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November 26

template message / second opinion

Does this page deserve some kind of Wiki template from WP:TC? I feel like I need a second opinion. To me, the whole thing is an eyesore [by the way, I'm not the author]

Also on This page - the overly long subheader. I have no idea what it would be renamed --Jennica✿ ^{talk / contribs} 02:16, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

Simple reversion question

Recently I made an edit on the page Florence Henderson which was reverted and then reversed. When I questioned the editor, (for learning purposes only) they mentioned a method called: "fast" reversion that encompassed 20 edits (including mine) that allowed several reversions of vandalism at once; which then allowed the editor to simply reinstate my one "good" edit. I questioned this method, but I have yet to understand it clearly and fully here: Florence Henderson Talk. The history that I see only is this: [1] and since I am ignorant of this "fast" reversion edit, I only see one reversion along with mine. Could someone show me exactly where the other 18 are in this umbrella reversion? and how does one accomplish this "fast" reversion? Thanks so much! I appreciate it! Maineartists (talk) 02:35, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

@Maineartists: They bulk "reverted" back due to the vandalism before yours. it isn't a vendetta against your edit though. It seems like the editor explained it clearly on the talk page --Jennica✿ ^{talk / contribs} 02:42, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

@Jennica: Thank you. This has nothing to do with the editor. I wasn't offended. To someone who does not know this method, it simply looks as though an editor reverted mine and one other. I am trying to learn; and honestly, I still don't know how to "bulk revert". I guess I'm not asking the right question: how does one bulk revert / fast revert? Thanks. Maineartists (talk) 02:47, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

@Maineartists: - it's a permission for established users to counter vandalism. Say there were 10 vandalistic edits. Instead of manually doing it one by one, I can revert back to a previous version that wasn't littered with vandalism. --Jennica✿ ^{talk / contribs} 03:07, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

@Maineartists: The editor in question here was using Twinkle, but one could also accomplish the same thing by clicking on "edit" while viewing an old revision. Pppery 02:51, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

• @Jennica: Thanks. I am beginning to understand. I need to do more research on this. It seems like a useful -- yet confusing to those who are unfamiliar with it -- tool. I don't think I'll ever use it; but it's good to know I can. I appreciate your taking the time to explain. Maineartists (talk) 03:21, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

Extrapolating dates from sources

I do apologise if this gets asked frequently, or if it's explicitly covered in a policy somewhere, but I haven't been able to find anything about it using a few different sets of words. My question is this: is it acceptable to infer a date from a relative time clause in a dated source? For example, if I have a newspaper article claiming that something occurred "about 30 years ago", and the article can be verifiably dated to 2015, is it acceptable to use this source to support a statement that the event in question occurred "in the mid 1980s"? This is of course presuming that no more accurate source can be found. Does this count as WP:CALC? Or is it WP:SYNTH? Triptothecottage (talk) 04:45, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

I will be interested to see what others have to say, but what you suggest sounds fine to me - as long as you treat it with the appropriate precision (or lack thereof). So if the source says "about 30 years ago", or even "30 years ago", that isn't an exact figure. If it says "30 years last Friday", that's a much more specific figure. As you say, it is a routine calculation covered by WP:CALC. To cover the bases, you could include the relevant wording in the "quote=" parameter of the citation.

A related situation comes up with dates of birth when the source says the subject is "28 years old" (as at the date of the article". In that case, there is a template to cover it specifically: see {{Birth based on age as of date}}. --Gronk Oz (talk) 09:02, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

I thought there might be a template to cover this situation (similar to the one above), but I can't find one at Category:Date mathematics templates. To my mind, this reinforces that it is considered a straightforward, routine calculation. --Gronk Oz (talk) 09:18, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

There are editors who would reject such a calculation as original research. (I am not among them.) Maproom (talk) 10:19, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

Tag for copyvio removal

What is the tag to flag an article for removal of copyvios in its history. —teb728 t c 08:17, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

Hello @Teb728:, you are probably looking for Template:copyvio-revdel. A list of useful copyvio-related templates can be found at WP:COPYVIO#Templates. GermanJoe (talk) 08:32, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, that's just what I was looking for. —teb728 t c 13:29, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

