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January 7

How can I add a new word and definition to wikipedia

I have coined a new word and would like to put it on Wikipedia, along with i'ts definition. How can I do this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Caroleaudrey (talk • contribs) 00:22, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

The short answer is that you shouldn't do that. We have a content guideline WP:MADEUP which says: "Wikipedia is not for things that you and/or your friends made up. If you have invented something in school, in your university lab, your garage, or the pub, and it has not yet been featured in reliable sources, please do not write about it in Wikipedia. Write about it on your own website or blog instead. If you do, don't try to write an article based on your or your friend's website."

If reliable sources (not blogs or websites that you create, but mainstream newspapers and so on) covered the word you made up, then it would be a different story, but that's unlikely to be the case and therefore any article about the word you've made up would be quickly deleted. See WP:A11. Valenciano (talk) 00:28, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

(e/c) Hi Carol. You cannot. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, a compendium of knowledge and so it is for topics that reliable sources such as books, newspapers and magazines have already written about in detail. It should never be used to announce new things not already written about by such reliable sources. A word you coined is thus highly unsuited for an entry here. Please see also Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not#Wikipedia is not a publisher of original thought, Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not for things made up one day and WP:NEO. Thanks.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 00:31, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

@Caroleaudrey: As the two editors above me has explained, you can't. Maybe consider an alternative outlet such as http://www.urbandictionary.com/. benzband (talk) 00:39, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

Referencing errors on Poser Holocaust

Reference help requested. on the Poser Holocaust I added the source but it looks like It got messed up can you fix it please Thanks, Drayke Quinn (talk) 01:17, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

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It helps if you provide a link to the article that you'd like help with. It just makes less work for those trying to help you. The article is at Poser Holocaust.

And I've fixed your reference issue here. You may want to take future articles through the WP:AFC process to get feedback before posting an article that is likely to be deleted. Best of luck, Dismas|^(talk) 01:33, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

How to replace an existing photo in a page.

Hi,

I'm currently reviewing our page in your website. Unfortunately, I've been trying to edit the photo uploaded since its no longer updated. I tried creating an account but after which it still didn't give me the access to do so. Thank you and looking forward to your feedback. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.177.169.234 (talk) 03:34, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

I think this must be about Bank of Commerce. Maproom (talk) 05:34, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

Do you mean File:Bank of Commerce Logo.png? It looks to me like the logo http://www.bankcom.com.ph/img/boc_bnr.png currently displayed at the official website http://www.bankcom.com.ph/main.php. If you mean File:Iba,Zambalesjf9416 07.JPG then you can upload a new photo with another name and then change the file name in the article. There is no need to delete the old file completely.

Are you by any chance referring to a photo or text shown to the right of a Google search? Google's Knowledge Graph uses a wide variety of sources. There may be a text paragraph ending with "Wikipedia" to indicate that particular text was copied from Wikipedia. An image and other text before or after the Wikipedia excerpt may be from sources completely unrelated to Wikipedia. We have no control over how Google presents our information, but Google's Knowledge Graph has a "Feedback" link where anyone can mark a field as wrong. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:00, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

Audio pronouncing of words to help kids read or learn new words; do you have such a feature?

Audio pronouncing of words to help kids read or learn new words; do you have such a feature?99.224.84.172 (talk) 06:12, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

In general, no. Such a feature might be appropriate in a dictionary; less so in an encyclopedia. Particularly as English is pronounced in different ways around the world. Maproom (talk) 09:42, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia's "sister project" Wiktionary has audio pronunciations of many words. Those could be helpful. --Anon126 (talk - contribs) 00:39, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

How to create a your own page on a topic?

I really want to make my own page on wikipedia but dont know how to. can u pls help me? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kunlu005 (talk • contribs) 06:46, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

The page you need is Wikipedia:Your first article. But the page you created after posting here, Aastha Mohapatra, is very unlikely to be accepted in its current form. Blogs are not good enough reliable sources to show that a person is notable, and the third link in the "References" section leads to a page that does not mention Mohapatra anywhere. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:00, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

Nizamuddin Station

We are senior citizrnx and are trying to take a train to Chennai from Nizamuddin Station in New Delhi. Train leaves from platform No.3. We cannot claim the stairs. Is there a lift or any other facility available to reach platform No.3

Srinivasan — Preceding unsigned comment added by 120.59.78.153 (talk) 07:06, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

I think you should try to contact the station directly. I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 4 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:54, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

Trouble referencing a url

I'm trying to reference information for a wiki article I'm trying to write about Oklahoma Employees Credit Union. I found the information I need on the National Credit Union Association's website under the search but it wont give me a direct url to the information.

