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October 30

Subject: Fwd: Armenian American - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Thank you for the opportunity to address this issue. Under your heading Notable Armenian Americans, sub-heading Military a most prominent name has been left out. General Haig Shekerjian !1905-1966) was the first Armenian American to graduate from West Point Academy. the following is written by Nanore Barsoumian. Sherkerjians papers are on record ar Hoover Instution Palo Alto CA.

"Brigadier General Haig Shekerjian is one of the highest ranking Armenian Americans ever to serve in the U.S. military, and the first cadet of Armenian parentage to graduate from the United States Military Academy at West Point, N.Y., at the turn of the last century. One hundred years later, West Point continues to attract American cadets of Armenian descent. An important figure both in U.S. military history and post-genocide relief efforts, Shekerjian’s example inspired scores of young Armenians to enlist in the U.S. army at the height of World War II. Photo from ‘United States Army in World War II: The Technical Services: The Chemical Warfare Service: Organizing for War’ by Leo P. Bropby and George J. B. Fisher, Center of Military History, United States Army, Washington, D.C.: 1989.

Shekerjian was born on June 13, 1886, in Adabazar, Izmit, Turkey. He moved to the U.S. at the age of five with his parents Hagop and Esther (Alexanian). In 1911, on his birthday, he became the first cadet of Armenian descent to graduate from the U.S. Military Academy. He graduated with a bachelor of science degree and was commissioned as second lieutenant of infantry.

From April 1916 to February 1917, Shekerjian, nicknamed “Shek,” served with the Punitive Expedition in Mexico under General John J. Pershing. During World War I, he served as assistant military attaché in Greece, and then with the Allied Armies of the Orient in the Middle East. In 1923, he was transferred to the Chemical Warfare Service and stayed with the branch for 39 years, retiring in 1946.

Shekerjian became the first Armenian American brigadier-general by order of President Franklin D. Roosevelt in 1942. (The other is Brigadier General Michael J. Tashjian, West Point class of 1948, who was deputy chief of staff, procurement, Headquarters Air Force Systems Command, Andrews Air Force Base, Md. He retired in 1976, and now resides in San Diego.) Shekerjian was appointed commanding general of the Chemical Warfare Replacement Training Center from 1942-43, after which he assumed the position of commanding general of Camp Sibert, in Alabama, from 1943-45. He then became deputy head of the Army and Navy Liquidation Commission, U.S. Middle East Theater of Operations (1945-46).

“My father told me about [Shekerjian] back in 1947, when I was applying for West Point,” recalls retired U.S. Army Lt. Col. Sarkis Semerjian, West Point Class of 1953. “He mentioned [it] after he learned [about him] during a trip he took to the Boston area. He said, ‘You know, there is an Armenian general, retired now, that went to West Point.’”

Semerjian says it is important to remember Shekerjian. “He set a tone, a precedent, for more Armenians to apply [to West Point]. I found that most people in the military are totally unfamiliar with Armenia and Armenians. This is one way of bringing [it] to their attention. Most Armenians in the military did this. Peter Mirakian did this. George Juskalian did this [Retired army colonels, both deceased]. And I did this.”

The U.S. Military Academy at West Point boasts two U.S. presidents—Ulysses S. Grant and Dwight D. Eisenhower—numerous distinguished generals, heads of foreign states, policy makers, and entrepreneurs. For Semerjian, it is important for Armenian Americans to be part of that institution, both to serve the country they now call home, and to repay an old debt—an idea that is a distant echo of Shekerjian’s words. Eleven cadets of Armenian descent were enrolled in the 2010-11 school year, and the school has two faculty members of Armenian ancestry, according to Semerjian.

In 1943, Private A. Baligian of the U.S. Army, a correspondent for the Hairenik Weekly (later renamed the Armenian Weekly), visited Camp Sibert and conducted a brief interview with Shekerjian, which appeared in the June 16, 1943 issue of the Weekly. Shekerjian spoke about his 1919 travels to Constantinople, Erzerum, Erzinga, Kars, Etchmiadzin, and Yerevan. “Having lost his parents early, he keenly regrets that he never learned the mother Armenian tongue, except a few scattered words,” wrote Baligian.

Shekerjian appeals to compatriots

That did not deter the general from remaining involved with the Armenian community. He delivered speeches at rallies and used various organs to reach out to Armenian Americans to garner support for the war effort during World War II, often referring to the heroism and sacrifice displayed during the war by Armenian Americans like Captain Albert Arabian and Lt. Ernest Dervishian. (Dervishian was awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor during World War II. Upon returning to his hometown of Richmond, Va., Dervishian was presented with a $1,000 war bond, which he selflessly returned to the city, requesting it be used to help other veterans.)

