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December 14

Infobox information

Hi, are there guidelines on what information should not be added to the part subsection of the military conflict infobox? --Rskp (talk) 00:37, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

Does the documentation at Template:Infobox military conflict help? If not, please ask at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Military history.--ukexpat (talk) 01:47, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

Yes, thanks a lot. Much appreciated. --Rskp (talk) 00:26, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

After reading the guidelines, I raised the question on the WikiProject Military history talk page here [1], but the reaction has been extraordinary. --Rskp (talk) 01:21, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

New Webcast Links For Three Northern New Hampshire Radio Stations: WLTN-FM, WLTN-AM, & WXXS-FM

WLTN-FM, WLTN-AM, & WXXS-FM all now simulcast their audio online; although, neither of these Great North Woods Region (New Hampshire) Radio Stations have any active websites. I just wanted to give you some head's up about this, so that you'd know why I've added MPEG Audio links to those three articles. If there's any desire to do so, the Wikipedia article could state in each of these three articles that the station is simulcasting its audio online but doesn't have any apparent websites. To Everyone At The Wikipedia Community, Thank You Very Much For Your Time And Consideration On This Latest Availability of New Information To Be Added To These Three Articles That This Non-Member Has Contributed To The Articles.

98.229.132.126 (talk) 03:55, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

discography photos

how do i upload a photo when I edit a page I created for another page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hatcetlife32 (talk • contribs) 06:22, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

Click "upload file" in the left side column on every page. You can also click Wikipedia:File Upload Wizard. CTF83! 06:49, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

Image cropped but turned out strangely

Hi, I used cropbot from the wikipedia commons to crop this image [2], and it turned out correctly. However, on the wikipedia page it is used on, Cassadee Pope, for some reason it is compressed/stretched strangely... How should I resolve this? Thank you! Maine12329 (talk) 11:05, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

Images cropped or updated in Commons take some time to reflect in articles here. At the time of this reply, I don't see any problems with the image. --Anbu121 (talk me) 15:42, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

Messed up the page

I tried to insert an additional item in the list of references in Vienna College and I messed up. The title "History" vanished, as well as the [edit] command on the right hand side. How do I fix this? How do i add the Reference title/link? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Daverwatts (talk • contribs) 11:43, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

I've fixed this for you; I've also added a References section.

The college's own website is already listed in the External Links section, so it doesn't need adding again as an inline citation reference. Instead, you should add independent sources that discuss the college. (For example, newspaper reports.) --Demiurge1000 (talk) 11:48, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

The college website is a "primary source", and secondary sources make better references (they are hopefully more neutral). Apteva (talk) 03:59, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

Name Change

Hello. I smitted an article on Dec.13.12 I changed the name from Ceek do to a battle, to Zlastic. Can you make the proper changes;

Thanks

Dr. Da Silva, Shawn Lee — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.145.58.69 (talk) 14:35, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

I think that you are saying that you have changed the name of your product from "Ceek" to "Zlastic", and you want the draft article moved from Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Ceek to Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Zlastic (which appears in red, because that page does not exist). This could be done, but I must tell you that it is likely you are wasting your time in trying to create this article. It will not be acceptable to Wikipedia unless you can show that it is notable, i.e. that it already has significant coverage (not just mentions or press releases) in multiple reliable sources independent of you. Wikipedia does not accept articles which are promotional, and on a similar reason you are strongly discouraged from writing an article about a topic you are close to, and so have a conflict of interest. Sorry. --ColinFine (talk) 16:57, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

facebook

To whom it may concern, I am a regular visitor to Wikipedia and have heard rumours that you are in some kind of trouble (?)

I am also a Facebook visitor. I’ve noticed that you can’t share articles from the Wikipedia site to Facebook and vice versa.

Would it be possible to bring forwards ideas to be able to transfer article to article? Would be a great help when trying to make a point or educate etc......

Yours thankfully, Aimee Thomson.92.235.167.184 (talk) 14:41, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

Facebook community pages may incorporate content from Wikipedia—such use complies with Wikipedia policies on reuse of content. We at Wikipedia have no control over how the content is included nor can we help to remove it. Facebook does have a topic on Community pages and profile connections on their Help Center. Wikipedia isn't in any trouble as far as I know. Sure, random controversies about specific articles or about governance, or whatnot spring up from time to time, but as far as I can tell Wikipedia isn't going anywhere. --Jayron32 14:51, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

Aimee, you are far from the first to suggest this. Please see WP:Perennial proposals#Share pages on Facebook, Twitter etc.. You might also be interested in User:TheDJ/Sharebox. --ColinFine (talk) 16:47, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

incorrect photo of US national and world champion figure skater Kimmie Meissner

Someone has posted a photo of a wrestler, apparently as a crude joke. Release the hounds, please. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.144.160.37 (talk) 16:53, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for pointing out this piece of vandalism. Somebody has already reverted it. --ColinFine (talk) 17:01, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

Spacing in poems

Is there some way to tell bots not to "fix" things within a poem? I put an internal note for editors, because spelling, spacing and punctuation kept getting "fixed", but I just noticed that "AWB"-bot went in and changed the spacing. It took a bit of trouble to track down the original publication in order to get things as originally intended - including spacing between stanzas and verses, etc. ~thanks once more, ~E : 74.60.29.141 (talk) 16:57, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

It would be helpful if you had an example of the kind of fixing you are asking about - maybe an article you have editied and then had it fixed. Astronaut (talk) 17:39, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, didn't intend to be vague. Spacing in poem altered with this edit, "using AWB (8805)" - lines 149-188:[3]

It would be nice if it could be programmed to ignore everything between: <poem> • • • </poem>

~E:modified:74.60.29.141 (talk) 04:08, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

