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May 29

Unintended Consequences (novel)

The Wiki page on Unintended Consequences says the novel is currently out of print. It IS back in print and available in paperback from http://www.accuratepress.net

It also states that Accurate Press is in Minnesota. This is also incorrect, it is in Missouri.

Unintended Consequences (novel) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.9.105.124 (talk) 00:37, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Edit it to correct the issues, citing a reliable source, or discuss on the article's talk page. Robert McClenon (talk) 00:55, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

BLP issue

I created a page for Danny Tate (validated artist) at his request [DANNY TATE]. Someone keeps going on the page and putting his criminal record on the page. I would understand if someone wrote an article, but these are cut and pastes from his court record, no story told. It is an obvious attempt to discredit Mr. Tate. He has asked me to delete the page altogether, as my attempts to delete the information are only met with repostings. He said he is worried this malicious posting will cause problems for his young children. Robert Downey Jr. and Britney Spears both have criminal records but those records are not posted on their pages. It is clear to me that someone is trying to make Mr. Tate look bad and they are using Wikipedia to do it. Please either lock the page or delete it completely. I do not know how to do either. It would be a shame to have to delete it after all the work I did to write it. duran17Duran17 (talk) 02:56, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

I have semi-protected the article for three months.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 03:09, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Keep in mind that if information is verified from a reliable source it can be used - within the limits of the BLP policy. If there are indisputable sources that prove he really does have a criminal record, it can be mentioned in the article. Article subjects do not have the right to not be embarrassed. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 17:09, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

You have a conflict of interest if Mr. Tate asked you to write the article. And his request to have the page deleted means nothing if he meets the requirements for notablity. Negative information from reliable sources may be used but only if does not have undue weight.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 20:14, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

It depends on whether the criminal record is notable and encyclopedic in the context of the person's life. The relevant diffs have been revdel'd, but the one external link (since removed) which references it points only to a court record for a minor misdemeanor crime. Absent significant evidence in reliable sources that it's an encyclopedic part of his life, I agree that it doesn't belong. Further discussion should probably go over at the BLP Noticeboard. NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 20:15, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Unwatching from the Watchlist

Is there a simple way to unwatch a page from my watchlist, without having to go to the page, have it load when I don't want to read it, click on "unwatch", and wait for it to tell me the page has been unwatched?

If not, why not, and how can such a thing be instituted? μηδείς (talk) 03:05, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

You can go to your watchlist and click on " View and edit watchlist" near the very top. What I suggest though, is that you go to Special:MyPage/skin.js and add to it

importScript('user:js/watchlist.js');

then clear you cache. It makes managing these matters very easy and the interface is really unobtrusive until you invoke it. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 03:17, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Hmm. I have done what I think you have suggested, and created this page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Medeis/monobook.js. But it does not seem to have effected anything. Did I misunderstand you? μηδείς (talk) 03:25, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Nope, that looks right. First, did you clear your cache? If so and it's working, what you should see, near the top of the page (when you are at your watchlist) is a little menu:

 … | 7 days | all | Only new | x | ↑↓ | ±

The "X" will populate the "x)" watchlist remover tab next to each link in your watchlist. The other tools are useful as well and it toggles off and on so it's mostly invisible except when you need it.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 03:32, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

An alternative is to enable the Navigation popups gadget. Then you can unwatch a page by hovering your mouse over a link in the watchlist, or anywhere else for that matter, and picking "unwatch" from the "actions" menu that pops up. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:43, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

John Johnson (reporter)

My name is John Johnson and my Wikipedia page is correct except there is no picture of me. I bring this to your attention because below my name on the John Johnson page are three pictures of related people. They are photos of three white anchormen of my era. My Wikipedia page summary accurately details my career as an Emmy award-winning producer, director, journalist and author and established painter and former professor. Frankly, I don't understand why my white colleagues deserve a picture and I don't. There are many stories on Wikipedia about me with photos. For instance: Ex-newsman John Johnson's Art Portrays His Life.../ Anchorman Uncovers Lung Cancer(YouTube)/WCBS sign-off network cancels news team bigs/NY Times: 2 Ex-WCBS Anchors are hired by WNBC. I would appreciate my picture on the John Johnson(reporter)page as my four adult children keeping asking why it is not displayed along with my former white colleagues. Thank you, John Johnson74.88.213.43 (talk) 03:56, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Well there may not be any photos of you that Wikipedia is allowed to use. Why don't you take one yourself and upload it under a free license? flarn2006 [u t c] time: 04:02, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Echoing what flarn wrote, images must be under a free license (not under copyright) or in the public domain. If you can provide one, please upload it here. Let us know if you need further help or have any other questions. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 04:11, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

