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March 12

Article Format

This is not a big deal (as far as I know), but what is causing two "[Edit]" links to appear side-by-side in Autun#Ecclesiastical history? Wanderer57 (talk) 02:37, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

I don't see a problem in Internet Explorer 7.0. This sounds like something depending on browser and window width, caused by a box and images overlapping section headings. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:41, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

For me it's 4 "Edit" at the end of the "Other notable connections" line. Firefox, 1600x1200 Chandlertalk 02:45, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

The edits from the first three sections are getting bumped down by the images. I see it too. Gtstricky^{Talk or C} 02:48, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

The problem has vanished. Thank you. Was that accomplished by moving the images around, or was some other trick involved? Wanderer57 (talk) 03:20, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

See also WP:BUNCH for the description and explanation of this common problem --TheDJ (talk • contribs) 14:35, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Move Tab is missing

I found an article about a person, but the person's name is misspelled. The Help page says that there is a Move tab at the top of the page which can be used to rename a page, but there is no Move tab at thetop of the page. I'm stuck. —Preceding unsigned comment added by RobertCarver (talk • contribs) 04:18, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

You can only move pages when your account is at least four days old, and then the move tab appears automatically at the top. If you say the names then we can evaluate the wanted move. PrimeHunter (talk) 05:11, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Mark A. Moore

I came across this article and wanting to know if I'm the only one that thinks it's way too long and includes alot of non-notable information? If it looks fine to others, then I won't mess with it. I came across the article while reading a "See also" section and it mentioned the article and next to it said "Bentonville Battle Maps." I don't know if it's self-promotion or a legitimate WP:BIO article that meets WP:NOTE. There's just so much stuff on the page. I guess my question is should some of the lists be reduced or removed? AgnosticPreachersKid (talk) 07:25, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

That looks like one hell of a vanity page. I agree, most of that article should be cut out, and the rest needs rewritten badly. It fails WP:BIO, as it's not about the person, but about his writing career. -- Kesh (talk) 10:47, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Ok, I nominated it for deletion. Thanks. AgnosticPreachersKid (talk) 10:57, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Part 145 Line Maintenance

Can I get a list of all European Part 145 Line Maintenance Organisations from within Wikipedia and if so where? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.133.242.73 (talk) 11:25, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

I don't think so but please see European Aviation Safety Agency.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:08, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

I need some one who operates bots on OS X

Resolved

 – resolved on the Bot owner's noticeboard

I use OS X Tiger and Im trying to run bots for the Telugu Wikipedia. I downloaded the python framework from this page. and I created the user-config.py file which reads

mylang='te'
family='wikipedia'
usernames['wikipedia']['te']=u'Sai2020'

Sai2020 is my username. I open Terminal and type in python login.py I get the error python: can't open file 'login.py'

Can someone help me please Σαι ( Talk) 12:06, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

You might be able to get a better response at the Bot owner's noticeboard - not everyone who comes by here operates a bot or would necessarily know what you're doing. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 12:10, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks I'll do that Σαι ( Talk) 12:18, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

what is out put of that prog. and why why??

void main() { int i=10,j=12; printf("%d,%d,%d,%d,%d,%d,%d,%d,%d,%d,%d,%d"); getch(); }

This is for asking questions about Wikipedia. You should ask computer questions on the computer section of WP:RD. However, this looks very much like homework. So, I strongly suggest compiling it and running it before asking someone else to do so. -- kainaw™ 13:06, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Linking articles

I added a name to the article on Sarod. I'dlike to know how I may link that name - the name odfa senior player to an article about him. It so happens that there exists a Wiki article which also has to be updated. How do I link them? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.226.77.33 (talk) 13:58, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

You can create a link by putting two square brackets around the word. For example, [[Example]] creates the following: Example. —P^urpleRA^IN 14:19, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

See more at Help:Link. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:26, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

MAPs

How to view my CITY or my HOUSE from WIKIPEDIA —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vineela1999 (talk • contribs) 14:34, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

You might be looking for Google Earth Gtstricky^{Talk or C} 14:45, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Featured Article

Are the Featured Articles closed for editing, meaning they've been protected against further editing or vandalism? How many Featured Articles are closed and protected against any future contribution? All, some or none of them? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.47.89.57 (talk) 16:01, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

