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February 5

Email question

Due to uncontrollable cursor movement by Wen Jia Bao guys and Li Chang Chun guys, I have to stop email entry at my sister's home in the military camp in Urumqi, China. Here is what I have typed, you could check whether it's identical with those limited entered in one of my emails just now in the morning 5 Feb to see if they make a wrongly directed email interface to cheat me.

Attn: Wen Jia Bao guys falsify my email. 5 Feb 2016 4:07:37am, as per the weapon, thieves and murderers Jiang chun un guys and Wan Li guys illegally enter my home through the old channel at nig 3:40:40am, thieves and murderers Jiang Chun Yun guys deduct CNY83.74 illegally from my mobile telephone account again on 1, 7, 30 Nov, 1, 18 Dec 2015, 1, 18, 24 Jan, 1 Feb 2016; have increased base price for landline telephone at my home from CNY15 to CNY30 per month since winter 2015. Jia Qing Lin guys from He Nan province deduct CNY13.5 more this time for SIM card 2 mobile telephone service occurred last Dec for 394 days according to a fee consumption messages sent by number 1065 8139 1205 1496 6457 on 11 Jan 2015. After receiving CNY20t from Jiang Chun Yun guys, Jia Qing Lin guys deducted CNY15 illegally from my mobile telephone account on 1 Oct 2015. Jia guys deducted CNY21.50 more illegally again from July 15 to Aug 4, suspended its communication for 4 days and switch off it for 21 days illegally by electromagnetic weapon from Apr 5 to July 25, 2015. Jia Qing Lin guys from Yan Tai, Shan Dong province changed pay rate of my mobile telephone service account and deducted CNY6.5 more illegally from Aug 4 to Sep 1 2015. 4:01:26am, thieves and murderers Jia Qing Lin guys from Shan Xi province illegally enter my home and plug drainage pipe to ceramic basin in bathroom for 169 days continually. Jiang Chun Yun guys join them too from late Aug. 4:02:07am, Jiang Chun Yun guys make water leakage on the faucet in kitchen at my home for 121 days. The wasted tap water quantity has lasted to be one ton per day since the end of Oct 2015. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.117.86.126 (talk) 02:45, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

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Issues with justifying text properly in infobox

New editor, aving some issues with the infobox - on Battle for Zendikar if you take a look, the "A" in "A fractured hedron" is out of place. Would appreciate guidance on how to fix it/stop it happening again as I work through getting the article up to speed now that the block is fully released. Thanks in advance MentlegenOh (talk) 03:18, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

 Fixed in this edit.--ukexpat (talk) 03:34, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

Ah, I see where I went wrong. Thanks for the help. MentlegenOh (talk) 03:37, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

What to name a page?

Dear editors: This draft Draft:Valmieras stikla šķiedra appears ready to be moved into the encyclopedia, although it still needs some improvement. Should it be called Valmieras stikla šķiedra, or the English version, Valmiera Fibreglass? I realize that the other name can be a redirect. English sources tend to use the English name.—Anne Delong (talk) 03:47, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

This is the English version of Wikipedia. Mlpearc (open channel) 03:56, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

Yes, I know, my feeling is it should be the English version, but the other is the actual name of the company and so it more accurate. Is there a policy about this?—Anne Delong (talk) 05:39, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

The guideline, WP:USEENGLISH, is to use the version of the name of the subject which is most common in the English language. —teb728 t c 06:40, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

Flag day parade addition

Ocean Shores WA has an annual flag day parade the second Saturday of June and has occurred for at least the last twenty (20) years. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:603:4500:9534:FCA0:7B02:C808:C143 (talk) 06:16, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

Thank you. There are different opinions about exactly what to include in Wikipedia, but I would think unless there is something highly unusual or distinctive about the flag day parade in Ocean Shores, Washington that has been reported upon outside the locality, it may not be noteworthy enough to mention in the article. We do link to the City of Ocean Shores website which lists this in the calendar of events: Noyster (talk), 10:52, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