(e/c) This has nothing whatsoever to do with your skin color. If you look around Wikipedia you'll note that a vast number of articles on living persons, some of the most famous people in the world, have no picture, and for many other, what we do have is a very poor one. The reason for this is that Wikipedia strives to contain freely-usable content, and we strongly respect copyrights. For that reason, since most photographs are copyrighted, we can't use them and when we can use them, they are often not a good picture but what some person snapped somewhere at a press event. One more wrinkle to understand is that we sometimes allow pictures to be used under fair use even while they remain copyrighted, but we do not allow this for living persons for reasons which are beyond the scope here. So, as flarn2006 suggests above, if you want to see a photograph attached to the article on you (and we do too; articles on people are better with a photo), you can help us with that! The rub, though, is that as I was saying, we require freely-licensed (or public domain) images, which means any photograph you send you must freely-license in a manner compatible with our license, or place it into the public domain (forever). Also, we can't just trust someone to be who they say they are across the Internet, so it has to be given to us through a verifiable method. It can be a bit complicated but please see Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 04:18, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Whoa, that part flew right over my head. Fuhghettaboutit is right; Wikipedia isn't a racist organization. You're not being treated differently because of your race. :-) flarn2006 [u t c] time: 04:36, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

None of the other reporters mentioned in the John Johnson article has an image on Wikipedia. I wonder if this could be a Google summary issue. They sometimes pull images from non-Wikipedia sources and add them to the Wikipedia snippet they present for searches. typing in "John Johnson reporter" into Google I see something that appears to be as the OP describe. Unfortunately, we cannot control how Google reuses our content. If a freely-licensed image was added to the article here I think it will soon show up on Google as well. Rmhermen (talk) 17:22, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Yup, could be Google Knowledge Graph rearing its ugly head again.--ukexpat (talk) 17:27, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

It certainly sounds like it. I wish posters would say when they saw something on a page at Google or Facebook and not at Wikipedia. Here is our standard reply for Google:

Are you by any chance referring to a photo or text shown to the right of a Google search? Google's Knowledge Graph uses a wide variety of sources. There may be a text paragraph ending with "Wikipedia" to indicate that particular text was copied from Wikipedia. An image and other text before or after the Wikipedia excerpt may be from sources completely unrelated to Wikipedia. We have no control over how Google presents our information. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:50, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Why aren't users with IPBE allowed to edit using proxies?

On the page about editing from open proxies, it says, "While [blocking proxies] may affect legitimate users, they are not the intended targets and may freely use proxies until those are blocked." However, on the page for IP block exemption, it says, "Editors granted IP address block exemption should be aware that breach of this policy, including unauthorized editing via proxies, or significant concerns over account abuse or other conduct, may lead to removal of the IP address block exemption."

So I'm confused. If blocking proxies is not meant to impact legitimate edits, and legitimate users are allowed to use proxies that haven't been blocked yet, why doesn't this apply to users with IP block exemption?

flarn2006 [u t c] time: 04:01, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

It applies. Wikipedia:IP block exemption only says "may". Ruslik_Zero 16:43, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Top edits of a page by range of dates

Is there a tool for ordering the contributors to a page between given dates ? Also, if an editor is always responding to a contribution by another editor and not initiating contributions, (i.e. in warring) is that possible to quantify ? Thanks !רסטיניאק (talk) 04:16, 29 May 2013 (UTC)רסטיניאק

The Contributors link near the top of the history page solves your first problem, and the Editor Interaction Analyzer may help with the second, though I haven't tried it. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:37, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

wrong information on my page

HI-

I have written numerous times about misinformation on my page. My date of birth is incorrect and I would appreciate it if you can please correct it.

