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September 17

2017 in baseball

Can You Please Start the 2017 in baseball article please. 2600:8803:7A00:19:305B:692B:6CCF:46DA (talk) 00:49, 17 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I guess it was you who created Draft:2017 in baseball. We don't make placeholder articles without content but if you add something to the draft then you can try clicking "Submit your draft for review!". PrimeHunter (talk) 00:59, 17 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

That is, you can write useful content such as where the all-star game is to be played or whatever. Then (if the article passes muster) it can be published. Herostratus (talk) 01:10, 17 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I Think I got it but I don't know how to make a new Article. 2600:8803:7A00:19:305B:692B:6CCF:46DA (talk) 02:56, 17 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Unregistered users cannot create articles directly in mainspace. You submitted the draft correctly but it was still empty so it was of course declined. Please follow our advice to add content before you even think about resubmitting it. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:27, 17 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

"this article's entry" displayed as red link.

List of international variations of Where's Wally? (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

See my comment at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of international variations of Where's Wally?. - Champion (talk) (contribs) (Formerly TheChampionMan1234) 03:46, 17 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Champion: I assume that you mean the link in the AfD notice at the top of the article? If so, it's fixed now for me. It happens sometimes if the AfD notice is placed on the article before the AfD discussion page is created. Articles are cached, so red links don't instantly change to blue. The length of time depends on many factors, mostly server load and current job queue length. If that's what you were seeing, it's normal and nothing to worry about. If not, please be specific about exactly which page this is showing on, and where on the page. Murph9000 (talk) 04:26, 17 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, it is fixed for me now. Perhaps its a bug on Twinkle's part because I used it to nominate that. - Champion (talk) (contribs) (Formerly TheChampionMan1234) 04:28, 17 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Champion: Not exactly a bug as such. It's kinda just a feature of MediaWiki. Page caching is needed for server performance, and things like this are the result. WP:TW triggers the feature if it tags the article before creating the AfD page (I think it does this, but not 100% — check your contribs, and you should see the order there). If it created the AfD page first, then tagged the article, it might not happen, but there might be reasons why it doesn't do it that way around. Murph9000 (talk) 04:32, 17 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Yes I do notice that it sometimes creates the AfD before it tags the article and vice-versa. Funnily enough, I've also always thought of that as a bug. - Champion (talk) (contribs) (Formerly TheChampionMan1234) 04:37, 17 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Champion: I feel it's kinda borderline for bug or not. It's not in as much as it all works out just fine in the end. If server load is low and the job queue is short, you may not even notice it. It all depends on just how the code in TW is done. If it could easily be made to go in a deterministic order which avoided this MW feature, that would probably be a good idea, but it's possible that the code doesn't make that as easy as it is to say here, or there might be some reason such as performance for it being as it is. Murph9000 (talk) 04:40, 17 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Twinkle edits so quickly that it often leaves a red link on the article even if the logs show the AfD page was created first. "red link" prefix:Wikipedia talk:Twinkle/ shows many reports. In this case the logs [1] show the article was first but's it's possible Twinkle sent the AfD edit first and MediaWiki took longer to process that edit. Note the oldid's on the timestamps are out of order: 739803200, ...203, ...202, ...201. Both the timestamp and oldid indicate the article was first but that may not correspond to what Twinkle did. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:53, 17 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Blueair deleted, request to be added again

Blueair (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Hello,

The page for a company I work for was recently deleted after having been on Wikipedia for four years.

I have requested the administrator responsible to reconsider and provide advice on how to correct any miscomprehensions, but I have not heard anything back at all. The page was Blueair. Blueair is a Swedish company that celebrates 20 years anniversary this year of supplying indoor air purifiers that have won numerous awards for their efficiency in helping people in China, the USA and India breathe clean air. U.S. embassies around the world rely on Blueair air purifiers to keep their staff breathing healthy air.