To see what I'm talking about, go to:

1. http://researchcu.ncua.gov/Views/creditUnionInfo.aspx 2. Type in "Oklahoma Employees."

It leads me to the information I need but I can't directly link to it.

Also, am I correct that this is a credible source? It's not a blog, a private webpage, but it's not a news article either. It's a government page.

Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by MikeLHoang (talk • contribs) 09:29, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

http://researchcu.ncua.gov/Views/creditUnionInfo.aspx redirects to http://researchcu.ncua.gov/Views/FindCreditUnions.aspx when you haven't cached a search result, so the url should be the latter. Otherwise a user with another credit union cached would see that union without being redirected to the search form. The search result says Charter Number: 65032. This is apparently the official identifier of a specific credit union so I would use that instead of a name search which might return 0, 1 or more results in the future. It's also at top of the form with a Find button right next to it. Here is a possible way to cite it with the at parameter at Template:Cite web#In-source locations: Information to be cited.

PrimeHunter (talk) 13:40, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

The source seems OK to use to source basic information on Oklahoma Employees Credit Union. I suggest using the website to source basic information only if you can't find independent, Wikipedia reliable sources to support that same information. For example, I would use this source to support the 1954 date of the credit union over the National Credit Union Association's website's "Year Chartered: 1954". -- Jreferee (talk) 15:14, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

Regarding the page : Birla Institute of Technology and Science, Pilani – Goa Campus

Birla Institute of Technology and Science, Pilani – Goa Campus (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Dear Fellow Wikipedia users,

Being an alumni, its quite unfortunate/embarrassing to see "This article appears to be written like an advertisement". I do agree that the article seems to have been written by an undergraduate freshman of the institute looking for external gratification.

That being said, the institute is indeed one of the finest in the country. I have made the necessary changes and have removed external links (username: MilindKPZ). I believe that the article seems alright now. I would be happy to make further changes, in case you feel otherwise.

I have raised a similar concern on the article talk page. Unfortunately, it has remained unnoticed.

I hope that you remove the banner “This article… advertisement”.

Yours sincerely MilindKPZ (talk) 10:49, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

PS: I have also sent an email to info-en-q <at> wikimedia.org before realising that there is a dedicated help page for it. I apologise for the duplication.

Maintenance tags are not removed automatically, they require human review. I have removed the tag but IMHO the tone of the article still needs work.--ukexpat (talk) 13:44, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

I've reviewed and added some more External links to make it better Nechlison (talk) 14:57, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

And I moved your Wikilink to a new See also section and reformatted The Times of India link.--ukexpat (talk) 17:16, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

DH SMITH - WRESTLER

Hi, Please could you tell me how to link Davey Boy Smith Jr's official website www.officialdbsmithjr.com to this Wikipedia page David Hart Smith — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nat.s.e.wood (talk • contribs) 11:28, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

I've added it under External Links Rojomoke (talk) 13:10, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

Page Name Edit

Hi all,

The page Tsogo sun incorrectly has a lowercase 's' on the word 'sun' where it actually need to be upper case. Is there any way of editing this?

KLMuller (talk) 12:57, 7 January 2014 (UTC) Karen

I've moved it to Tsogo Sun. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 13:03, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

May I request this for London commuter belt, too. 78.32.195.249 (talk) 23:02, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

Where/how does one suggest a page be protected or semi-protected?

Other than a quick read yesterday I have no interest/involvement with this page (John Hope (educator)). However, I noticed some dates recently changed to obviously incorrect dates by an anon user. Looking at the "talk" page shows that this has been a pattern.

