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August 12

Citation

I've been asked to "Cite" an article or reference for giving the biography of a living person. I added the name and date of an online newspaper along with a "link" to the article within my paragraph substantiating my descriptions. Yet I'm STILL receiving messages requesting that I Cite" my references or face deletion. Do I have to add this link somewhere Other than within my summary? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:184:C400:7582:E885:89D7:A35C:DB10 (talk) 01:08, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

Information on how to cite references can be found at Help:Referencing for beginners. We could help you better if you told us which article you were trying to edit; presumably it was not being edited under your current IP address, as that shows no edits other than this question. --David Biddulph (talk) 01:14, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

Incorrect name in article

Yoav Bar El (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Hi, This is my first time using the help desk so I hope I'm doing this right... I've recently seen an article about Joav Bar-El, except that in the article title (and the rest of the article) his name is spelled "Yoav Bar El". How can I change the name of the article to show his correct name? Link to article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoav_Bar_El Thanks! Juval — Preceding unsigned comment added by Juvalb (talk • contribs) 06:23, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

Four of the five sources (three of which appear to be the same source in different languages) show the name with a 'Y'. Wikipedia basically uses the most common spelling. It would have to be clearly demonstrated with reliable sources that 'J' is correct before the article would be 'moved' to a new title. Page names are changed by 'moving' the page to a new location to preserve its history. This action will not be available to you until your account is at least four days old and you have a minimum of 10 edits. Please link to a Wiki page on talk pages by typing [[:Yoav Bar El]] and sign your posts by typing four tildes (~~~~). Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 07:45, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

Most edited articles

This question has probably been asked some time in the past, however, I would like to know whether there is some convenient way of finding out which articles on Wikipedia have received the largest numbers of edits (I am looking for a method more convenient than going from article to article and checking the revision history). FreeKnowledgeCreator (talk) 10:50, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

@FreeKnowledgeCreator: Special:Mostrevisions contains this info for the main namespace while Wikipedia:Database reports/Pages with the most revisions has it for all namespaces. Graham87 15:52, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

Literature

Hello, this was yesterday my question and the answer. Hello, I sometimes add literature from dewiki to articles in enwiki. In dewiki the authors are written: 1 given name 2 surname, in enwiki it is opposite: 1 surname 2 given name. Do I have to convert the authors this way or is it not so important? Many thanks--Buchbibliothek (talk) 21:02, 11 August 2016 (UTC)

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Yes, please; otherwise, it falsifies the reference. --Orange Mike | Talk 21:54, 11 August 2016 (UTC)

However, my question was not very exact. I add books to the section "Further reading". Is it there important to write the authors in the way Surname-Given name? Thank you.--Buchbibliothek (talk) 10:55, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

It is very much customary in English to list by surname. --Orange Mike | Talk 12:27, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

Is it worth it to improve the Java Pathfinder page?

So, the Java Pathfinder article is outdated and short, and I think I could improve it quite a bit. But then again, it's only referenced by a few articles and stayed that way for a while, and it doesn't really have any sources.

Java Pathfinder, the software, is taught to students at several universities (for which sources exist) but besides that, the only sources that did not come from Java Pathfinder itself were mostly scholarly articles from people who used Java Pathfinder. So by now, I've spent quite a bit of time wondering whether I should edit at all or whether by bringing attention to the article I would cause it to be deleted instead because of lack of notability, so I got kind of stuck here paralyzed.

So... is it notable, and if so, does it affect how detailed the article should be? Petr Hudeček (talk) 13:15, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

Impostor claiming to be a member of a musical group

In a posting of biography,s you have a group called The Casinos noted for their hit single recording of "Then You Can Tell Me Goodbye". In that bio you have listed that Ken Brady was the lead singer taking over for the original lead singer Gene Hughes. This inormation is incorrect. Ken Brady NEVER SANG WITH THE CASINOS!He is an impostor who was a groupie back in those days and when the group split up he tried to take over the name but was stopped by Mr Hughes. Actually Mr Hughes stop several attempts from Ken Brady. When Mr Hughes Passed away, Mr Brady found his opportunity to steal the name by having original band members of the Casinos placed ont the Trademark and is now performing stating he is the Original Lead Singer of The Casinos. Please remove that information from Wikipedia as this is false information. Please research as you will see this to be true and evident. Also Mr Brady states he was also on the record which is false as well.There is no photos ever of Mr Brady performing with the Original Casinos anywhere except what Mr Brady has posted on his own after Mr Hughes passed away. Thank You. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.106.243.6 (talk) 14:59, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

Well, there are sources that briefly mention his involvement in the band: [1], [2]. We can't really take a stance on whether a particular incarnation of a band is the "true" band, as that's for the courts to decide. I will say, however, that the current Wikipedia article is pretty terrible. The contested information seems to have been added in December 2013, which also seems to be when the article began taking a more promotional tone. The best advice I can offer is to find reliable sources that describe the history of the band, then clarify the history in the article with those sources. As an encyclopedia, we can't accept oral history from involved parties. One source that might be useful is The Cincinnati Sound by Randy McNutt, published by Arcadia Publishing (ISBN 9780738550763). In the meantime, I've removed a bit of promotion and arguing over who the real band is, which doesn't belong on Wikipedia. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 19:48, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

Table and image layout

Could somebody take a look at the layout of the Truck article, particularly the images before the history heading and the layout of the "Maximum sizes by country" section, and de-kludgify it? See the end of this talk page thread for more detail. In particular, the "." after the measurement in the "With three axles" column of the Australia section of the table is bothering me. There must be a better way to address Sammy D III's concerns than using kludges like that. Thanks! Graham87 16:01, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

I replaced "." and some line breaks with CSS styles. Ruslik_Zero 20:08, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

That is it, thank you. And I only need it if the bottom line is blank, otherwise breaks will work and be easier? Thank you. Sammy D III (talk) 20:26, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

Referencing errors on First Presbyterian Church (Bethlehem, Pennsylvania)

Reference help requested. This is an exception I believe in that a dispute exists in which two separate bodies claim the name"First Presbyterian Church of Bethlehem". One body uses designation (ECO) and their URL listed first as their official website while the second group with the same name is within PC(USA) and I referenced it as the official site for them but the template prevents me from listing both entities as the official sites for the same topic. Help ! There are three court cases pending today over the real ownership of the name, property, and money in this church.Compounding my editing problem is my lack of knowledge of computers or Wiki. Can you advise someone to assist? I would be willing to pay for services.I am trying to learn.--Iwitness972 (talk) 17:35, 12 August 2016 (UTC)--Iwitness972 (talk) 17:35, 12 August 2016 (UTC)http://bethlehem.thelehighvalleypress.com/2016/07/21/first-presbyterian

Thanks, Iwitness972 (talk) 17:35, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

Currently both websites are listed as external links, which seems to be appropriate. Ruslik_Zero 19:16, 12 August 2016 (UTC)