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March 19

enoch powell rivers of blood speech 20th april 1968

I have read the long item on the above and think it is important to mention that the speech was given on Adolf Hitler's birth date 20th April,David Edger's play DESTINY must be mentioned as it is relevant.Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 51.7.231.138 (talk) 01:52, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

Hello, IP user. If you can find a reliable published source that specifically makes that point, then you can add the information to the article, citing the source. If not, then this is original research which is not allowed in Wikipedia articles. --ColinFine (talk) 11:26, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

Watchlist

Just a simple question, is there any way to exclude one's own edits from their watchlist? I find that my watchlist has become just more and more redundant to my contributions page if anything, since its basically 90% my own edits and 10% others' edits. I mostly have to laser-focus myself onto the watchlist just to see other people's edits to the pages I watch. – PhilipTerryGraham (talk · contribs · count) 04:33, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

Hello, you should find what you want on Help:watchlist. Irma2403 (talk) 06:42, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

Hi, @PhilipTerryGraham: This is already available feature in User Preferences. Just navigate to Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-watchlist and under "Advanced options" you'll see Hide my edits from the watchlist option; just tick the box next to it and you can explore more options there.–Ammarpad (talk) 06:51, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

@Ammarpad: I've tested tis out, but this doesn't seem to work. I checked "Hide my edits from the watchlist" and saved my settings, though my edits are still popping up on my watchlist... Is there a delay of a few hours to update it or something like that? :/ – PhilipTerryGraham (talk · contribs · count) 17:03, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

@Ammarpad: I may have figured out why the settings aren't working. I'm currently using the "New filters for edit review" beta feature. Though, it's been ages since I started using it that I forgot that it was a beta feature. Forgive me for forgetting to mention that! Haha! I'm still annoyed that there doesn't seem to be a filter to exclude my own edits, though, unless there is, and I simply missed it upon searching for it? – PhilipTerryGraham (talk · contribs · count) 17:11, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

@Ammarpad: Here's the third and final of the watchlist fairy tale. I found through the discussion forums for the beta feature that there is indeed a filter for it, but it was a weird non-traditional way where it was a switch filter between "Changes by you" and "Changes by others", and it wasn't immediately clear that it was such a switch filter. Anyways, my problems have been solved now! Thanks for your input, nonetheless! :) – PhilipTerryGraham (talk · contribs · count) 17:16, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

Auto WikiProject Tool?

Hello, occasionally I help sort articles to respective WikiProjects and categories. I am wondering is there a tool that helps add articles to WikiProjects quickly? Currently, I try to think of all relevant Wikiprojects and add them manually. It would be great if there was something to speed to process along. If you have any suggestions, tips, or answers please ping me. Best and thanks, Classicwiki (talk) If you reply here, please ping me. 05:04, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

@Classicwiki: I find Rater very helpful. Not sure if this is what you are after though. Triptothecottage (talk) 02:41, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

Triptothecottage, does that help assess articles or does it help ease the process of adding articles (their talk pages) to WikiProjects? I'm looking for the latter. For example if Einstein, wasn't part of any WikiProjects on the talk page I would add it to WikiProject Physics and let someone from the project assess the quality of the article. Sorry, not very good at following code. If it does accomplish the latter is there an instruction guide on how to use it? Thanks for answering, Classicwiki (talk) If you reply here, please ping me. 02:50, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

@Classicwiki: Try these instructions to install the script: Rater (source) The gadget enables you to add Wikiprojects, taskforces, sort keys etc, without necessarily completing the assessment (although that is available as well.

References

Wow, thanks for taking the time for explaining it to me. Love it already. Thanks! Classicwiki (talk) If you reply here, please ping me. 14:32, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

@Classicwiki: Evad37's rater contains an automatic assessment of quality but lacks some features at this point. Kephir's version, found here, is no longer actively developed but offers easier access to more specific parameters of those banners (like taskforces etc.). Personally, I am currently using both at the same time until Evad37's version offers the same features as Kephir's does. Regards SoWhy 15:24, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

SoWhy, thanks! I will give that one a try too. Do you put them on their own custom subpages or are they both located on your common.js page? Best, Classicwiki (talk) If you reply here, please ping me. 15:29, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

@Classicwiki: You can put them in common.js if you want to use them with all skins. If you only use a certain skin, you can also put them in <skinname>.js (e.g. monobook.js, vector.js etc.). No need to copy the code though, just use the importScript-code as directed. Regards SoWhy 15:35, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

Logo / Icon Change

Hi,

I am trying to change the icon/logo on the Newcastle Diamonds page however it will not allow me, please can you help? Attached is the new image. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Craigbrockuk (talk • contribs) 10:06, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

Hello, Craigbrockuk. As long as the new version of the logo meets all the criteria in NFCC, you can upload it by going to File:Newcastlediamonds.png and picking "Upload a new version of this file". --ColinFine (talk) 11:31, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

@Craigbrockuk: Your account has to make one more edit anywhere to get the option "Upload a new version of this file". The option can only be used if it's a png file. Is it http://www.newcastlediamonds.co/images/clubs/Newcastle_Diamonds.png? PrimeHunter (talk) 11:55, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

Hello ColinFine no it is not that version. I have made around 10 edits since joining but still do not see that option — Preceding unsigned comment added by Craigbrockuk (talk • contribs) 12:09, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