I "undid" some recently changed dates on this page but I would like to know the proper place to suggest/request some sort of protection. Arbalest Mike (talk) 15:33, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for page protection, but John Hope (educator) has only been vandalized twice since March (counting consecutive same-IP edits as one) so a request may be declined. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:40, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

entry for "Paul Wonnacott"

Resolved

 – Nellie14 (talk) 22:09, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

Would it be possible to 1. Remove the preliminary draft which has "Nellie 14" in the title. It shows up when people "Google" Paul Wonnacott. 2. Move up the main entry for "Paul Wonnacott" so that it appears first, at the top of the page, when you "Google" his name.Nellie14 (talk) 16:10, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

Thank you.

P. S. I find Wikipedia very useful.

Nellie14 (talk) 16:10, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi Nellie, the "Nellie14" article on Wonnacott appears to be in your own userspace, so you are free to delete that by clicking EDIT at the top of that page and deleting the text! :) Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:36, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

Re 2: There is the nothing that we can do about the Google page ranking, nor should we if we could -- this is an encyclopedia not a Google popularity contest.--ukexpat (talk) 17:10, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Now that the NOINDEX "Magic word" has been added to the userspace draft, Google will no longer find it, but it may take some time before it drops it from its results. We have no control over what Google returns. You might want to move that page to User:Nellie14/Paul Wonnacott, or it can be deleted if you are done with it. To have it deleted by an admin simply add {{db-u1}} anywhere on the page, the top is good. DES ^(talk) 17:12, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

No need to move the draft anywhere as the article now exists at Paul Wonnacott, so the best thing to do is just blank the user page.--ukexpat (talk) 17:21, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

How to find out which edits have been deleted.

Hello I want to find out which of my past edits have been deleted but do not want to add every page that I contribute to my watchlist. What should I do? With edit count I can only know my edit count and deleted edits count but not which of my edits were deleted. Mr RD (talk) 17:52, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

There is a special page which lists deleted contributions for a given user (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:DeletedContributions/Mr_RD in your case) but I believe that only admins can view such pages. What is your specific purpose, Mr RD? Perhaps someone can suggest a way to achieve it. DES ^(talk) 18:01, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the information, but it is for admins only. I was asking about it as some people delete most of my edits. Mr RD (talk) 18:37, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

There is a difference between edits being deleted (which happens when the page you edited has been deleted entirely by an administrator, as with Khon Kaen MICE Tourism for example), and edits being altered by another editor after you have made them (either by using "undo", rollback or other similar tools, or by simply editing the section again). A list of the former edits is generated - for admins only - at Special:DeletedContributions/Mr_RD. As for the second, no list is generated but you can set your notification preferences to be notified if an edit of yours is changed using "undo" or rollback. Bencherlite^Talk 18:48, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

If you keep a list of links to pages you have created or significantly edited, perhaps on your user page or a sub-page in your userspace, you will be able to see if any become "redlinks", a sign that they have been deleted. Clicking on such a link will show the deletion log indicating who deleted it and why. In the case of Khon Kaen MICE Tourism, see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Khon Kaen MICE Tourism, where I notice you commented, so you were aware of the suggestion that the article (and several related articles) be deleted. DES ^(talk)

On that note do you think I should file for a review? I know some of the content might appear to be advertised in those articles and I wanted to remove that but I wanted to keep the article. All of my created articles were proposed to deletion by two guys on name of WP:NPOV without even trying to edit or remove any such content which appeared to be unnecessary. What should I do?Mr RD (talk) 20:19, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi, random editor lurking here. If you want other editors to help, you really need to lay out some specifics. Which articles do you think were incorrectly deleted? What was the content in dispute? Have you tried contacting the editors who filed the deletions? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 22:03, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

Based on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Khon Kaen MICE Tourism, I would suggest perhaps getting a mentor to help you understand what is appropriate for editing at Wikipedia rather than promotional writing. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 03:14, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Inaccurate Business Information - Loughborough Town Hall Theatre, Venue and Art Gallery

Dear Sir/Madam,

I've recently been informed by a colleague that the link below contains inaccurate information about our business. Loughborough Town Hall is a theatre venue, part of Charnwood Borough Council, which has featured an Art Gallery since April 2011. Please can you re-word the paragraph that states:-

"... Although it has no dedicated art gallery, fine pieces of sculpture can be found in the town's environs, including the ‘Sock Man’, a bronze statue celebrating Loughborough's association with the hosiery industry."

Here is the link - Loughborough.