For example, just a few examples of what's been written about us in recent years below:

Can you kindly assist me get our Blueair page back on Wikipedia,

Many thanks,

David

Blueair Air Purifiers (talk) 07:37, 17 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Blueair Air Purifiers: Hi David. Most of us can't see the content of deleted pages, so it's difficult for us to be specific about what the issue was. The deletion log says that it was deleted by Seraphimblade, one of the administrators, under CSD G11, for being too promotional. The relevant policy is WP:NOTFORPROMOTION. That mention of their name will have alerted the deleting administrator to this thread, so we might get a comment from them if they are not busy (no promises, and it may take a little time, depending on their schedule, etc). Please be patient, and hopefully a more specific answer may be forthcoming. In the meantime, here is our standard response for deleted pages, and our standard response for new pages (since you are basically asking that a page be created), as they have some links which may help:

Please see Why was my page deleted? :The most common reasons are:

To find the specific reason a particular page was deleted:

Go to the Deletion Log
Type the page title in the case-sensitive search field
The date, time and reason for deletion will be displayed

To create an article, follow these steps:

Read Your first article carefully.
If you don't have an account, consider creating one (it's not essential, but it makes some things easier, especially communicating with other editors) and logging in.
Learn the basics of editing with the Wikipedia:Tutorial
Make sure the subject is notable enough to warrant a stand-alone article
Gather reliable sources to cite in the article
Make sure no article on the subject exists under a different title by typing the subject into the search box and clicking 'Search'
Use the Article Wizard to create a draft.
Create the article, including all your references, making sure you adhere to the Manual of Style and our article layout guidelines. Base the article on what the references say, rather than on what you know.
Once you believe that your draft meets Wikipedia's requirements, submit it for review by picking the "Submit your draft for review" button in the draft.
Be aware that many drafts are not accepted the first time, or even the second time they are submitted for review, for failing to adhere to our policies and guidelines. New articles by new users are particularly likely not to be accepted, due to new users' unfamiliarity with our rules. Consider gaining experience by editing existing articles before attempting to create new ones.

Murph9000 (talk) 08:23, 17 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, I receive pings. To the OP here, I'm not sure how you state that you didn't hear back from me, given that I replied to you on 9 September: [2]. In case you missed it, the synopsis is that the content of the article was unsalvageable, promotional, and contained serious problems like several reference falsifications. Aside from that, we don't allow promotional material anywhere on Wikipedia at all, so we would be placed in the rather strange situation that if the article were restored, it would be subject to immediate deletion again. It would be better to start from scratch. Since you have a conflict of interest (which is declared this time, and thank you for that), you should start the article as a draft, and have it reviewed by articles for creation once you believe it's ready to go into the encyclopedia, so that someone without a COI can check over it and call attention to problems if any exist. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 08:37, 17 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Problem with verifying new email

Resolved

Hi,

My old email address is no longer valid, so yesterday I put my new gmail address in (which has been up for over a week now), and waited for the verification email. And waited. I requested it be sent again today, and still not got it. I've checked in my spam folder for the mail; not there. I've also checked and triple checked that I put the address in correctly; I had.

So, could someone please suggest what I have done wrong, and then could you also please provide me with a handkerchief so that I might be able to wipe the inevitable egg from my face?

Many thanks in advance,

Stephen! ^Coming... 10:11, 17 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Stephen!, could be a silly question and is just a stab in the dark, but have you tried changing it at meta:Special:Preferences? (given central SUL accounts and all that) Murph9000 (talk) 10:17, 17 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Sjb72: PING, since I don't know if it will have worked through your redirect. Murph9000 (talk) 10:21, 17 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Some email providers block Wikipedia mail. Yahoo is best known for it. phab:T66795 says Gmail has had issues in the past. I don't know their current status. Please link your current username in your signature. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:22, 17 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@PrimeHunter: I get WP notifications ok at Gmail. Confirmations could be different (it worked back when I registered, obviously). Murph9000 (talk) 10:25, 17 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Cheers for the suggestions. I had a try on Meta:Preferences to see if it was showing my old address, but that was already showing my new email address. I requested a new verification be sent; still not got it. Ah well, I'll have to be without email contact until I can get a new address to use. Stephen! ^Coming... 11:09, 17 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

That's odd, I just recently added a gmail address to my account, and it went through on the first try. However, the odd thing is that wikipedia emails turn up in my social or promotions tab. You might want to check the all mail tab (which you can easily access by adding ?tab=wm#all to the url). -- The Voidwalker ^Whispers 16:57, 17 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, Google seems to decide which tab stuff goes in partly based on moon phases or something, as I have some stuff which seems to alternate between main and the other two tabs. Also, remember to search for "WikiMedia" as well as WP, in case it's using a WMF address. Murph9000 (talk) 17:10, 17 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I just checked, and Gmail hid my old WP email confirmation message under the social tab (or at least it's hiding them there today, I'm not certain that the filtering to tabs is static). The RFC 822 headers were:

