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The WikiEagle - January 2022

The WikiEagle

The WikiProject Aviation Newsletter

Volume I — Issue 1
Aviation Project • Project discussion • Members • Assessment • Outreach • The WikiEagle
Announcements After over a decade of silence, the WikiProject Aviation newsletter is making a comeback under the name The WikiEagle. This first issue was sent to all active members of the project and its sub-projects. If you wish to continue receiving The WikiEagle, you can add your username to the mailing list. For now the newsletter only covers general project news and is run by only one editor. If you wish to help or to become a columnist, please let us know. If you have an idea which you believe would improve the newsletter, please share it; suggestions are welcome and encouraged. On 16 December, an RfC was closed which determined theaerodrome.com to be an unreliable source. The website, which is cited over 1,500 articles, mainly on WWI aviation, as of the publishing of this issue. Luft46.com has been added to the list of problematic sources after this discussion. The Jim Lovell article was promoted to Featured Article status on 26 December after being nominated by Hawkeye7. The Raymond Hesselyn article was promoted to Good Article status on 4 December after being nominated by Zawed. The Supermarine Sea King article was promoted to Good Article status on 22 December after being nominated by Amitchell125. The William Hodgson (RAF officer) article was promoted to Good Article status on 26 December after being nominated by Zawed.
Members New Members KingAviationKid (Joined on 17 December) PatrickChiao (Joined on 22 December) Wp9097 (Joined on 16 December) Number of active members: 386. Total number of members: 921. Closed Discussions Featured Article assessment Jim Lovell (discussion) – Closed as promoted on 26 December 2021 Good Article assessment HAL Tejas (discussion) – Closed as not promoted on 30 December 2021 William Hodgson (RAF officer) (discussion) – Closed as promoted on 26 December 2021 Supermarine Sea King (discussion) – Closed as promoted on 22 December 2021 Raymond Hesselyn (discussion) – Closed as promoted on 4 December 2021 Deletion Timeline of Berlin Brandenburg Airport's construction (discussion) – Closed as delete and redirect on 30 December 2021 Evergreen International Airlines Flight 17 (discussion) – Closed as keep on 25 December 2021 Requested moves Akbarpur (Ambedkar Nagar) Airstrip → Akbarpur Airstrip (discussion) – Closed as moved on 30 December 2021 1983 Avensa Douglas DC-9 crash → Avensa Flight 007 (discussion) – Closed as moved on 30 December 2021 Garuda Indonesia Flight 035 → Garuda Indonesian Airways Flight 035 (discussion) – Withdrawn on 28 December 2021	Article Statistics This data reflects values from DMY. Aviation pages by quality Quality Total FA 142 FL 15 A 56 GA 505 B 4,573 C 11,878 Start 15,082 Stub 18,754 List 2,539 Category 11,638 Disambig 653 File 2,713 Portal 629 Project 89 Redirect 1,518 Template 2,489 NA 66 Assessed 73,339 Unassessed 1 Total 73,340 WikiWork factors (?) ω = 251,827 Ω = 4.92
New/Ongoing Discussions Featured Article review D. B. Cooper (discussion) – Since 14 December 2021 A-class Article assessment Granville Gee Bee Model A (discussion) – Since 21 April 2020 List of aviation shootdowns and accidents during the Iraq War (discussion) – Since 22 February 2010 Good Article assessment Romanian Air Corps (discussion) – Since 25 December 2021 Jean Batten (discussion) – Since 2 October 2021 Merger proposals List of astronauts by name → List of astronauts by year of selection (discussion) – Since 10 August 2021 List of cosmonauts → List of space travelers by nationality (discussion) – Since 10 August 2021 List of space travelers by name → List of space travelers by nationality (discussion) – Since 10 August 2021 Holidays Czech Airlines → Czech Airlines (discussion) – Since 23 June 2021 Bendix Aviation → Bendix Corporation (discussion) – Since 30 May 2021 Airport Movement Area Safety System → Airport Surface Surveillance Capability (discussion) – Since 29 May 2021 ASDE-X → Airport Surface Surveillance Capability (discussion) – Since 28 May 2021 Splitting proposals Family Airlines (discussion) – Since 23 November 2021 2021 Kabul airport attack (discussion) – Since 24 September 2021 List of military aircraft of the United States (discussion) – Since 16 August 2021 Braniff International Airways (discussion) – Since 8 September 2019 Deletion List of maiden voyages (discussion) – Since 29 December 2021 Requested moves Hot-air balloon → Hot air balloon (discussion) – Since 30 December 2021 Aeropostal Alas de Venezuela Flight 108 → Aeropostal Alas de Venezuela Flight 109 (discussion) – Since 28 December 2021 Garuda Indonesia Flight 150 → Garuda Indonesian Airways Flight 150 (discussion) – Since 28 December 2021 Garuda Indonesia Flight 206 → Garuda Indonesian Airways Flight 206 (discussion) – Since 28 December 2021 Garuda Indonesia Flight 708 → Garuda Indonesian Airways Flight 708 (discussion) – Since 28 December 2021 Garuda Indonesia Flight 892 → Garuda Indonesian Airways Flight 892 (discussion) – Since 28 December 2021 TWA Flight 800 → TWA Flight 800 (1996) (discussion) – Since 27 December 2021 Dynamic Airways Flight 405 → Dynamic International Airways Flight 405 (discussion) – Since 26 December 2021 CommutAir Flight 4281 → CommutAir Flight 4821 (discussion) – Since 25 December 2021 Thai Airways → Thai Airways International (discussion) – Since 13 December 2021 Thai Airways fleet → Thai Airways International fleet (discussion) – Since 13 December 2021 List of Thai Airways destinations → List of Thai Airways International destinations (discussion) – Since 13 December 2021 Did you know Ravish Malhotra (discussion) – Since 30 December 2021 Alexander Tahy (discussion) – Since 26 December 2021 Veronica Volkersz (discussion) – Since 6 December 2021 Rudolf Szepessy-Sokoll (discussion) – Since 3 December 2021 On The Main Page Did you know... ... that the aerobatic demonstration aircraft used by SoloTürk is also used in military operations of the Turkish Air Force? (24 December)
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LA to FA 2022

