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wikipedia says a felon is someone who was convicted who did a felony

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Some people did felonies but nobody pressed charges on them and never got them locked up.please update your definition.so it says your a felon even if u never got locked up.i was told u dont have to be locked up and not everybody is and if u plead guilty or are found guilty u were convicted even if u just paid a fine.but what if u got a traffic ticket for trespassing ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Robbiejacoby (talk • contribs) 00:34, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

If a person is not convicted, per the Biographies of Living Persons policies, we cannot say they are a felon, only accused of the crime (and then only if the accusation is reliably sourced.

How would one get a traffic ticket for trespassing? Do you mean misdemeanor citation? Ian.thomson (talk) 02:27, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

and u should say a criminal is a person who does crime

U are a criminal even if u do crime but not for a living — Preceding unsigned comment added by Robbiejacoby (talk • contribs) 00:41, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

"Innocent until proven guilty." Ian.thomson (talk) 02:28, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

I can not create a wikipedia page

I am trying to create a page, but when I try to save the page and I enter the CAPTCHA it reload, like if I write the CAPTCHA wrong (I am writting it correctly). Why does it happen? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Klonoa TDInc (talk • contribs) 02:02, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

Considering your username implies a conflict of interest, that's probably keeping you out of trouble. Ian.thomson (talk) 02:24, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

How To Request Merger Of Similar Articles

Hello ,

I found similar articles on wikipedia. 1. Wildlife Protection Act, 1972 2. Wild Life (Protection) Amendment Act, 2002

Wild life protection act 1972 article is available on wikipedia, there was an amendment in 2002 in Wild life protection act 1972.

One may say amendment which took place in 2002 (Wild Life (Protection) Amendment Act, 2002) is the part of Wild Life protection act 1972 (Wildlife Protection Act, 1972 - principal Act) and to be added in it.

How these two can be merged with each other as the amendment is part of principle act. Two write up on similar topic and again one is the amendment in the principle act - i am sure it is against the wiki policy and merger of both has been allowed. Priyadarshivishal23 (talk) 06:10, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

The procedure is outlined at Wikipedia:Merging. There should be a discussion and, if there is a merger, ultimately, one article will be chosen as the destination article and the other will become a redirect. There should be documentation when content is moved from article to the other.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 22:28, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

need to help in creating page of Veena Gupta

want to add photograph and content of the owner Seam group services, gurgaon

kindly suggest how i can proceed — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ravitondak (talk • contribs) 06:21, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

First of all, Ravitondak, if you are an employee or associate of this person of business, or a contractor, you have a conflict of interest and should not create such an article nor edit it if someone else does.

Secondly, make sure that you establish that the subject is notable. Follow our golden rule. Read Your First Article before starting to create a new article. Also read Referencing for Beginners, and perhaps citing sources. Remember that all content in any Wikipedia article should be supported by reliable sources. Notability, in Wikipedia, is derived coverage of the subject by independent reliable sources. This means no blogs, no fora, no press releases or stories that simply repeat press releases, no personal web sites. It also means no listings in directories or trivial passing mentions, but coverage of the subject in some detail.

Thirdly I advise you to use the article wizard. This will help guide you through the basic steps of creating an article, and an experienced editor will review your draft for suitability. I hope this advice is helpful. DES ^(talk) 11:00, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

Oh, Fourthly, don't worry about photographs until the article is created and has passed review. By that time you will be able to upload them. Remember that photos of living people must be released under a free license. Internet photos are usually not acceptable. DES ^(talk) 11:03, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

locator map is not working

Anyone know why? I can't figure these things out. It's a current event, which is why I'm asking here as it's more urgent: 2015 Attock bombing —Мандичка^YO 😜 07:31, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

I've fixed it. Using the {{coord}} template in an infobox will never "activate" a location map. Many infoboxes have a "pushpin map" field that, combined with the fields for latitude and longitude, will produce a location map. In that particular infobox, however, one needs to use a {{Location map}} template. Deor (talk) 13:56, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

rare photos of Australia rules footballers

I have rare photos of Australia rules footballers VFL players Essendon & VFL early 60's and late 50's It would be a good addition to the football pages, I have quite a number they came form one of the player's mothers, Jack Clarke