Thank you, Edw. Vasgerdsian — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.104.226.139 (talk) 00:01, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

There is currently no article Haig Shekerjian in the English-language Wikipedia. That doesn't mean that there couldn't be one; but it would bear little resemblance to the biased hagiography you posted above. --Orange Mike | Talk 00:32, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

The response above doesn't quite make it clear, but for a person to be mentioned in a section like Armenian American#Notable Armenian Americans or List of Armenian Americans#Miltary, it is normally a requirement that an article about the person already exists in Wikipedia (see the boldface sentence at the end of the lead in the latter article). Deor (talk) 10:29, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

Cambell Kenneford Wikipedia Page

Hi

My name is Cambell Kenneford, there has been a Wikipedia page made about me and I'm confused as to why it is there. I am not famous, relevant or even known. I appeared on the Mail Online and in The Sun once over 2 years ago and plan on doing no other media. I would appreciate the page being taken down because as I said before, I'm not famous or known - so the page shouldn't be there.

Here is a link to the page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambell_Kenneford Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CambellKenneford (talk • contribs) 02:36, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

I've nominated the article for deletion here. Hope that helps! --Jayron32 02:43, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

Unusual Username

I recently saw the user "2601:D:9280:2F3:74D4:29C:BA8D:2284". I've seen usernames and ip addresses, but not anything that looks like this? Do you know what this is? thanks Becky Sayles (talk) 03:26, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

It's an IPv6 IP address. So basically it's an IP (i.e. unregistered) user, just using a newer version of IP than most users. --ais523 03:58, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

Shared universe

Can anyone please take a look at the article Shared universe? It could be a decent article with enough work, but right now it is a gigantic pile of mostly unsourced WP:OR. 68.57.233.34 (talk) 11:47, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

I'd suggest that you raise your concerns on the article's talk page, preferably drawing attention to specific sections that you consider need better sourcing. Or, of course, you could try improving the article yourself: Noyster (talk), 11:27, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

Infoboxes

Is there a way to find or get a list of, for any wiki page, all the other wikis which have links in info boxes to the wiki you are interested in? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wp1648 (talk • contribs) 22:14, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

Hello, Wp1648. I find your question confusing, because (the whole of) Wikipedia is one wiki (and there are thousands of others on the internet). I'm guessing you mean "pages". There is a link "What links here" under "Tools" which links all the pages which link to this one; but I don't know of a way to limit that to pages which do so via an infobox. --ColinFine (talk) 23:59, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

External Links Removed because they seemed inappropriate.

Hello.

Earlier today I added an external link to the Carl Jung page and a handful of others related to the work of Carl Jung and Depth (Analytical) Psychology.

This was my first attempt at adding an external link.

The link I attempted to add is a link to a website devoted to the work of Carl Jung and Depth Psychology:

This is the link I attempted to add: http://jungnet.net/

If you will take a moment to look at the content of the link including using its search feature you will find it is devoted to Carl Jung's legacy and that its quality and amount of contents equals or exceed that of other external links already existing on the Carl Jung Wikipedia Page.

A short time ago I received the following email:

"Hello, I'm Loriendrew. I wanted to let you know that I removed one or more external links you added, because they seemed to be inappropriate for an encyclopedia. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page, or take a look at our guidelines about links.

You recently added the same external link to a number of pages, all of which resulted in a "page not found" error. ☾Loriendrew☽ ☏(talk) 22:46, 30 October 2014 (UTC)"

It certainly was not my intent to violate the rules and regulations of Wikipedia but I am at a loss to understand why the content of my external link would be deemed inappropriate as it is directly pertinent to the subject matter of the page and the quality of its content is in no way deficient in comparison to other external links already approved by Wikipedia.

if the issue is that I did not attach the link properly I apologize and would respectfully ask for specific instruction on how to enter the link properly and request permission to reenter the external link I attempted to post.

Your guidance in this matter will be greatly appreciated.

Thank you and best regards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Purrington (talk • contribs) 23:09, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

Hello, Purrington. Wikipedia is very sparing in the external links which it allows, other than links used as references (to reliable sources for specific statements in the text). (My understanding as to why this is is that there might be dozens, hundreds, or even thousands of websites around the net, which are "pertinent to the subject matter": putting large numbers of them in would make the article unusable, but why should this one go in rather than that other one?) The policy is explained at WP:EL. --ColinFine (talk) 00:05, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

I can understand, appreciate and accept that having the same external link posted in numerous location can legitimately be considered inappropriate. I also recognize that anyone can assert that a proposed external link is "Pertinent to the subject matter" but in this instance the link really is and all I would ask is for someone to investigate the link and thereby obtain empirical evidence as to the veracity of that assertion. I would request that I be allowed to post the external link one time and one time only. Thank you for your consideration. ~Purrington. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Purrington (talk • contribs) 02:40, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

I have looked at the link you want to add, and in my view it is not suitable for use in Wikipedia as an external link. The site does not give an authoritative and objective account of Jung and his work. Indeed, the first sentence on the main page is "There were very good reasons why the Catholic Church has carefully purified Christ and his mother from all contamination by the peccatum originate", so it is clear that the creator of the site has an agenda. But even if the site were balanced, authoritative and objective, that would not be sufficient reason for including a link to it. Maproom (talk) 07:58, 31 October 2014 (UTC)