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November 16

what's wrong with banners?

Mr. Wales, I totally agree with Sally (below). I am unfortunately recently unemployed, and I swear to G*D I'd give you 5 or 10 bucks to help if I had an extra 5 or 10 bucks. Realistically though, how does operating for profit hurt? As a 501 c3 alumni chapter guy, i see the benefits, but you guys are a global staple. I love what you do and I love the 95 people you hired, but if you could somehow place banners on your site and hire another 95 peeps, I promise I'll love you more. Either way, thank you for everything, keep up the amazing work, and I will give you guys $5 when I get my first unemployment check next week. Klyde Langster — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.63.107.253 (talk) 10:09, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

Dear Jimmy Wales-

Wiki is a great resource, and I think you would be sabotaging yourself by not reaching out to advertisers of your choosing. You have a choice-if anything I would say, just don't allow automatic sound and constant replay as that would interfere with the users experience. Many of us discover new products, movies, information on Wiki as well as through advertising, so instead of looking at this as the enemy, perhaps its time to embrace banner ads.

I make my living in advertising. Specifically web advertising. Maybe it's time you look into it. There's nothing evil about having advertising on your site. In fact, the suggestion that it is, is slightly disturbing and offensive to those of us in the advertising arena.

Sincerely- Sally-LA, Ca — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.174.49.33 (talk) 00:31, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Jimbo has recently said, Commerce is fine. Advertising is not evil. But it doesn't belong here. - and the majority of Wikipedians agree; not all, but most. See "Fundraising vs ads" and [1].

But also, please note, Mr. Wales is unlikely to read your message here. You could contact him via User talk:Jimbo Wales.  Chzz  ►  01:17, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Note also that Jimbo is a libertarian, and has his own opinions. Some Wikipedians, on the other hand, consider advertising a despicable and contemptible part of modern life, and a disgraceful way to make a living. It takes all kinds to make a world. --Orange Mike | Talk 14:10, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Yep, fair point; I only meant to say that, most Wikipedians agree <with Jimbo> that we shouldn't have ads - for whatever reasons; I didn't mean to imply that most Wikipedians agreed with Jimbo's reasoning, or everything said.  Chzz  ►  15:18, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Editing Wikipedia:Help desk (new section)

I stand accused of making "bad requests" and now I am being threatened with a ban without further notice by "Calabe1992". How does this make any sense? Please remove the page immediately. Is this the right place to ask, or please point me to the right person to make a formal request. - S. Giunta — Preceding unsigned comment added by S.giunta (talk • contribs) 01:01, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Please don't keep blanking the article Salvatore Giunta. If you think there is a problem with that article, please explain why, on Talk:Salvatore Giunta. Thanks,  Chzz  ►  01:10, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

If you are the subject or represent him then see Wikipedia:Contact us/Article problem/Factual error (from subject). PrimeHunter (talk) 01:56, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

The article, when unblanked, notes that the real Giunta has been offended by the attention he's received; if User:S.giunta is the real Giunta, that's likely his motivation. Nyttend (talk) 02:51, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Such motivation aside, there is nothing wrong with the article and in view of the subject's notability I very much doubt that any request from him for the article to be deleted will succeed. – ukexpat (talk) 14:56, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

How much money does it take to get Jimbo's face off of the internet forever?

How much to get him to leave us alone entirely? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.5.152.237 (talk) 01:05, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Three quid a month, from each of us.[2]

Alternatively, see WP:VPM#How to hide all fundraising banners on all Wikimedia wikis until next year  Chzz  ►  01:10, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

foot notes

How do I use the same source more than once with out creating a new foot note? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shanfie (talk • contribs) 01:37, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

The instructions are here, WP:NAMEDREFERENCES. GB fan 01:39, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

User page and watch list and more

What is the limit of space data information for your user page is there a max. i could not find the answer at User page. They say your watch list cannot exceed 9000 something words list of articles. But rumors said u can go way beyond that limit. whats the limit has wikipedia uploaded there max holding data for watch list capacity. Can i put certain name articles to my user page that relate to a certain topic like Orders of magnitude (energy) i will list a lot of diverse energy topics of there amount of energy and mass release plus there attributes relating to the elements of the universe is this ok. And can i add to my user page a list of ways to die by nature catastrophic events and artificial doomesday devices that can be dangerous hazardous, it will not vandalize and will relate to wikipedia articles. I tried to ask to put it on a wikipedia article but it doesn't meet there standards so can i put it on my user page. Is there a way u can read other peoples watch list or special archives of certain topics. Is there a option list where u can allow someone to edit your user page to allow them to add ideas. How do u qualify to be a certain rank like administrator, Do they ask or hire u. How can u request to control a certain article or be allowed to edit it. If u create a article do u have any higher rights ranking power over it. Shawn laser lightning plasma (talk) 03:16, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

