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February 6

Copyright

Hi, to whom should I send the permission email sent to me by the copyright holder of a picture? Kotjap (talk) 00:28, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

See the process set out at WP:IOWN.--ukexpat (talk) 01:41, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

A Page About Me

I don't know if anyone here can help me, but there is an embarrassing page about me created by an enemy of mine that makes me sound conceded and mean. I would like it deleted. Its link is http://en.labs.wikimedia.org/wiki/Brendan_Glascock . 173.74.109.162 (talk) 02:22, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Well, you should contact people at that project and see conflict of interest. I cannot help you further I am afraid. TBrandley ^{(what's up)} 02:38, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

I've raised the issue with a global steward to see if he can fix it. Ryan Vesey 02:44, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

And it has now been deleted.--ukexpat (talk) 03:04, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Image problems

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Your question is unclear, please clarify.--ukexpat (talk) 04:54, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Seems they were both deleted as copyvio. Great Seal of the United States. You can probably upload them using Wikipedia:Non-free use rationale guideline.--Canoe1967 (talk) 05:01, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

I found replacements for that article. Any more need them?--Canoe1967 (talk) 05:08, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

UCSI University

This article is written as an advertisment. Where do I find the appropriate tag? ```Buster Seven Talk

They are all listed at Wikipedia:Template messages. The one you were after is named {{advert}}. However, since the promotional material is copied straight from the university website, I will shortly be removing it as a copyright violation. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:48, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Thank you, John. I will make note of that. ```Buster Seven Talk 07:50, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Article naming

Hola, I have doubts about renaming/moving an article: There is Color, a '80s Japanese punk band. I wish to create (or at least properly link to) an article about a similarly named popular Hungarian band from the '70s. Should I create/link to Color (Hungarian band)? Should I create a disambiguation page? As far as a few Google searches went, the assumed notability of the two groups are about the same... (also, I know I could find answers if I'd dug deep in Wiki policies, but I considered this too small of an issue to invest the time) poisonborz (talk) 11:01, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

A link at the top of each band page linking to the other band would be good. Also adding the new band to Color_(disambiguation)#Performers CTF83! 11:16, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Maybe Color (band) should be moved to Color (Japanese band) at the same time if neither is primary. Roger (talk) 11:41, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Does either band go primarily by the word "color" in their native language ? If so, we should create the article under that word, and provide a link there at the top of the other. The "color" disambiguation page should also have links to both. StuRat (talk) 16:15, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Italian American Inventors

Ref Italian American Inventors

To whom it may concern:

My Dad Michael D Ercolino invented the early homing device used during World War 2 which was used sucessfully during the Invasions of North Africa and Normandy. He also invented the Conical V Beam in 1946 which made it possible to receive signals beyond the immediate areas of the TV stations. I have the original patents.

Sincerely yours,

Charles Ercolino — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:CD9B:4DF0:8582:836B:9D2B:850F (talk) 14:54, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

The article List of Italian Americans is intended to be a list of Wikipedia articles about Italian Americans — or you could say, a list of Italian Americans who have Wikipedia articles. I cannot find a Wikipedia article about your father, so he does not qualify for the list. However, it is possible that he is notable enough to justify the creation of a Wikipedia article about him. Maproom (talk) 16:11, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Can you provide some sources (other than yourself) for this information ? StuRat (talk) 16:11, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

I have been helping Jonathan Chaplin (talk · contribs), son of Roy Chaplin. Roy was one of the Hawker designers responsible for the Hurricane and Harrier. I am prepared to help Charles develop an article for his father. We would first need to find reliable sources to establish whether Michael D Ercolino is indeed notable, in the Wikipedia sense. If you are interested Charles, please contact me on my talk-page (click the "New Section" tab near the top right of my page; this starts a new conversation) --Senra (talk) 18:59, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Title Change

I have tried unsuccessfully to change the title of my page from my Baltimore City Council campaign to my actual name, Adam Van Bavel. The page can be found here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:AVBforBCC Please help!

Sincerely,

Adam Van BavelAdam Van Bavel 15:28, 6 February 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by AVBforBCC (talk • contribs)

Instructions for changing your username are at Wikipedia:Changing username. The page User:AVBforBCC was deleted, since it was a particularly shameless campaign advertisement and irredeemably promotional. --Orange Mike | Talk 15:51, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Moscow's Red Square

Your information regarding the history of Red Square is completely incorrect. It was the place where executions took place, hence the name "RED" originated from the color of blood. You must do your homework.71.219.45.245 (talk)

Regards

Vladimir Steinberg — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.219.45.245 (talk) 15:47, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Do you have any sources for that ? Executions wouldn't fill much of the square with blood, and I doubt if the official name would be based on that (although perhaps a slang name might be). StuRat (talk) 16:09, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Credo Reference:Red Square (subscription required) states:

The central square of Moscow. Its Russian name (Krasnaya Ploshchad) derives from the Old Slavonic krasny (‘beautiful’ or ‘red’). The translation of ‘red’ became established only in the 20th Century . Historically the site of executions, demonstrations, and processions, the square became the scene of parades every May and November.