My name is April Macie and my correct date of birth is September 30, 1975.

Thanks!

April Macie — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aprilcomedy (talk • contribs) 05:08, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

I've removed all mention of your birthdate from April Macie as the article had no source for that information. If you have a reliable source we can cite, perhaps we can add your correct birthdate. --Jayron32 05:35, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

There is a lot of information in that article that could be improved, clarified, or cut, including ambiguous statements such as "performing stand-up comedy for the troops". Which troops? American troops? In which war? The War of 1812? (Clearly not, but still ambiguous.) The "dysfunctional family" claim, (a run-of-the-mill bio inclusion for a comedian,) could be perceived a violation of WP:BLP if unsourced. It's definitely original research. Was "emerging talent to watch" an official statement made by an official in an official capacity, or simply a passing comment made by an emcee onstage in the introduction of the performer? This is why sources are so important in establishing notability and in supporting claims. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 06:18, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Regarding Article Upload

Dear Wikipedia Volunteers,

I am writing this email to you because of a specific concern I am experience at the very moment. I have written an informational article about a specific knowledge sharing program ran by the Korea Development Institute School of Public Policy and Management. The program, called the "K-Developedia" was launced in November 2013. Its main purpose is to develop and keep in database an economic development experience specfic to the Korean economy from its years in poverty to its current stable status today. It works as an encyclopedia database where academic journals, thesis papers, and other studies can be accessed in order to help and aid other countries (developing countries to be more precise), to seek advice or attempt to find solutions to the problems of their own context. However, we are not familiar on the ways of using Wikipedia. And we have, in fact, tried to upload an article about our new program, which has not been going well. We ask for you generous help in letting us achieve our vision of aiding others who can learn from our K-Developedia program. Please do respond and we pray for you kind understanding. Thank you.

Utmost genuinely,

The Korea Development Institute of Public Policy and Management

House number Removed Hoegiro Dongdaemun Gu,

Removed, Korea

Phone number Removed

Fax: Removed— Preceding unsigned comment added by Dellince (talk • contribs) 07:24, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

You have created an article which is now in your sandbox, at User:Dellince/sandbox. While it is there, it is not a Wikipedia article, but you are able to work on it and improve it until it is good enough to convert into an article. Here are some things which you will need to do:

1. Start the article by stating what K-Developedia is. At present, your draft article starts with the etymology of the name, then there is a section on the economic history of Korea. Before any of this, you should say something like "K-Developedia is a database maintained by the government of South Korea...".
2. Provide, in the article, references to reliable independent sources, establishing that K-Developedia is notable. Maproom (talk) 09:08, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

That sandbox draft is, however, a copyright violation, being copied from https://www.kdevelopedia.org/kDevelopedia.do , and hence is liable to speedy deletion. If you want to try again you will need to put it in your own words. - David Biddulph (talk) 10:17, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Help regarding SUL.

Right, now, I recently changed my username to my current one (Jcc) from Chihin.chong.

Problem 1: SUlInfo says Chihin.chong has a SUL account? Is that right? Is that supposed to happen?[1]

Problem 2: I can still logon as Chihin.chong which really annoys me as when I go back to the English Wikipedia from another Wiki where I am still chihin.chong.

Problem 3: By asking for an unsurp of an account for SUL on another Wikipedia, I create a new Wiki account for chihin.chong on the other Wiki, which means that chihin.chong has around 15 wikis he is working on, which only increases with each SUL request. Am I supposed to not login or something.

Please don't "bite" me for my lack of knowledge regarding SUL, thanks jcc (tea and biscuits) 08:28, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

1 - SUL accounts were, I believe, established automatically (some time ago) whenever there was no name conflict. So yes, it's quite possible that chihin.chong has a SUL.

2 Why are you still logging on (anywhere) as chihin.chong? (If you want to avoid doing this mistakenly, you can always change your password to something you don't write down and won't remember; then you won't be able to logon mistakenly.)

3 To establish a "Jcc" account on another language Wikipedia, you do NOT have to logon with your old userid - you can just go ahead and logon with your new user name - that's why SUL was created. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 18:44, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

As an reply:

1. Thanks for that information!

2. Because when I crosswiki, Jcc can't be loginned (because I don't "own that Jcc), and such Chihin.chong is used instead. I'll try not to do that again, if my memory allows!