I don't know for certain, but you can check through Category:Protected and Category:Semi-protected (and their sub-categories) for the article you're looking for. Protected pages will usually display a large ambox such as {{pp-protected}} or a small padlock icon in the corner. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 16:56, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Featured Articles are meant to represent the best that Wikipedia has to offer, and since one of the things Wikipedia offers is the ability to edit ... no they aren't "frozen" once they become featured. However, since people obviously put a lot of work in getting them to that state, edits may be more heavily scrutinised in order to make sure that it stays at a featured level. In particular, they should only be protected if there is an actual reason to do so, such as vandalism from multiple accounts. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 22:09, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

I know that Association football is semi-protected as are some the WP:FOOTY FAs but this is only because they are vandalised incredibly regularly when unprotected. As an FA editor, I find it quite helpful when FAs are improved, though by their nature, usually there isn't that much to be done to them. If you want to see the version that was featured go to the talk page of the article and click the date in the {{Articlehistory}} template. As far as I know there are no fully protected FAs as that would be a grounds for removal per the featured article criteria (stability). Woody (talk) 22:39, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

vandalism?

It looks like this page has been vandalized.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buganda

There are at least fifty eight recognised for being orgasmic clans within the queer monger circle of the Kingdom of Buganda,... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.153.36.171 (talk) 16:07, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Fixed. Thanks for bring this to our attention. In future, you may want to try fixing vandalism yourself. Bovlb (talk) 16:48, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

removing a link

Hi there is a page on wikipedia that links to my website. How can I get this link removed? thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by De la fere (talk • contribs) 16:11, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Could you be more specific, please? What is the page, and what is the website? Bovlb (talk) 16:49, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

I was wondering if there was a standard format for doing this? do I need to report it officially, giving all names etc and does wikipedia then deal with it? or can I just do it myself without any fuss? —Preceding unsigned comment added by De la fere (talk • contribs) 17:56, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

There is no official reporting. You can do it yourself. But if it is an appropriate link, someone could put it back in. Having a link to your site doesn't require your approval. —teb728 t c 18:39, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

And you have a conflict of interest regarding links to your site so it's recommended to make a suggestion on the talk page instead, by clicking the "discussion" tab. See also Wikipedia:Contact us/Article problem. But having a link to your site against your will is not by itself considered a problem by Wikipedia. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:45, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

NYSE

I was previously looking for information about rich stocks within the NYSE. I found this article that had a list that had all the companies that take in over $100 mill. or $100 bill. in revenue. I forget what the title of the article was and now I can't find it at all. Des anyone happen to know what I'm talking about? ~ Bella Swan 16:17, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Perhaps List of companies by revenue? Bovlb (talk) 16:52, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

If that's not what you're looking for, the reference desk might be able to help you. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 16:52, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

That was the article I was looking for, thanks so much! :) ~ Bella Swan 20:39, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Check also, if it can be of any interest to you, Forbes Global 2000 and Forbes 500 (the latter has been discontinued and its last edition is of 2003). Snowolf ^{How can I help?} 22:52, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

I applaud what you are doing about not removing the pictures

I wanted to write and applaud you for what you are doing about NOT removing the pictures about Mohammud. I am glad that someone, even in this small way, is making a stand against people that are trying to censor a tool that can and should be used by anyone. If I find something offensive, I don't watch it, don't read it, or have anything to do with it. I don't start a petition to get it removed. Someone needed to stand up to bullies and I stand next to you, even metaphorically on this. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.235.207.216 (talk) 16:53, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

We at Wikipedia appreciate your kind comments. ::Manors:: talk to me 18:15, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Karen R. Hitchcock - Somebody keeps reverting the article

Resolved

Hi, I have edited the Karen R. Hitchcock Wikipedia entry, specifically the At Queen's section. Somebody keeps undoing my edits. I believe I have referenced the information. The source is credible (the established school newspaper). It is frustrating to keep undoing this person's edits, especially since he or she is not a registered user, just an ip address. Help? —Preceding unsigned comment added by White sheik (talk • contribs) 13:55, 12 March 2008