That's a lot of questions. Some of them are answered here: Wikipedia:User pages#Excessive unrelated content, Help:Watching pages#Size limitation, Help:Watching pages#Privacy of watchlists, Wikipedia:Ownership of articles, Template:Edit protected, Wikipedia:Requests for adminship. All non-deleted pages are visible to everybody, and everybody can edit any user page which isn't protected. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:53, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

thanks prime hunter, on your watch list would the raw watch list be deleted too with the watch list if there's to many word articles, raw list downloads a lot faster, maybe if i paste it on user page that will save it and than re paste if the old watch list get deleted due to too many word articles, sorry a lot of questions one day i will return the favor by helping u guys help others. Shawn laser lightning plasma (talk) 05:31, 16 November 2011 (UTC) They should divide the watch list into seperate pages like a-m n-z so it doesn't over load and delete your watch list articles saves. i plan to go over 9,800 because it helps me with adding editing future articles like list of solar energy topics, by having all the solar related energy word topics on my watch list or raw list it would be faster to add to the list of solar energy topics. Shawn laser lightning plasma (talk) 05:55, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

• Max page size - any page larger than about 400 KB might not work on older browsers. You can also run into problems if there are too many templates on a page. Pages without templates, up to about 1Mb, should work OK on a modern system; beyond that, it's all getting a bit silly.
• Watchlists with over 9000(ish) can cause problems. A solution is to put links on a page, and use "Special:Recentchangeslinked".
• Wikipedia itself (servers) have, for all intents and purposes, unlimited capacity.
• Listing links to thousand of articles (and with other info) on userspace pages is fine; no problem at all.
• You should not add article-categories (like Category:Living people, Category:Fruit, or whatever) to userspace pages.
• You cannot read other people's watchlist; it is private data.
• Anyone can edit any page (including your userspace pages), unless they are protected (which is occasionally necessary, to prevent vandalism). Admins can edit protected pages, and will help with requests to change them.
• Admins are chosen through discussion/consensus at WP:RFA; they can be nominated by others, or self-nominated. They must demonstrate extensive experience - typically thousands of good edits over more than a year. Nobody is hired; nobody is paid to edit.
• You do not have any more right to edit an aritcle, even if you created it. (WP:OWN).

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• Whether you edit the raw watchlist or not, makes no difference. Really, try the 'Recentchangeslinked' idea insead; list the articles you are interested in on one userspace page, and use 'What Links Here'. Then you can split it up in whatever way you want (on separate pages).  Chzz  ►  06:50, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

thanks chzz a little confused on the template max page, does it mean the limit for wikipedia article word space memory in a article. If my watch list gets deleted due to to much memory over load space can i go back a page to make it comeback re due it like, and will my raw watch list be deleted too, i figure raw list loads faster so it maybe holds more word articles info. And that cluebot said i possibly vandalized plasma physics, but i only added a plasma word to the plasma source, it fitted the category no one deleted it yet. Does that rune your rep even if u never did anything to vandalize. Sorry no more easy same questions i will try my best to look it up without relying on u pro's i appreciate it. Shawn laser lightning plasma (talk) 07:39, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Making mistakes as you learn is not going to "rune your rep", what is going to eventually "rune" it is not being able or willing to put two sentences together in proper English. I don't mean this as an insult or anything, but if you intend on being a serious editor (and we're not even talking about adminship yet), you're going to have to put a lot more effort in your writing, regardless of skill and ability. Suggestion: you could start with the proper capitalization of 'I' and the correct spelling of 'you'. Best regards, CharlieEchoTango (talk) 08:06, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

If you are concerned about losing your watchlist, you can click "Edit raw watchlist" and then copy everything out to an ordinary text file as a backup. But my watchlist has crept up to 2,500 pages and I'm not seeing any problems with it yet. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:18, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