3. Whoops. Big whoops. That was the problem as I (mistakenly) believed that to edit the change username page I should login first as Chihin.chong.

I suppose that since my other crosswiki Chihin.chong's can't be deleted, I'll have to live with my stupidity. jcc (tea and biscuits) 19:41, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

2: One way to deal with this might be to change the appearance of the en.wikipedia skin for the chihin.chong logon. If, for example, in Preferences, you set your skin to monobook [see the Appearances tab; you might still be on that anyway] and then, in the Gadgets tab, you selected "Use a black background with green text on the Monobook", I can pretty much guarantee that you'd realize that something was different.

3: You can (effectively) delete a user account by (a) moving all edits to a new account; (b) getting an admin to delete old user pages (which are redirects). But it seems like a lot of effort if multiple language Wikipedias are involved. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 20:17, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

JEHOVAH WITNESSES

Having read your article on Jehovah's Witnesses and noted many errors, the one that I would really like to point out is the statement about their supposed current president. "Since 2000, Dan A Adams not a member of the Governing Body". This person has NEVER EVER been the president and is very much alive. ALL presidents are members of The Governing Body and remain so until their death. They never ever retire. This can be verified by looking on page 2 of EVERY edition of "The Watchtower" as well as other publications that are printed. signed 194.46.226.156 (talk) 09:50, 29 May 2013 (UTC) A Jehovah's Witness since year 1974.

I looked at page 2 of recent editions at http://www.jw.org/en/publications/. They said no such thing. See Don Alden Adams#Watch Tower presidency. Lots of sources say he is president of the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania. See for example the Google search Adams president Watch Tower. Who do you claim is president and what is your source? PrimeHunter (talk) 11:40, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Edit the article, citing a reliable source, or discuss on the article's talk page (. Robert McClenon (talk) 11:41, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Pages in category "Pages with incorrect ref formatting"

What's wrong with Paul Bronsart von Schellendorff, Julius von Verdy du Vernois, Josias von Heeringen, Albrecht von Roon? --Frze (talk) 09:53, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

I've fixed a problem in Template:Prussian Ministers of War. -- John of Reading (talk) 10:01, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. Albrecht von Roon and Gerhard von Scharnhorst always appear in "Pages with incorrect ref formatting". What's wrong? --Frze (talk) 11:03, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Not sure! But I've done a null edit to both articles and a purge of the category, and that seems to have fixed it. -- John of Reading (talk) 11:14, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Now it's o.k. --Frze (talk) 11:31, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Cleanup Barnstar
		For your efforts in tackling Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting -- John of Reading (talk) 11:17, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks a lot! Have a nice day! --Frze (talk) 11:34, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Confirm arrival at hotel

Что я должна написать на сайте,чтобы подтвердить свой приезд в Отель? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Volha Lazuko (talk • contribs) 10:06, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

A Google translation of your post says "What should I write on the site to confirm your arrival at hotel".

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 4 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:10, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Pl intreduce direct fligh to chicago from Bangalore international airport at least once in 7 days or once in month which helps for old.&first. traveler

Please introduce drict flight to chicago from Bangalore international airport at least once in 7 days or once inmonth which will help for old people or first Traveler to chicago. That is chq in chq out should be From Bangalore. arrange to help people from different Terminals at different stages.When Bangalore is consider Hub of Techi — Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.92.160.141 (talk) 10:43, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 4 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. -- John of Reading (talk) 10:49, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Copy and Pasteing on the Ipad

I want to write an article but I need to copy and paste links/foreign text etc etc. When I go onto the 'edit' section on Wikipedia, I can copy text on my ipad but it will not let me paste on the wikipedia article edit 'box'. How can I do this, if I can do this at all? Thanks guys. --BilliardBallForAll (talk) 15:15, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

The problem almost certainly isn't with Wikipedia, but more likely with the iPad software, or how you're using it. Here is a step-by-step procedure on how to copy and paste text between applications, if you're using two different ones. Does that help? If not, what specifically is different in your situation? -- John Broughton (♫♫) 18:19, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