Help:How to move a draft for submittance for feedback

How do I move a draft article to be reviewed for acceptance by Wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Debsp1 (talk • contribs) 07:06, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

Presumably Draft:Veterinary Defence Association —teb728 t c 07:27, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

@Debsp1: There is no need to move Draft:Veterinary Defence Association but in [1] you removed a line saying "Do not remove this line!" I have restored the line. It produces a box with a button to resubmit the draft for review. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:35, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

Mobile format not for use with iPad ? (See, below)

Noted that my iPad will only provide the definition of highlighted words when the Wikipedia page is in Desktop format, and will not provide any word definitions in Mobile format despite iPad being a "Mobile" device. What's up with that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:C8:4006:A5A0:4C0D:2D0C:860D:AA5B (talk) 07:53, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

Do you mean that links do not work? If you really meant definitions, then I think this is a feature of your iPad. Wikipedia doesn't provide definitions, only articles with links to other articles. For definitions, use Wiktionary. Dbfirs 10:44, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

You were not logged in when you posted here but logged in users can enable Navigation popups or Hovercards to see the start of an article when they hover over an internal link. Is that what you mean? Those features are not available in the mobile version. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:11, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

asking a question

All I want to do is ask a question on a humanities subject. I am told to log in. But I already am, you supply my name etc. Yet, I cannot proceed any further. In the past, I have asked many questions successfully. Help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Helenadrienne (talk • contribs) 09:41, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

@Helenadrienne: Sorry, but that page is currently semi-protected because of recurring vandalism. However, now that you have an account, you will be able to get around the semi-protection as soon as your account is at least four days old and has at least ten edits of any sort. Since you posted a question here, you really only have nine edits to go. A wonderful way to get to ten edits is to just going through articles and fixing any grammar or spelling problems, one at a time (just be sure to leave the odd bits of code alone unless you can tell what they're supposed to do). Ian.thomson (talk) 10:40, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

I understand the vandalism issue, but isn't requiring autoconfirmed status pretty much counter to the mission of the Reference Desks? "The Wikipedia reference desk attempts to provide services comparable to those of a library reference desk." Pending changes would seem a better fit.

To the OP: you can still ask a question by posting a "Semi-protected edit request" on the reference desk's talk page: Wikipedia talk:Reference desk. Rwessel (talk) 11:11, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

Pending changes is poorly suited for discussions. Wikipedia:Pending changes#Frequently asked questions says: "It was determined by consensus that pending changes could only be used on articles". @Helenadrienne: Your account is ten months old and has three edits so you only need seven more logged in edits to be able to edit semi-protected pages like Wikipedia:Reference desk/Humanities. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:21, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

Spam on this talk page

The talk page for TXT record seems to be pure spam (using Google Translate on the content does not in any way decrease that impression). What is the best way to handle this? (Secondary question: If it had not been spam, but only in a non-English language, what would be the way to deal with it?)

I have read Wikipedia:Spam, but it seems to only deal with the article itself, not talk pages. And normally you are not allowed to make any changes to talk pages.

--Mortense (talk) 11:16, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

Normally, we don't edit or delete other editors' genuine comments on talk pages, but this was just spam and has now been deleted. If it had been a genuine comment in Arabic, then the best thing to do would have been to provide a translation.Dbfirs 11:27, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

Yes, removing inappropriate posts is allowed by Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines#Editing comments. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:29, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

Help:Cite errors/Cite error references no text

Hi, I have no idea what this means It pertains to article on Wilson A. Head. What can I do? Cite error: The named reference Wilson_Head_Fought was invoked but never defined (see the help page). Katsheron (talk) 16:49, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

The short answer is that someone used <ref name="Wilson Head Fought"/> but there is no such reference. I'll look further to see if I can figure out how to fix it.--S Philbrick(Talk) 17:00, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

There used to be a section on his death. Take a look at the revisions from the end of 2015.Naraht (talk) 17:02, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

The problem occurs in this edit. I'm not sure of the best fix, consider contacting @Katsheron:.--S Philbrick(Talk) 17:04, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