LA to FA 2022

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Nomination for deletion of Template:HexColorToLum

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Nomination for deletion of Template:Infobox U.S. county/TZ row

Template:Infobox U.S. county/TZ row has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. Gonnym (talk) 11:11, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply

Thanks for your reply

Re my comment of 2020-Aug-24 at " talk: Wayne Roberson, Austin, Texas", you asked about errors I mentioned but did not correct…these were minor, but nobody likes loose ends. Before I elaborate to you or proceed to fix those errors, I’ve tried to learn more about entering. But finding where to go within Wikipedia to learn how to do many things eludes me. Much of my prior editing has been desultory: rephrasing for clarity, etc. Often I simply look into an "edit" screen to see how things are done. Your experience as an editor is far beyond my knowledge, and you replied to me, so I am asking for help. I have an example problem that pertains to many things I would like to enter: I cannot learn how to add to or revise the "References" section of an article. An example is "Fort Lancaster": all I see is on the "edit" screen is "==References==" then "{{Reflist}}". [I corrected this to show the template instead of substituting it, using {{Tlx|Reflist}} instead of just {{Reflist}}. – AlanM1] I’ve entered several times to this article (in 1974-1976, I was head of field archeology at that site). I want to comment on a recent statement about a "model" of the site in a local (Ozona TX) museum, which museum’s Wikipedia article has a photo of a cute but fanciful little construction with no data to support it. There is no illustration in Federal or State of Texas data showing what was above ground, only archeological ephemera such as foundation stones and soil differences are evident. The supposed "ruins" of a building in the article itself is the work of late 1960’s architects who had little more than a few scattered stones to guide them, and the "restoration" is imaginative and embarrassing, to say the least, but I would not eliminate the photo or criticize the "restoration" — which precedes my time at Texas Parks and Wildlife. How should I proceed with my learning. And how may I avoid being obtrusive? Wayne Roberson, Austin, Texas (talk) 23:33, 25 January 2022 (UTC)

@Wayne Roberson, Austin, Texas: Hi. I'm afraid I've no idea what it was about to begin with, being such a long time ago. I'm pretty inactive on Wikipedia for some time now, so I can't be of much help, except to say that, if you're looking for a primer on references, I believe WP:REFBEGIN is a decent starting point and will point you to additional resources if needed.

