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good morning im emailing to see how do I make a page on this site .im PhD physicist with ground breaking work within the medical field I am the only medical doctor o physics in the uk so people need to know about me and my life saving work thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vanglenn (talkcontribs) 01:35, 25 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Vanglenn: Basically, you dont. Wikipedia is not a place to publish your original ideas nor to utilize as an advertising platform. When/If third party reliable sources have discussed your new idea in depth it may qualify as an article subject, but even then because of your close connection, you shouldnt be directly involved in creating or editing it. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 01:40, 25 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict) Wikipedia is not the place for making autobiographies, see WP:AUTO, and also not the place to publish your original research, see WP:OR If nobody has created an article about you, it is likely that you aren't notable enough for Wikipedia- we require evidence of significant, independent coverage from reliable sources, per WP:GNG and WP:BIO. However, if you believe that you are notable, then Wikipedia: Article Wizard gives step-by-step guidance on creating a draft article, which can be submitted via WP:AFC for review. Joseph2302 (talk) 01:44, 25 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Notability of late medieval MPs

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Pages that list historic MPs like this; Lincolnshire (UK Parliament constituency) provide links to each MP no matter whether a page for them exists or not. Should there really be pages for each and every MP? When you get to the early ones information is scarce to find (although perhaps that is a reason for them having a page?) so the page is never going to be comprehensive, with probably just a a few sketchy details. Thanks. Sliven2000 (talk) 07:40, 25 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The answer is yes. The reason why is WP:REDLINK - X201 (talk) 09:40, 25 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
In terms of encouraging more content the answer is definitely yes but still not 100% sure about what it says re. "Articles should not have red links to topics that do not warrant an article". Some MPs did something notable, a lot may have just turned up and slept through their term, i.e. some MPs were not noteable apart from being an MP. Sliven2000 (talk) 20:48, 25 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
An elected MP is automatically notable per WP:NPOLITICIAN. Joseph2302 (talk) 20:55, 25 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Per WP:POLITICIAN: "(People are likely to be notable if they meet any of the following standards...) Politicians and judges who have held international, national or sub-national (statewide/provincewide) office, and members or former members of a national, state or provincial legislature. This also applies to persons who have been elected to such offices but have not yet assumed them." In practice we seem to regard anyone holding national office as being inherently notable. Rwessel (talk) 20:59, 25 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
All true, but that guideline is not really designed for a person who held legislative office in say the 1300s to 1600s, when the chance of their being sources is not nearly as hgh. Many MPs even at that time were celarly notable and articles about them have been written, but ones not mentioned in surviving sources may be forever redlinks, and perhaps should not n linked. DES (talk) 00:45, 26 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
In the case I am thinking of they were more of a soldier than an MP, taking part in the Anglo-Norman invasion of Scotland under the Prince of Wales (not Charles!), being made a Knight of the Bath at the Feast of the Swans, taking part in the Dunstable Tournament, Commissioner of the Peace, etc., and being a strong contender to be "the Knight of Norham Castle" who is thought to be the original inspiration for Walter Scott's poem, Marmion. I was toying with the idea of making a combined page for the "Knight of Norham Castle" and the MP but think there is enough grounds to keep them as separate (but linked) articles. This keeps some distance between them to make clear that it is unproven that the two men were the same. Does this sound reasonable? Sliven2000 (talk) 06:47, 26 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I concur: keep them separate, but mention in both the articles the hypothesis that they may have been the same. As to the original question: I feel very strongly that all members of the Mother of Parliaments are even more than ordinarily notable. --Orange Mike | Talk 23:13, 26 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Ok. Thanks all; separate pages it is then, Sliven2000 (talk) 06:53, 27 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

INQUIRY TO ADD INFORMATION ABOUT KISUMU CITY

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I would like to add information about various shopping malls and their specific locations within the city. Is this possible? and to what extent should I go without violating your terms and condition?Megaproperties (talk) 09:27, 25 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Megaproperties: Wikipedia is not a directory or business listing. In order to be listed, a subject must first be notable enough for inclusion. For a mall, WP:CORP might be the closest to a specific set of notability requirements. In general, malls are seldom notable enough for an article. In general, places must have been written or reported about by reliable and independent sources. Also, if you have a professional connection to these malls, then you have a conflict of interest and may find it hard to write a neutral article without any promotional language. Dismas|(talk) 10:37, 25 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Remember: Wikipedia is not a directory, nor a guidebook, but rather an encyclopedia; a catalog of the sort you describe has no place in an encyclopedia. --Orange Mike | Talk 23:15, 26 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

My Wiki Page

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronn_Torossian

My Wikipedia page is continually being edited with false information and non-links. Discuss it on talk page endlessly and cannot get help. Please assist. Ronn Torossian 165.254.85.130 (talk) 10:20, 25 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Stop WP:FORUMSHOPPING, this is already being discussed at WP:ANI. I also believe that Ronn Torossian has been banned from Wikipedia for repeated sock/meatpuppetry. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:25, 25 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Dear Help Desk

I have created a page in Wikipedia on the historian Anthony Randolph Bridbury. However, the name of the page is displaying as Anthony Randolph (economist). How can I correct this error? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cameron stewart barnes (talkcontribs) 10:51, 25 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Cameron stewart barnes: There is already an article at Anthony Randolph, which was why the "(economist)" was added. You could move it (see WP:RM), but cannot move it to Anthony Randolph, as another article exists- you could move it to Anthony Randolph Bridbury, which seems like a better name. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:59, 25 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I added a hatnote to Anthony Randolph. — Jeraphine Gryphon (talk) 11:19, 25 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, he seems most widely published and referred to as A. R. Bridbury so I have moved the article there. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 11:25, 25 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Old drafts