I laugh at your puny watchlist, mortal. Tremble and bow down before my mighty watchlist of...wait for it...16,632 pages. I have no problems. If I do, I'll get rid of the 8,000 or so redlinks.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 13:18, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

I will stomp the yard stampede all over your watch list in due time, about two weeks now on wiki i just surpassed 3000 like spartans with no red list.Hopefully by the end of month i will have 10000 pristine laser plasma energy sources related universal articles on physics. I mostly read raw watchlist it loads faster. Copy and paste your watch list on your user page let me see your passion interest. Where could I copy peoples watch list.Bring it on and beware of my future king kong grand finale watch list of all time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shawn laser lightning plasma (talk • contribs) 03:15, 18 November 2011 (UTC) Shawn laser lightning plasma (talk) 03:16, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Finding top-importance stubs?

I'm interested in finding the articles on wikipedia that are considered high importance but stub quality. Wikipedia:Version_1.0_Editorial_Team/Index uses a bot that tracks the count of such pages. But does it create a list of them? And where can I find it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Drkarger (talk • contribs) 03:22, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

I don't know if there's a list anywhere, but you may be able to compile a list yourself using the CatScan tool. You'll need to intersect Category:High-importance articles (and its subcategories) with Category:Stub categories (and its subcategories). If you can't get it to work, post back here. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:57, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

On many WikiProject pages you will find a table (see, for example, Wikipedia:WikiProject United States#Project statistics) showing columns for importance, and rows for class; at the intersections the totals are clickable. Clicking one of these should take you to a tool which lists the articles of that particular importance/class combination. The totals in the table are typically updated at intervals from 24 hours to one month, so the list of articles that you reach by clicking might not tally with the total. --Redrose64 (talk) 15:33, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Aligning userboxes with text

How would I go about doing this? I checked some user pages for clues but can't find a way to do this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hg3300 (talk • contribs) 05:01, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Depending on what you have in mind, using tables might work for you. Dismas|^(talk) 05:59, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Well, I was thinking about putting userboxes down the left side of my profile. I've done this before, but the text ends up below it. Basically, all I'm looking to do is align the userboxes on the left with the text next to it. If this is possible with tables (and still looks decent) I'm all for it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.71.40.38 (talk) 06:26, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

If you're okay with trying out the code yourself to see what you like, check out Help:Table for some instructions. Dismas|^(talk) 08:07, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

I'm still having a problem here. The table will cause the body of text inserted in the code after it to display below. I want the text to display RIGHT NEXT TO the table. Is there any way to do this? See my user page to see what I'm talking about. Hg3300 (talk) 17:37, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

There's a help section here: Wikipedia:User page design center. Maybe ask there? I'm sorry, I'm not that great with tables. Dismas|^(talk) 17:58, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

 Done - is this what you wanted? CharlieEchoTango (talk) 18:28, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Charlie! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hg3300 (talk • contribs) 18:31, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

You're most welcome (and please sign your posts, I left a second reminder on your talk page). Cheers! CharlieEchoTango (talk) 18:34, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

I know, it used to be no problem for me, but recently asking these questions I kept forgetting. Then when I went back to sign, SineBot got there before I could enter the four tildes. I will try to remember to do that once again. Hg3300 (talk) 18:36, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Rotated image

File:Steve Hughes 1.jpg appears correctly when you view the image directly, but appears rotated in Steve Hughes. Does anyone know how to fix this? Thanks. DH85868993 (talk) 05:46, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

See this discussion. Dismas|^(talk) 05:54, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

I don't think it's the ssame issue. The file itself is the 'right way around'; it's just the thumbnails that are showing it incorrectly. I've re-uploaded it, and tried a few things; I also asked tech but no response yet. It may sort itself out, in time; I'm not sure at the moment.  Chzz  ►  07:23, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

I've discovered it's because the metadata in the file was messed up - probably when the image was rotated, previously. Thus, any thumbnailed version is rotated, but when displaying the full picture, it is not.

I have fixed it by opening the file, re-saving it, and uploading the new version as File:Steve Hughes.jpg.

