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December 1

Referencing errors on Big Brother (franchise)

Reference help requested.

I don't understand what the error is here. I cited authorities for my edit and tried to insert a new footnote

27 with these cites. "There are <ref> tags on this page without content in them"??? What the heck does this mean? There is no absence of content here. Please help or explain. Using Wikipedia has become very frustrating!

Thanks, Wrc2500 (talk) 00:55, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

@Wrc2500: See the diff in your section head above: You added <ref></ref> with no content between the <ref> and the </ref>. Also you added it at the beginning of a section head (before the ==) where it wrecks the recognition of the section head. —teb728 t c 01:05, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

Also, five different references should be shown separately, which I've fixed. That's also a bit excessive. Two or at most three is more than sufficient for a relatively uncontroversial statement. Clarityfiend (talk) 01:09, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

A moving experience

I don't see a move tab on the grammatically incorrect List of displayed Boeing B-52 Stratofortress. Whazzup? Clarityfiend (talk) 00:55, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

It appears that the page was move-protected on 18 December 2011. The protecting admin appears to have been User:The Bushranger. Robert McClenon (talk) 01:14, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

You may want to post an inquiry to the protecting admin's talk page User talk:The Bushranger. Robert McClenon (talk) 01:15, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

(edit conflict) It's move protected so that only admins can move it. You think Stratofortress should be plural (cf. List of surviving Boeing B-47 Stratojets)? Since (among other moves) the article has already been moved, for obscure reasons, from List of surviving B-52 Stratofortresses to List of surviving Boeing B-52 Stratofortress by the administrator MilborneOne back in 2010, I'd advise doing a requested move on it. If the RM succeeds (I'd support it, for one), an admin will carry out the move on request. Deor (talk) 01:20, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

Ah, I can give you some of the relevant background. First see Category talk:Lists of surviving aircraft#Rename pages. There was a user very dissatisfied with these moves, and edit warring ensued resulting in the protection – the protection you see is mine; MilborneOne later moved that page and so the protection was moved to, and took his name. But why it ended up at a singular name I don't know since User talk:Fuhghettaboutit/Archive 13#List of surviving B-17 Flying Fortresses indicates plural was being used, at least for other moves.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 02:59, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. It's off to RM then, for all the Stratofortri out there. Clarityfiend (talk) 06:19, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

Canadian football

Dear editors: This draft: Draft:Quinn Magnuson appears to be about a Canadian football player. I found this information about him which leads me to believe he may be a notable player. I tried leaving a message at WT:WikiProject Canadian football, but no one has replied there for over a year. Can anyone suggest another way of getting this draft improved? What I know about football would fit on a Or should it be let go when it comes up for db-g13 deletion?—Anne Delong (talk) 02:34, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

Here is a pretty thorough bio, [1] except that it is by his future employer announcing he has joined the company. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 05:16, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

@Anne Delong: maybe go up the foodchain of projects to a more general "wikiproject:sports" -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 05:18, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

That's good idea, TheRedPenOfDoom. Thanks. —Anne Delong (talk) 12:11, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

Question about 2 Wikipedia articles

1. In Jazz_Jennings article would it be ok to say in her person life that her birth name is Jared? I found it at this article: http://starcasm.net/archives/322082 Would it also be ok to say she is on hormone blockers and estrogen? 2. In the article about the webshow Sense8 that the show is British and Canadian as wll as American because IMDB shows it company credits is Motion Picture Capital a British company and Javelin Productions which is a Canadian company shown right here: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2431438/companycredits?ref_=tt_ql_dt_5 208.181.190.136 (talk) 04:19, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

No. Neither IMBD nor Starcasm is a reliably published source with a reputation for fact checking and editorial oversight. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 05:09, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

Static headers, footers, and column text alignment

This is with respect to the table I've used at Forest cover by state in India. Is it possible/what is the best way to:

1. make only the final row (Total) unsortable (just as the header is not)?
2. make only the first column of the table centre-aligned?
3. make the header sticky? Some sites allow the header row to remain fixed to the top of the screen as the user scrolls down the page.

