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September 18

A query on AFD Merge closures

Hello all. I had a quick query. When an Afd is closed by an editor with the "Merge" result (that the contents of the nominated article be merged into some particular article), and when the merge templates have also been placed properly on both the nominated and target article, whose responsibility primarily is it to conduct the actual merge? Is the Afd closing editor responsible for even conducting the actual material merge between the two articles, or can the Afd closer stop at simply closing the particular Afd and tagging the articles with the relevant templates? I am curious because in a merge that I have performed while closing an Afd, because I haven't had deep understanding of the article subject, I feel I may not be better placed at merging the articles than editors frequenting the specific articles. Any inputs would be helpful. Lourdes 01:51, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

WP:SLAVE is a relevant, if overly strongly-worded, page. —Cryptic 02:07, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

@Lourdes: Close and tag, then letting others do the heavy lifting seems perfectly reasonable to me, especially if they are more likely to be able to do a good job of it (due to deep understanding). If a closer wants to be involved in the followup work, great, but I don't see any real obligation there. The only real exception might be if the changes or subject were highly contentious and need someone more neutral to handle or oversee the merge; but if everyone has been collaborating constructively that should not be a factor. Even if that is needed, it still does not put an obligation on the closer. Just be clear in the closure and/or talk pages that you are leaving the work for others to implement. Wikipedia:There is no deadline is also slightly relevant, i.e. it does not matter if it happens right now or later. I'm all for boldly just getting the job done, but nobody should feel obliged to work on something where they feel they are not the best person for the job or just don't feel like doing it right now. Murph9000 (talk) 07:52, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

Murph9000, Cryptic, thanks. Seems sensible. Will keep this in mind. Lourdes 12:25, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

Princess Eugenie of York

• Princess Eugenie of York (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

I have removed the tag at the top of the page now that there are more refs. added. Have I done the right thing? Also, please help with the way I have done ref number 21 - also a new ref. Cheerio and thankyou101.182.142.35 (talk) 02:11, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

I see you have removed the tag yourself. I have tidied ref. 21. Maproom (talk) 07:32, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

Help:Maintenance template removal gives excellent and detailed advice on when the tags should and should not be removed. In short, don't remove them unless the issue is fully resolved or no longer relevant. In borderline cases, or if you are not sure, leave the tag in place and share your thoughts on the article's talk page. Inappropriate or premature removal of tags is a bad thing, as it makes quality issues less likely to get attention. Murph9000 (talk) 08:10, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

Can you fix Carly Rae Jepsen's Discography Page please?

• Carly Rae Jepsen discography (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Hey guys, I tried to add the Japanese sales of the album "Emotion" by Carly Rae Jepsen, which has been certified Gold by ORICON and RIAJ, selling over 100,000 copies. I don't understand how to put the link of the sources, could you guys help me please? Thank you! :)

https://musiccanada.wordpress.com/2016/04/02/carly-rae-jepsens-emotion-goes-gold-in-japan/ https://twitter.com/carlyraejepsen/status/716411214889226240 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zenolee95 (talk • contribs) 03:35, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

 Already done @Zonolee95: as this diff shows, it was already done when it originally met RIAJ gold status, and the cited source that is listed now even links directly to the RIAJ database of the album. RegistryKey^(RegEdit) 08:25, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

Can't save an edit

I have an account. I logged in and tried to amend an entry. It allowed me to change text but I can't get past the captcha box. It won't save the edit. Any ideas? I'm using a nexus tablet in case that is an issue. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rose of York (talk • contribs) 08:28, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

@Rose of York: Welcome to Wikipedia! I'm not sure what is going on with captchas for you. It may help get you an answer if you tell us the specific page you were trying to edit and a brief summary of the changes you were trying to make. Murph9000 (talk) 08:33, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

This problem was once previously reported at Pump Tech. Let's see…..... 180.151.17.183 (talk) 08:53, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

Rose Villa Heritage Homes is not published yet

• User:Myoga25/sandbox (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Greetings

I have written about Rose Villa Heritage Homes and it is not published yet.