That was an unfortunate edit that removed the extra lines that identified the verses. Apteva (talk) 04:15, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for restoring spacing :) ~E:74.60.29.141 (talk) 04:35, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

That edit was not done by a bot. It was done by a real user, using the AWB tool. If you ever have a question about a user's edits you can leave them a message on their talk page, User_talk:Bgwhite for example RudolfRed (talk) 06:20, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

I am not familiar with AWB, but assuming the removal originated in AWB, I created bug report at Wikipedia talk:AutoWikiBrowser/Bugs#Blank lines removed from inside poem. —teb728 t c 07:07, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

AWB fixed in rev 8807. —teb728 t c 00:48, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

AWB

Hi everyone! I am wondering if there is a way to make AutoWikiBrowser add WikiProject banners to specific appropriate talk pages, and stuff like that. I can't find anything or any options related to this at the program. If someone could help me with this concern, it would be much appreciated. Thanks, TBrandley 19:33, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

You should create a text list of talk pages where you what banners added to. Then you can import it into AWB. Ruslik_Zero 19:43, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

Is there perhaps a way one may make it assess a WikiProject banner to specific "categories" at Wikipedia somehow? That would be helpful. Also, how do you import into AWB? Cheers, TBrandley 21:46, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

For the import question: if you've created a list of article names, one per line, one method is to select the names, copy, right-click in the AWB list box, paste. If you've created a file where the names are inside double-square-brackets, you can pick one of the "Text file" options from the "Source" dropdown. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:47, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

Splitting article on Greg LeMond

A number of editors have been attempting to improve this article to reach Good Article status, and one step we feel we need to take is to split out the section on doping controversies that LeMond has been involved in. The article length is approaching 100 kilobytes, if not already over, and the consensus among editors is to split out the section, but I am afraid that none of us know how that might be done. Could someone direct us to a procedure, or simply take the action needed? Thanks. Gunbirddriver (talk) 19:59, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

Does WP:SPLIT help?--ukexpat (talk) 20:07, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

It tells us when to split and why to split, but I could not figure out from going through it how one would actually make the new page. Gunbirddriver (talk) 22:54, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

I have not split a page, but it seems straightforward to me. Suppose the page you want to create is to be titled "Greg LeMond doping controversy"; then under the heading "Anti-doping stance and controversy" you insert {{main|Greg LeMond doping controversy}}. If you save, or just preview, the article, this will show up as "Main article: Greg LeMond doping controversy", and you can pick the redlink and that will take you to editing the new page. If you only previewed the first page, you will have edit session open on both pages, so you can cut and paste material from one to the other. Don't forget to put it in appropriate categories, to link it back to the original page, probably in the Lede, and to explain in both edit summaries what you have done. --ColinFine (talk) 23:05, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

(edit conflict) WP:SPLIT and Wikipedia:Summary style has the needed information. You copy the content to a new article (remember to credit the source article in the edit summary). You may have to adapt some things so it works as a stand-alone article. And you insert a summary section instead in the old article (mention in the edit summary where the old content was split to). PrimeHunter (talk) 23:08, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

Well, I beleive that worked, but there was a little hiccup. I created the new article with a typo in the title (don't ask). "Greg Lemond anti-doping stance and controveries" should be "Greg Lemond anti-doping stance and controversies". Is there a way to fix the title of the new article? Gunbirddriver (talk) 00:04, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

Help:How to move a page. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:27, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

I guess my question would be, why would you want to split it? If possible you would usually want to keep everything together...easier on the reader and easier for editors to keep things updated. The page is a 100k though it includes a Palmarès section that might be better served in a chart. We have this at tennis project too where consensus is to split if it gets way too big like Roger Federer, but not to split if it's only a tiny bit big, because you are left with two smaller articles where one might get missed by editors. Fyunck(click) (talk) 00:37, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

Most of us feel the section on controversies detracted from the major accomplishments that he achieved as a cyclist, and was too long compared to the rest of the article. Also it is an area of ongoing controversey, of substance enough that we felt it could stand as its own article. That was the consensus anyway. Well, it was a bit of the sorcerer's apprentice, but I think we got it achieved. Thanks all for your help. Gunbirddriver (talk) 01:17, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

Just to echo what Gunbirddriver said, there was consensus, firstly, but beyond that, the material as it stood within the article originally, was disproportionate to the total amount of info and biographical detail presented on the subject. There was too much of it, it was too controversial, it's evolving constantly and yet reflects only a relatively small period of the subject's life and achievements. Plus it was unseemly having an entire section about feuding and controversies when they represented only a fraction of his notability. Thanks though for helping us!joepa^T 05:01, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

Incorrect information about Crin Antonescu subject on english version of Wikipedia.

Crin Antonescu (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

The infobox says that Crin Antonescu is the acting President of Romania, but in reality he is the President of the Senate. The romanian version of wikipedia clearly states this, and it is the truth. ro:Crin Antonescu

The user that inserted the untruthful information is a liberal party member and may have political reasons. He is also treating anyone who contradicts him without much respect.

I hope this situation gets resolved and thank you for your attention. :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.26.140.192 (talk) 20:38, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

The infobox says "President of Romania Acting/Interim In office 10 July 2012 – 27 August 2012". This seems correct. It doesn't claim he has the position now. Infoboxes sometimes start with the highest or most recent office the subject has held. You could suggest to move the current office to the top. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:01, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

My articles

Need some help. thank you. --Hygek8117 (talk) 22:25, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

What help do you want? The comments on your talk page seem to be telling you that the subjects of your articles are news rather than notable topics for an encyclopaedia. --ColinFine (talk) 23:08, 14 December 2012 (UTC)