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video

I would like to know that which format does the video upload in wikipedia supports. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anish057 (talk • contribs) 01:17, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

• @Anish057: According to Help:Video, videos must be in either WebM format or Ogg format. --Stabila711 (talk) 01:26, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

Being prompted to complete a captcha - but no text provided to attempt a response to

Attempting to correct an early paragraph (thus editing the complete article) of the IBM article, there is a catcha prompt when I attempt to save edit but no text is provided - only blank space. 50.136.247.190 (talk) 04:42, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

• Do you have Avast antivirus running? There is a known issue with the captcha and Avast. See this discussion at the village pump and this bug report for information on this. --Stabila711 (talk) 05:03, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

list of category page articles

hi, does anyone know how i can put together just the pages of a category but not the articles that they link to? for example https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:English_male_singers&from=0 has 1343 pages of english male singers from a-z, i just want a list of those names but not the articles. it only shows 200 artists per page, and copy pasting each page from a-z would take really long. thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2406:E007:715E:1:BCBD:BFE7:564D:3A6E (talk) 05:34, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

Howdy. Just having wised up to this tool myself - you can use CatScan for this. Here's a link with a completed run for your query: [[1]]. Scroll down to see the list. If you chose a "Format" option of CSV (lowest option on the interface), you get a comma-delineated document that you could just open with Excel or similar, then copy out the first column, and there's your name list. Cheers. -- Elmidae (talk) 11:40, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

Troll Dolls

I just looked up Troll Dolls and surprisingly, there is a picture of a Russ troll doll. The information is all about Thomas Dam, the Danish inventor on troll dolls in the late 50s and 60. Russ trolls did not come out until the 1980s. Please change the picture to an actual DAM troll doll. Thank you--2602:306:3AEE:1870:F062:9970:2CBB:28C9 (talk) 06:07, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

The article is about troll dolls generally, not just the ones invented by Dam. Nevertheless, I feel that a picture of one of the Dam dolls that I remember from the 1960s would be more appropriate, so I searched on Wikimedia Commons for one to use. I found nothing suitable, though I did find hundreds of images of pages of journals, mostly in Romanian. Maybe someone with a better understanding of Commons search function can help. Maproom (talk) 08:37, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

I doubt such photos would be permitted on Commons, as they surely are derivative works of copyrighted works. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 09:35, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

Help:Cite errors/Cite error ref no key

Quote marks parsed - I've just had trouble with this in a section I've edited at Hamilton, New Zealand. I copied it from my Sandbox, but somehow some of the quote marks became curly on the way. What mistake did I make in copying from my sandbox?Johnragla (talk) 11:03, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

I looked at the article history and it looks like you corrected it.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 19:59, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

Referencing errors on Scottish Labour Party leadership election, 2014

Reference help requested.

Hi, could someone help fix an issue raised by BracketBot at Scottish Labour leadership election, 2014? It's apparently from this edit, but I can't see what is actually wrong, and fix doesn't highlight the issue. It would be very helpful if BracketBot picked out the errors in the same way as DPL Bot does. Thanks in advance, This is Paul (talk) 11:12, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

You had named a ref "BBC-News-2014-11-01" and invoked a second use as "BBC-News-2014-11-07". Since the article is dated the 7th, I changed the 01 one to 07. Deor (talk) 11:33, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

Thanks again, This is Paul (talk) 11:37, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

spam

hey sir i need help a article Khayal Abbas AkhTar been attacked (several times) with vandalism in past and now..... Sir, this person being a controversial personality in his country. His article has been attacked (several times) with vandalism in past. You, being an experienced wikipedian, suggest either to remove it from wikipedia (to avoid expected vandalism in future) or anything else? user:imabbas —Preceding undated comment added 11:16, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

Article deleted per WP:CSD#A7.--ukexpat (talk) 13:08, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

cholanomics

I had submitted an article under the above caption and I was advised that the same is being deleted as personal. I have contested your view as there is nothing personal and such jargons are generally used by economists. I would appreciate your final decision in this regard.Hope you would revoke your call and include the subject matter in your esteemed and reputed encyclopedia.Thanks in anticipation — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mavoor ram sankar (talk • contribs) 14:48, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

Mavoor ram sankar, When the article says X "is referred here as" Y, it is pretty clearly Original research. That might well be proper in an original paper in an economics journal, or even in a popular magazine article. It isn't proper on Wikipedia. Wikipedia summarizes what others have already published in Reliable Sources. Until multiple independent reliable sources that use or refer to the term "cholanomics" can be cited, we can't have an article about it. See the 'golden rule' of article creation. DES ^(talk) 17:08, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