Hello; this means that you have applied a ref name (<ref name=XXXX/>) without placing the name part in front of the reference you wished to apply (using it for a second or further time) at the point where the error occurred. I can't see from a quick look which ref you wanted to use on the subsequent occasion, but if you put <ref name=XXXX> immediately in front of it at its first use, it should solve the problem. Eagleash (talk) 17:03, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

I fixed it for you. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 17:04, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

(edit conflict) (sort of). OK you guys have got this. :) Eagleash (talk) 17:05, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

Thank you so much! I replaced the "personal" with a paragraph on his "assault" but I believe I will put the death reference back in there. Katsheron (talk) 17:13, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

Overlined text does not display properly in table of contents

The Prosigns for Morse code article includes several sections with overlined text like this. This overlining is significant to the content of the article and cannot be substituted by any alternate highlighting forms such as underlining or italics, angle brackets, etc. The overlining displays correctly in the article itself, but does not display in the automatically generated table of contents. Is there a fix or workaround for this? Thanks.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.174.97.118 (talk) 16:56, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

Looking at the first 10 pages from google on prosigns and morse, the #1 is this page. Of the remaining 9, only one uses overlining and two use angle bracketing, which is also used in the page. One solution would be for the page to use angle bracketing in the section headers. That would show in the Table of Contents.Naraht (talk) 17:12, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

Draft review

There must be an easy way to ask for a review of a draft, but I have not found it. Can someone tell me?--S Philbrick(Talk) 17:26, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

Do you mean before actually moving to mainspace? Eagleash (talk) 17:27, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

Assuming so, {{AFC submission}} is the request review template.Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 17:31, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

The easy way is to add {{subst:submit}} to the top of your draft. --David Biddulph (talk) 18:08, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

Not only easy but the proper method, so that the appropriate time stamps etc are applied.--ukexpat (talk) 01:58, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

Thanks. --S Philbrick(Talk) 19:38, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

Marginally Related Question

The above question was about how to request review of a draft on purpose. How does an editor request review of a draft by mistake? I am asking because this often happens, such as blank submissions and test edits, and maybe we need measures to make it less common. (I am asking about apparently mistaken but good-faith submissions. Bad-faith submissions, such as attack pages, are a different matter, and are done on purpose, and are dealt with by deleting them and warning or blocking the editor. But I am asking about mistaken submissions of what obviously were not meant to be submitted.) Robert McClenon (talk) 23:16, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

HTML markup in my sig breaks archive tag??

Hi, using archivetop| message I am able to display the message box to the right of the archive box, but I can't display my signature. If I do archivetop|message with the four tildes, then the messagebox and my signature does not appear. My signature contains html in it and I am wondering if that does anything with the archive tag.

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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with message no signature

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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with message and signature

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Thanks Sir Joseph ^(talk) 21:09, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

In second example you have an error in syntax. What happens if you save such content?

{{archive top|message}}
with message no signature --~~~~
{{archive bottom}}

--Edgars2007 (talk/contribs) 21:11, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for replying. Where is the syntax error? I want the signature to be in the box. In my edit summary, I see the signature, not the four tildes, I see the timestamp and HTML markup of how it should display.

{{archive top|message ~~~~}}
This is what I mean, this will post, but will not post the message above, nor my signature.
{{archive bottom}}

Sir Joseph ^(talk) 21:19, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

You need to put "1=" before the message in the template. This will fix the problem. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 21:27, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Yes, sorry. It looked wrong to me at first :) Well, if you change {{archive top|message ~~~~}} to {{archive top|1=message ~~~~}} (I added |1=), it will work. --Edgars2007 (talk/contribs) 21:30, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

Thank you both for helping! That did the trick! Sir Joseph ^(talk) 21:31, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

Yup. Any time a signature is in a template (where it is entered manually), you need to use that syntax. It may not always be "1=" (it may be "2=" or "message=" or something else), but the template documentation should give you that information. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 16:26, 8 February 2016 (UTC)