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1994 Winter Olympics medal table

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Nominator(s): Hey man im josh (talk) 19:59, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is my fifth Olympics medal table list and is it the only winter medal table between 1972 and 2022 which is not already featured. As always, I will do my best to respond in a timely manner and to address any and all concerns or comments that are brought up. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:59, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by Alavense

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  • 1,737 athletes - MOS:NUMNOTES: "Avoid beginning a sentence with a figure".
  • Due to scheduling changes made in 1986, with the intent to have the Summer Olympics and Winter Olympics held in different years, this was the first time the Winter games were held in a different year than the Summer Olympics - That reads a bit repetitive.
  • the only time that the Winter Olympics took place two years after the previous one - Shouldn't it be ones.
  • The link to the article about the dissolution of the Soviet Union should be included the first time it's mentioned, not the second.
  • Norweigen - Norwegian?
  • Are there no more images that could be included?

That's what I saw, Hey man im josh. I've got a couple of nominations going on, in case you have time and fancy having a look at them. Kind regards, Alavense (talk) 07:13, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much for the review @Alavense!
  • 1,737 athletes - MOS:NUMNOTES: "Avoid beginning a sentence with a figure". – Blech, well this conflicts with feedback I received at the 2016 Summer Olympics medal table nomination. Not entirely sure which would be best, any thoughts on whether you're comfortable with the numbers at the beginning, or should I ping Gonzo to iron this out a bit more?
  • The MOS here isn't definitive. Avoiding something doesn't mean you can't do it. I think for a large number, there is no issue with starting the sentence with that number. That said, I will defer to whatever you all decide. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 15:16, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Due to scheduling changes made in 1986, with the intent to have the Summer Olympics and Winter Olympics held in different years, this was the first time the Winter games were held in a different year than the Summer Olympics - That reads a bit repetitive. – Do you have any recommendations on how to refactor to highlight that the Olympics were held in the same year prior to this? I wanted to make that clear and despite not totally loving the language, I felt this was the best I could come up with.
  • Due to scheduling changes made in 1986, with the intent to have the Summer Olympics and Winter Olympics held in different years, this was the first time the Winter games were held in a different year than the Summer Olympics, and the only time that the Winter Olympics took place two years after the previous one.
  • Due to scheduling changes made in 1986, with the intent to begin holding the Summer Olympics and Winter Olympics in different years for the first time and moving forward, the Winter Olympics took place only two years after the previous one.
  • Thanks for pushing me on the wording. I think this phrasing is closer to what's ideal, but could possibly use more work. Any thoughts on the changes? I feel it's more concise but maybe a bit choppy. The changes happened in 1986, but I also want to highlight this is the first time in a way as I feel the first Olympic Games not held in the same year as another is a noteworthy fact. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:13, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Due to scheduling changes made in 1986 with the intent to begin holding the Summer Olympics and Winter Olympics in different years for the first time and moving forward, this edition of the Winter Olympics took place only two years after the previous one.
Do you like it this way, Hey man im josh? I think you could do without the first comma. And the way you worded it now, it's pretty clear that these Games being held only was an odd one out. Alavense (talk) 13:53, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I like that. I've made the changes based on your suggestion @Alavense. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:00, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • the only time that the Winter Olympics took place two years after the previous one - Shouldn't it be ones. – Please do correct me if I'm wrong, but despite "Olympics" being plural, I believe it's still treated as singular when referring to the event, hence the usage of "one" instead of "ones". I do hope to be corrected, because honestly, I'm not sure now.
  • The link to the article about the dissolution of the Soviet Union should be included the first time it's mentioned, not the second. – Booo, you're right, I just really like that the wikilinked portion was exactly the title of the article. Oh well, you're right, fixed.
  • I removed the double [[.
  • Norweigen - Norwegian? – Fixed.
  • Are there no more images that could be included? – I looked for...
    • First medalist for each country mentioned in the league
    • First gold medalist for each country mentioned in the lead
    • Leaders in gold medals
    • Leaders in overall medals (used)
In those, there was an image of Manuela Di Centa, which appeared to be significantly after the age she competed at. Not that that's necessarily a problem, but I feel the size of the image (165 x 228 pixels / 67 KB) made it too small to add anywhere but her article. Others either did not have an image or their image was a stamp / memorialization of the person by the country. Because of this, I felt it best to just use the one image, though believe me, I absolutely did look for relevant images that weren't just "this person won a medal at the games!"
Thanks again for the review. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:15, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I replied above, Hey man im josh. Kind regards, Alavense (talk) 07:01, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Alright, so that should be everything except for the top two points now Alavense. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:13, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nice work, Hey man im josh. Please keep these lists coming! :) I'll support right away, although it would be nice to reach an agreement, so to speak, with Gonzo and see which one's the lesser of two evils, whether to use A total of or to ignore the MOS for once. Kind regards and nice work, Alavense (talk) 14:11, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Absolutely, I'm all for consistency and I totally agree. Thank you for the review, keep your awesome reviews coming @Alavense! Hey man im josh (talk) 14:15, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Dank

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  • Standard disclaimer: I don't know what I'm doing, and I mostly AGF on sourcing.
  • Checking the FLC criteria:
  • 1. Nothing is jumping out at me as a prose problem. I checked sorting on all sortable nonnumeric columns and sampled the links in the table.
  • 2. The lead meets WP:LEAD and defines the inclusion criteria.
  • 3a. The list has comprehensive items and annotations.
  • 3b. The sources appear to be reliable, and the UPSD tool isn't indicating any significant problems (but this isn't a source review). All relevant retrieval dates are present.
  • 3c. The list meets requirements as a stand-alone list, it isn't a content fork, and it doesn't largely duplicate another article (that I can find).
  • 4. It is navigable.
  • 5. It meets style requirements. At a glance, the images seem fine.
  • 6. It is stable.
  • Support. Well done. - Dank (push to talk) 14:49, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks so much for your review @Dank! I very much appreciate it! Hey man im josh (talk) 16:23, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Sure, anytime. - Dank (push to talk) 16:50, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Hey man im josh, check with PresN or Giants2008 regarding MOS:NUMNOTES (specifically, avoiding a numeral at the beginning of a sentence). I don't know if we handle these things differently at FLC, but if so, that would surprise me a little. - Dank (push to talk) 22:50, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by Matthewrb

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  • The short description for the article is currently "Award" - I might recommend none for this article since the title is descriptive.
  • I did a spot check of the medal totals and they look good.
  • I did a spot check of the sources and they look good.

Support ~ Matthewrb Talk to me · Changes I've made 15:58, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for taking a look over the list @Matthewrb, I've fixed the short description. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:24, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Promoting. --PresN 18:46, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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