) 17:32, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- Rias Gremory (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Character appears to fail standalone notability, and much of the article seems to fall under WP:FANCRUFT. The vast majority of the article is unsourced aside from primary references to episodes of the anime, and almost all the secondary references are only in the "reception" section. Almost none of these references meet WP:SIGCOV: 1 only briefly covers Highschool DxD, and is mostly about Jamie Marchi, 2 is primary, 3-23 are WP:USERG, and 24-29 are just describing merchandise, and most of them are USERG. 30 is the only reference that may be a reliable secondary source, but the article does not give significant coverage to Rias, and her cosplay is not ranked particularly high. Almost nothing about Rias appears on Google Scholar, nothing at all on JSTOR, and Google News only contains trivial mentions of Highschool DxD in general, and almost none of them are specific to Rias. The article overall reads like something from a Highschool DxD fan wiki, and Rias seems to lack any standalone notability. This article should be merged into List of High School DxD characters in a greatly abridged form. Masskito (talk)
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- Merge Extremely selectively, per nom. Rias is not independently notable and the article is WP:REFBOMBed with trivial mentions. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 20:55, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- Merge to List of High School DxD characters per Zxcvbnm. There is some coverage that doesn't quite break passed WP:TRIVIALMENTIONs. It's best to mention this as part of an article about a notable topic, per WP:ATD. Shooterwalker (talk) 13:56, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- Danny Reagan (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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WP:FANCRUFT article with almost exclusively primary sources. No evidence of notability outside of the confines of the show and no information that can't be found at List of Blue Bloods characters. Mbdfar (talk) 03:06, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- Jamie Reagan may also be of questionable notability. Mbdfar (talk) 03:09, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. These are the lead characters in a highly popular and well-discussed series. A Google News search returns hundreds of results, including articles primarily about the character, e.g., the just-published "Why Blue Bloods Fans Can't Stand Danny Reagan", Kieran Fisher, Looper (September 9, 2024); "It's Time for 'Blue Bloods' to Give Danny a New Romance", Jenna Kaylor, Collider (April 20, 2024). In print media, see, e.g., Les Linz, "Lessons from Blue Bloods that we can learn", The Seymour Tribune (July 31, 2021), p. A4, primarily about the Danny Reagan character. The ease with which sources can be found suggests that not a modicum of WP:BEFORE was done for this nomination. BD2412 T 03:24, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- No questioning the notability of the series. Trivial mentions and characterizations in low-quality pop culture websites as your Google News search supplies does not indicate stand-alone notability outside of the context of the show. The character, despite being a lead, does not inherit notability from the show. I fail to see the encyclopedic value of the Looper article of recycled Reddit comments or the simple plot synopses found in the Collider article. I'm not even sure how to address the The Seymour Tribune piece. Mbdfar (talk) 03:39, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- If you're not sure how to address an article that ran in a print newspaper, then perhaps you should consider dropping it. Here's another source from near the very beginning of the series: "From New Kid to tough cop", David Hiltbrand, The Hackensack Record (November 11, 2011), p. G35. By the way, Newspapers.com returns over 800 hits for "Danny Reagan" "Blue Bloods", so I can do this all day. BD2412 T 03:43, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- I only say that because it is a fluff article relating the character to biblical proverbs which does not seem encyclopedic, though it at least is relating the character to something outside of the show. That Hackensack article is about the actor, and I do not question the notability of Donnie Wahlberg. This is a very unimpressive WP:THREE. Mbdfar (talk) 03:48, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- The Hackensack article is about the actor being the portrayer of the character, even as early as 2011. There are also over a dozen Google Scholar returns for "Danny Reagan" "Blue Bloods", which indicate that there is also some degree of scholarly examination of the character, beyond the pop culture coverage. BD2412 T 03:52, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah, a popular actor playing in a popular show will get coverage. Did you click on any of those Scholar links? I see undergraduate papers, theses, and trivial mentions. There were a couple I could not access, perhaps you can take some time to find out if there is anything usable. Mbdfar (talk) 04:02, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- The Hackensack article is about the actor being the portrayer of the character, even as early as 2011. There are also over a dozen Google Scholar returns for "Danny Reagan" "Blue Bloods", which indicate that there is also some degree of scholarly examination of the character, beyond the pop culture coverage. BD2412 T 03:52, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- I only say that because it is a fluff article relating the character to biblical proverbs