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June 4

Template problem

Resolved

 – Problem solved.--RyRy5 (talk) 07:13, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Hello. If you look here, you should see that the templates are, well, mixed up with eachother. I can't seem to find the problem. I would like to format it like the barnstars and awards above the problem, but I can't see the problem. Please help. Thanks, RyRy5 (talk) 00:20, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

all fixed. you added an incomplete smile in one of the edits. --TheDJ (talk • contribs) 00:30, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. It sometimes gets confusing when you have so many barnstars and awards. :) --RyRy5 (talk) 00:36, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Twin Peak Towers - Wikipedia

I have tried to correct very misleading information about a new apartment building in Jakarta, i.e. Twin Peak Towers. Since the apartment is still actively marketed in Indonesia, it is very important to have the right information posted in wikipedia, otherwise wikipedia can misled potential buyers. For example, there is no bars, restaurants, night club, fleet of Bentley available at Peak and a lot of existing buyers argue about the quality of the buildings (no Italy marble etc). I tried to change the content, but someone named Wandering Canadians, a wikignome always change the page back. Ironically, Wandering Canadians has a motto 'Keeping People Honest'.

I assume that Wandering Canadians is just ignorant / not knowledable about the property in Jakarta/Indonesia, eventhough possible that he is connected to the owner of the property.

Please make wikipedia honest. I have changed the page back but sure Wondering Canadian will change it back. Please stop dishonesty at Wikipedia.

PS: BTW, I tried to contact Wandering Canadians directly but not successful. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.158.104.36 (talk) 01:14, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi there! Please don't insult other editors; remember to stay civil at all times! :) Also, remember to sign your posts with four tildes (~~~~).

Now, Wikipedia is not for advertising, so we should not be editing pages with potential buyers in mind. Coverage should pertain to notability only, and should not focus on meaningless aspects. Of course, if there is misleading information, you are welcome to correct it, but only if you can prove that the information is false (and, vice versa, that yours is correct) using reliable sources. Cheers, Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP! :)} 01:21, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Also please note that we are an encyclopedia, not a directory, listing of organizations, or a place to advertise. There is also a very strict policy about only putting in what can be found in reliable, third-party sources. Along with that, there is a guideline/policy which states that if you are editing Wikipedia to promote some non-Wikipedia entity's interests (including yourself or other Wikipedia editors), you have a conflict of interest with Wikipedia. Our goal is to build an encyclopedia. Please keep this in mind while editing. Other policy/guideline/how-to pages you may be interested in seeing are: the notability policy, how to write your first article, and the tutorial. Hope this helps... Calvin 1998 ^(t-c) 01:29, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

The reason why your updates to the article have been reverted is because they were (to quote from the The Peak Twin Towers article history): "... non-factual and incorrect additions, suspected vandalism" and "... not in accordance with Wikipedia standards or style", or they "... belongs on talk page". The usual practice when adding controversial material to articles, is to cite verifiable information from reliable sources. If other editors disagree with your edit, then perhaps you can raise the problem on the article's talk page and try to reach a consensus with the other editors. Continuing to add your unreferenced information is considered vandalism and will be quickly removed, and you may eventually be blocked from editing. If you wish to contact an individual editor, it is best to do so on their talk page (for example User talk:Wandering canadian), but please remember to remain civil at all times. Astronaut (talk) 03:29, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Janine Habeck

Resolved

 – Fixed

What's going on with the Janine Habeck article? According to this diff there is a newer edit but according to the article's history page, that IS the newest edit. Anyone? Dismas|^(talk) 03:24, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Wow that is weird, I just made a test edit to see if there was just a problem with the most recent edit, but now it says that my edit is the most recent, but that there is a newer edit. [1] Weird! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) @ 03:27, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

What the... that's an interesting bug, heh. It seems that it's doing that for multiple people, and not just you. Anyway, the bug has been reported to our techies; thanks for bringing it to our attention! :) Cheers, Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP! :)} 03:29, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Yay, they fixed it. Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP! :)} 03:37, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Good to know I wasn't seeing things!  :-) Dismas|^(talk) 05:08, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Huh? All I see is an error. Anyway, I see this all the time but probably unrelated to your particular case, my computer slows or something and can visit the next diff. Also the resolved template3 shows a green box on my computer. Thanks. ~AH1^(TCU) 21:20, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

copy picture

how can i copy a particular picture into a file or document. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.248.68.198 (talk) 10:03, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

This question rteally belongs in the Computer reference desk. Right click on ther picture and click 'save picture as...'.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchester_Academy_of_English

I am the Operations Manager at Manchester Academy of English.

We no longer need to publish about our company on Wikipedia and would like to delete it at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchester_Academy_of_English

Although I have tried to add Quick Deletion {QD}}, it doesn't seem to be working.

