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October 15

I uploaded a file (jpeg image) but forgot how to link or add it to a page

The photo I uploaded is here File:St. Barnabas High School Chapel.JPG and I want to link it to a page. I tried typing in for example File:Title Of Picture.jpg but the photo did not show up, what do I do, please help and most important Thank you :) TheBronxNYC (talk) 02:24, 15 October 2016 (UTC)

You can do it thus [[File:St. Barnabas High School Chapel.JPG|thumb|"place"|"caption"]]. You can also place it right or left. Eagleash (talk) 04:49, 15 October 2016 (UTC)

What you didn't mention in your question was that you were trying to add the image to a gallery, in which case you were correct that it didn't need the brackets. Your problem was that you forgot that case is significant in Wikipedia page names. The name which you gave the file has .JPG in capitals, and in your edits to the article St. Barnabas High School you were using .jpg in lower case. --David Biddulph (talk) 05:05, 15 October 2016 (UTC)

@TheBronxNYC: In other words, to add the file to a gallery you add only File:St. Barnabas High School Chapel.JPG with .JPG in capitals. —teb728 t c 05:25, 15 October 2016 (UTC)

You say only the code you've given, but it is permitted to include a caption as @TheBronxNYC: was doing (and as used for the other images already in that gallery), and it is permitted to include a link, see meta:Help:Images and other uploaded files#Gallery. --David Biddulph (talk) 05:33, 15 October 2016 (UTC)

About Logo in pa.wikipedia.org

Tracked in Phabricator
Task T148467

Hello friends, pa.wikipedia.org is not showing logo on the sidebar. What can be problem? ---Baljeet Bilaspur (talk) 10:23, 15 October 2016 (UTC)

This help page is for the English Wikipedia. For the Punjabi Wikipedia you'll have to ask there. --David Biddulph (talk) 11:00, 15 October 2016 (UTC)

... possibly at pa:ਮਦਦ:ਪ੍ਰਸ਼ਨ_ਪੁੱਛੋ ? --David Biddulph (talk) 11:04, 15 October 2016 (UTC)

Please tell me thesolution to this problem. What will the adminstrators would do if the same problem arises on this wiki. -----Baljeet Bilaspur

https://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/highlight.php?file=InitialiseSettings.php sets the pawiki logo to '/static/images/project-logos/pawiki.png', i.e. https://pa.wikipedia.org/static/images/project-logos/pawiki.png. pa:MediaWiki:Common.css tries to override it with https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/51/Wikipedia-logo-v6-pa.svg. I don't know what goes wrong, maybe it's the use of a svg file or a new loading order after a MediaWiki change. The two images look similar to me so I don't see a need for an override and possible complications. Try getting a local admin to delete this line in your Common.css:

#p-logo a { background-image: url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/51/Wikipedia-logo-v6-pa.svg") !important; }

If there is local consensus for another logo then you can file a request at phab:. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:13, 15 October 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, I do think, that you can't use a SVG file there. But I may be wrong. At least in .js I have always seen, that people are using png versions of svg's. --Edgars2007 (talk/contribs) 15:28, 15 October 2016 (UTC)

If you really want that image then this automatic png conversion may work in Common.css:

#p-logo a { background-image: url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/51/Wikipedia-logo-v6-pa.svg/135px-Wikipedia-logo-v6-pa.svg.png") !important; }

PrimeHunter (talk) 14:20, 16 October 2016 (UTC)

Local Common.css overrides are actually hacky ways to edit the interface though, as the size of wgLogo is preset with the WMF logo policies. Long-term logo changes should be asked as a configuration change to a static image (uploaded to Commons) for the Wikimedia-Site-requests project in Phabricator, since using generated thumbnailing from SVG on a very hightraffic image (as the logo is shown on EVERY page of the wiki) is a burden on the media-cache layer (producing thumbnail bugs such as T145811). For setting high-resolution logo, 1.5x and 2x logos should be uploaded to Commons, protected and a Phabricator task should be filed to set these logos as wgLogoHD. See T145017 as a reference and example of the points I'm trying to say. Obviously local consensus needed for all configuration changes, so bring this up for discusson locally on pawiki, and after getting consensus file a task to Phabricator to make the change. --Arseny1992 (talk) 08:38, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

Bug report tracked in phab:T148467; please check for potential updates. Thanks! --AKlapper (WMF) (talk) 10:34, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

Edit Notice Help

I have an edit notice that displays at the top of my talk page when someone starts to add to it, describing some of the reasons why someone will comment on my talk page, such as review for Articles for Creation and the dispute resolution noticeboard, and I recently expanded it. What I would like to do is to put a blank line in it so that it displays as two paragraphs. I don't seem to be able to do that. First, can someone tell me how to do that? Second, can someone direct me to a specific help file for this special purpose? Robert McClenon (talk) 15:25, 15 October 2016 (UTC)

Robert, it's one of those things with passing text as a parameter to a template, the normal automatic paragraph handling via double newline does not work. If you wrap the paragraphs in a HTML paragraph element, you should get the desired result. I.e.