I would drop a message on the talk page of the anon user asking why it's being reverted. It is likely that the user is undoing the edit, not because of the content per se, but how it sounds, or perhaps the formatting for the WP:CITE is improper. Instead of fixing, sometimes editors just revert. Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 17:56, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

peristent anon vandal

Resolved

There is an anonymous user who is persistently, sometimes several times a day for the last month, inserting bogus, (or at least highly speculative and unsourced) information in this page: List_of_Primeval_episodes

His IP changes, but is always in 79.215.* (t-dialin.net, Germany). His changes are always reverted, but there is collateral damage, real corrections are often also reverted in the process. I wrote comments in the source page to try to engage him on the Discussion page, but now he's vandalising that too. Barsoomian (talk) 18:00, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Bear in mind that the addition of unsourced content isn't necessarily vandalism. However, blatant hoaxes and misinformation is. In this case, I would warn the user about the addition of unsourced material without the proper citations. If it continues relentlessly, you can start a report for WP:3RR or WP:AIV. The latter only if it can be seen that the anon is adding deliberate misinformation to disrupt the integrity/quality of the article. Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 18:02, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Name mispelled

Resolved

I just recently viewed a page created for my grandfather-John H. Shaffer, the page has his name spelled John H. Schaffer- he passed away about 11 years ago and the mispelling of his name bothers me. Please correct it- Ive tried to edit the page with no success. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnshaffer3 (talk • contribs) 18:26, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

I have moved the article so John H. Schaffer now redirects to John H. Shaffer. Accounts must be at least 4 days old to move (same as rename) articles. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:32, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Problem with Text Header

Resolved

Could anyone help me out here, I'm wanting this coding to replace the standard header on my userpage & subpages, it did work at first but for some reason the normal header text like Wikipedia:Help desk has re-appeared and I'm wanting it replacing with this coding below permanently on Terra's Userpage Template & Terra's Global-Borders, any help will be appreciated Terra ^{What do you want?} 19:23, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

<center> <div style="font-family: Castellar, sans-serif; font-size: larger; text-align: center;"> <div style="position: relative; border: 1px solid purple; border-width: 0px 0px 0px 0px; background: purple;" class="boilerplate metadata plainlinks"></div></div><div id="title-override" class="topicon" style="font-family: Castellar, sans-serif; float: left; position: absolute; left: 0; top: 0px; width: 98%; padding-top: 5px; display:none"><div style="background: {{#ifeq:{{PAGENAME}}|{{FULLPAGENAME}}|white|#F8FCFF}}; font-size: 188%; padding-top: 0.5em; padding-bottom: 0.1em; position:relative; left:0.5em; margin-top:-0.2em;">Terra</div></div> </div></div>

It seems to be working now. Terra ^{What do you want?} 19:28, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Is there a better way to deal with on going vandalism?

Resolved

This is relate to article Gene Green in specific, but relates to many other articles as well. This article is vandalized on a daily basis by various IP users that keep reinserting the same unreferenced information see [1] Unreferenced and unsupported statements such as "in 2008, (name of individual removed) was accused of receiving payoffs from .... just can not be allowed. Yet under current policy there appears to be nothing that can be done other than keeping the page on one's watch list and keep reverting the same edit over and over again. The major problem with that is the fact that the negative information ends up being posted for far too many hours. The page can not be semi protected due to the fact that the valdalism happens only 1-3 times a day. We did get one IP address blocked for 72 hours, but the result was the edits now come for different IP addresses making blocking useless. Note a request for page protection was made previously and the result was the block mentioned above. Having this type of negative information on Wikipedia regarding a current elected official keep showing up just is unacceptable.

So to repeat the question, is there anything that can be done to limit or stop this type of vandalism? Dbiel ^(Talk) 19:37, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

I have protected the page for two weeks now, given that it relates to WP:BLP and given the fact that the IP has started to shift. Woody (talk) 19:42, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

The St. Patrick page

In the St. Patrick page there is an inappropriate comment in the introduction that shouldn't be there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.113.73.72 (talk) 23:25, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Saint Patrick was vandalized and reverted a few hours ago. If you still see an inappropriate comment then try to bypass your cache. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:32, 12 March 2008 (UTC)