which does not seem encyclopedic, though it at least is relating the character to something outside of the show. That Hackensack article is about the actor, and I do not question the notability of Donnie Wahlberg. This is a very unimpressive WP:THREE. Mbdfar (talk) 03:48, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- If you're not sure how to address an article that ran in a print newspaper, then perhaps you should consider dropping it. Here's another source from near the very beginning of the series: "From New Kid to tough cop", David Hiltbrand, The Hackensack Record (November 11, 2011), p. G35. By the way, Newspapers.com returns over 800 hits for "Danny Reagan" "Blue Bloods", so I can do this all day. BD2412 T 03:43, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- No questioning the notability of the series. Trivial mentions and characterizations in low-quality pop culture websites as your Google News search supplies does not indicate stand-alone notability outside of the context of the show. The character, despite being a lead, does not inherit notability from the show. I fail to see the encyclopedic value of the Looper article of recycled Reddit comments or the simple plot synopses found in the Collider article. I'm not even sure how to address the The Seymour Tribune piece. Mbdfar (talk) 03:39, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Redirect to List_of_Blue_Bloods_characters#Danny Reagan. Notability may or may not be an issue, but WP:NOT#PLOT is. No need for a WP:SPINOUT article at this point; the LoC is sufficent until an editor comes around to cover this encyclopedically. – sgeureka t•c 09:59, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect per Sgeureka. Once this is condensed down to reliable secondary sources, there isn't much left to WP:PRESERVE. A very selective merge is also a valid WP:ATD. Shooterwalker (talk) 19:04, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- Merge. from the history, was created by removing content from the list, follows that if creation is undone, removal of that content from the list must be undone. New sourced material should be merged as well. Same should go for Jamie Reagan, can be done bold/speedy. Hyperbolick (talk) 07:27, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- List of fictional rodents in animation (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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A large majority of the list is completely unreferenced, a vast majority of the "notes" are unencyclopedic. May also fail Wikipedia:Listcruft. Sir MemeGod :D (talk - contribs - created articles) 15:16, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete per nom. A redirect back to List of fictional rodents would be fine, per WP:ATD and WP:AVOIDSPLIT. Shooterwalker (talk) 18:28, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to List of fictional rodents#Animation - The only reason this got so long that a split was necessary to begin with is because no attempt was being made to stick to any kind of criteria to limit it only to notable examples, on either this or the parent list. Remove the copious amounts of non-notable and dubious examples and condense the multiple entries that come from the same topic (i.e., have one entry for groups like The Chipmunks rather than listing them individually as separate entries), and it would fit neatly into the main list without the need for a split. This spinout list is very poorly sourced, so I'm not going to formally advocate for a Merge, but Redirecting will preserve the history here. Rorshacma (talk) 19:33, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete, mostly fancruft and listcruft. Stanley Joseph Wilkins (talk) 03:11, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Pointless and fancrufty split. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 20:58, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:LISTCRUFT. Conyo14 (talk) 05:15, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- Merge missing blue-linked entries to List of fictional rodents: I think this split is not necessary, a trimmed version would fit into the parent list size-wise. But whatever happened to WP:Alternative to deletion? List of fictional rodents could also use improvements, but is clearly useful for navigation in accordance with WP:LISTPURP-NAV. And a number of notable entries are present here but not at List of fictional rodents. So simple deletion or redirection would hurt the value of the parent list for navigation and be detrimental to the project, a case of WP:BATHWATER. Daranios (talk) 15:23, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- Nien Nunb (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Minor series character whose article is entirely fancruft, with a WP:BEFORE turning up no notable independent coverage. The article was recreated after having been previously voted as delete in its first AfD and it's remained the same old, same old since then. A redirect to List of Star Wars characters#Nien Nunb is suggested, and possibly a salting of the article. 💥Casualty • Hop along. • 19:35, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Redirect to List of Star Wars characters#Nien Nunb as an alternative to AFD. Not seeing much.Timur9008 (talk) 12:36, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