... and Britannica Library Edition:Red Square (subscription required) says:

Red Square has been the scene of executions, demonstrations, riots, parades, and speeches. Almost 800,000 square feet (73,000square metres), it lies directly east of the Kremlin and north of the Moskva River.

Does that help at all? --Senra (talk) 16:21, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

I suggest you do your homework, and find the reliable sources for your claim. To me it sounds typical of the stories of etymythology - many of which are widely believed but either wrong or extremely dubious. --ColinFine (talk) 16:36, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

We also have this:

После надстройки в 1625 году Спасской башни Кремля, небольшой участок Пожара между выстроенным на Взлобье в середине XVI века собором Василия Блаженного, башней и Лобным местом в обиходе стал именоваться Красной (то есть красивой) площадью. К концу XVII века название «Красная площадь» распространилось на весь незастроенный участок.

— Russian Wikipedia

which Google translates to

After the add-in in 1625 Spasskaya Tower of the Kremlin, a small area of fire between Vzlobe ranked at the middle of XVI century, St. Basil's Cathedral , tower and place of execution popularly became known as the Red (that is, beautiful) area. By the end of XVII century the name "Red Square" was extended to the entire vacant site

— Google translation

I can find nothing that supports the etymology of Red from the blood of executions. --Senra (talk) 17:10, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Finally, then I'm done here, we learn from a Google translation of Russian Wikipedia:Place of Skulls (which is on Red Square) that "It is also common misconception that the place of execution was a place of public execution in the XIV - XIX centuries" which seems to entirely refute Vladimir's assertion! --Senra (talk) 17:37, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

For completeness (Sorry. I know I said I was done) I should point out that I am not suggesting that we use Wikipedia, specifically in this case the Russian Wikipedia, as a reliable source. I am simply examining what the Russian Wikipedia has to say on the subject --Senra (talk) 17:58, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Magic words

Is there a policy or performance constraint applied to the use of magic words? I use them on my user-page (via this sub-page) and I used them recently at this help-desk in this thread. I noticed recently that magic words are interpreted, even when using a permanent link to a page containing them. By interpreted, I mean the contents change each time the page is loaded. This behaviour is desirable in the way I tend to use magic words. Is such usage allowed? I initially prepared this question for posting at Help talk:Magic words but the edit-notice there suggested I post here --Senra (talk) 16:02, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Presumably if you wanted the values to be fixed, rather than dynamic, you would use "subst"? - David Biddulph (talk) 16:15, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Indeed. But as, in my case, I do want them dynamic, is there a policy or performance constraint against their wide use? If not, I shall carry on using them --Senra (talk) 16:39, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

I'm not aware of any such policy. There are some performance limits, which are described at Wikipedia:Template limits, but your user page is nowhere near them. -- John of Reading (talk) 17:06, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Resolved

 – Great link. Thank you for the information. I can sleep soundly tonight

--Senra (talk) 17:14, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

How to avoid a double dot in a hatnote?

In Alois Hitler, I have added a hatnote to Alois Hitler, Jr. - but now the double dot in the end is ugly. Is there a way to avoid that? --KnightMove (talk) 16:55, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Using {{!}} allows piping it like a wikilink to work. How this appears in the template is {{about|Hitler's father|his half-brother|Alois Hitler, Jr.{{!}}Alois Hitler, Jr}}. I made the edit to fix it. - Purplewowies (talk) 17:12, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Restoring out of character

The article out of character was deleted as per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Out of character, and later resurrected as a redirect to breaking character. I contest this. Out of character and breaking character are very different things. Breaking character is a fault in acting as the character, while out of character is a fault in the character itself. For example, a Donald Duck fan comic where Donald suddenly starts killing people would be out of character, as would simply be the following sentence:

Harry Potter replied to Hermione's question: "Yo dawg, fo shizzle, ya dig?"