I also tried to attach a picture and it sint work either. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Myoga25 (talk • contribs) 08:37, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

@Myoga25: it is because you created your article in userspace. I would invite you to read Wikipedia:So you made a userspace draft. Additionally, looking at your userspace draft, it fails to establish notability and reads entirely in a promotional tone, and likely is not acceptable for inclusion at Wikipedia as it is now. As such, if you were to move it to article space it likely will be speedy deleted. RegistryKey^(RegEdit) 08:43, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

Hello

Hello, I am Varun can someone explain me what this article - Introduction of GIS is trying to explain? I was looking for an article on GPS but came across it. Plus do we keep phone nos. in articles? Thanks a lot 180.151.17.183 (talk) (Varun's IP) 08:52, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

That page appears to be WP:COPYVIO WP:SPAM, will be speedily deleted, and the user who created it may well get a WP:BLOCK. No, in general, we do not have phone numbers in articles. The Global Positioning System article should be what you are looking for. Murph9000 (talk) 09:06, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

@VarunFEB2003: PING! Only just noticed the account link. Murph9000 (talk) 09:30, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

Murph9000 (talk) also I emailed Oversight to make those phone numbers disappear. RegistryKey^(RegEdit) 09:36, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

@Murph9000: Thanks got the article and thanks for the talkback! 180.151.17.183 (talk) 09:39, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

The only time that I can ever recall a phone number being in an article is if the number was notable for some reason such as with Empire Today. There's hardly a single resident of the greater Chicago area from the 1980s until today who doesn't know their number. Another example is "867-5309/Jenny". †Dismas†|^(talk) 12:38, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, if the number has real notability itself (or is truly remarkable and/or worthy of mention in a related article, rather than just another telephone number), there shouldn't be an issue. Whitehall 1212 (from the days before all-figure dialling), 112, 911, and 999 are examples of other telephone numbers with sufficient notability to get their own articles. WP:NOTYELLOW excludes all general cases (particularly business contact details), and we officially do not care if it is easy or convenient "for customers looking for the number" (or similar). Murph9000 (talk) 12:54, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

Copyright of logical rules images

Moved to WP:CQ § Copyright of logical rules images

 – Margalob, I have moved this to WP:CQ, as the dedicated place for copyright questions. I feel it's better to let the people there answer, so that you get the correct advice. Murph9000 (talk) 18:24, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

How long does it take for articles to show up?

I submitted two articles (not long ones) over 10 days ago, but they aren't posted yet. One was on the film director Michal Siewierski and the other on the author and activist Richard Oppenlander. Is it normal for it to take so long? Pepspotbib (talk) 20:15, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Well, one of the drafts (Draft:Michal Siewierski) was declined because it appeared to be two or three articles in one. In order for it to be accepted, it must only contain material related to Michal Siewierski. The other (User:Pepspotbib/sandbox) was never submitted to begin with. This can be accomplished by placing {{subst:submit}} on the top of it. -- The Voidwalker ^Whispers 20:24, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

Your submission at Draft:Michal Siewierski was declined on September 5; see that page for the decliner's reasoning. I can't find any record that you submitted a draft of an individual article on Richard Oppenlander. You seem to have included sections in your article in Siewierski that pertain to a number of other people. If you are requesting that someone else prepare articles on those people, you should do so at Wikipedia:Requested articles. General Ization ^Talk 20:19, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

(edit conflict) @Pepspotbib: Note also the reviewer's comments in the notice both at the top of the draft and on your personal talk page:

This appears to be two articles in one, about Michal Siewierski and Richard Oppenlander. Please split it into two drafts. Also, part of this draft is duplicated.

It might even need to be split into three drafts. Each draft needs to be a self-contained proposed article. It looks to me like all of the draft articles would need some development / expansion before they would be suitable for publication. The AfC process and reviewers will give advice (and help here and there with things like formatting), but you need to be prepared to do most of an article's development work (unless you find someone willing to work on it with you).

Murph9000 (talk) 20:34, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

I separated the two and thought by saving changes it would resubmit, does that not resubmit them? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pepspotbib (talk • contribs) 21:25, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

No, it doesn't, Pepspotbib. Sometimes a lot of work is needed before a draft is ready to resubmit, so it would be troublesome if it submitted on each save. It needs an editor to decide that it is time to resubmit and do so manually. --ColinFine (talk) 21:40, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

Delete This Page

Delete this page at: Pusquion Card Game although there is no copyright infringement I did.

Levent Suberk — Preceding unsigned comment added by Levent Suberk (talk • contribs) 20:35, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

 Done —C.Fred (talk) 20:37, 18 September 2016 (UTC)