Because that process may have lost other information, I've not over-ridden the original. But I will change the article to this repaired copy.  Chzz  ►  08:50, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, Chzz. DH85868993 (talk) 21:45, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Kimiko Zakreski

I just wanted to update you on information about Kimiko Zakreski. Since her last update she is living in Halifax, NS and Married Scott Willgress on October 15 2011. My mobile phone does not have the symbol so I'll sign with this ----- thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.171.231.80 (talk) 06:44, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

If you know of a reliably published article in a newspaper or a book with these updates, please post a link here. All information must be verifiable.-- Obsidi♠n Soul 07:08, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

fiery fingers

In the book "A Dance With Dragons" in one of the Tyrion subsections, specifically location11909 on my kindle app eversion of the book, they repeatedly refer to "fiery fingers," My guess is matches? But its not in the dictionary and wikepedia has nothing that fits the context. There are several other paragraphs wen u search for the phrase but nothing that resembles m looking for. Please review and add the appropriate contextual info for the phrase on ur site; i rely on Wikepedia several times a day. Thank you very much. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.252.161.86 (talk) 07:55, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

It appears to be a colloquialism GRRM uses to describe the high priest, Moqorro's men in the fantasy universe of the book. As seen here, after a first use of the phrase he refers to some power of the high priest (who appear to be a devotee of the "lord of light"), to exercise his "fiery hand." Hard to tell without reading the larger book for context if it's a specific magic he possesses or whether it's metaphorical. In any event, I can't think of any context where Wikipedia would reflect this information except possibly in a plot description for the book in an article on it, but even there it would only be described if it was an important enough feature of the plot to require explanation, which I doubt it is.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:56, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Capitalization of preposition "o'".

Hi everybody! in Megadeth "Skin o' My Teeth", should be the preposition "o'" capitalized? thanks a lot, gio. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.40.124.92 (talk) 09:02, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

This page is for questions on how to use Wikipedia, try asking at Wikipedia:Reference desk/Language CTJF83 13:15, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

The short, simple answer is that in Wikipedia (according to MOS:CT) the preposition of should not be capitalized in titles of works, so the contracted o′ should also not be capitalized. I'm off to correct it in the text of our article. Deor (talk) 14:57, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia founder Jimmy Wales appeal

Sir / Madam

I read the personal appeal of the Great Mr. Jimmy Wales for a petty contribution from we people, who frequently refer to 'wikipedia'. I tried to contribute a monthly subscription( may be a meager amount), but I received an error message, displaying " The contributions are not received in Indian rupees"

How to proceed further? Can you please guide ?

Thanking You

HARI BASKAR — Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.202.7.67 (talk) 14:43, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

This page has an email address listed on the right side in the big green box. If you send an email to that address, someone will contact you and help you through the donation process. --Jayron32 14:51, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

HELP: article seems to have been truncated!

I can't imagine what happened! I began editing the Marc-Antoine Charpentier article to provide the footnotes that Wikipedia was requesting. Everything went very well and I viewed and saved... =the footnotes were all visible in a new section called REFERENCES= and then suddenly the rest of the article disappeared! I can't figure out how to get it back.

And I can't do too much checking in your Help and FAQ because I've just had 2 cataract surgeries and reading is a bit difficult -- hence my decision to use this inactive moment to add footnotes.

I hope you can put things back so that the entire long article survives intact and can be footnoted!

Patricia Ranum - Ranumspa — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ranumspa (talk • contribs) 15:00, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

You forgot to "close" the reference by adding the </ref> tag at the end. Someone else fixed the problem here: [3]. If this happens again, look for that. Its a common mistake. --Jayron32 15:05, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

(edit conflict) yep!

You had a <ref> with no closing </ref>.

I have fixed it, here.  Chzz  ►  15:08, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Thank you, all! So it was the lack of a closing code that caught me in that "half" world. That's what happens when one doesn't have time to contribute to Wikipedia routinely and forgets good habits, and I know it's a pain for regulars. There doubtlessly are tids and bits to fix in the references I added. I certainly can add more if they seem advisable. Just let me know and I'll oblige: every sentence in the Charpentier article can be footnoted if so desired. Patricia M. Ranum (talk) 16:37, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

new email Addy.

Hello..I can no longer "log in" because I don't know how to update my new email address, can you help? My handle is "Ritty"..I have no way to retrieve my email Addy that is on file with Wiki.. Therefore you can email me , but I will not receive your email....My handle is still "Ritty",....Is there a way we can update my email in Wiki? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.48.73.93 (talk) 15:16, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

The only way to change an email address linked to a Wikipedia account is to log in; if you have forgotten your password to an account, it can be emailed to you. If, however, you either a) never set up an email for Wikipedia to contact or b) no longer have access to that email account, you're basically stuffed, and there is no way to recover the old Wikipedia account. You'll have to register a new account. --Jayron32 15:39, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Or since Special:Contributions/Ritty has no contributions since 2006, you may be able to WP:USURP the account. —teb728 t c 20:47, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Original contribution

How do I learn who posted the original contribution for an article?