Keep I was able to find/observe significant coverage of the topic with reliable, reliable and independent sources that mention the character, my position is to maintain a serious illogical redirection, the character is very relevant and maintains a verified and evidenced context. --Alon9393 (talk)16:45, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- Striking vote from blocked editor. 💥Casualty • Hop along. • 06:43, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- Restore Redirect per WP:ATD. There isn't independent coverage and there wasn't really much evidence to split it in the first place. Shooterwalker (talk) 02:20, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect per nom and other rationales. Not enough independent coverage here. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 16:26, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- List of Pugad Baboy villains (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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WP:OR without independent sources or any justification of the notability of the group. Fails other policies about what Wikipedia is not, such as "Wikipedia is not a directory". Jontesta (talk) 18:52, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete as per nomination. (This material could be used on a Pugad Baboy Wiki, however.) TH1980 (talk) 00:16, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- List of Bulletman enemies (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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WP:OR without independent sources or any justification of the notability of the group. Fails other policies about what Wikipedia is not, such as "Wikipedia is not a directory". Jontesta (talk) 18:49, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete - There are no reliable sources that discuss the overall topic of Bulletman and/or Bulletgirl's enemies as a group or set, making this a failure of the WP:GNG and WP:LISTN. On top of that, nearly all of these entries are one-shot characters that appeared in single issues. I was going to suggest a very selective merge to Bulletman and Bulletgirl#Rogues_gallery (i.e., mentioning the two or three entries here that were actually reoccurring), but as this list is completely unsourced, a merger would not really be appropriate. No prejudice against actually filling out that section of the main article with reliably sourced information on their handful of actually reoccurring rogues, though. Rorshacma (talk) 19:05, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Merge with the rogues gallery section at Bulletman and Bulletgirl. --Rtkat3 (talk) 01:22, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete No significant coverage from reliable sources. Azuredivay (talk) 16:56, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete No significant coverage and reliable sources are present, does not look suitable for Wikipedia. Stanley Joseph Wilkins (talk) 03:12, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- Mesklin (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non-notable article about a location composed of unreliable or primary sources. For WP:Before, a search showed only trivial mentions and in-universe plot summaries, without significant coverage or reception. Jontesta (talk) 18:46, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Merge to Mission of Gravity. Some part of the text can be salvaged, and the novel is the main "user" of Mesklin. Clarityfiend (talk) 23:21, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- Comment Mesklin gets a fair amount of discussion in literature about science fiction (mostly in the context of Mission of Gravity). It is generally considered a (or even the) prototypical example of hard science fiction worldbuilding. Some examples:
- The Dictionary of Science Fiction Places p. 199
- The Visual Encyclopedia of Science Fiction p. 87
- The Science in Science Fiction p. 56
- How Space Physics Really Works: Lessons from Well-Constructed Science Fiction p. 31
- A Companion to Science Fiction p. 195
- There are also things like "Applying Science to Fiction: A Look at the Fictional Planet Mesklin" (which I am unfortunately not able to read the full text of), and much, much more is available by simply searching for "Mesklin" at the Internet Archive (I haven't read it in full, but the first hit leads to Donald M. Hassler's chapter "The Irony in Hal Clement's World Building" in Science Fiction Dialogues, which covers Mesklin for several pages). I don't think WP:Notability is seriously in question here, and there's certainly an argument to be made that the fictional planet gets more attention as the point of focus in the secondary literature than the story it first appeared in. TompaDompa (talk) 13:19, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- Merge per Clarityfiend to Mission of Gravity. WP:BEFORE shows that the reception of the novel its science are covered in the same scope. Both articles are under sourced and will improve through a merge, per WP:ATD. Shooterwalker (talk) 19:02, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- Update I have located a fair number of sources providing coverage of Mesklin and have begun the process of rewriting and expanding the article based on these sources. Based on what I have found, I think merging this article with the Mission of Gravity article would be misguided. At minimum, I would suggest relisting this discussion to give more time for rewriting and expanding the article so we can make as informed a decision on the matter as possible. TompaDompa (talk) 21:55, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- New Genesis (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non-notable article about a location composed of unreliable or primary sources. For WP:Before, a search showed only trivial mentions and in-universe plot summaries, without significant coverage or reception. Jontesta (talk) 18:45, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Move to New Genesis (DC Comics) (as there is a song with that name) and then redirect to New Gods. No indication of notability. Not sure if the song is notable either, but it doesn't seem like a primary topic. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 23:08, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- Comment - I guess you are also wanting to establish a disambiguation page if that is done. As I don't recall any other New Genesis in comics, care to elaborate on why you want it called "New Genesis (DC Comics)" instead of "New Genesis (comics)"? --Rtkat3 (talk) 23:16, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- Merge to New Gods or keep. A Google Scholar search gives many hits, and more concretely there are a number of secondary sources which talk about New Genesis in the context of real-world religious inspirations, like The Gospel According to Superheroes, Theology and the DC Universe and Superheroes of the Round Table, which on p. 77 also talks about the literary consequences of the concept of New Genesis. So I cannot follow how the conclusion
only trivial mentions and in-universe plot summaries
was reached. I am convinced the secondary sources easily provide enough material to write a full encyclopedic article. Much of the analysis on New Genesis seems to be in contrasting to Apokolips, though, so possibly a treatment within the New Gods article might be best - purely on the basis of a WP:NOPAGE decision rather than notability. Not sure about the primary topic here, but no objection against a move to New Genesis (comics). Daranios (talk) 15:00, 18 September 2024 (UTC) - Merge to New Gods per WP:ATD. WP:SIGCOV is borderline, but there are fragments to WP:PRESERVE as part of a more notable topic. Shooterwalker (talk) 01:21, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- Battleworld (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non-notable article about a location composed of unreliable or primary sources. For WP:Before, a search showed only trivial mentions and in-universe plot summaries, without significant coverage or reception. Jontesta (talk) 18:44, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Merge and redirect to Secret Wars as the primary target for this fictional location, where adequate information is already covered. While arguments in the prior AfD from over a decade ago bringing up Battelworld's appearances in other related comics, I would argue that those have not received as much independent third-party coverage from reliable sources outside of its connections to the Secret Wars comics. Redirecting to the original Secret Wars comic instead of the 2015 one makes sense as the former also points to the latter comic with a dedicated section for it. I will also note that the Battleworld article has not improved much from the prior AfD and borders on pure WP:FANCRUFT, especially with its exhaustive list, as this is WP:NOTADIRECTORY. The other contents of Battleworld beyond Secret Wars can be adequately covered at those other comic articles, such as Beyond!, as brought up in the prior AfD. Trailblazer101 (talk) 03:06, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- Comment - As the first and third Battleworlds have known locations, would you prefer that they be listed in the respectful Secret Wars articles? --Rtkat3 (talk) 22:34, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, that would be the most optimal location for the relevant versions of this, although the main Battleworld stems from the original comic. Trailblazer101 (talk) 23:27, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- Comment - As the first and third Battleworlds have known locations, would you prefer that they be listed in the respectful Secret Wars articles? --Rtkat3 (talk) 22:34, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- Merge with the planets section of Features of the Marvel Universe if no worthy sources can be found by the day of this AFD closure.--Rtkat3 (talk) 22:34, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- I would argue merging a lot of content to that list would be a bit much for it, and it would be morel logical to point directly to a comic where it is an important aspect rather than shoehorning it into a list entry, which can be limiting. That entry should likely summarize the different versions from the various comics and point to those for more details. Trailblazer101 (talk) 23:29, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- Didn't you say in the last article that the respectful Battleworld descriptions would be listed in their respectful storyline appearances? Of course we can add the good parts of the Battleworld descriptions to it. --Rtkat3 (talk) 15:12, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, I did. However, the main topic would be the Secret Wars comic, not the Features list, from my understanding. Trailblazer101 (talk) 15:29, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- Didn't you say in the last article that the respectful Battleworld descriptions would be listed in their respectful storyline appearances? Of course we can add the good parts of the Battleworld descriptions to it. --Rtkat3 (talk) 15:12, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- Merge to Secret Wars as primary target, per WP:ATD. It can be additionally noted at Features of the Marvel Universe. Shooterwalker (talk) 02:16, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- Impasse (comics) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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An incredibly minor fictional character that, from what I can tell, only appeared in one, single issue of a comic. The one non-primary source being used in the article simply summarizes the plot of that single appearance. Searches turned up absolutely nothing else, not even brief mentions, on the character in reliable sources. Even fan wikis like the Marvel Database don't have an entry on the character. The character is as completely non-notable as a fictional character can possibly be, and is a complete failure of the WP:GNG. Rorshacma (talk) 00:44, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Merge & Redirect to List of Luke Cage and Iron Fist supporting characters due to lack of notability. The new article has her listed but she is one of the few characters without a description, which this merge can solve
