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AI -related assignment?

I've reviewed at AfC three drafts today, all by different users (seemingly, at least), and all copyvios from https://www.mygreatlearning.com/blog/expert-systems-in-artificial-intelligence/ , plus another by one of these users which was copied from https://www.researchgate.net/publication/349449607_Design_of_an_expert_system_architecture_An_overview instead. Anyone know if there's a student assignment/project going on somewhere? -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 13:54, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Said users:

• Shreee2000
• Artificial lntelligence (jumlis)
• Alia8910

-- DoubleGrazing (talk) 13:57, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

add Artificial Intelligence MLIS DAY 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 14:08, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Could this be linked? @DoubleGrazing @Timtrent Draft:R.B.T.S_Ruwange Qcne (talk) 17:57, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

I think it might be, @Qcne, I'll ask the creating editor. {{Education project}} (SUBST essential) makes this easy 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 18:25, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

If you want to get really fancy, you can {{subst:education project}}. Primefac (talk) 12:04, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

I reviewed another, User:Place_of_AI_in_Information_Retrieval/sandbox. I tagged it for G12. I have also tagged the one remaining copy for G12. Obvious copyvios should be tagged for G12. Even if no one else on the Internet takes copyright seriously, Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously. DoubleGrazing says that these are all by different users, seemingly, at least. I think that a sockpuppet report may be in order. They may be one troll. Robert McClenon (talk) 23:58, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Sockpuppet report filed. Only a Checkuser will know whether they are coming from the same IP address block. Robert McClenon (talk) 01:04, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

They were all confirmed by Checkuser and blocked. This was not a class project but some sort of misconduct. These were stupid copies, copies of web pages created by copying and pasting, losing the formatting. We see some of these stupid copies at MFD, found after having been sitting in a user page or user sandbox page of a user who came several years ago, created an account, left the coprolite, and departed. We don't know why they do this, but the stupid copies get deleted seven days after being nominated for deletion. This was a slightly different subspecies of a species of misconduct. Robert McClenon (talk) 16:47, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

@Robert McClenon another one? User:Tokyo5359/sandbox Qcne (talk) 14:53, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

User:Qcne - Likely another. SPI submitted. MFD submitted. Robert McClenon (talk) 16:59, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

Denmark related assignment

Two drafts so far by editors:

• PelleLarsen
• MaxZetterquistAndersen

It would be lovely to help these students, the more so if their grades depend on it 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 16:38, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

Medical drafts

In the past couple of hours there's been a flurry of drafts, probably some sort of (pre-med? medical sciences?) student assignment. So far I've spotted at least:

• Draft:Anti-HIV agents by Chocolatemilkkkk
• Draft:Acquired hand deformity by SweetCaramel786
• Draft:Fracture surgery by CarrotTarot223
• Draft:Dorsal pancreatic agenesis by Adadadavidz
• Draft:Liver cell damage by CharlesMo10
• Draft:Confocal endoscopy by Coweatgrass
• Draft:Chromosome mapping by Qpmz63
• Draft:Unstable DNA sequence by Sheepmehhh
• User:Gpa4.30/sandbox

A few of these have noted on their user pages that they are studying at the University of Hong Kong.

BTW, should we be pinging these users when filing such reports, or not? -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 13:36, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Pinging @Venuslui:, who used to help support education work in Hong Kong. Also pinging @無聊龍: and @だ＊ぜ:, who are listed as contacts for tutorials at m:Wikimedia Community User Group Hong Kong, so might be able to help. --LiAnna (Wiki Ed) (talk) 15:32, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Thank you, User:DoubleGrazing. You and User:Jlwoodwa and I have looked at these drafts. I have posted the Student welcome on these user pages of the ones whose drafts I saw. The instructor may be User:G.J.ThomThom. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:32, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Hi there! Yes I'm the instructor. The topics for these articles came from Wikipedia's own list of requested articles for medicine. We consult one of the Wiki contacts in Hong Kong. What I'm learning is that some of the topics on the list of requested articles may already exist but use other terminology. This may explain why some of the articles the students draft don't make it to the main space. I'd be grateful for tips for how to navigate this better. Happy for any advice and guidance. G.J.ThomThom (talk) 18:03, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

@G.J.ThomThom: Please read WP:ASSIGN if you have not read it already. Thanks. --Tryptofish (talk) 23:03, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Also Draft:Shortening of the eye muscle by Aalpaca92, possibly? jlwoodwa (talk) 17:36, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Statistics about use of sandbox vs Draft space, and about Afc

A couple of statistical questions about where Wiki Ed students develop their articles, and their release process:

1. Dev location: What number or percentage of students use a sandbox (theirs, anybody's) vs. Draft space for pre-release development?
2. Release method: What number or percentage of articles developed by students are submitted for Afc review, vs. released directly to main space (either by themselves or someone else like their instructor or WP expert)? If there is a third category, such as remaining stalled in their sandbox, please include that as well if possible.

This is to inform a question (diff) by Piotrus about the release of new articles by new editors which is a tiny part of a long VPP discussion unrelated to Wiki Ed about paid editing. Thanks for any light you can shed on this. Mathglot (talk) 00:43, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

@Mathglot From the paper me and Shani are working on and that will be presented on Wikimania next week (do stop by :>):

• Q15 Did the students work in drafts, directly on Wiki or using any other method?
• A (N-~200): user sandbox (65%), copied to mainspace from Word (17%), directly in mainspace (5%), draftspace (~2.5%), other/I don't know/they can do whatever (~10%)

PS. Do note that our study goes beyond Wiki Ed, and concerns all educators, not just those in US&Canada which is where Wiki Edu operates (although majority of our respondents come from US...).

_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 11:46, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

I'd love to hear feedback from folks involved with Wiki Ed about this, as my impression from occasional interactions is that the percentage using user sandboxes is very high (basically, every case I have encountered, but numbers are low), likely because their training modules instruct them to do so, and some of the exercises begin to create data there. Whether they are actually developing their prospective articles in the user sandbox or copying into it from an offline location, I don't know. More solid data about this would help. Mathglot (talk) 17:59, 3 August 2024 (UTC)