That message was your 10th edit, so you wouldn't have seen the option before that (and please remember to sign). --David Biddulph (talk) 12:12, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

Removing self and child from wikipedia

I would like to know how I may have my infant daughter and myself removed from a Wikipedia page pending publishing. I did not consent to having either of our information posted, and am requesting removal. Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:204:C001:2B2:3C97:3EC5:753B:FC22 (talk) 11:53, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

Please direct us to the page or image and we will see to it.--Aspro (talk) 12:04, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

It is hard to say anything certain with so little info, but WP:BLPSELF may be of help to you. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 12:28, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

If the unpublished article contains libellous statements, or if it has inappropriate information about your daughter and she is not WP:Notable, then don't post a link here, but e-mail info-en-q@wikimedia.org for oversight. In general, you do not have control over what goes into an article about yourself if it is referenced to WP:Reliable sources, so don't ask for oversight unless you have a strong case. It might be simpler just to contact the editor of the article and ask for the information to be removed. Dbfirs 21:57, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

Resolve multiple issues

I wrote an article titled "Cam Ne Incident." It has multiple issues. I want to resolve them, The banner says these issues can be discussed on the talk page. But I don't know how to do that -- discuss the issues on a talk page. The first issue listed is an unclear citation style. I'd be glad to clear that up if I knew the problem. Whinnen (talk) 12:37, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

You have flip-flopped between templated style ({{cite web}}, etc) and untemplated style. Pick one and stick to it.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 12:48, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

If you are reading the article Cam Ne Incident, the tap at the top of the page saying "Talk" will take you to Talk:Cam Ne Incident, and on that page the tab "New section" will let you start a new section. --David Biddulph (talk) 14:13, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

@Whinnen and David Biddulph: The 'News section' link may also be displayed as a single '+' sign. --CiaPan (talk) 16:00, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

revised draft "Hanns Fischer - Physicist and Professors.

Please let me know what happened to my revision of "Hanns Fischer - Physicist and Professor" for which I have received (and mentioned in the references) all copyrights needed to the sections reproduced from published articles. Tony Kaiser (talk) 13:40, 19 March 2018 (UTC)Thank you and regards, Tony Kaiser

Do you mean this Draft:Hanns Fischer It was moved to this location, sandboxes are not safe places to keep stuff. - X201 (talk) 14:21, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

create a page

How do I create a page for a leading business executive? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gwalsh1025 (talk • contribs) 13:56, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

You need to read the advice at WP:Notability (people) and WP:Your first article. --David Biddulph (talk) 14:09, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

And WP:PAID and WP:COI if you're connected in any manner to the executive.​Lourdes 04:12, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

User talk page warnings

If a user received their 4 warnings, then got blocked for a certain amount of time, and vandalized a page AFTER the block, would the block reset the warning level or would you go straight to the highest level?--SkyGazer 512 ^{talk / contributions / subpages} 15:01, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

Hey SkyGazer 512. Assuming it's obvious vandalism, and it's a registered account, you can probably just report them to WP:AIV with something to the effect of "resumption of vandalism following the expiration of previous block", and that should do just fine. If it is an IP address, then often each "editing session" has to be treated as if it were a unique human behind the keyboard, because IP addresses can be shared or dynamic, meaning this human in particular may actually be getting warned for the first time. GMG^talk 15:06, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

Hi GreenMeansGo, thanks for replying. It was an IP address that I was warning. Are you saying that if it is an IP address I should start over with level 1?--SkyGazer 512 ^{talk / contributions / subpages} 15:17, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

Hey SkyGazer 512. Overall, yes... well, mostly. Unless you have a behavioral reason to justify saying that the IP address belongs to the same person as before. So, for example, if the IP vandalized a couple of particularly obscure article, and after a 24 hour block, returned to vandalize the same articles in the same way. You could then fairly well assume that it's the same person as before, who has already been warned and blocked, and returned to vandalize anyway.

Other than something like that, you would warn them as normal. That doesn't always mean starting with level one and going 1, 2, 3, 4. If the vandalism is pretty bad, and not just your run of the mill bored teenager, then it's perfectly acceptable to start right off with a level 2-4 warning rather than a level one. So, for example, if you had user inserting violent racial epithets into articles, or gratuitous sexual content/imagery, you would generally not start out with a level one warning, and may not need to warn at all, depending on the severity. This is especially true with regard to adding highly contentious material about living persons. GMG^talk 15:33, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

You can use the "Geolocate" link at the foot of the IP's contribution page to get an indication as to whether it is a static or dynamic IP, and you can look at the contribution record to see whether the same or similar pages are being edited to get a clue as to whether it is likely to be the same person. --David Biddulph (talk) 15:34, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

So if the IP was making the same disruptive edits on the same article after getting blocked, what would the best warning level be?--SkyGazer 512 ^{talk / contributions / subpages} 15:35, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

Straight to WP:AIV. --David Biddulph (talk) 15:52, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

I agree, no need to do any warnings, they are well aware of the consequences of vandalism. ~ GB fan 16:04, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

Edit summary legend

Can somebody please explain to me the exact difference between WP:Edit summary legend#Copy edit and (right below) WP:Edit summary legend#Correction? