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November 1

Portal:Wikipedia gardening portal

If I type in Portal:Wikipedia into the search box, a suggestion titled Portal:Wikipedia gardening portal pops up, it is weird for that page is a redlink and has not previously been deleted nor is it linked from anywhere else, any ideas as to why is shows up? - CHAMPION ^{(talk) (contributions) (logs)} 00:11, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

Update, same applies for Portal:Wikipedia portals. - CHAMPION ^{(talk) (contributions) (logs)} 00:12, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

Wikipedia gardening portal and Wikipedia portals are redirects to the Portal namespace. This apparently confuses the search suggestion feature into thinking they are pages in the Portal namespace. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:56, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

This is phab:T115756: "Search suggests non-existent title due to namespace/redirect mixup". PrimeHunter (talk) 01:03, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

And working through the Phab ticket, the issue is that if Mainspace:C redirects to namespaceA:B then namespaceA:C shows up in the search choices even if it doesn't exist. Looks like some fairly knowledgeable people on the software have looked at it and it is sort of an edge case that was deliberately handled that way in some of the core coding. However it has a relatively low priority to be fixed.Naraht (talk) 14:42, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

Please go through and read documents

Today my phone started coding without me touching . I believe it's a massive part of the puzzle to stop corporations from playing the game without honesty. Please research in google search with this strange code 2/222/\]\\]]2222/2]]]]]]22222222222 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.205.198.55 (talk) 03:04, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

 Invalid It is unclear what you are asking for help with. - CHAMPION ^{(talk) (contributions) (logs)} 03:30, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

What to do with sources when translating?

I'm not quite sure where to go with questions about translating so here I am. I want to translate some parts of articles from the English Wikipedia into the Dutch Wikipedia, but I wasn't quite sure what to do with the sources. Should I just use the original article's formatting and put a link to the English article after the Dutch sentence, or are they not considered valuable sources if they're not Dutch? Do I have to put the English article as one of the sources or how do I go about doing this? - Edit: I found the answer to the last question about crediting the English wikipedia, but not about what to do with the sources. Romeowth (talk) 21:27, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

That would depend on the policies at Dutch Wikipedia. On English Wikipedia, for example, non-English sources are acceptable for use in articles, though English language sources are preferred (see WP:NONENG). Whatever the case, you definitely need to attribute the original English language article (WP:COPYWITHIN). There should be a template like {{translated article}} available for that purpose. You'd probably be better off asking at nl:Help:Helpdesk since users here can only provide help relating specifically to English Wikipedia. clpo13_(talk) 21:40, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

Referencing errors on Development Bank of Southern Africa

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Reference help requested. Dear Sir

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Development_Bank_of_Southern_Africa

Please can you remove all the references for the Development Bank of Southern Africa page because they are outdated. I have new references that I would like to put in but I am unable to remove the current references.

Thanks, Richard Bennett — Preceding unsigned comment added by RichardMBennett (talk • contribs) 06:39, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

Hello, RichardMBennett. I'm guessing you have been trying to edit the "References" section, but references are actually specified at the point in the page where they are used (where the superscript index number appears) and that's where you need to edit. Please see Referencing for beginners. --ColinFine (talk) 11:11, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

A good number of the edits made by RichardMBennett have been removed by another editor as promotional and the page has been restored to an earlier version. Eagleash (talk) 11:17, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

Runway Length at Cherokee County Airport in Ball Ground GA

We have edited the runway length and it is not displaying the correct length. If you need documentation please let us know. Our runway length is 5002' since 2011. We also have an eastside taxiway that is the length of the runway that opened yesterday October 31, 2016. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.44.192.62 (talk) 15:22, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

Our article about Cherokee County Regional Airport has given the runway length as 5002 feet since March 17, 2012. Can you please clarify your request? Maproom (talk) 15:46, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

Archiving "Talk:Newspaper endorsements in the United States presidential election, 2016"