Any ideas, please? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.57.236.35 (talk) 11:41, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

You can't request deletion like that. The subject appears to be notable and therefore it is here to stay. You could try taking it to WP:AFD, but I don't think its deletion will be the outcome. Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 11:47, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

The Manchester Academy of English Wikipedia article does not exist to "publish about" your company, but is an encyclopedia article about a notable subject. Your earlier concerns about not wanting your "... rivals/competitors to make changes to the text to sabotage our reputation" would appear to be unfounded because the article has not been controversially edited since it was created by your "IT assistant". Astronaut (talk) 16:01, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia's Law of Unintended Consequences If you write in Wikipedia about yourself, your group, your company, or your pet idea, once the article is created, you have no right to control its content, and no right to delete it outside our normal channels. Content is not deleted just because somebody doesn't like it. Any editor may add material to or remove material from the article within the terms of our content policies. If there is anything publicly available on a topic that you would not want included in an article, it will probably find its way there eventually. More than one user has created an article only to find himself presented in a poor light long-term by other editors. If you engage in an edit war in attempt to obtain a version of your liking you may have your editing access removed, perhaps permanently. Therefore, don't create promotional or other articles lightly, especially on subjects you care about.

-- ShinmaWa^(talk) 23:19, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

how can i upload any picture in my article?

how can i upload any picture in my article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.182.118.50 (talk) 11:47, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Via Upload file on the toolbox on the left. But first, you must read Wikipedia:Image use policy. Thankyou, Lradrama 11:49, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Also note that you must be logged in before you can upload files. Thanks, PeterSymonds (talk) 11:54, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

If the image is free, such as something you created or took yourself that you will be releasing, please don't upload it here. Instead upload it to the Wikimedia Commons (a central media repository for all free media). By Creating an account there and then uploading, you allow use of the image here as well as on all other language Wikipedias and all of Wikimedia's sister projects. Also note that if you do not have an account here and you create one now to upload, you will have to wait four days and have 10 edits before you wil be able to do so, whereas you can upload immediately at the Commons, once registered. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:29, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Why were my posts deleted

Why were my posts deleted? —Preceding unsigned comment added by DelawareNC (talk • contribs) 13:21, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

I recently made two posts about Chefs Roland Henin and Rolf Baumann. They were up for awhile but now they have been taken down. Why would his have happened? What do I need to do to post them accurately and have them stay up? —Preceding unsigned comment added by DelawareNC (talk • contribs)

They were deleted as blatant copyright violations of http://www.delawarenorth.com/NewsRoom/pdf/home-plate-media-kit.pdf and http://www.delawarenorth.com/NewsRoom/pdf/RolfBaumann.pdf . We cannot accept copyright violations on Wikipedia, and such violations are deleted on sight. See WP:COPYVIO for more information. :-) Stwalkerster [ talk ] 15:25, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

TeeNAgerS~Manga/Anime

TeeNAgerS is a manga made by Tyler Atkinson and Eddward Hogan, this is the plot for it so far. Contact detals removed tell me what you think. ^__^ Please, I'd appreciate it.

removed text so that noone steals it :)Mr. Green^{Hit Me Up}Userboxes 16:40, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

This page is for help using Wikipedia. I would normally suggest you take your question to the entertainment reference desk, but I don't think they would offer a review of your amateur manga. I have removed your email address to protect your privacy - this page is highly visible across the internet, and adjusted the paragraph indents so it can be seen clearly.

I also hope you understand that by presenting your work here, you have released it under a GFDL license and as such it is likely to be copied, changed or published elsewhere without your permission. You might want to consider removing your work from this page. Astronaut (talk) 16:10, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Referencing

Resolved

 – Editor's issue has been resolved. --TN‑X-Man 22:01, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi,

I'm having problems adding references/external notes to articles. I've followed the instructions, but to no avail. I guess I'm doing something very minutely wrong, but I'm at a loss. I tried following the 'cite references' section on the Help Page. But like mentioned above, it didn't work! Could someone please give me a 1,2,3 track approach, or simplify it so a six year old can understand!!

Many thanks.

Theblako (talk) 18:08, 4 June 2008 (UTC).

Hi there. All you have to do is, after a fact, use <ref> URL here </ref>, and then add {{reflist}} to the bottom of the page. There are ways of formatting the references, notably {{cite web}}, but that's pretty advanced. Hope this helps! Juliancolton ^{Tropical Cyclone} 18:11, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

(edit conflict)*I looked at the article you were recently editing. You did everything exactly right, but forgot to add {{reflist}} to the reference section. That template causes the references to display. I've fixed it, so feel free to take a look! TN‑X-Man 18:14, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! I was thrown by the 'reflist'. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Theblako (talk • contribs) 12:46, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Why is the print so small on 'printable version'?

Resolved

Hi...