The key is that the reference code is placed between <ref>...</ref> tags at the point in the text where you want the ^[#] to appear. The wiki software then assembles them all at the point where the {{Reflist}} template is found (usually in the References section), doing additional formatting and setting up the links back and forth to the ^[#] in the article text.

Two good places to ask for help are WP:Teahouse and WP:Help desk. I hope this helps. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 21:29, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

Thank you

Your edit to revert on Kirksville, MO was not made by me. I believe I was logged into my Wiki account and a student took over and inserted the 'god forsaken wasteland' edit. Sorry to have caused that trouble and good looking out. I'll be more careful to log out of my account in the future. From an embarrassed Kirksvillian. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Toka248 (talk • contribs) 16:29, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:SCOTUS term for US volume

Template:SCOTUS term for US volume has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. Nigej (talk) 11:59, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

Features for new users coming soon (and mentors wanted)

Hello.

Although you've not been very active at all there recently, I see you're still currently listed as a host at the Teahouse. So I wanted to make sure you're aware of the imminent rollout of new Growth Team Features which every new account will be getting by default. Each users will soon see a new 'Homepage' tab next to their User page. It contains two main elements which might impact on your involvement - and you'd be welcome to get involved and help out directly with one of them.

• Firstly, they will be offered a range of 'suggested edits', and encouraged to make simple improvements to pages that interest them. (Being aware of this feature would be helpful for all Teahouse hosts if you're likely to offer advice on tasks for them to start out doing.)
• There's also a 'Your impact' box to show them how many people have seen the pages they've just edited.
• Finally, each new user is randomly assigned a 'mentor' from a list of friendly, experienced editors, like yourself. If they get stuck, they can ask a question directly to them via a Your mentor box, and hopefully get a swift, friendly answer from that mentor. Currently, this feature is given to 2% of new users, but it's set to increase to around 10% in the very near future.

To spread the load on our current list of around 65 mentors, I'm reaching out to ask if you'd like to help out and sign up as one? The workload is relatively small; User Panini! reports receiving four questions a month, on average, all of which were simple ones of the type we already get at the Teahouse, whilst I've had just one in the last 3 weeks. To view a list of every question asked of all mentors over the last 14 days, click here.

If becoming a mentor and being available to help new users on their first few days here interests you - just as have done at the Teahouse in the past - then please consider signing up at Growth Team features/Mentor list. But please only do so if you are genuinely willing to be available to help. Existing users can already 'opt-in' to seeing the Newcomer Homepage features via their Preferences.

Thank you! Nick Moyes (talk) 11:30, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the info, @Nick. Unfortunately, after some time away from the help platforms and editing in general (due to interference from Real Life^TM), I don't feel particularly qualified to help any more, as it seems I need to go look up some of the simplest things, and don't really have a feel for what's going on in the project like I used to. I applaud the new features and hope they lead to more/better engagement by new users. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 00:13, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

No worries. Thanks for letting me know. Hope you’ll be back once you get your feet under the table again. Cheers Nick Moyes (talk) 00:26, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Color list row

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Nomination for deletion of Template:Color list top

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Nomination for deletion of Template:ColorToLum

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Nomination for deletion of Template:RM row name

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Color redirects

A tag has been placed on Category:Color redirects indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

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Drake's recent certifications

Hey, have you noticed differences on RIAA's website? When we check the database of each song, RIAA has updated the singles equal to 27M. But on their list of highest digitally certified artists, they have only added 20M. TheWikiholic (talk) 01:54, 17 December 2022 (UTC)

@TheWikiholic: When I've run those down in the past, I usually find it's related to some idiosyncracy in the way they add up the individual awards. I.e., either there are awards in the detailed search that are not included in the total for some reason, or there are awards missing from the detailed search, usually because of a slight difference in the artist name, collaboration, etc.. I'd expect the totals and detailed search have to come from the same underlying data – I don't think they are manually tallied – so there is usually an explanation, and I just let it work itself out in time. I've occasionally emailed them about a problem. Though I've never gotten a direct response, they fix it eventually. :) —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 16:20, 18 December 2022 (UTC)

