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December 19

Your advise on editing a page that has no data but a single word title

Dear Editor

The page "Anagnostis" exists already but just as a redirect to "Reader (liturgy) ". During the next few weeks I would like to contribute to the page "Anagnostis" the meaning and origin of which is not only relative to the Church. Can you please give me the steps as to how to edit the title of the page "Anagnostis", also adding new data, but without eliminating the so called redirect to "Reader"? Many thanks Anagnostis Agelarakis 96.250.15.153 (talk) 00:58, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

You would edit the redirect page to removed the redirect code and add your content. But note that the article your create must comply with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, particularly WP:GNG and WP:RS. See WP:YFA for further assistance.--ukexpat (talk) 01:59, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Also, see Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not a dictionary. GeorgeLouis (talk) 02:04, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

cassadee pope

I am watching the LIVE show and at 937 read this??? On December 18th 2012, she was declared the first female winner of the series, winning a recording contract with Universal Music Group

wth? this is on part that can not be edited so why did you do this???? not right!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.235.147.238 (talk) 03:30, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Cassadee Pope is not protected for any reason and open for editing. Mlpearc (powwow) 03:39, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

To edit the text before the first sub-heading, click the "Edit" link at the top of the page, where it says "Read / Edit / View history". -- John of Reading (talk) 07:26, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

I'm guessing you're asking how the winner was known before you saw it on the supposedly live broadcast. this diff explains it, though it was probably a hoax (but turned out to be correct). —[AlanM1(talk)]— 07:47, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

software engineering

what is difference between B.Sc(Hons) Software engineering & BS software engineering ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.186.242.68 (talk) 06:28, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

You should ask your question at WP:RD/C, as this is the help desk, where we only answer questions about using Wikipedia. Scarce2 (talk) 06:42, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Both are Bachelor of Science, Software engineering - "Hons" = "Honors" ~E:74.60.29.141 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 07:38, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Alex Cejka fiancée

Hi. Can you please update my page and add Alyssa harvey as my fiancée .. I am Alex Cejka golf professional — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.12.191.58 (talk) 06:42, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

I added info about Alyssa becoming your manager in March 2012[1] (there were several news stories on that and I picked the first one i came across). However, I did not find any newspaper source mentioning that Alyssa Harvey now is your fiancée. If you know of a URL link to a newspaper source mentioning that Alyssa Harvey now is your fiancée, this will allow us to add the information to the Alex Čejka article. -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 07:23, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

i.e. there is no way to verify that you are actually you when posting from a (relatively) anonymous IP address. Anyone could post anything, claiming to be you. Wikipedia needs to cite a reliable source. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 16:33, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Account help

I don't know why, but when I signed up for a wiki account I didn't register an email address. I've now forgotten the password I registered with, and can only stay logged in because of the cookie. I also can't register an email address and request a new password because of the necessary password. Cookies are only for 180 days, so I might lose access soon. Does anyone have any ideas on how to reset the password (I've tried guessing it on a different browser several times). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 私の旅 (talk • contribs) 09:40, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

If you use Firefox and have the password saved, you can go to the Firefox options and click on Security. Then click on Saved Passwords and then Show Passwords. It will show you your Wikipedia password. If this is not the case, there may be a similar way in whatever browser you do use. Also, there may be a way for someone on the Wikipedia end of things can help. I don't know that but someone may be along shortly to make a suggestion there. Dismas|^(talk) 10:41, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately it's definately not saved in firefox's saved passwords (do use firefox, but not save passwords). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 私の旅 (talk • contribs) 12:41, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Two ideas. 1) Can you add your email now to the account? What does it show at the bottom of the Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-personal for email? 2) You may be able to use Committed Identity to help. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2007-05-14/Committed_identity , but I'm not sure the procedure from there.Naraht (talk) 15:11, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

On the preferences page I have an option to set up an email address, but when i click the link it insists on my wikipedia password as well as my specified email address. 私の旅 (talk) 13:09, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

If you create a commited identity, you can then use that to get a crat to rename a new account the same as your old one (maybe????) Mdann52 (talk) 15:18, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

I've created a commited identity but I'm not sure of the procedure from there. 私の旅 (talk) 13:02, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

meta:Privacy policy says: "Users whose accounts do not have a valid email address will not be able to reset their password if it is lost. In such a situation, however, users may be able to contact one of the Wikimedia server administrators to enter a new e-mail address." meta:System administrators has a list. I have never found information about whether this happens in practice or what is required. Still being able to edit should give you a big advantage in convincing somebody that your request is legitimate and not some hacker trying to steal the account. I would like to hear what happens if you make a request. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:32, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

Rizzoma

why does wikipedia not use Rizzoma? So would all be able to figure out how to edit, correct, and roll back. However, lack Rizzoma to be mature before it can be used, but it probably is not that long, so later you can maybe use it?--89.249.2.53 (talk) 11:22, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for your suggestion. However, we seem to be managing quite well with the Wikimedia software currently in place. Yunshui 雲‍水 14:13, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

I'm not familiar with Rizzoma. The editors who hang out at WP:VPT are more likely to know something about it, and have more informed feedback on whether it would be a good substitute. It would be quite a big deal, not something to be taken lightly, but the editors there can give you better feedback.--SPhilbrick(Talk) 15:09, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Navigating between Commons and actual text page

Hi! I have just uploaded a number of images which I now want to copy and paste into my Wiki page. I can't figure out now to navigate between the Commons page which gives me the text for my images, and back to my actual text page to insert them. Can you help? Many thanks. Martine Complianceinfo21 (talk) 11:24, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

You'll need to use more than one window/tab. Your uploads are listed here and the page you are working on is here.

