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Change article title

Hi, I need to know how to capitalize the Article Title, please, as it is a proper name/place. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mtwrighter (talk • contribs) 00:11, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

Hello, Presumably this is in relation to National butterfly center? Your account will acquire the ability to re-name a page, referred to as 'moving a page' and accessed when available via the move tab at the top of the page, after it has been valid for 4 days with a minimum of 10 edits. (See WP:MOVE). In the meantime the page needs some work to bring it up to Wikipedia standards. It seems entirely unreferenced and citing WP:RS is one of the key elements of Wiki. You should also refer to WP:REFB and WP:CITET for more information. The link in the bold name should be removed and placed in an external links section at the end of the page and the issues with the infobox image resolved. Note that images which are found elsewhere on the web are almost certain to be copyright and cannot be used on Wiki without licensing. Good luck. Please come back if you require further assistance. Eagleash (talk) 00:40, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

Furthermore the article includes 'we' when referring to the center. This would suggest that you have a close connection to the subject and you would therefore also need to read WP:COI before continuing to edit the page. Eagleash (talk) 01:43, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

Moved, edited a bit (needs more) and tagged.--ukexpat (talk) 02:11, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

And the page has been deleted as promotional. If you want to recreate it, please use articles for creation, as this allows other editors to give you feedback on it before it goes into article space. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:58, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

Replacing a stub

I have written an article for a class on laser beam machining and there is already a stub on the subject. How do I merge the two articles into one? I have already incorporated the pertinent information from the stub in my article, but don't want to delete the stub without permission. Here are links to both articles for reference. Laser Beam Machining, Laser beam machining — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ajgreene123 (talk • contribs) 00:52, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

An administrator would need to merge the two articles. Is there an admin in the house? NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 05:33, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

I think it might have been better if you had edited the existing stub which has the correct capitalisation. Dbfirs 09:02, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

I've added the Histmerge tag to the article. And yes, in future it's generally better to edit the existing article, rather than create a new one. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:55, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

Histmerge done. Guettarda (talk) 18:18, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

Search for Boolean combination of categories

I want to search for living composers. It appears those are captured by the following combination of categories:

category:Living people AND SUBCATEGORY OF category:Composers

Is there a way to do that? if the "SUBCATEGORY OF" feature is not possible, then it gets complicated (if parentheses are even allowed; otherwise I would have to repeat the category:Living people for each OR term):

category:Living people AND (category:Male classical composers OR category:Female classical composers OR category:Male film score composers‎ or category:Female film score composers‎ OR category:Male singer-songwriters‎ OR category:Female singer-songwriters‎ OR ...)

From WP:FAQ/Categories#Can I specify categories when searching? and Help:Searching#Parameters I gather that at least a partial workaround would be to look for words inside categories. So I tried the following:

incategory:composer AND incategory:living

But that yields no results. Any suggestions? — Sebastian 05:51, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

There used to be something called WP:CATSCAN but it's been years since I used it and I think the name changed... Dismas|^(talk) 12:48, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

You could try this: https://tools.wmflabs.org/catscan2/catscan2.php

Another option might be to query wikidata. Here is an example of a query for subjects that are an instance of human with occupation composer, a birth date after 1900-01-01, no death date who are the subject of an article in the english wikipedia. No that the list is rather long, almost 12,000 subjects. Mduvekot (talk) 13:48, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, everyone! It seems like Catscan is still working; I'm trying it out right now. It just takes forever and sometimes crashes or times out.
On a related note, I searched for category:female classical composers on Meta-Wiki and obtained the following:
Did you mean: category:female classical computers
— Sebastian 19:03, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

Cane Toads - Australia

Please be advised that cane toads introduced into Australia early in the 20th century were from South America not Hawaii as written in Wikipedia

Thanks Loretta — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.170.178.19 (talk) 06:57, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

The articles Cane toad and Cane toads in Australia each cite a reference (different ones) for the claim that the introduced toads came from Hawaii. What is your evidence that they were brought directly from South America? Maproom (talk) 09:05, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

(edit conflict)Other sources seem to say Hawaii, but if you have a reliable source that says South America, could you please point us to it? It's true that the toads evolved in South America, but if they were imported from there, can you tell us which country they came from? Dbfirs 09:10, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