(more at Talk:List of best-selling music artists § RIAA's recent certifications of Drake) —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 07:31, 1 January 2023 (UTC)

Hi I noticed that you haven’t included many artists like Bob Marley, Oasis, Robbie Williams, Jimi Hendrix, Jamiroquai and many more, is there a reason for this? If you want some more bands contact me at 78.147.230.39 (talk) 19:49, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

Sorry I haven’t spoken on Wiki before and should have started a new topic so I hope this reaches AlanM1 :) 78.147.230.39 (talk) 19:51, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

No worries. As you no doubt know, there are lots of different ways to look at music certifications. List of highest-certified music artists in the United States is specifically about just two of the RIAA lists, as published on their website, and cited in the article. The criteria for inclusion are simple, based on the top 100 "Artists (albums)" and top 50 "Artists (digital singles)" ranks in the two lists. There are (or can be) other articles about other top-n lists by RIAA and others. I hope this helps. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 03:04, 1 April 2023 (UTC)

Also note that the artists you cited have certs below the top 100 rank (currently 23 MM certs). Bob Marley & The Wailers, for example, have 21.5 MM album certs and Jimi Hendrix has 23 MM, while Oasis, Robbie Williams, and Jamiroquai have less than the 10 MM certs that is apparently the criterion to appear on the RIAA list. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 03:22, 1 April 2023 (UTC)

Grammar?

In March 2022, you edited Boron Air Force Station, including "grammar" changes. One was to change "inactivate" to "deactivate" in connection with the operating squadron. USAF units are not deactivated, they are inactivated. (Citations available upon request) Lineagegeek (talk) 23:50, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

@Lineagegeek: Re: this, both terms seem used according to "de" vs. "in", which even shows a 7:5 preference, though that's not at all scientific. Google's Oxford Languages dictionary entries even specifically mention the specific military use of the term at "deactivate", but not "inactivate". Still, I probably wasn't referring to that change when I put "grammar" in the comment, and I'm a little surprised I made the change anyway; must have been on auto-pilot. I can understand it being either way if inactivate is the preferred military term, though we are supposed to eschew jargon (and words like eschew, for that matter) in favor of more general terminology and usage. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 18:32, 19 February 2023 (UTC)

For USAF units "inactivate" is proper and has a different meaning from similar terms, like "disband", "discontineu", and the older "demobilize". So, I view it more as accuracy than jargon. Lineagegeek (talk) 00:03, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

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Template:Wins-losses-pct in table

Hi, I've recently been using Template:Wins-losses-pct in table, which I've found very helpful, and I see you created some years ago. I'm writing to ask if there is any variant that would do the same for wins-losses-ties? I looked but could not find one. Thanks. Dmoore5556 (talk) 07:28, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

Done. See Template talk:Wins-losses-pct in table#Overlap in functionality. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 17:49, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

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2024 Missouri Valley Conference baseball tournament

@AlanM1: Currently I am working on the draft for the 2024 Missouri Valley Conference baseball tournament, but I am hitting some unexpected troubles with the way I want to go about the bracket template. You see there is a play-in round for the No. 5 vs No. 8 seeds and the No. 6 vs No. 7 seeds, but the losers of the play-in round play each other. That's where I am running into trouble. The winner of that game then play the losers of the No. 3 vs No. 4 matchup, who the winner then plays to winner of No. 1 vs the lowest play-in seed. I know this seems confusing but you can see a visual reference here. I am very confused on how I can make all of the games show while also making it easy to read. Thank you for your time. MarqueesCalaway (talk) 14:24, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

@MarqueesCalaway: Looks really complicated, though I'm sure they had a reason to structure it that way :) I'm afraid I have been away from WML too long now to be of any immediate use in this. I'd suggest contacting some of the editors that worked on NCAA tourneys in the last year, who might have more current expertise. Best of luck. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 22:29, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

@AlanM1: Do you have any recommendations? MarqueesCalaway (talk) 03:58, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

@MarqueesCalaway: How about Billcasey905, who created 2022 Missouri Valley Conference baseball tournament? —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 20:27, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

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