Chart procession and succession navboxes on music articles

I can't find any definitive info about this. On So Gone, the navbox has its own section "Chart procession and succession". WP:ALBUMSEL mentions navboxes should be at the bottom, which I guess this falls under. Here's a bottom example: this page-- which I think is the correct way.. however, I just cannot find any documentation on it. --Jennica✿ ^{talk / contribs} 09:39, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

@Jennica:According to the Manual of Style, succession boxes are "bottom matter"! They would normally come straight after the References and External links, without a section header: Noyster (talk), 11:57, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

Looking for an English author to format and edit the translated version of a German Wikipedia article

Dear collegues, I am a German Wiki author and would like to have my latest article edited in the English Wikipedia. As I don't have any experiences there and the formats, keywords, items and structures look so different to ours, I would kindly like to ask, if perhaps any collegue, experienced with the English formats and rules, could help and edit the article in my place. It's about a painter, a huge edit including nice photographes (already for free use in the commons) and of course I would deliver the translation. Only the formating and all technical details would have to be done by a kind collegue. Could this be of interest for anybody out there? I would be extremely thankful. --Pas de chat (talk) 10:42, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

@Pas de chat: Ja ich möchte helfen :-) you can email me or leave a message on my talk page -- samtar ^{talk or stalk} 10:49, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

Flag usage on album pages?

Is this allowed? I am seeing it on a [less notable] album pages and I haven't been able to find anything about it on the album guide. See: Imeall for what I'm talking about. I feel it's pretty dated. What's the consensus? Thank you. --Jennica✿ ^{talk / contribs} 13:53, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

WP:INFOBOXFLAG should probably apply. That apart, if it were applied as in the example quoted, infoboxes could be crowded with flags as albums are not always released on a 'universal' date. Eagleash (talk) 13:58, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

Okay thanks @Eagleash:. It's probably because it's not listed in the examples. I assumed it wasn't allowed. It's been awhile since I saw it in another album infobox.. It's always the stuff that's not there that I'm looking for :P - --Jennica✿ ^{talk / contribs} 14:04, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

(IBAN CODE) In figure s International Account Number for Bank Windhoek in Namibia

Kindly help me to search for me the iban code or The International Account Number for the Bank called Bank Windhoek in Namibia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Songiso076 (talk • contribs) 16:26, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

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Wrongfully edited page of Yang Hyun-suk.

Respected editor, Page on Yang_Hyun-suk is wrongfully edited by some fans of 2ne1 kpop group which was under his management and disbanded on 25th november 2016. Not happy with this decision someone rudely edited his page. Please restore it back. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.203.120.187 (talk) 17:36, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for reporting this. It looks like several editors are already handling the issue, and a semi-protection of the page is requested at WP:RfPP. Anyone can revert obvious vandalism immediately, or request page protection in cases of serious ongoing problems. GermanJoe (talk) 17:54, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

Page now semi-protected by User:Zzuuzz - Arjayay (talk) 17:55, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

Asian Month signup help

Hello! Where should I copy the format #YourUsername (talk) in order to sign up for the 2016 Asian Month? And will the sign-up be valid across language versions? Thank you! Cristixav (talk) 20:06, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

Louise Mauger

I understand that the statue of Louise Mauger in Montreal was actually in honor of her as a pioneering women. The Statue was erected during the women's suffergette movement. And that she had three sons - all three depicted around the monument, "battling" to make a living in the wilderness and hostile land around Mont Ville. The original plaque explaining the statue was "lost" during the remodeling of the area. The artist did intend to honor Louise Mauger Gadoys. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MichaelGadoua (talk • contribs) 21:45, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

Hello, MichaelGadoua. If you have suggestions for improving the article Louise Mauger, its talk page Talk:Louise Mauger is the best place to post them. Please note that Wikipedia is only interested in information which is support by reliable published sources, so if you can find a published source for the information you want to add, it is much more likely that somebody will add it. (Or, if you have a source to cite, you can add it yourself). --ColinFine (talk) 22:13, 26 November 2016 (UTC)