Apologies if I've asked this before, I;m not very good at navigating the threads

pete — Preceding unsigned comment added by Peterlemer (talk • contribs) 15:47, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Does Help:Page history help? – ukexpat (talk) 15:49, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

My user page is doing something weird D:

Ok so I get one of those "new messages" things at the top of my page. I click it, and find that I have a welcome message from Wikicommons (i think) on my talk page. But.. the stuff I wrote on my own talk page were gone!! And my User Page was a dead link! It said I had to create it! (which I already did). I then check my contributions list to see if that was affect, and all my contributions were gone, except for my most latest one. I reopen wikipedia and my userpage is back, and my talk page is normal again, without the welcome. But my contributions list is also back to normal but doesn't list my last edit.

Soo....... WHAT HAPPENED!!! ~Akiatu~ (talk) 16:23, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

My guess is that you got logged out for some reason, and were seeing the user talk page and contribution list for your underlying IP address. When you "reopened Wikipedia" did you have to log in? -- John of Reading (talk) 16:30, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

That, or he discovered Commons for the first time. @ Akiatu : Wikipedia and Wikimedia Commons are part of the same family of sites but are not the same site; though your login is universal, your contributions and pages on one won't be on the other, that's why you didn't have a page on Commons and you couldn't see your Wikipedia contributions there. I hope this helps. CharlieEchoTango (talk) 16:47, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Yes, that's much more likely. Akiatu, your Wikimedia Commons talk page is here - is that the page you saw earlier? -- John of Reading (talk) 17:04, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Yes :D danke :) ~Akiatu~ (talk) 01:42, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

Image citation question

In Hurricane Cindy (1959), citation 26, which is located here, is an image (on Commons here). Since I couldn't think of anything to call the file, I simply named the ref "Hurricane Cindy rainfall graphic". Is there a better/correct title I could use for it? Thanks. HurricaneFan25 17:57, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Rainfall map, perhaps? Otherwise it looks good to me, the important thing is that the author, date and publisher is mentioned. The title, meh. Amazing work by the way, keep it up! CharlieEchoTango (talk) 19:24, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Header

This might be a non-Wiki ? but has anyone gone to edit their article page and the Open With/Save File thing pops up? It won't let me edit my stuff! Thanks in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CAWylie (talk • contribs) 19:55, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

To clarify: Is this on Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Hell On Wheels (episode)? You are trying to click the "Edit" link at the top of the page?

Does your browser display the URL that you are about to jump to? It should be http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Hell_On_Wheels_%28episode%29&action=edit. It is says anything else you may be afflicted with malware. Does this direct link work? -- John of Reading (talk) 20:25, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Search for edits by ip subnet

Hi Guys,

So I can search for edits from a particular ip address, but is it possible to search for edits from a particular subnet? so, for example, could I search for all edits made by Ip's from 194.8.74.* rather than searching for an IP address individually?

Thanks,

Failedwizard (talk) 20:09, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Yes, this is possible. You have to have Javascript turned on, and you have to tick a box in "My Preferences" - on the "Gadgets" tab, second checkbox from the bottom. -- John of Reading (talk) 20:15, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

You're a star :) Failedwizard (talk) 20:50, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Mobile version on desktop

I'm building a web application and I'd like to have en.m.wikipedia.org in an iframe for the user to look up information with.

Unfortunately, if a desktop user performs a search in the iframe, they are redirected to the desktop version. Is there any way to prevent this redirect?