To jump from Wikipedia to the list of uploads at Commons, click on "Contributions" at the top right, then "uploads" in the row of small links at the top of your contributions page, then the "See also" link near the top of the "File list" page. -- John of Reading (talk) 12:25, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Thank you so much, just what I needed! Martine Complianceinfo21 (talk) 14:07, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Signature image

Hello, I am trying to add an image that is a signature to a Infobox, can someone please tell me the correct syntax as I cannot get the image to display. The image is uploaded and I can make it display elsewhere, just not the infobox. I looked at Stan Lee example for assistance but reproducing this method doesn't work. Also tried Google and the Wikipedia image help page but no mention of signature.

• Image is File:Jack-henderson-signature.gif
• Page is Jack Henderson (charity fundraiser) — Preceding unsigned comment added by TommyTipper (talk • contribs) 17:02, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

The template that is used on this page does have a field for signature. Ruslik_Zero 17:09, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Does not have...--ukexpat (talk) 17:25, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

I changed the article to use {{Infobox person}} instead, with {{Infobox artist}} embedded as a module. Season to taste. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 19:13, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Well call me a monkey's uncle, I didn't know you could do that! We live and learn. Thanks.--ukexpat (talk) 19:19, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Copyright

I have copied the definition of Cimmerian Sensualism which is NOT copyrighted. However images are copyrighted, thus I have NOT used any images.

Please review it over again.

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PorteDauphine (talk • contribs) 20:23, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Hello Help desk, and welcome to Wikipedia. While we appreciate your contributing to Wikipedia, there are certain things you must keep in mind about using information from your sources to avoid copyright or plagiarism issues here.

• You can only copy/translate a small amount of a source, and you must mark what you take as a direct quotation with double quotation marks (") and a cited source. You can read about this at Wikipedia:Non-free content in the sections on "text". See also Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners, for how to cite sources here.
• Aside from limited quotation, you must put all information in your own words and structure, in proper paraphrase. Following the source's words too closely can create copyright problems, so it is not permitted here; see Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing. (There is a college level introduction to paraphrase, with examples, hosted by the Online Writing Lab of Purdue.) Even when using your own words, you are still, however, asked to cite your sources to verify information and to demonstrate that the content is not original research.
• Our primary policy on using copyrighted content is Wikipedia:Copyrights. You may also want to review Wikipedia:Copy-paste.
• In very rare cases (that is, for sources that are public domain or compatibly licensed), it may be possible to include greater portions of a source text. However, please seek help at the help desk before adding such content to the article. 99.9% of sources may not be added in this way, so it is necessary to seek confirmation first. If you do confirm that a source is public domain or compatibly licensed, you will still need to provide full attribution; see Wikipedia:Plagiarism for the steps you need to follow.
• Also note that Wikipedia articles may not be copied without attribution. If you want to copy from another Wikipedia project or article, you can, but please follow the steps in Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia.

It's very important that contributors understand and follow these practices, as policy requires that people who persistently do not must be blocked from editing. If you have any questions about this, you are welcome to leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. --Orange Mike | Talk 20:36, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

And there's WP:MCQ too.--ukexpat (talk) 20:50, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Adding New Content

I am the social media manager for my company, and I am trying to get my company's brand to be added to wikipedia and am not sure on the steps to take and where to go within the site navigation to add the information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Schultzsc (talk • contribs) 21:37, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

You cannot. See Wikipedia:Conflict of interest for information as to why you cannot. --Jayron32 21:41, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

"Strongly discouraged" is not the same as "cannot" RudolfRed (talk) 21:45, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Anyone who has been at Wikipedia for longer than a week will quickly realize that new users who try to add content about companies they work for, for the express purpose of promoting that company, get their work deleted vanishingly close to 100% of the time. It isn't worth trying to explain the difference to a new user between "You could technically do it if you had years of experience at Wikipedia and were able to work within our rather strict policies and guidelines well enough to make this workable for your company" and "Really, just don't". The latter explanation works well enough for preventing the user from hating Wikipedia, which is what happens every single time someone tries to create an article about their employer because their boss told them to. --Jayron32 15:01, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

(ec) If your company meets the notability guidelines you can request an article at WP:RA. Instructions for writing an article yourself are at WP:YFA, but read WP:COI first. RudolfRed (talk) 21:44, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Technically, you could. Bluntly: you shouldn't. You have a massive conflict of interest, and are the worst possible person to create such an article, especially since your goal (to promote your company) is opposed to our goals and principles. For further information, see Wikipedia:Best practices for editors with conflicts of interest. --Orange Mike | Talk 21:45, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Article Feedback Tool

How do I enable "Article Feedback Tool v.4" of Wikipedia on another wikimedia wiki? Thanks Raoli (talk) 21:42, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Hello. Your question seems to be related to another wiki. A wiki is any website using wiki software, of which there are thousands. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is a help desk for asking questions related to using this wiki. Thus, we are unable to assist you in matters concerning this unrelated website and the best course of action may be to seek appropriate avenues of help there. Alternatively, if your question concerns a problem or feature of the MediaWiki software on which many wikis are run, you could try the MediaWiki support desk. We also have a reference desk section dedicated to helping with computing related questions. Best of luck. --Orange Mike | Talk 21:49, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Sure? If Wikivoyage wants to enable "Article Feedback Tool" who or where should I ask? The "Article Feedback Tool" is a function used on en.wikipedia. --Raoli (talk) 21:55, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Maybe the folks at WP:VPT can help?--ukexpat (talk) 22:01, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Thank you. I'll try there. Raoli (talk) 22:05, 19 December 2012 (UTC)