It is possible to edit with copy/paste on an iPad. I've done it. Check the link above and if you have any questions, post either here or at the Computers Reference Desk. Or post to my talk page and I'll try to help you. Dismas|^(talk) 21:47, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Current Squad of Nigeria National Cricket Team

Please refer to the Current Squad of Nigeria National Cricket Team on Wikipedia. The Team posted is from the 2011 WCL-6 Championship. It requires to be Updated and need to post the Team from the 2013 WCL-7 Championship. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.249.143.42 (talk) 15:32, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Done, but you could have done it yourself. Rojomoke (talk) 16:21, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Resolved

Saint Joseph Missouri womens roller derby league info

In Saint Joseph there is 4 wommens roller derby teams. The Danger Dolls, the venumious vicsons, the Jesse Janes and the Rushin Rolletts. One of the most popular players in this league is a girl names Hott-ness Monster. And plays for the Danger Dolls. ( my spelling is kinda bad with the teams but I think this would be very interesting to add to the info for the Saint Joseph missouri womens roller derby league. I know the league would greatly apprecate the extra info to be added. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.166.80.210 (talk) 16:12, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

I very much doubt that the teams would merit an article under the Wikipedia:Notability (sports) guidelines, and if they did, any content would have to be based on published reliable sources, rather than contributor's personal knowledge. AndyTheGrump (talk) 16:25, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Urgent: The Estonian Wikipedia needs intervention now

I understand that the Estonian language Wikipedia has virtually nothing to do with the English language one, but I ask that all Sysops/Admins read this statement. As the English wikipedia is the largest Wikipedia edition , with the most edits/pages 4m edits vs 100k edits on our enclyclopedia, I ask on all English Wikipedia Admins/Sysops and even regular editors to respond to this crisis immediatly.

Let me start off by saying, I am not an admin on the Estonian Wikipedia, I am more of a 'WikiGnome' repairing odds and edds. I am a humble editor on occasion. But I am very worried at the state of the encyclopedia and the way it is going. This is a crisis and there are not enough Sysops/Admins on the Estojnian version of Wikipedia to address this.

Firstly, the poor state of the articles written on the Estonian Wikipedia is horrible. The grammar is wrong on 60-70% of all articles and the verbs are wrong too In many cases, vandalism people often jumble up words on pages and there are not enough active users to correct these, leaving a backlog.

We have suffered at least 15 mass vandalism attacks with IP address coming from Secondary Schools in Estonia and in Finland. These attacks have affected thousands of articles and we do not have the manpower to correct this. If a Estonian reader was to read Wikipedia, he/she would immediatly use another source.

We have also suffered some cyber attacks on admin pages, that need to be repaired. There is lack of software to correct these errors. We have had some help from Finnish and Russian wikipedia users to repair these but not enough. Please I appeal to you to send your Wikipedians to help the Estonian Wikipedia, I honestly see the Estonian Wikipedia not making it till 2014 unless something is done.

Thank You. --Saarnfeliffe (talk) 16:54, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

I don't know if the software can do it easily but you may wish to semi-protect every article for a short period. This may hit the media and create a batch of new users to help fix it. Just my thoughts though.--Canoe1967 (talk) 17:03, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

This link might be helpful: Category:User et.—Wavelength (talk) 17:10, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Would this be possible to mention this in The Signpost or similar? Thank You for the above two answers. Can I get an admin to semi protect every Estonian Wikipedia ? Perhaps we need some sort of 'internal' media representation about this. Thank You. --Saarnfeliffe (talk) 17:21, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

I have posted a message at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Estonia, linking to this discussion.