I already tried WP:DRV but the request was instantly closed. How do I go about contesting this? Or should I simply go ahead and restore the deleted article myself? JIP | Talk 17:35, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

It was deleted for be only a dictionary definition. Restoring it would result in it being deleted as a recreation of a deleted article where the problem that caused its deletion remains. Can you write an encyclopedia article about 'out of character' that references reliable sources and is more than a definition? RJFJR (talk) 17:39, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Please oh please take this in the light-hearted way it is intended. Surely admins writing content would be out of character? --Senra (talk) 17:47, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Trouble editing part of a page

Hello,

i've edited articles on wikipedia before, but I tried to add a section to the Leadership page today and it is not working. There was some sort of formatting issue when I tried to post it. Can you please let me know what the problem is- and how I can resolve it?

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by X23ndp (talk • contribs) 17:40, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

You appear to have fixed the problem yourself, by removing the blank space at the start of a line. Maproom (talk) 18:20, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

WET Design

Please help me rectify the fact that our company name is written incorrectly as the Header.

Our company is called WET (Water Entertainment Technologies) and it has for too long been associated with WET Design because that is our domain name. We currently ONLY refer to the company as WET, it's official title, and we need to somehow ensure that our wikipedia page does not say "WET Design" but rather "WET (Water Entertainment Technologies)"

Please help! — Preceding unsigned comment added by WETpublisher (talk • contribs) 18:09, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

I have moved the article for you, that was easy. But I see two problems.

1. You have a username that suggests you are associated with the subject of the article. This is strongly discouraged, see Wikipedia:Username#Promotional_names.
2. If you are in fact associated with the company, you should not be directly involved in editing the article at all, as it will be too difficult for you to be neutral, see Wikipedia:Neutral point of view. Instead, you are encouraged to state your views on the article's talk page. Maproom (talk) 18:32, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

I suspect you may have preferred Wikipedia to leave your company name as WET Design. Wikipedia is case-sensitive but readers of the encyclopaedia generally do not recognise this. Someone searching for your company name may try "Wet" which leads to Wet. Your web site appears to be wetdesign.com so I would naturally try Wet design or Wet Design (both empty pages). Eventually, perhaps in frustration, I may try Google.com using the search term "wet design" (Google is case-insensitive) and the top hit (currently) is your web site wetdesign.com with the second top being WET Design which is now a Wikipedia redirect to WET (Water Entertainment Technologies). And of course, as Maproom says, you need to take care editing your own company article. You have a clear conflict of interest--Senra (talk) 18:43, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Do reliable sources, independent of the company refer to it as "WET", or "WET Design"? If the latter, than that is the appropriate name for the Wikipedia article (which is not your page), irrespective of the official name of the company. --ColinFine (talk) 19:04, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

I am wondering why my article has been deleted?

Help requested ..... I have posted an article about our newspaper information, which is not for adverting purpose, but for history archiving. And this has been deleted. I am wondering what I did must not be fully compliance with your policy, can you please help how to do this correctly. Thanks Redmaplecorp (talk) 19:37, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

It appears to have been deleted because it seemed promotional in nature (See Wikipedia:Why was the page I created deleted?)- But don't panic there is a copy - (See WP:AFTERDELETE) - You can contact one of these administrators to request that the administrator userfy the page or email a copy to you. That said may be best to read over Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations and/or Conflict of interest guide. If you're looking for help making a new article pls see Wikipedia:Your first article. Hope this helped - if not pls post again.Moxy (talk) 19:54, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Please note that Wikipedia's Purpose is not compatible with your intention of "history archiving". We have no interest in advancing your Cause. Thus a conflict of interest exists between you and Wikipedia. Roger (talk) 08:31, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

Making a new page

Editor blocked

Hi There, Trying to publish a page. I have a username and login, I have created, edited, and proofread the page, I have saved the page, I just dont know how to make it live. The wikipedia instructions to me that once I was satisfied to click on the 'move' tabe, remove the 'User:(your username here)/' bit so only the article name remains, only problem is I cannot seem to locate this tab. Any suggestions? Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by CA Department of Rehabilitation (talk • contribs) 19:51, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Deleting A Page For A Non-Existent Person

I've corrected the entry for the third Dean of Carlisle on this page [1]. According to the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography, the third Dean of Carlisle was the Queen's Latin secretary, Sir John Wolley, who died in 1596. There is a Wikipedia article on him under the title John Wolley (MP). Before I corrected it just now, the link on the Dean of Carlisle page went to a stub article entitled John Wooley (priest). It appears there never was such a person, i.e. a John Wooley who was a priest and who was Dean of Carlisle. I'm wondering whether the page should be deleted, and if so how that would be done. Help with this would be much appreciated. NinaGreen (talk) 22:15, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

i just edited this — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.121.36.180 (talk) 22:19, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

I converted the bogus article to a redirect. --Orange Mike | Talk 22:32, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the help! NinaGreen (talk) 01:12, 7 February 2013 (UTC)