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January 31

"List of Copywriter" addition

For your page "List of Copywriters" (List of copywriters), you should add Jason Byers. Articles have been written about him, such as: http://upstart.bizjournals.com/careers/job-of-the-week/2007/07/31/Movie-Tagline-Writers.html?page=all — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kahajose (talk • contribs) 01:48, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

But there hasn't been a Wikipedia article written about him, which is the usual prerequisite for addition to such a list. If you feel up to it, and the articles you mention include substantial independent coverage of him, and you have no direct connection to him, maybe you could write one? Rojomoke (talk) 05:57, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

Fix

On this page (Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Lead Actor in a Comedy Series), can someone please fix the "Notes" at the bottom of the page? Thanks. I made a minor grammatical edit, and it resulted in all these red error messages. And I can't figure out how to fix the problem. Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 04:06, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

 Fixed, the problem was the same footnote being repeated many times, which works fine until the text is no longer precisely identical across all of them. I've moved it around to have a single instance of the footnote text, with many pointers to it, which both fixes it and should make it less likely to break again. Murph9000 (talk) 04:26, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

Thanks. That was bizarre and I was not able to see what the problem was. Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 04:44, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

Laird

Please fix up ref 20 on this page. Your help as usual has been fantastic. 101.182.136.195 (talk) 09:09, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

Done - the blue link in such error messages links to additional information. In this case "MONTH DD YYYY" without comma is not supported as date format. You can find a list of allowed date formats in the linked Help:CS1_errors#bad_date table. GermanJoe (talk) 09:20, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

As an aside, as this article is about Scotland, the manual of style says that the British date format (Day Month Year) should be used, rather than the American date format (Month Day Year). Joseph2302 (talk) 10:05, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

Article is not being published

Hi,

the above page provides details and biography of the IAS Officer Israel Jebasigh. And every time I save this article it is not published and even on moving it to wikipedia it gets moved back. Please point out the issue and help me resolve.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Kjagan2 (talk • contribs)

• The draft hasn't been published because it hasn't been reviewed yet. Publishing means moving it to the article namespace, not the Wikipedia one.Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 13:33, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

The draft is now at Draft:R A Israel Jebasingh (IAS) where it is waiting for AFC review. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 13:44, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

Draft has been reviewed. --David Biddulph (talk) 13:47, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

How to translate infobox?

I need to translate Template:Infobox publisher labels to my language. How I can do it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vykintazo (talk • contribs)

@Vykintazo: First of all in case you don't know, you create the translation not on English Wikipedia but in the Šablonas: namespace of Lithuanian Wikipedia. You create the translation using the common lt:Šablonas:Infolentelė template which is already on Lithuanian Wikipedia. For documentation you will create a documentation subpage and reference it through the documentation template on Lithuanian Wikipedia. —teb728 t c 20:32, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

And the documentation template is lt:Šablonas:Dokumentacija —teb728 t c 20:35, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

Teddybears (TV series)

Hello, can you please check out the above article as a prod has been removed and then put back, both actions were in larger edits. I haven't edited the page at all.Atlantic306 (talk) 19:49, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

@Atlantic306: I've re-removed the PROD, as it shouldn't be reinstated. That being said, I doubt the article is notable. Joseph2302 (talk) 19:56, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

ThanksAtlantic306 (talk) 20:03, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

The article is now at Articles for Deletion, which will get community consensus. Robert McClenon (talk) 18:03, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Looking for a Bot to list imageless articles in a given category

Is there a bot that lists all the pages in a given WikiProject or Category that don't have an image?

I've been looking at tools.wmflabs.org and I can see that there are several bots that do more complicated tasks (such as not just finding imageless pages, but suggesting images for them either because they're on associated pages or because of GeoIP tagging) - but nothing that provides a list of imageless pages by category or project.