—Wavelength (talk) 17:53, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

You should re-post this message at m:Stewards noticeboard. Ruslik_Zero 18:47, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

et:Special:Statistics shows the Estonian Wikipedia has 37 administrator accounts and 2 bureaucrats. User:Saarnfeliffe was created today at both the English and Estonian Wikipedia, has already been checkuserblocked here, and hasn't participated in any discussions at the Estonian Wikipedia. I don't know how things are running there but I wouldn't run around warning people that the sky is falling based on this report. A Wikipedia with more than 100,000 articles isn't going to close in 2014. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:31, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Iranian presidential election, 2013

Hi! I have a question about article Iranian presidential election, 2013. Only 3 out of 8 candidates have announced their official color of the campaign. Two others have unofficial references and others may not announced any color for the campaign. We must use their official color in the election inbox or not? If yes, when a candidate don't announced anything what we must do? Thanks for your help. Tabarez (talk) 18:06, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Can you say to me what's the main for the colors in the inbox of elections? Tabarez (talk) 18:43, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Aircraft history of the 196 FIS Calif ANG

Two aircraft types of the 196 FIS is not correct Where it shows F-86F, it should show F-86D for that time period, and where it shows F-86H, for that time period, it should show F-86L type aircraft. I was a pilot in the unit from 1957 until 1973. Thank you. Maj. Melvin E. Younker Ret. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.217.50.1 (talk) 18:20, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

The problem is that we need published sources. Your personal recollection, strange as it may seem, is not usable here, as it is not verifiable. --Orange Mike | Talk 18:30, 29 May 2013 (UTC) (president of a AFSCME local that includes the security officers at an ANG base)

Dirk Yates page removed in error.

Hello,

I believe the Dirk Yates page was taken down in error. He is a notable director and producer who has made 100s of films during his career. He has been featured on CNN and his Private Collection films made national headlines. Is it possible to turn this page back on, or figure out why is was taken down so it can be prevented in the future? — Preceding unsigned comment added by DavidC1R (talk • contribs) 19:10, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

The deletion log at Dirk Yates (click on it even though it is a redlink) shows that it was a copyright violation, thus it had to be deleted. It can be prevented by not copying directly from other publications. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 20:07, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

You might be able to get a copy of that deleted page, if you plan to personally improve the article (specifically, by rewriting everything so that it is mostly based on reliable sources). If you plan to do this, ask an admin for help. But keep in mind that there is no way, as Roger has said, that Wikipedia can accept text that is (for example) simply copied and pasted from a website - that is a copyright violation. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 20:27, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

And we won't provide people with copies of articles which had been deleted as copyright violations, since that would compound the violation. --Orange Mike | Talk 20:32, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

(e/c x2) David, since you are interested in this individual (and if he is indeed notable) maybe you should be bold and write the article on him. That's how all of our content came to be: someone interested, seeing a gap, and filling it. If you want to take on that project, I would start at the Wikipedia:Tutorial, then look at Wikipedia:Your first article. and Wikipedia:How to write a great article and then write it through the article wizard. If you make a start, drop me a note and I'll help. After writing the preceding text, I looked him up. I now see there's a great (or awful) unintended double entendre in my post! One more page to look at actually. See WP:PORNBIO. Sidenote @ John: we do not undelete or provide copies of copyvios ever.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 20:33, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

I want to create a Venn diagram

I want to create a Venn diagram for a certain article to visualize a complex relationship between various things. What's the best way to go about this on Wikipedia?68.227.174.198 (talk) 21:22, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

You would make it offline as an image using whatever program you are familiar with, e.g. GIMP, and then upload it to the Wikimedia Commons under a free copyright license (or release it into the public domain). You will need to sign up for an account there (which takes about one minute). As an example, see File:Venn diagram gr la ru.svg. Once uploaded, you can use the image here natively. To do so you would add [[File:File name.jpg|thumb|Caption text]] to the area of the article where you want the image to appear – replacing File name.jpg with the actual file name of the image, and Caption text with a short description of the image. See our picture tutorial for more information.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 21:43, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

22 Year Old Timestamp?

Unsure whether to post this at the Technical helpdesk or here, but here I am. I was commenting on the talk page of Tree throw as I had something to say about it (I was a tree surgeon for 40+ years!) , and my timestamp dated 1991, not 2013. Perhaps a technical error but just thought I would let you guys know. --Battleby (talk) 21:44, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Battelby: One minute after you posted at Talk:Tree throw with the time stamp accompanying your signature working perfectly, your account made a second edit, changing the date from 2013 to 1991. You can see this in this diff. I am not sure how this could not have been a purposeful edit by you – maybe someone in your household monkeying around? but I don't believe there is any problem on Wikipedia's end of things.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 21:53, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Okay thanks, must be my grandson messing around ! F*cking grandkids! --Battleby (talk) 22:00, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Kiara Belen

Please remove the bio for Kiara Belen and replace with the following information. I am her publicist of record and would like to have this information locked so that it may not be changed.