Ok, so I'm trying to get Talk:Newspaper endorsements in the United States presidential election, 2016 to archive. So far, I have tried to get ClueBot III (which is what I have set up everywhere else on the project) and lowercase sigmabot III to archive the page, using the provide templates on Help:Archiving a talk page, with the time set to 30 days. So far, neither of them seem to want to archive the page. Can I get some help on fixing this issue? Elisfkc (talk) 17:25, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

@Elisfkc: There's only one thread there, the top one, that is older than 30 days. The archiving template includes the parameter minthreadstoarchive=2, which tells the bot not to touch the page until at least 2 threads can be archived at once. To make the bot spring into action, you'll need to reduce the 30, change that 2 to a 1, or wait about a week so that more threads are 30 days old. -- John of Reading (talk) 19:49, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

@John of Reading: thanks. I'll drop the minimum threads and the time, then up the time after the election. --Elisfkc (talk) 19:53, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

Family of Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge

Please help - ref number 146 is wrong on this page - it is from a newspaper (archived) article. Thanks Srbernadette (talk) 22:15, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

 Done The date format in the accessdate parameter was incorrect. Please see the documentation at {{cite web}} for what date formats are acceptable. clpo13_(talk) 22:20, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

Hello - thanks

Family of Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge

Could you please add these 3 links (pages): "Legal professions in England and Wales", "Leeds" and "West Riding of Yorkshire" in the categories section at the bottom of this page. The article discusses all 3 links quite heavily. Thank youSrbernadette (talk) 22:38, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

• The great thing about Wikipedia is that anyone can make edits like this. Be bold and add them, following the format of the others in there. If you make a mistake, no harm done as it's almost impossible to do permanent damage. Though I don't see a category matching the first one you named, so it would show up red and probably be subsequently removed. Crow^Caw 23:35, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

Create an article

How do you create an artice — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.102.65.0 (talk) 23:14, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

• See WP:YFA for the details. Crow^Caw 23:32, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
• To create an article, follow these steps:

1. Read Your first article carefully.
2. If you don't have an account, consider creating one (it's not essential, but it makes some things easier, especially communicating with other editors) and logging in.
3. Learn the basics of editing with the Wikipedia:Tutorial
4. Make sure the subject is notable enough to warrant a stand-alone article
5. Gather reliable sources to cite in the article
6. Make sure no article on the subject exists under a different title by typing the subject into the search box and clicking 'Search'
7. Use the Article Wizard to create a draft.
8. Create the article, including all your references, making sure you adhere to the Manual of Style and our article layout guidelines. Base the article on what the references say, rather than on what you know.
9. Once you believe that your draft meets Wikipedia's requirements, submit it for review by picking the "Submit your draft for review" button in the draft.
10. Be aware that many drafts are not accepted the first time, or even the second time they are submitted for review, for failing to adhere to our policies and guidelines. New articles by new users are particularly likely not to be accepted, due to new users' unfamiliarity with our rules. Consider gaining experience by editing existing articles before attempting to create new ones. Pppery 23:44, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

Please change your reference to my work experience with the Maria Cantwell campaign

Please change your reference to my work experience with the Maria Cantwell campaign, as I worked with the Seattle community in voter outreach to rally support in favor of Sen. Maria Cantwell. I did not and would not work for her campaign directly. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ppretty (talk • contribs) 23:26, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

• @Ppretty: Can you name the article where this problem lies? Crow^Caw 23:31, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

Judging by this edit, it may be Paulette Jordan. If it is, Ppretty, please be aware that Wikipedia strongly discourages people from editing material about themselves, as their conflict of interest may make it difficult for them to write in a suitably neutral manner. That edit, indeed, introduces some non-neutral language, (eg "from a deeply rooted ranching and farming heritage") but it's late here so I'm not going to look further at it tonight. --ColinFine (talk) 00:31, 2 November 2016 (UTC)