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September 19

Requested edit

Ian Dempsey's middle name is Desmond not Michael. --Jenniferdollard (talk | contributions) 19 September 2016

This should really be placed on the talk-page of the article concerned, and a source provided. Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 10:54, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

Answered on Talk:Ian Dempsey - Arjayay (talk) 11:00, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

I can't use 'edit source' if signed in

I am user:Leschnei but currently I am having a problem with editing while signed in. Visual editor works just fine but if I click 'edit source', the browser partially loads the page and then I get the spinning ball of death. I have tried multiple wikipedia articles, several browsers, cleared my cache and website data, and re-started my computer, but nothing worked. I presume that if my account were blocked I would not be able to use visual editor either. I sent an email to info-en-o@wikimedia.org before I figured out that I can edit without signing in, allowing me to post here, but I thought that I would pursue other avenues as well. Could you please point me in the right direction for this type of technical help - I can't stand editing only with visual editor! Thanks, Leschnei — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:B8:6448:AF00:80BA:629C:5662:13B3 (talk) 12:39, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

Does MonoBook or Commons work? PrimeHunter (talk) 12:55, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

Yes to both, and I just discovered that I can edit on my iPad. But my computer still doesn't work (I just checked). I'm going to try a different computer.... Leschnei — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.100.72.175 (talk) 13:08, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

It sounds like something in User:Leschnei/vector.js. You can try editing it in MonoBook, for example starting by blanking it. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:17, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

Hey Leschnei. You probably have the syntax highlighter gadget enabled in Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets. Please disable it and everything will be back to normal. See the explanation at User talk:Remember the dot#Syntax highlighter broken? - NQ (talk) 13:24, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

Yay, blanking the vector.js fixed the problem! I'll check on syntax highlighter and put things back one at a time. Good excuse for some vector housecleaning. Thank you to you all. Leschnei (talk) 13:27, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

NANI KRISH

hi i want your people to help us in approving this article and remove deletion tag and pls help us improving it NANI KRISH

NaniKrish is an notable person i dont know why people are showing personal politics in wiki also — Preceding unsigned comment added by Conquer192 (talk • contribs) 13:55, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

• @Conquer192: First of all, "our people" are under no obligation to improve that article (although they might decide to).

More to the point, if you wish to argue against deletion of that article, the "Articles for Deletion" page is the place to go (you already commented there). If you have reliable sources dealing with Nani Krish in detail, that would establish that they are a "notable" person (but be careful that "notable" has a specific meaning on Wikipedia); in that case, please provide them (but not here, in the article or in the AfD page). Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 15:54, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

Wikipedia entry for Gabrielle L. Kurlander, President and CEO, All Stars Project, Inc.

To whom it may concern,

I am reaching out to check the status of a Wikipedia entry that was submitted by Kevin Jordan in May on behalf of Gabrielle L. Kurlander, President and CEO of All Stars Project, Inc. We had made a number of refinements per Wikipedia’s editorial recommendations and are now now waiting for final approval. Can you please give me a sense of the timing for this or if there is any additional information that needs to be provided in order to have this published?

Please let me know if there is someone that I should contact directly about this. Thank you and I appreciate your assistance.

All the best,

Lauren — Preceding unsigned comment added by 100.12.162.139 (talk) 15:05, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

• If you remember that info, it would be helpful to provide the username of the person who submitted that page, since User:Kevin Jordan does not exist. You probably refer to Draft:Gabrielle_Kurlander, which was deleted in July - click the red link for more information.

I urge you to read this Wikipedia guideline before working again on the page, because it may just be that this person is not a suitable topic for Wikipedia, as well as that one, if your professional duties include Wikipedia editing. Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 15:48, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

• Hi, I'm an administrator on the English Wikipedia. From what I can see, Draft:Gabrielle Kurlander was created in January 2016 in just 2 edits from an IP contributor. SwisterTwister declined the submission of Gabrielle Kurlander over concerns that the draft was overly promotional, read like a resume, and that the sources were perhaps not very strong. (One of the references was a mirror of Wikipedia) There were no further refinements made to the article after it was declined. It was flagged for speedy deletion after 6 months had elapsed with no new improvements. Hope that helps. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 20:05, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

The draft has been restored from deletion so that it can be worked on. Please read the conflict of interest policy and the paid editing policy and make any necessary disclosures. Please try to avoid using the first person plural pronoun "we" except to refer to Wikipedia, because we (Wikipedia) have a policy of one person, one account. Robert McClenon (talk) 02:14, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

Use of voter registration records to establish party affiliation?