Kiara Nativity Belen was born in New Jersey, but moved to Las Vegas with her family early in her teens. She was the oldest of seven children and often found herself their protector for her siblings. <content removed per WP:BLP> Devastated, but not defeated, Kiara was driven to fight; she was determined to show that she, Kiara, is a warrior! Kiara decided to focus on creating a positive life for herself. She began working out and playing basketball. This paid off because she was offered, and she accepted a full scholarship to play basketball at UC Irvine. At the end of four years, Kiara was the star shooting guard and captain of the team! Kiara had only just begun to explore where her talents could take her in this world. Kiara has taken the world by storm in the pursuit of her dreams. Millions of young girls have been, and will be, inspired through hopelessness by watching her unstoppable climb to the top! Many listened to her blow the judges away with her amazing voice in an Alicia Keys singing contest. She won! She also appeared in Tyler Perry’s “Love Thy Neighbor.” “America’s Next Top Model” selected her as a contestant for the show, and she was the runner-up for cycle nineteen of the show. Kiara has not held back! Kiara is currently working on her own clothing line. Of all her accomplishments, she remains humble and always remembers from whence she has come. To give back, she supports “Children Uniting Nations,” a non-profit organization that lends itself to the livelihood of foster children. Through her love for life, she continues to let her light shine because she, Kiara Nativity Belen, is a champion! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:C5A4:ADA0:8CD2:740F:C1F1:509B (talk) 21:49, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Kiara Belen (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Adding link for other people's ease. Dismas|^(talk) 21:52, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

The write-up you have suggested does not meet our standards for neutral point of view, references, or encyclopedic style. You would also be discouraged from writing the article as you have a conflict of interest in the matter. We also do not lock articles, except in extreme cases. You might like to add some specific referenced facts on the article's talk page and ask the article editors to incorporate them. Rmhermen (talk) 22:07, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

(e/c) Hi Dayna. We will not do this for a number of reasons. First, the text you wish to post is extremely promotional in both content and tone. Articles must be written from a neutral point of view and should not contain promotional language. This content also has no sources to verify it, which is especially important in an article on a living person. Third, under the policy I just linked, contentious material about living persons may not be included without high quality sourcing, and this statement contains negative content about a family member (which I have removed). Fourth, the existing content should not be simply removed, though it can be supplemented with additional material, or have incorrect statements removed.

What I suggest is that you go to the talk page of the article (Talk:Kiara Belen) and post what facts you think should be added, providing a reliable source that verifies each fact. As her publicist, you should be very cognizant of where material is published. Also, you can state there any corrections or other types of modifications you propose. Finally, please note that subjects of articles do no own them and in fact, we advise people who are closely associated with the subject of articles to avoid editing them directly because of the conflict of interest present between the ideal of producing a neutral encyclopedia, verses the desire to promote (and often whitewash any negativity) by people writing about themselves and people with whom they are closely connected. We do not lock down articles, except to stop excessive vandalism, and occasionally for other reasons, and articles are always subject to change. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:15, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

It happened again.. This time a 32 year old timestamp

It happened on the Vriesea 'You Beaut' talk page. Sort it out Wikipedia !! It aint 1981 you know! --Battleby (talk) 22:04, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

The edits by your account can be seen by clicking "diff" at Special:Contributions/Battleby. Just like before, the time stamp was saved correctly and then changed in new edits. Stop this now. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:11, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Someone using your account is falsifying dates. You are the only one who can sort it out. Maproom (talk) 22:21, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Nope, no way. He's given himself away. Look at the last response. Battleby: I am very close to blocking you from further editing. I am sure the lulz are wonderful (and I just bet you know what that means and have no grandchildren, since these are the pranks of a child). Go do something useful or you will not be editing much longer.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk)

User blocked by Legoktm--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:29, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Melatonin

I am currently a medical student and also a neuroscience major with 4 years of research experience in neurobiology- specifically tumors of the brain.

I am no expert, but I am knowledgeable enough to determine when there is clear bias regarding a particular drug.