How to recreate:

1 ) Open en.m.wikipedia.org on a desktop

2 ) Search for something

3 ) Notice redirect to desktop version — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.204.138.7 (talk) 20:23, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

If you don't get an answer here, I suggest you ask at Village pump (technical). -- John of Reading (talk) 08:19, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

Peculiar layout problem

Could someone check out Languages of Finland. I can't seem to figure out what messes up the layout. --hydrox (talk) 20:26, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Well, for one, there are far too many images for such a short article. Dismas|^(talk) 20:51, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Agreed. I took one rather redundant one away, but it's still messed up. Shouldn't happen AFAIK. --hydrox (talk) 21:02, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

IMO, there are still too many images/boxes crammed in there (and I'm viewing it on my laptop, which has a high resolution - I'd hate to see what it looks like on smaller monitors). Could you split the article up into multiple articles, or move some of the data and/or images to other articles? Hohenloh ⁺ 21:15, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Better yet, expand the article. :) CharlieEchoTango (talk) 21:20, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

I think that's the way to go. Irrespective of the length of the article, the layout is messed up, which is a technical bug in the renderer. --hydrox (talk) 03:21, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

Okay, I got it fixed. It's some crazy HTML layout issue of cluttering both right and left float with too many images and too little text. Thanks for you all, hydrox (talk) 04:04, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

Geo coordinates

How does one redirect coordinates that are not inside the box or templete but directly in the article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ncsr11 (talk • contribs) 20:41, 16 November 2011‎

I'm not sure what you mean. Do you have a specific article in mind? -- John of Reading (talk) 21:33, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Splitting an article

It has been suggested splitting the article Foggy Dew into three, as it consists of three different songs. This makes sense, as the songs are all different, and I don't think anyone opposes this move. So is it OK to simply cut and paste each of the songs into new articles and rename the current article as a DAB page? I seem to remember reading somewhere that is NOT sufficient to simply cut and paste the information into new pages like this, for copyright reasons. Hohenloh ⁺ 21:09, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

See the procedure at WP:Splitting#Procedure, you will need to add an appropriate edit summary and use {{Copied}} on the talk page. Cheers, CharlieEchoTango (talk) 21:12, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Rating a page

Hi, just a quick question regarding the 'rating's 'given too a specific page, article, etc. My question has to do with the words offered for choice in rating a page, all of these words are of a 'positive' nature (so too speak, I will use the proper language of the discipline, 'English', if preferred but simple grammer would keep us busy for an extended period of time. So to say this in as short a time as possible is the preferred way to go for all concerned). How can one rate a page honestly without the tools to do so correctly and with as fair an eye and ear as one can. Having no negatives (again,so too speak, one is unable to rate anything with any degree of truthfulness or mere fairness. Just a thought, thank you for your time and patience with this email, thank's again, 70.66.69.89 (talk) 21:18, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

They're criteria, not the actual ratings. When you hover your mouse over the stars it will give you a better idea of what the ratings are. For example, in the "Well-Written" criterion, the stars go from "Incomprehensible" (1 star), "Difficult to Understand (2 stars), "Adequate Clarity" (3 stars), "Good Clarity" (4 stars), and "Exceptional Clarity" (5 stars). Similarly, the 1-star ratings for the criteria "Trustworthy", "Objective", and "Complete" are "Lacks reputable sources", "Heavily biased", and "Missing most information", respectively. Those are definitely not positive.-- Obsidi♠n Soul 21:34, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Can we PLEASE get Jimmy Wales' picture off of EVERY PAGE?

I understand the need to fund-raise, but do we need his tiresome photos on every last page? Smacks of severe egomania, if you asked me.

Thanks! :D — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.64.147.248 (talk) 21:43, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

No. You can create an account and set your preferences not to show the fundraising banner, or you can go here and click submit, and it should set your cookies to remove the banner for a while. CharlieEchoTango (talk) 21:47, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Is there a way to block Jimmy Wales' pictures without blocking banners? Normally I block unwanted images with Adblock Plus, but for some reason (perhaps unintentional as a result of a script on wikipedia that changes the photo after each reload) it does not work here. Hurdsean (talk) 08:06, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Using magazines as a source

Hey guys, I couldn't find my old question so I wanted to re-ask. I have lots of PlayStation and Retro Gamer magazines as I collect PlayStation related things. I wanted to use the information in these books to help expand some of the articles on Wikipedia on games that don't have an awful lot of information. One for example is Alien Trilogy, I have a lot of information I'd like to add about that but I'm not sure how to cite a magazine as a source. If someone could give me some information, I would be more than appreciative, help a newbie out? Many thanks guys! — Preceding unsigned comment added by PlayStationConnoisseur (talk • contribs) 22:07, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

The template Cite Journal is also use for magazines. See Template:Cite journal for examples.Naraht (talk) 22:10, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Your previous question was archived here. -- John of Reading (talk) 22:12, 16 November 2011 (UTC)