Thanks. --Cpt.a.haddock (talk) (please ping when replying) 11:39, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

@Cpt.a.haddock:

1.  Done, maybe it's not the only way.
2.  Done
3. don't think it's posibble in some simple way. Don't think that is also needed in this case, the table isn't so big. I think I have seen, that other users have included the headers also at the bottom of table --Edgars2007 (talk/contribs) 12:15, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

@Edgars2007: Thank you! The fix for (1) is neat! I was hoping for a cleaner solution for (2); I'm surprised that the Visual Editor does not support cell alignment. I can live without (3). Thanks again :)--Cpt.a.haddock (talk) (please ping when replying) 13:37, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

"This submission's references do not adequately show the subject's notability"

Hi! First: my english is really bad, this is, why i have almost only been worked with Hungarian-themed articles here, on en.wikipedia (by complete texts ask for help by an English-knowing friend). In the Hungarian Wikipedia have i more then ten thousand editing, so i think, i understand the rules of the general fund wikipedia. :o)

I have seen the File:Thomas_Kuhn.jpg made by Bill Pierce (photographer) and i was looking after him. I think, he is notable but i can't formulate a complete article. So i writ a really short stub with many source and potential source (this latter in the section "External links"; eg an in-depth Internet radio interview, two paper interviews + one in section References, a notable mention in a reliable, published book and some more less serious sources) → User:Fauvirt/Bill_Pierce_(photographer). I ask for help [2] User:Mz7, then i clicked on "submit your draft for review!". So now: i get yesterday:

"This submission's references do not adequately show the subject's notability—see the guidelines on the notability of people and the golden rule. Please improve the submission's referencing, so that the information is verifiable, and there is clear evidence of why the subject is notable and worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia.

What you can do: Add citations (see Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners) to secondary reliable sources that are entirely independent of the subject.

Could me help Someone? I am for, if someone think so, that in the article to edit (I hope, it is clear what i mean..). (I ping @SwisterTwister: too). Thanks! Fauvirt (talk) 12:33, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

It means that you should add more third party sources that contain non-trivial content about the subject. Ruslik_Zero 12:47, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

@Ruslik0: it is better now? Fauvirt (talk) 18:50, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

... or someone else? Or is it superfluity?... Fauvirt (talk) 08:35, 2 December 2015 (UTC)

Fauvirt I can't say for sure how much better it is. My Internet is too slow to check out the sources. But a lot of what you have would be better only after notability is established, which you may not have done. What you need are sources not connected with Pierce which also cover him in detail. A few appear to do so.

And because English does not seem to be your first language, I corrected some things that you may not have known were wrong.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 21:31, 4 December 2015 (UTC)

Referencing errors on Zelman v. Simmons-Harris

Reference help requested. I'm unsure of how to fix my errors on the Zelman v. Simmons-Harris case in the references section, if you could help me please. Thanks, Blue2433 (talk) 13:26, 1 December 2015 (UTC)Blue2433Blue2433 (talk) 13:26, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

The error messages say "Check date values in: |access-date= (help)", and the word "help" is in blue to indicate that it is a wikilink, in this case to Help:CS1 errors#bad date. --David Biddulph (talk) 13:31, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

free images

How can I use the photos that are in the free images in "How to improve your article" section? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sloansabbith (talk • contribs)

@Sloansabbith: The "free images" link made by {{AFC submission}} is just a Google search of Internet images which appear to have a license that allows upload and use here. Assuming the license is acceptable, the images still have to be uploaded like all other images before they can be used. See Help:Introduction to images (WM). PrimeHunter (talk) 17:27, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

Interwiki image links

It seems the interwiki image links don't work anymore. I'm trying to add the images [3], [4], and [5] to the relevant sections in Tele 5. There was a time when I could do this by simply changing Datei: to File:, but this doesn't work anymore. --2003:71:4E07:3E42:1D36:BDC7:DD5C:24BF (talk) 16:39, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

It probably worked for you in the past because the files happened to be hosted at Wikimedia Commons. But those files don't appear to be. It looks like they are only hosted at the German Wikipedia. You can't use files from other languages on the English Wikipedia. If they're hosted by a specific language, they can only be used at that language.

Those images could possibly be moved to Commons but my German isn't good enough to say that for certain. Dismas|^(talk) 16:44, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

Your second image File:Tele 5 Logo 1992.svg is at Commons (using commons:Template:PD-textlogo) so it can be displayed here. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:11, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

Thank you. It's just sad that the only logo I can implement is the ugliest one from when the channel's original incarnation was already scheduled for closure. --2003:71:4E07:3E42:1D36:BDC7:DD5C:24BF (talk) 17:21, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

Does this username look inappropriate?

This username (2 edits-vandalism) - User:showmeyourgenitals seems like it violates the offensive username policy, but I am not sure. Does anyone with more experience think this is the case? (They will prob. get blocked anyway for vandalism.) Thanks BlAcKhAt9(9 (talk) 17:53, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

The name is clearly intended to be offensive. Maproom (talk) 20:25, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

UPDATE - Moot question now, admin has hardblocked (bacause of name). Thanks to User:Maproom for commenting. BlAcKhAt9(9 (talk) 21:43, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

donate to Wikipedia?

Hi, I would like to donate money to Wikipedia, but am unable to find the money donation page. Thank you, Joyce Kirk50.46.114.240 (talk) 18:24, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

In the upper left corner of this page, just under the Wikipedia globe, the sixth item down is "Donate to Wikipedia". Thank you. Rwessel (talk) 18:48, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

I'm an actress and do not have a Wikipedia page. I would like one. How do I do that?

How do I start my own entry? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dinapearlman (talk • contribs)

1) You don't. See Wikipedia:Conflict of interest, which states that a person is discouraged from creating any article about themselves at Wikipedia.

2) It's possible that no article may be written about you. Since I don't know who you are, I have no way to read about you outside of Wikipedia. In order for an article to be created at Wikipedia there needs to exist the proper amount of reliable, independent source material. For example, George Washington has an article at Wikipedia because people who are not George Washington, not paid by George Washington, and who have no direct connection to George Washington have researched his life and written about him. If that is true about you, eventually, someone who you don't know will eventually create a Wikipedia article about you. If no one has written about your life and your work extensively, then it is likely no article will ever be created about you.

Hope that helps. --Jayron32 19:57, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Notability (people)#Entertainers for a relevant guideline here. The post was unsigned but I have added it was posted by User:Dinapearlman, so I guess her name is Dina Pearlman. There is an actress by that name: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0669109/. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:17, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

Jayron32 made two important points above – but I'd like to add one more:

0) (Yes, ZERO!) There is no such thing like your own entry in Wikipedia. At best it could be a Wikipedia entry about you. See, please, WP:OWN.

Additionally, writing an article about yourself is highly discouraged in Wikipedia. If you you think you are notable enough to be described in Wikipedia (see WP:Notability), you may propose such article in WP:AFC. For more explanations and guidelines see Wikipedia:Autobiography. --CiaPan (talk) 21:21, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

How best to mitigate the possibility of circular referencing

I recently discovered Markus Hess, an almost completely unsourced BLP. I started to try to find sources for the material in the article, but have encountered a major issue. The article has existed since May 2005, and in that time it has evidently been used as a source by journalists. Some digging has revealed that the details that these journalists used from the article were incorrect, as I outline here. What is it best to do in this situation? I'm struggling to think of ways to easily differentiate between sources that are reliable and sources that may have drawn on the Wikipedia article. Cordless Larry (talk) 20:19, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

Use only sources that are older than the article. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 22:13, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

Yes, that's what I've been doing since posting this message. Most of them are from the time of the hacking incident in the late 1980s and early 1990s, so access isn't that easy. Cordless Larry (talk) 22:22, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

Jin Shin Do

The current article contains many falsehoods & inaccuracies. Please replace it with this well-researched, accurate article:

<@Dodger67: copyvio removed> 72.168.145.95 (talk) 21:46, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

No. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 22:11, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

Please understand that Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously. If the article has falsehoods or inaccuracies, you may discuss them at Talk: Jin Shin Do or may fix them, being careful to use your own words and not copyrighted words. Robert McClenon (talk) 01:55, 2 December 2015 (UTC)

name change for Autry National Center

Would like to change "Autry National Center" title (Autry National Center) to its new name "Autry Museum of the American West".

References

71.31.129.234 (talk) 21:50, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

 Done. Article moved Deor (talk) 22:12, 1 December 2015 (UTC)