Robert — Preceding unsigned comment added by BSP Gallery Bookshop old and rare books (talk • contribs) 08:47, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

BSP Gallery Bookshop old and rare books, you can upload here. You must own the copyright to be able to do so. Your user name is a breach of our user name policy. Please create a new account as soon as possible, since I will block your existing one. It would be blocked already without the option to create a new account if you had make any edits promoting your shop Jimfbleak - talk to me? 10:13, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

To expand a little on the subject of copyright: in order to use the photos, the owner of the copyright (who is probably not you unless it was explicitly conveyed to you) must explicitly license the photos under a suitable Creative Commons licence. See Donating copyright materials. --ColinFine (talk) 20:25, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

undelete of IFA Paris

So someone deleted the page about our fashion school IFA Paris: Talk:IFA_Paris because supposedly we didn't provide enough sources. We worked hard to fix the issues and checking our competitors, they all have pages which are full of passages that are uncited. Don't exactly know why we became a victim of deletion. The French and Chinese version of our page still exists.

So anyhow, we would like to reinstate our page and shorten it to remove all passages where we can't find reliable sources. This article should then be fine for Wikipedia. So, the question is how do we start this process and when can we start editing the page. Can someone help us and set everything up, and undelete the page IFA_Paris ? Thanks so much in advance and looking forward to some advice and assistance. Nikki38394724 (talk) 10:57, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

The deletion discussion was at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/IFA Paris. I have changed the urls in your question to wikilinks. The French and Chinese Wikipedias have their own criteria; we have ours. Yes, there are articles about other subjects which shouldn't be here, or which contain unsourced material which should be deleted; Other stuff exists is not an argument for your article to exist when it doesn't satisfy Wikipedia's requirement for notability, as you were told at Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/IFA Paris. If at some stage in the future there is significant coverage of the school in published independent reliable sources, someone without a conflict of interest can write an article about it. --David Biddulph (talk) 11:26, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Nikki38394724, The article was deleted after a deletion discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/IFA Paris. It will not be undeleted. You chose not to participate in that discussion, although you were aware of it. You were told, several times, that what was needed were reliable independent sources. None were supplied, nor were any found by the other editors who looked into the matter.

If you want to start over, you could do so via the article wizard and the Articles for Creation project. Using that route, the new draft article would be reviewed by an experienced editor before being approved and going live.

Or you could ask to overturn the deletion at deletion review. But I am confident that there is no chance that the deletion would be overturned in this case. DES ^(talk) 11:34, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

An underlying issue here seems to be that of promotion. Please be aware, Nikki38394724, that Wikipedia may not be used for promotion of any kind. If there are independent sources about IFA Paris, then there can be an article about it. But any such article should be based almost entirely on what those sources say. Neither you nor the school will have any control whatever over the article, any hint of promotional language in it is likely to be assiduously removed, and if some reliable sources happen to say anything critical or damaging about the school, those matters should and will feature in the article. --ColinFine (talk) 20:34, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the infos. In that case, it would be best if someone neutral wrote an article about IFA Paris. I followed the instructions to request an article in the corresponding category (fashion schools), but nobody has answered in the talk page. What to do? Nikki38394724 (talk) 03:49, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

Stuck on Wikipedia space quest

Hi can anyone help me with the third mission.

It says I need to edit typos, which I've done put in the summary title, what edit I've done then save. I've done this several times and it keeps telling me to save it.

Is this a glitch or am I doing something wrong?

Thanks EmmaCook2015 (talk) 13:17, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

@EmmaCook2015: I'm not familiar with The Wikipedia Adventure but I see you have many edits since this post. Have you solved the problem? PrimeHunter (talk) 14:09, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

failing to upload my (first) photo

on the Inonotus obliquus page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tad Montgomery (talk • contribs) 16:09, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

I see the edit filter was not allowing you to add an image to the page. I have added the image for you. -- GB fan 16:15, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

Need Help

I have created the article, which is deleted many times from English Wikipedia with required references and inline citations. I request any SYSOP to move this article to main page from my userpage. Note: Already this article exists in Tamil, Malayalam and Bengali Wiki pages. I guess that provides the notability. Thanks. --Dineshkumar Ponnusamy (talk) 16:31, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

Note to HD volunteers: Article in question is Draft:Palam Kalyanasundaram Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:32, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