{{editnotice
| text =
<p>
Paragraph one.
</p>
<p>
Paragraph two.
</p>
}}

Wikipedia:Editnotice has the general help on edit notices, but does not cover this specific issue (as far as I could see from a quick glance at it). It's really a general issue with template processing, so might be documented somewhere in that area, but I don't have a specific help page to point to.

Murph9000 (talk) 15:47, 15 October 2016 (UTC)

cant find my wikipedia when i search for it on google

hey guys i need your help i have an account now but when people try to search for it or my names on google it cant be found i need your help because i need it to be seen by the public thnx+ — Preceding unsigned comment added by BYRONS MEIJOR (talk • contribs) 18:45, 15 October 2016 (UTC)

BYRONS MEIJOR - You appear to misunderstand what Wikipedia is about, we are an encyclopedia, not a social media, advertising or promotional site. Individual user's accounts are unindexed, so will not appear on Google, and we are not here to promote you, or help you "be seen by the public" - Arjayay (talk) 18:52, 15 October 2016 (UTC)

Revising a disambiguation page

Hello all. Recently, NHS became a redirect to National Health Service with the disambiguation page since being renamed NHS (disambiguation). Given the example with DHS (disambiguation), the NHS disambiguation page probably needs to be revised. I'm not sure exactly what to do. Please help. Thank-you.--Nevé–selbert 19:00, 15 October 2016 (UTC)

Well, I happen to think that the redirect is wrong, and the disambiguation page should be primary. I think that this should be discussed on the disambiguation talk page. Robert McClenon (talk) 19:17, 15 October 2016 (UTC)

There was a move discussion. It was not participated in very well, but it did establish a consensus of 3-0. What are you saying should be done? To undo the move? If so, you can request Move Review. A Request for Comments is sometimes a better participated in consensus process;but I don't know whether an RFC can be used to reverse a Move Discussion. What is your question? The community has ruled. I disagree, but I will accept their opinion. What are you saying? Robert McClenon (talk) 19:22, 15 October 2016 (UTC)

@Robert McClenon: I'm unsure how to reorganise the disambiguation page now that National Health Service is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC.--Nevé–selbert 19:25, 15 October 2016 (UTC)

To just delve further, the #United Kingdom section would probably need to be restructured in some way.--Nevé–selbert 19:28, 15 October 2016 (UTC)

I've taken a stab at revising NHS (disambiguation), using the "CIA" example in MOS:DABPRIMARY as a guide. As always, improvements or corrections are welcome. Deor (talk) 20:08, 15 October 2016 (UTC)

Much appreciated. Thanks Deor.--Nevé–selbert 20:24, 15 October 2016 (UTC)

Category:Iranian Azerbaïdjani politicians

The formulation of this category is very unclear and confusing. Is it about politicians originally from Azerbaidjan, or about politicians from anywhere doing politics in Azerbaidjan? It should definitely not be about both. Looking at the entries in this category, my guess is that it is about politicians originally from Azerbaidjan, and I will remove from it the others. Sapphorain (talk) 22:49, 15 October 2016 (UTC)

For the record, it's Category:Iranian Azerbaijani politicians. Apart from the OP's question, I'm not sure why Category:Khanates of the Iranian Azerbaijan is included here. Rojomoke (talk) 06:14, 16 October 2016 (UTC)

@Sapphorain: It is unfortunate that the category does not have text defining the scope. But I would assume from the name of the category that it refers to politicians who are Iranian Azerbaijanis, in other words people in Iran who are ethnically Azerbaijanis. (That is quite different from any of your assumptions.) —teb728 t c 08:23, 16 October 2016 (UTC)

• Methinks Category_talk:Iranian_Azerbaijani_politicians is the page to discuss such content issues (which do seem legitimate). If you feel the category should be deleted or renamed, you can have a go at the process outlined in WP:CFD. Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 10:40, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

Question

I want to edit a wiki page referencing archived newspaper articles that are in PDF form. How is that done? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Swapoo24 (talk • contribs) 22:56, 15 October 2016 (UTC)

• Template:Cite news has provisions for specifying archived urls, if that is what you are asking? Crow^Caw 23:05, 15 October 2016 (UTC)