- SJD Willoughby (talk) 00:51, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- Comment - I touched upon this in another similar AFD earlier today, but this particular case is a even bigger example of why a Merge to that article is improper. A throwaway adversary that appeared in one issue of a comic is not a "supporting character" of Iron Fist and Luke Cage. Listing the character on that page as if they were is outright misleading. Rorshacma (talk) 01:06, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- That specific problem could be solved by choosing a different suitable merge target, List of Marvel Comics characters: I, or by changing the title of List of Luke Cage and Iron Fist supporting characters to simpler (and less ambiguous?) List of Luke Cage and Iron Fist characters. Either way would be fine with me. Daranios (talk) 15:25, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- Regardless of where it is, a completely inconsequential character that made one single-issue appearance is too non-notable to be merged or mentioned anywhere. The very act of covering the character on Wikipedia in any capacity would create more notability for the character than actually exists. Rorshacma (talk) 16:25, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- That is a different objection from "listing him under supporting characters is misleading". The fact that the character has received its own entry in the specialized Encyclopedia of Super-Villains (although that one differs somewhat in nature to our encyclopedia here) in my view gives him enough notability, obviously not for a stand-alone article, but for a two-sentence summary in a list. And that view is not based on personal evaluation of the primary material. It's also one common way lists work. And I don't see a benefit in not having this condensed information. Daranios (talk) 10:40, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete so non-notable we honestly don't even need a mention. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 00:57, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- Merge to List of Luke Cage and Iron Fist supporting characters. BOZ (talk) 01:14, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- Merge to List of Luke Cage and Iron Fist supporting characters. Does not seem notable in itself, but target can be improved by content based on a secondary source present here. Daranios (talk) 10:49, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete One-off characters aren't supporting characters and (generally) don't deserve a mention. – sgeureka t•c 12:15, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete This doesn't deserve a mention and editors wouldn't search for "Impasse (comics)" anyway. Jontesta (talk) 18:58, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- About one person does per day. So not many, but also not noone. And WP:REDIRECTSARECHEAP. Daranios (talk) 10:40, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: I do not see it necessary for this to exist and so without encyclopedic context my decision is to eliminate. Alon9393 (talk) 05:24, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- Merge with List of Marvel Comics characters: I. --Rtkat3 (talk) 17:16, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. This doesn't have enough coverage to support even a mention. But I'd accept a redirect and a brief mention for the sake of WP:CONSENSUS and WP:ATD. Shooterwalker (talk) 18:26, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting as arguments are divided between Delete and Merge.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 01:28, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: For those on the fence, merge is a valid outcome despite some contrary responses above - see this and this recent AFD. BOZ (talk) 03:30, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
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Fails WP:GNG not very much WP:SIGCOV mainly just routine episode coverage Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 00:26, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Fictional elements and Television. Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 00:26, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- Keep There are a number of reliable sources which talk about this character, displaying significant real world coverage.
- Merge or weak keep. The current article state has too much WP:UNDUE plot and could be cut down to fit in the LoC no problem (most other main characters don't have standalone articles either). On the other hand, I wouldn't be surprised if there are enough sources to turn this topic into a Good Article, so it needn't stay merged forever. – sgeureka t•c 12:26, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- ETA: And there is a Prison Break character with GA status (that I don't even remember from watching the show): Alexander Mahone. – sgeureka t•c 12:28, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- Merge per Sgeureka. I have my doubts about the sources, but a merge is a good WP:ATD, and allows it to be improved. (And potentially split even if I do not see evidence of it yet.) Shooterwalker (talk) 02:13, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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