Sources

I just added a source, but don't know how to remove the tag that makes the article get deleted after 7 days. The article is Nick28t — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bearcub07122001 (talk • contribs) 16:06, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

The source you added, Bearcub07122001, at famousbirthdays.com is not IMO particularly reliable. But the article was deleted for "A7: No credible indication of importance" by Acroterion. You could ask that admin to reconsider, or ask at WP:REFUND. But honestly, I would have accepted an A7 deletion for that version of the article. If you want to start over, I urge that you use the article wizard and follow through with the articles for creation process. But first please review the golden rule for new articles and Your first article. If the subject doesn't pass the criteria listed there, don't waste your time and that of others trying to create an article about a non-notable topic with no chance of survival. DES ^(talk) 16:47, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

Calvin Love page

The musician Calvin Love can not make a page. Someone has the username Calvin Love and has never published the page. How can he create a page or contact the user to post his page with editing capabilities so that new content can be added? Thank you for your help in advance.Calvin love music (talk) 20:38, 16 September 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Calvin love music (talk • contribs) 20:36, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

@Calvin love music: just to be clear, there are "user names" and "article pages". Are you asking about creating an account with a "user name" that someone has previously registered? If so, please see WP:USURP for the process to see if the situation is such that you can take over that user name. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 20:41, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

It looks like the person who registered the account User:Calvin Love made one edit not too many years ago. [2] That probably disqualifies it from WP:USURP and you will need to use a different name for your account, but you can ask. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 20:44, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

The musician Calvin Love can not make a page. Someone has used the username Calvin Love and has not posted the page so that it can be edited to provide new information. How does he contact the user who created his page or get it published?Calvin love music (talk) 20:45, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

@Calvin love music: you keep using the word "publishing" so it seems that you are actually talking about an article about a musician named Calvin Love? if that is the case, see WP:AUTOBIO and WP:COI. After reading those policies, if Calvin Love meets the requirements for a stand alone article, then you can make a request via the request an article process.

(And note that you do not need to start a new section every time you reply, just click the "edit" in the existing section header name)-- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 20:51, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

Yes, that is correct. He would like an article. Or if he was googled his name Calvin Love would come up in Wikipedia. He qualifies for the requirements. thank you for your suggestionsCalvin love music (talk) 21:07, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

As previously advised. please make a request at WP:Requested articles.--ukexpat (talk) 12:49, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

heterocyclic amine compounds formed in meat

In looking up heterocyclic compounds the 'talk' section appears to be no more than a blog - and an uninteresting blog at that. Is blogging becoming common, now, instead of professional/intelligent arguments in regard to the article? It is super-annoying. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.19.177.119 (talk) 20:48, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

Heterocyclic amine formation in meat (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

The talk page is weird, I have never seen one like that before. There are also some odd things about the article. It starts "Heterocyclic amines are a group of 20 chemical compounds formed during cooking", which is false, some heterocyclic amines (such as tryptophan) occur in almost all living things, no cooking involved. Then it makes no attempt to show the structures of these 20 compounds, and only even names four of them. Most of its references are research papers, rather than secondary sources as recommended for medical subjects. Maproom (talk) 22:40, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

(edit conflict)Thank you for spotting this. I have archived the old, largely inappropriate talk page comments, and added a header describing the proper contents of a talk page going forward. Note that all of the comments on Talk:Heterocyclic amine formation in meat were more than 3 years old. A few of them were once useful suggestions on how to improve the article. DES ^(talk) 22:43, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

Maproom. I have seen a few, but not many, talk pages more or less like that. Most often on older low-traffic pages. DES ^(talk) 22:45, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

Help with creating a page for a living person

sorry for asking this question here but having hard time finding specific step by step info on how to create a page for a living person.

any and all help greatly appreciated — Preceding unsigned comment added by 8Writer8 (talk • contribs) 23:38, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

8Writer8, in my view, the fist step should be to read Your First Article and the golden rule of article essentials. Then consider whether you can find several independent reliable sources that discuss the subject in some detail. If you can, make use of the article wizard to start the process of drafting, and when you think it is complete, with all significant information cited to reliable sources, submit it for review. (If you can't find such sources, don't waste your time or the time of other editors.) DES ^(talk) 00:18, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

It should also be noted that you can't "create a page for" a living person here. You can, however, write an encyclopedia article about a living person here. I hope you understand the difference. If you want to create a page for a person, then go to MySpace or Facebook. --Orange Mike | Talk 02:28, 19 September 2015 (UTC)