From: Wikipedia <wiki@wikimedia.org>

Subject: Wikipedia email address confirmation

Murph9000 (talk) 17:20, 17 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Found it! It was in the Social Tab - I completely forgot about that one. Cheers, Voidwalker! Stephen! ^Coming... 08:48, 19 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Stephen, in Gmail, I sometimes simply click on the All Mail tab when I am using the desktop. This shows not only the normal and Social mail, but also those under the Promotion tab and those which might have been automatically archived (e.g. the email I receive from my Facebook page). You could try that too. Lourdes 08:51, 19 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Unable to post my article on wikipedia

User:Dharmendrasingh111/sandbox (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi, I am not able to post my article on wikipedia that is about me. Every time it gets rejected. Kindly help me.

Thanks in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dharmendrasingh111 (talk • contribs) 12:46, 17 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately Wikipedia is not a form of social networking where users can create article about themselves. It is an encyclopedia where pages are created for subjects, that must first pass Wiki's fairly stringent rules on notability, by editors with no direct connection to that subject. These must be backed up by referencing to independent reliable sources which discuss the subject in some detail (see WP:RS for more information). The declinature notice refers you to WP:REFB and you should also read that page together with WP:COI and WP:AUTOBIOG. Eagleash (talk) 13:11, 17 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Display size using wikipedia

When I use Wikipedia from my laptop, type is displayed much larger than I expect, so large that navigation through Wikepedia articles is difficult. This only happens from my laptop, so presumably I inadvertently changed some settings. However, these settings only apply to Wikipedia; other sites operate normally. How do I reduce the size of text display when I look at Wikipedia from my laptop?

Thanks, Ianwrangler (talk) 16:25, 17 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Ianwrangler: Given that you have only just created your Wikipedia account, my guess would be that it's not related to your account settings (I'd hope you would remember if you had set something like that in the last hour). My instincts tell me that it's probably something you have configured on your browser. I suggest that you try an alternate browser (e.g. Firefox instead of Chrome, or vice versa), and see what happens. Make sure that you are directly accessing https://en.wikipedia.org/, not some other URL, and clear your browser's cache in case something erroneous is lurking in there. I can't offer much more than that, but maybe someone else may have some other ideas. Murph9000 (talk) 16:41, 17 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I assume you have tried control and scroll and/or control and 0 (use the zero in the top line not the number pad if you have one)? - Arjayay (talk) 16:50, 17 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Help to remove proposed deletion template on my article?

I created my first article yesterday about HP Eletebook 8460P. I was contacted by a user saying none-notable hardware and a template was placed on my article saying this article is proposed for deletion if the template isn't removed in seven days. I have since improved the article but can't remove the template. I have read the link about how to remove the template. I use a screenreader and I can go onto edit source under a heading but I can't delete the code for the template. Thanks for the helpGeekgirl1990 (talk) 21:27, 17 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Simply removing the template does not fix the problem identified by the template. The main problem concerns the fact that the specific model that is the subject of your article (HP Eletebook 8460P [sic]) is not notable enough to be distinct from the more general article, HP EliteBook, which includes the 8460P model. Or, at least, notability has not been established by independent and reliable sources. Perhaps some of the information from your article could be added to the other, instead of creating a separate article. 2606:A000:4C0C:E200:B42A:AC7B:A3D5:C78D (talk) 21:53, 17 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Geekgirl1990: I've removed the PROD template for you. Ppp ery 21:55, 17 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Page is too large for window

I've recently re-formatted the styling of my userpage. Now, it renders as too large for the window, causing you to have to scroll it see the right portion of it. How can I change the wikitext to make it all fit in the window? Thanks in advance. Ergo Sum 22:35, 17 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Ergo Sum: It's caused by the long string in your committed identity. You could for example insert {{shy}} in the middle. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:20, 17 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@PrimeHunter: Thanks. Ergo Sum 00:22, 18 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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