I don't mind how it's re-worded, but the facts are:- Loughborough Town Hall opened its Art Gallery, called 'Sock Gallery', in April 2011 and features a full programme of exhibitions throughout the year, including an annual Open Exhibition. There is also a range of quality handmade British craft available for purchase.

With many thanks,

Amy Kerrigan Sock Gallery Manager [Phone # redacted] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.192.13.215 (talk) 18:17, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

While your request is clear (thanks) none of the current sources cited in the article mentions the gallery. Could you please provide a citation to one or more reliable sources for this information? And by the way the sources for the Loughborough Town Hall articel are very thin, and I am not at all sure that it is notable in the Wikipedia sense. Do you have any sources for that page? DES ^(talk) 18:46, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

Etain

Hello I clarified a statement from the Etain article and it was deleted. Since I was only explaining how she had two fathers and that there was no confusion in the story only the article, I am now concerned people are going to come away with misconceptions about the tale. She was a sidhe who had a sidhe father. She was turned into a butterfly and swallowed by a mortal. She was born to a mortal. The source is the Tochmark etain. If the original story is not a reliable source then what can I say? I have no other source to give than the correctly written account of the story. The author of the article was wrong about the heroine. She was a magical being who became mortal. All of the major action occurred while she was sidhe.

All of this comes from the Tochmark Etain. Since the article has errors and clarification is now out of the question. I do not know what I can do to make it more reliable.

I am also upset that the Marwari article is blantantly inaccurate and I am unable to correct it. I have assured the Indigienious Horse Society of India that I will continue working to get a correct history and information (Including recent scientific data) out there so people will know the truth. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bedb (talk • contribs) 22:08, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

Your edit was reverted in this edit by Materialscientist (a long established editor here). No reason was given for the revert. I suggest that in accord with the bold, revert, discuss pattern, you post on Talk:Étaín, explaining why you think your edit should be reinstated. You may need to cite passages from the original, or better, secondary critical analyses of it that interpret its meaning. Nothing should be "out of the question" -- any article can be altered to conform with sources and be improved. Citing reliable sources is often the key. Discussing matters on the article talk page is often helpful. DES ^(talk) 22:28, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

Entry for the film LADY KILLERS

Jack Warner for film LADY KILLERS Is the wrong JACK WARNER prefix:Talk:Main Page — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.192.189.206 (talk) 22:50, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

If you're referring to the article The Ladykillers, every instance of the name Jack Warner in it appears to be correctly linked to Jack Warner (actor). I can't find any instances elsewhere where the actor's name is mislinked in the context of that film; if you've found one, you'll have to explain where it is. Deor (talk) 00:44, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Which page are you posting about? It isn't mentioned in Talk:Main Page, and The Ladykillers correctly says "Jack Warner" with a link to Jack Warner (actor) all three times. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:49, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

How Do I Edit Page Name?

I need to change the name on Olivermcmillan. Currently it reads, "Olivermcmillan" but it should read "OliverMcMillan". How can that be changed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kennymoore123 (talk • contribs) 23:35, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

This is done by moving the page. Confirmed or autoconfirmed users can use the move function. I don't think you are autoconfirmed yet, so i will look into this. DES ^(talk) 23:38, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

 Done I have moved the page as requested. However the article appears to be rather overwritten and more than a bit promotional in tone. I will be cutting it down significantly. DES ^(talk) 23:44, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for changing the name for me. Once the page will be reworked a little bit to be more neutral will the top Problem with Page banner go away? Kennymoore123

Maintenance tags, such as that one, are placed and removed manually, like any part of the article text. Once the issues have been resolved, any editor can remove the tag, but if it is removed without resolving them, any editor can replace it. If you think the issues are resolved but are not sure, ask here or ask any experienced editor to look and remove if s/he thinks the issues are dealt with. Note that both I and another editor have made some edits since the move. DES ^(talk) 22:11, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Do I need to be a confimred accout to place or remove these tags? Thanks again for your help! Kennymoore123 —Preceding undated comment added 22:25, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

No, you do not. You don't even need to be logged in. But do make a good faith effort to fix any issues before removing the tags. I have seen editors make a minor change or no change at all to address a significant issue, and then remove tags, only to find the tags promptly reapplied, and themselves labeled as "disruptive editors". That is not a sequence helpful to anyone. DES ^(talk) 22:34, 8 January 2014 (UTC)