When I print out an article from the 'printable version' page, the text is minuscule and basically unreadable. My solution has been to cut and paste the text into a Word document and print it from there. But...a lot of the formatting gets lost.

Is there a way to print the 'printable version' with larger text?

I am on a PC with Windows XP and use Mozilla Firefox.

The printer is an HP Laserjet 4050N. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.122.183.11 (talk) 18:43, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you!

-todd —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.122.183.11 (talk) 18:39, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

What browser are you using? What printer? --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 18:42, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

On Firefox, select "Print Preview" under the "File" menu. At the top of the screen in the center, you'll see a "Scale" dropdown. Odds are this is set to a very small number. Select something at or closer to 100%. This should increase the font size in the printed copy to something closer to what you want. -- ShinmaWa^(talk) 20:04, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Beautiful. It was set to 'shrink to fit'. Now it's printing fine. Thank you very much, Shinmawa! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.122.183.11 (talk) 20:21, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

I suggest cut and paste, I think this is over now. StewieGriffin! • Talk 20:26, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Stub

Resolved

 – Already Done

How do I add the message at the bottom of Capital punishment in Liechtenstein that says that the article is a stub? JoeC 4321 (talk) 20:05, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Look at Capital punishment in Albania for an example. You should add the same categories as well. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 20:07, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Someone else has already added the stub message but thanks for your help anyway. JoeC 4321 (talk) 20:12, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

I have removed the uncategorised tag as the article is now categorised. – ukexpat (talk) 20:32, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Colour Background Codes?

I Have Seen On Some Pages Like Sandi Thom And Lily Allen etc. That When You See The Grids On Their Discography That They Have A Different Colours But When You Edit This Page It's In Codes But What Are Thease Codes? And How Do You Access What The Codes Are For Different Colours? samm 20:49, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

See web colors. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 21:03, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

The code that you see when editing pages it's called Wikitext, similar to HTML. You may found a guide on using Wikitext on How to edit a page. macy^talk 21:07, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

In Addition To The Wikipedia Article on Web Colors That Gadget850 Already Pointed Out, Here's Another Good Page For HTML Color Codes. -- ShinmaWa^(talk) 21:47, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

And see WP:COLOR and WP:EIW#Color. --Teratornis (talk) 04:02, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

How many...

How many times has man landed on the moon? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.76.74.118 (talk) 22:26, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Help Desk is used only for questions related to Wikipedia and it's projects. <3 Tinkleheimer TALK!! 22:29, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Please consult the Wikipedia:Reference desk and ask your question there. Thank you. -- RyRy5 (talk) 22:51, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

(e/c)To save time over at the RefDesk, the answer is six. Apollo 11, 12, 14, 15, 16, 17. Paragon12321 (talk) 22:54, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Some people claim to doubt that, but I sometimes doubt they can be serious. And by the way, I'm adding a spoiler alert on this message for anyone who hasn't seen Apollo 13 (film) yet, and who either wasn't around for the original event or who hasn't read much history. (Don't laugh; some people got upset when they heard the Titanic was going to sink.) --Teratornis (talk) 23:48, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, couldn't help it. I laughed. -- ShinmaWa^(talk) 06:23, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Colonial Tavern

How do I edit to correct an existing file? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kuro77chan (talk • contribs) 23:18, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Start with the editing tutorial, and make sure to read the five pillars of Wikipedia too. Happy editing! Tan | 39 23:20, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

It looks like your first edit wasn't too happy; another editor removed some of your material. That happens a lot on Wikipedia to new users. See Wikipedia:Reliable sources and Wikipedia:Verification to understand how this works. On Wikipedia, it's not what you know, but what you can cite. Everything we write has to come from reliable, published sources, and we have to cite our sources. This can be complicated for new users to understand, so ask us for help if you find the manuals confusing. --Teratornis (talk) 03:56, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Means?

What's the difference between

[[Category:Watersheds| ]]

and

[[Category:Watersheds]]

? Thanks.68.148.164.166 (talk) 23:24, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

It's to do with the way in which the pages in the category get sorted. The default position is that pages are sorted within categories alphabetically by page name - so, if you look at the contents of Category:Watersheds, Catchment comes before Drainage basin. This can be modified by using the "magic word" {{DEFAULTSORT}} to sort by something other than the alphabetical order of the article title (e.g. for biographies, {{DEFAULTSORT:Surname, Firstname}}. Another way is to use the pipe character "|", and then the character(s) after the pipe determine the sort order. Where, as in your example of [[Category:Watersheds| ]], a space is used, that puts the article before the letter "A", which is what has happened with Endorheic basin. Bencherlite^Talk 00:05, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

See WP:CAT#Sort order and Help:Magic words. --Teratornis (talk) 03:58, 5 June 2008 (UTC)