Shami Kabab

Hi First of all, I apologize that I tried to edit Shami Kabab for a new picture which I feel that was better than the present from Wikimedia common. I do not understand why it not worked. Maybe I have no skill to do this. Kindly revert my today's edits. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 39.48.114.229 (talk) 12:01, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

I was about to do that for you, but it's already been done. You could have reverted your edits yourself. Dbfirs 12:05, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

non-English reference

I want to put in an English-written (wiki) subject a reference to a book/journal which is printed in a non-English language. How do I handle this? shall I write it phonatically in English latters? OR first I need to translate the reference to English and then put it in?89.139.173.88 (talk) 15:51, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

You should write it as it is written in the book or journal. Maproom (talk) 16:00, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

If the language uses a different script, such as Cyrillic, a translation might help, see List of Eurasian nuthatch subspecies, which has many non-English sources Jimfbleak - talk to me? 16:26, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

How do I create a new page

I need to know how to create a new page. Please respond hastily. I plan on making new pages — Preceding unsigned comment added by Actuallyapotato247 (talk • contribs) 17:16, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

Please don't be hasty in creating new pages; it's better to use your own sandbox or draft space first. You should be especially careful if your new pages are about people. See WP:Biographies of living persons for details. There is some useful guidance on your talk page.Dbfirs 18:26, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

Actuallyapotato247, creating a page that is accepted is one of the most difficult tasks there is in Wikipedia. I strongly advise not to be hasty, but to spend a considerable time improving existing articles before you attempt it, so that you learn how to edit and how Wikipedia works. --ColinFine (talk) 18:36, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

What is the connection between User:Actuallyapotato247 and User:Bcmsr1? Creating a draft article in the sandbox of another user is unusual and raises questions about multiple accounts. Robert McClenon (talk) 21:58, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

Potential copyright problems with picture

Kmmcderm (talk · contribs) provided the image on the right [display now hidden, clear copyvio.--ukexpat (talk) 00:27, 16 March 2016 (UTC)], asserting that it was his own work. However, the same picture appears on the West Osceola Library website, which has the legend "© 2012-2013 Osceola Library System." Even if we assume that Kmmcderm took the picture and gave it to the library, doesn't the copyright notice override his personal CC license assertion? ubiquity (talk) 17:30, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

Looks a clear copyvio to me - identical picture and no Exif information from the camera. I would nominate it for deletion (bottom option in the LH column on the Commons page) citing the URL you have above. - Arjayay (talk) 17:41, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

File:HM0.jpg also looks like a copyvio too. Probable source Hart Memorial Central. The library itself doesn’t appear notable either... no wait ... it is flying a flag from a flag poll. So I think we should let this one pass our notability guidelines. (cough) --Aspro (talk) 21:38, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

Bryan Martin

For some reason "Bryan Colby Martin Sr" the award winning filmmaker and screenplay writer, of Sacramento, CA, keeps being denied as a real person. Here are some links to his success: IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3644596/?ref_=rvi_nm

Website: http://www.b2oprod.com/about-us.html

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Back2One

Bryan Colby Martin SR. is racked number 17 out of 100, top indie directors, in 2016, Action On Film Film Festival. He's shot films all over the globe. He's won awards in New York, The Hoboken Film Festival, Los Angeles, Hollywood Screenplay Contest, Action On Film Film Festival, to name a few. He was one of Bob Hopes last directors. He's worked with many top "A-Listers" and is one of the managers of the prestigious Sundance Film Festival. He is the founder of Back2ONE Productions, and BCMfilms. Mr. Martin is a true indie filmmaker. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bcmsr1 (talk • contribs) 19:53, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

I would be surprised if his existence were doubted, what I would expect is that his Notability is questioned. For a person to be notable coverage by sources not directly related to him is needed. The entries that you've show are (apparently) to his company's website, his company's facebook page and imdb. Please see WP:RS/IMDB for Wikipedia policy on the use of IMDB. Magazines about the Film Industry would be much better references.Naraht (talk) 20:08, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