It seems an obvious and simple user case to me. ("I'm in a museum of X. Should I take any pics for Wikipedia?".) So I'm inclined to assume that such a bot exists somewhere, and I've missed it. Have I? Ian McDonald (talk) 20:38, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

@Drianmcdonald: Ian, this does not even necessarily require WP:BOTAPPROVAL, unless it is run as a fully automated process. WP:ASSISTED would allow the use of offline software which downloaded the source of all pages in a category, analysed them to find the pages without an image, then uploaded the results of the analysis under supervision. The approval is needed for bots that make unsupervised changes (i.e. edits or uploading results without any human interaction). Just downloading and analysing pages, as long as you are not creating an unreasonable server load, is pretty much something anyone is permitted to do. If doing it for large numbers of pages on a regular basis, it might still be reasonable to seek approval, of course. The best solution, however, would probably be an approved automated bot which adds a hidden category of "Category:WikiProject xxx pages without images", or similar. Using a hidden maintenance category for it allows the status to be immediately updated by someone adding an image to the page. Although not a direct answer to your question, I'm throwing this out there to note that basically there's very little stopping someone from doing this. Murph9000 (talk) 21:00, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

@Drianmcdonald: do you have some specific category in mind? I probably could help get at least partial results. --Edgars2007 (talk/contribs) 21:12, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, but I think CPiral has my immediate question. And I think to be really useful it would need to be something that could be automated.Ian McDonald (talk) 16:09, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

@Drianmcdonald: an ad hoc search:

incategory:dogs -insource:/"[[file:"/i -insource:/"[[image:"/i  finds dogs without pictures. The search

file: shepard german  searches the File namespace, (where all the images are described), for your terms, and the results come up as thumbnails. Furthermore, if you then click on one of the file pages, and then click on the "description page", it will take you to Commons wiki, where most all the pictures really are, and there you can search the Categories namespace incategory:category as a way of viewing available images based on your terms. Finally, to find category names, for use in the incategory search parameter, use the page Special:CategoryTree. — CpiralCpiral 05:25, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

Thank you! I shall RTFM on ad hoc searches. Ian McDonald (talk) 13:22, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

@Cpiral: I can see how that's useful for basic searches in a category, thanks. Broadening the requirements to editing, what I'm interested in is a tool that would point up where a contributor with a given area of interest could be of most use. A tool that, given a topic (probably a Wikipedia page title) could (i) generate a list of 10-99ish related pages and (ii) list them by (a) class and (b) whether they need a pic. Something like the Template:Task_force_assessment but for an ad hoc one person taskforce. Ian McDonald (talk) 15:48, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

Well, there's a search parameter called morelike that finds an area of interest defined by a given pagename. It uses the words (30%) on that pagename, and returns the set of pages ranked most like itself on top. morelike: german shepard.

Unfortunately it only runs standalone, so we can't add terms to it to further filter the area of interest, such as morelike: "german shepard" boost-templates: Template:featured german shepard -insource:/"[file:". But because of your efforts to state your use-case here, I will fabricate a task-request for CirrusSearch around this limitation of morelike. Cheers. — CpiralCpiral 19:47, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

@Cpiral: Thanks! Is there a task-request entry that I should follow or interact with? Ian McDonald (talk) 20:18, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

Oh, yes. T126698. Thanks for reminding me. — CpiralCpiral 21:42, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

@Murph9000: I am hoping that this a wheel that I won't have to reinvent. But I can code, so it's not impossible for me to edit what's out there, and/or learn the API. Ian McDonald (talk) 15:48, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

@Drianmcdonald: If you are interested in coding something up, you might have the most luck working up something in tool labs that queries elasticsearch directly. You can see the query that gets generated for a more like in production by appending the cirrusDumpQuery parameter. From a project in tool labs there is an elasticsearch server you can send a similar query to: http://nobelium.eqiad.wmnet/enwiki_content/page/_search. Send as a GET request with content (POST requests get filtered). Alternatively you could look into extending CirrusSearch to do similar, but currently more like hits a different code path than full text so would require some bit of refactoring. EBernhardson (WMF) (talk) 21:41, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

@EBernhardson: It might be simplest to just take the metadata of the first twenty or so and do some parsing if there are libraries I can simply use. But Nobelium gives me 'ERR_NAME_NOT_RESOLVED' - so I'm falling at that first hurdle.

Should raster graphic be maintained when a vector graphic exists?

Is there a policy regarding what should be done with a raster graphic when it is no longer used on any page because a vector graphic had been made to replace it? Is the raster graphic saved for posterity and for future use even when the vector graphic is the superior option? Evan.oltmanns (talk) 23:47, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

Evan.oltmanns since no one has answered, I would suggest WP:VPP.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 22:30, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Vchimpanzee Thank you. Question Evan.oltmanns (talk) 13:35, 2 February 2016 (UTC)