In this case, the wiki article on Melatonin is rife with significant problems. Normally, this wouldn't need a serious complaint- but many students and individuals may come across this article (even when they should know better) and use its information to determine whether they should take melatonin.

The available information on the safety and efficacy of melatonin is sparse at best. The evidence that is there is neither supportive nor necessarily detrimental towards melatonin use. However, there is concerning evidence- enough for the FDA to issue a warning (but not widely available to read) about the dangers of Melatonin.

The wiki article glosses over these issues and gives a very biased yet science based promotion of the drug. There is a strong chance that the persons involved may have some ties to Melatonin sales and marketing.

Even if they do not, the tone of the article is far too biased in favor of Melatonin.

Why is this an issue? Because physicians do not enough about Melatonin other than to not recommend it because it is a hormone. But many people chose to take this drug anway-ignoring the potential harm it may cause. I strongly urge you to reformat the article and ascertain a better approach to presenting the information.

A disclaimer stating that Melatonin's long term harm has not been ascertained would be a good way to start.

Please take this seriously.

Thank you.

Concerned citizen. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.80.245.161 (talk) 22:14, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

The best place to raise this would be at Talk:Melatonin. Note however that Wikipedia articles are based on published reliable sources, and that standards for sourcing of medical material are particularly strict - see WP:MEDRS. I suggest that you locate such sources as necessary, and present them at the talk page. AndyTheGrump (talk) 22:20, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

I agree with you – the page shows signs of pro-melatonin hype, done more subtly than usual. I also agree with AndyTheGrump, the best place to express your views is the article's talk page. Of course there is nothing to stop you from editing the article directly, preferably adding references as you go. I wish you success. Maproom (talk) 22:42, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Adding information about the "FDA warning" you mentioned, and citing it, is probably a good place to start. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 08:05, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

Yes Wikipedia has lots of issues. The only way this will be properly addressed is if more people edit and promote high quality neutral content. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 19:37, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

redirects for a new article

I just recently created the article for ectomycorrhiza. However, only that exact word links to the article. The plural ectomycorrhizas links to the "did you mean" page, the plural ectomycorrhizae leads to the mycorrhiza page, and the adjective ectomycorrhizal leads to the old ectomycorrhiza subheading of the mycorrhiza page. Is there a way to make various iterations of the subject name all lead to the same page, namely the main article recently created? I think that would be helpful when people search for similar terms (such as plurals and adjectival forms). Thanks in advance! Ebertar (talk) 22:32, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Fixed, I think. I added one redirect, and altered two others. Is there a difference between arbuscular mycorrhiza and ectomycorrhiza? The Mycorrhiza#Ectomycorrhiza section currently links to the former. Maproom (talk) 22:52, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Yes, you intuited a feature of the software we could not live without. We have 4.2 million articles and about 5.9 million "redirects" to them from alternate names, pluralizations, common misspellings, etc. See Wikipedia:redirect for more information. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:05, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Maproom, there is a difference, but everything looks like it links to the correct place, now. Thanks so much, that fixed exactly what I needed! And thanks for the welcome and the link, Fuhghettaboutit. That is precisely the page I was trying to find, but I kept ending up on pages teaching me simply how to link. Naturally its name would be so comically obvious. Thanks guys! Ebertar (talk) 23:21, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

interest to join the society

i am Alexander Ogbonna from Nigeria. i humbly wish to ask whether you take candidate from Nigeria west African country. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.206.12.42 (talk) 22:59, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 4 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:06, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

print size...I do not know how to enlarge Wikipedia print so it is easier to read

How do you enlarge print size so articles are easier for 70 year old eyes to read? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Danny26ini (talk • contribs) 23:18, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

My eyes are only 65 years young, but most browsers change the font size when you hold down the control key on the keyboard and roll the mouse wheel that's in between the mouse buttons. Also if you use the Contr- key with the + key. Jim.henderson (talk) 23:22, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Do you mean printing on paper? If you mean on a screen then most browsers can increase size (of both text and images) with Ctrl++, decrease with Ctrl+-, and return to normal with Ctrl+0. Your browser may also have an option to enlarge the standard text size. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:27, 29 May 2013 (UTC)