@Bcmsr1: Also, your name suggests a strong WP:COI. Please don't edit an article about yourself or someone you know personally. Jjamesryan (talk | contribs) 21:21, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

The article on Bryan Colby Martin was deleted under proposed deletion of unsourced biographies of living persons. That doesn't mean that it was denied that he is a real person. That particular deletion protocol only applies to people who are thought to be real living persons. However, it is the responsibility of the author of a draft to provide sources (and to not be associated with the subject). Robert McClenon (talk) 21:51, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

What is the connection between User:Actuallyapotato247 and User:Bcmsr1? Creating a draft article in the sandbox of another user is unusual and raises questions about multiple accounts. Robert McClenon (talk) 21:58, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

Joan Lescinski

Please update the title on the "Joan Lescinski" page to "Joan Lescinski, CSJ, Ph.D."

Also, we update our notable alums from time to time. One that we recommend that you add is Shane Jones, SAU '05, founder of Fooda.

Thank you, Kathy Anderson, Senior Asst. to the President St. Ambrose University — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kanders53 (talk • contribs) 20:41, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

@Kanders53: Wikipedia does not add honorific titles to article names, so Joan Lescinski is the correct article title.

Also, the notable alumni on St. Ambrose University#Notable alumni is not determined by who the University believes is notable, but rather by who is notable in the sense of Wikipedia. To be included on the list, they would need a Wikipedia article about them, which would require showing a depth of coverage in reliable sources. Joseph2302 (talk) 20:53, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

Thank you, Joseph, for the quick reply. I understand your policy on honorific titles. Would you please consider changing her title to Joan Lescinski, CSJ. The CSJ is not an honorific title. It is the designation of Sister Joan's religious community and is considered to be part of her name. Thank you. Kathy Anderson

Kanders53: Wikipedia does not add honorific titles to article names, so Joan Lescinski is the correct article title.Also, the notable alumni on St. Ambrose University#Notable alumni is not determined by who the University believes is notable, but rather by who is notable in the sense of Wikipedia. To be included on the list, they would need a Wikipedia article about them, which would require showing a depth of coverage in reliable sources. Joseph2302 (talk) 20:53, 15 March 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kanders53 (talk • contribs)

CSJ is not part of her legal name, but, in Wikipedia, is considered a suffix after her name, no more part of her name that Ph.D. Robert McClenon (talk) 21:54, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

Agree with the above. Wikipedia doesn't add any prefixes/suffixes to people's names. Joseph2302 (talk) 21:57, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

@Kanders53:, Barack Obama and Albert Einstein are both ore notable and mange without any honorifics, titles or qualifications Jimfbleak - talk to me? 13:10, 16 March 2016 (UTC)

List For Red-Links

A way for me to find potential articles is for me to find and click on red-links and determine if I can write the article. Where can I find a list of red-links? Also, is there a better way for me to find subjects that do not yet have articles written for them yet? |Book-Portal| Talk 17:33, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

@BookPortal: See WP:WANTED. Please note that just because something is redlinked often does not mean it meets our criteria for inclusion. Also, you need to include a closing </small> in your custom signature. --Majora (talk) 22:54, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Hi BookPortal. Special:WantedPages is the general list of red links, but I don't find it very useful, because it is too big and unsorted. Another versio is Wikipedia:Most-wanted articles. There is Wikipedia:Requested articles where you can find lists of articles (by category) that people have taken the trouble to request. In some cases they suggested one or more sources, but sometimes these prove totally unsuitable for Wikipedia. Or you can just browse through article looking for redlinks. DES ^(talk) 23:03, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

Family of Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge

Please help . Ref number 26 is wrong on this page. I am too confused to fix it. Please help. sorrySrbernadette (talk) 23:13, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

I have fixed two errors, both in ref 27. Maproom (talk) 23:19, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

(edit conflict) If you are so confused that you can't see what is wrong with |accessdate=166 March 2016 then you really oughtn't to be editing Wikipedia. You have made the same sort of error on countless occasions, and continually come here to expect someone else to sort out the obvious errors for you. On the same edit you have yet again wrongly used the |publisher = parameter despite again having been told countless times about this. --David Biddulph (talk) 23:22, 15 March 2016 (UTC)