I see it has been submitted for review at AFC. If it is accepted there, someone will move it over the page protection for you. However, it still needs work. Claims like "He is the known first person in the world to spend the entire earnings of his life for a social cause." need a source. Also some of the awards are unsourced. Is he still alive? The article claims he donated his body and eyes; which would imply that he is dead, but the article doesn't have a date of death. The article also says he is the "founder of Palam", and it links to an article about a community, but later the article talks about a non-profit by the same name; I think the link is misdirected. Given that the article still cites some sources whose credibility was questioned at the previous AFD (namely the article from The Hindu), I'm not sure its ready for the move yet. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 17:45, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

(edit conflict)Hello Dineshkumar Ponnusamy. I took a quick look at Draft:Palam Kalyanasundaram (it has apparently been moved out of your userspace to draft space). I don't have time at the moment for a through review of the cited sources, and how reliable they are, but a number of significant claims in the article still need citations. You should understand that each language-specific Wikipedia project has its own standards for inclusion, so there being an article about Kalyanasundaram on various other editions of Wikipedia does not at all mean that such an article is acceptable here. Here our guideline on notability of biographies or the General notability guideline must be satisfied. See the golden rule for a brief summary. Please also read Your first article and referencing for beginners. They will help you format the draft properly. DES ^(talk) 17:46, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

Wherever you feel like improvement needs to be done, will do that, I do understand the principle of Wiki, I will update it. Thanks. --Dineshkumar Ponnusamy (talk) 17:50, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

Removed AFC Tag now, will update it once all these issues resolved. --Dineshkumar Ponnusamy (talk) 18:25, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

Uploading Photos

How do I upload photos to a page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dunkelnite (talk • contribs) 17:42, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

Standard reply:

• If you want to upload an image from your computer for use in an article, you must determine the proper license of the image (or whether it is in the public domain). If you know the image is public domain or copyrighted but under a suitable free-license, upload it to the Wikimedia Commons instead of here, so that all projects have access to the image (sign up). If you are unsure of the licensing status, see the file upload wizard for more information. Please also read Wikipedia's image use policy.
• If you want to add an image that has already been uploaded to Wikipedia or Wikimedia Commons, add [[File:File name.jpg|thumb|Caption text]] to the area of the article where you want the image to appear – replacing File name.jpg with the actual file name of the image, and Caption text with a short description of the image. See our picture tutorial for more information. I hope this helps.--ukexpat (talk) 18:22, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

How to create a page on wi ki pedia

How to create a page on wi ki pedia — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tariq Jamal Shamsi (talk • contribs) 18:52, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

The technical explanation of how to create a page is at Wikipedia:How to create a page. You might like to read Wikipedia:Your first article and WP:42 before creating an article, and new users may wish to use the Article wizard process. Be sure that any topics you write about are notable and cite reliable secondary sources. — Bilorv_(talk)^(c)(e) 19:34, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

wikipedia link to online drug stores

Do you know that when you try to unsubscribe to the many junk mail offers from online drugstores you are directed to random pages from wikipedia?100.34.82.7 (talk) 19:09, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

Did you know that Wikipedia has no control over, responsibility for, nor affiliation with any stores, much less online drugstores? Ian.thomson (talk) 19:21, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

We do have a Wikipedia store link under the logo... PrimeHunter (talk) 23:29, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

Economic batch quantity

This article is useless, we already have Economic order quantity and Economic production quantity. Should we delete it or "merge" it? Lbertolotti (talk) 20:47, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

This is not the place to discuss that - you can propose (WP:PROD) or nominate it for deletion (WP:AfD) or propose merge (WP:MERGE). —Мандичка^YO 😜 20:54, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

Edits by user

One of the most useful tools here is Edits by user . Unfortunately it malfunctions frequently. Can anyone here tell me how to report this? Thanks in advance, Ottawahitech (talk) 21:47, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

The maintainer can be contacted at User talk:Σ but he is already aware of the problems. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:22, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the information,@PrimeHunter. I posed the question at User talk:Σ, but it appears this is out of his hands. Just curious why there is no contact information on the error page, so that concerned editors have a way to report problems. Thanks in advance, Ottawahitech (talk) 16:21, 19 August 2015 (UTC)