Hey all, in my admin capacity, I'm dealing with an edit-warring situation in a BLP where two users can't agree on whether or not some candidates are Republicans or Democrats. Anyone know offhand whether or not editors can use voter registration records to establish a political candidate's party affiliation? WP:BLPPRIMARY says:

"Exercise extreme caution in using primary sources. Do not use trial transcripts and other court records, or other public documents, to support assertions about a living person. Do not use public records that include personal details, such as date of birth, home value, traffic citations, vehicle registrations, and home or business addresses."

That phrasing would tell me that we can't use voter registration records for this purpose. If you have specific expertise in political BLPs, your input would be appreciated. Thanks! Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:54, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

@Cyphoidbomb: Just a thought, but it might be worth asking at WikiProject Politics. Murph9000 (talk) 20:04, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

@Murph9000: - Reasonable. Will do. Thanks. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 20:05, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

That could be considered improper editorial synthesis (WP:SYNTH). Just because somebody is registered with a specific political party, does not definitively establish party affiliation. It's possible for a "registered" Democrat to run as a Republican, or visa-vera (or Socialist, Green Party, etc.). Certainly, the candidate in question publicly declared what party they are running for -- that would be the candidate's "party affiliation" -- or so it would seem apparent. 2606:A000:4C0C:E200:6498:CFA0:2171:1ED (talk) 21:53, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

A good point as well. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 01:09, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

mistaken identity

Hello,

Last night I submitted an article ABOUT Polly Young-Eisendrath. My name is Paula Emery. I wrote the article about Polly. I really think she is a notable person. My first draft was crap and was rejected for that reason, but also because I used her name as my log in name, thinking I was doing the smart thing.

I created a login name for myself and then submitted again and was rejected again -- because the article was still not quite good enough.

Last night I submitted my third attempt and I got two messages today saying that it was rejected because I was submitting the article about myself, and any further articles about Polly Young-Eisendrath are blocked.

The weird thing is that I was logged in as myself: Paula Emery when I submitted the article. Again, I think it's a pretty good article, too. (And she is a notable person. I think that once her page is up she'll get lots of hits. She should have had a page a long time ago, in my opinion.)

I'm not very computer savvy and this whole process has been more than a little challenging. I am officially requesting assistance.

Can someone help me to put the article submitted on Sunday, September 18 about Polly Young-Eisendrath up for review, or better yet, just up?

Sincerely,

PaulaEmery (talk) 22:09, 19 September 2016 (UTC)Paula EmeryPaulaEmery (talk) 22:09, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

@PaulaEmery:  Since nobody has responded yet, I'll give it a go since I took the opportunity to skim through your draft (User:PaulaEmery/sandbox). It is very likely that the subject is notable in the Wikikpedia sense. That is not the problem, although notability needs to be established with reliable sources that are not associated with the subject, and cover the subject in some depth (substantially more than a mere mention); also, the "mistaken identity" is not really a problem, but you should consider whether or not you have a conflict of interest (if you have a close association with the subject). See: WP:COI.

The draft, however, is not ready to be published to mainspace. There are a number of helpful links on your talkpage to help guide you through the process of creating a proper Wikipedia article. Additionally, please see: :*Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Biographies

Also, getting started can be daunting; its really not as complicated as it seems. You might want to check out Wikipedia: Teahouse, "A friendly place to help new editors become accustomed to Wikipedia culture, ask questions, and develop community relationships".

--I hope this helps,  ~:2606:A000:4C0C:E200:6498:CFA0:2171:1ED (talk) 01:59, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

You have created three drafts on her, Draft: Polly Young-Eisendrath, Draft: Polly Young-Eisenddrath, and User:PaulaEmery/sandbox. What is the correct spelling of her name? Robert McClenon (talk) 02:08, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

• Comment There is a related thread to this question at Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk#19:18:30, 18 September 2016 review of submission by PaulaEmery. Eagleash (talk) 02:11, 20 September 2016 (UTC)