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Is there any way to find the oldest pages in the Draft namespace? (I mean the entire namespace, tagged or untagged pages.) :/ — Jeraphine Gryphon (talk) 11:15, 25 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure this is the right place to ask, but try WP:VPT.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 18:55, 27 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I did figure out how to find when the Draft namespace was created. It was around December 2013. That doesn't really help much.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 19:37, 27 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks to incorrect advice given in The Teahouse, I can say that draft space replaced the article incubator in January 2014.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 20:30, 27 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

What can we do for overlooked articles?

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An article about a rather notable subject isn’t getting nearly the attention it deserves, with nearly all recent edits being infrequent IP vandalism or ineptitude. What’s the best way(s) to call more editors’ attention to such an article? —174.141.182.82 (talk) 12:15, 25 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

If I may assume you're referring to The Walking Dead (comic book), I think a majority of editors would consider it, as pop culture, relatively insignificant in the larger scheme of things, and that's why it's not getting the attention you feel it deserves. It has 183 watchers, but I guess the active ones are mostly readers who don't edit. As to your specific question, I don't know of a way to "advertise" an article. ―Mandruss  12:30, 25 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
You can become part of a Wikiproject and let them know about the article. If it is the Walking Dead comic as suggested above Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Comics would be a good place to start. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 13:43, 25 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
And if the vandalism is particularly persistent, rampant or of particularly inappropriate nature (such as violations of our policies about living people) you can request the page be protected at WP:RPP (although that would also mean that you as an IP editor would not be able to edit and you would need to create an account - which is free, easy and more anonymous than your IP. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 13:46, 25 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The page heading does not correspond to the page title?

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In the web browser, in the tab area where it says the title of the page, this article is labeled as "temperature" instead of "Curie temperature." I don't know how to fix this. Any help is appreciated, thanks.

Curie temperature StainlessSteelScorpion (talk) 13:43, 25 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@StainlessSteelScorpion: What is your browser and your language setting at Special:Preferences? For me in Firefox with English in preferences it says "Curie temperature - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" (only the beginning is visible on a browser tab). This is what most browsers will probably display, since the generated html contains <title>Curie temperature - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia</title>. <title>...</title> is mentioned at the end of HTML element#Document head elements. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:35, 25 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Strange: after closing a few tabs, the "Curie" came into view. I use Safari and English. When I open more tabs again, it still says Curie, and cuts of the "the free encyclopedia" stuff instead. Must be a glitch with Safari. StainlessSteelScorpion (talk) 13:43, 25 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, that sounds like a browser glitch. I guess it displayed the start when the tab was originally opened but the tab was later narrowed and/or moved when more tabs were opened, and Safari displayed the wrong part. The full title should be visible when you hover over the tab. If you have a lot of tabs then the right end may have a ">>" icon you can click to show all full titles at the same time. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:55, 25 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

confirmation code invalid

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It keeps saying my confirmation code is invalid. What should i do? Could u please fix it!? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stasia Bollinger (talkcontribs) 14:44, 25 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry, Stasia Bollinger, Wikipedia hasn't got any mind-readers. What are you trying to do when it (whatever "it" is in this instance) keeps saying this? --ColinFine (talk) 15:17, 25 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I guess you are trying to confirm an email address by clicking a link in a mail. Some email programs may break the confirmation link into two lines or not use the whole link when you click it. If that happens, please copy all parts of the link together into the browser address bar. You can also request a new mail at Special:ConfirmEmail. Note that it's optional to give an email address and most users never or rarely use email. You can edit just fine without it, but if you forget your password then you will need a working email address. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:26, 25 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Login problems

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Need to login in to my talktalk acount but can't remember my gmail or password then I signed up is there any other way off login — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.183.128.76 (talk) 16:52, 25 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This is not talktalk so I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 4 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. —teb728 t c 18:04, 25 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Memorial Day flags

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Memorial Day, I'm a veteran and just walked through a cemetary in Santa Monica on Pico and 14 th st.and seen 200 about free masons graves all had the US flag, I thought only veterans got a flag. by the way I just found out today that Memorial Day was started by free slaves, maybe they should get the free flag? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 23.242.201.214 (talk) 23:18, 25 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

this is a page to ask questions about how to use Wikipedia. Do you have such a question?
If you have questions about the Memorial Day history or flag etiquette you can go to the reference desk -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 23:56, 25 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

CHANGE EMAIL ADDRESS

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I am terribly sorry but I have to change my email address because I am changing my ISP provider. I have searched and searched and cannot seem to find the area I can do this change.. I will remain open here until I receive a message up in my box directing me if you could so that I can change this and finalize my email business with Westnet ISP Thank you Mary Ellen ( Mezza Rabble) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.182.160.95 (talk) 23:35, 25 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Please click here to access your Preferences, then choose Email options and Change email address. Dwpaul Talk 23:40, 25 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Also please note that you must log in to your Wikipedia account in order to edit your preferences. Part of the reason you didn't see an option to change your email address at the time you left your message above is that you were not logged in to your account. Dwpaul Talk 00:00, 26 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]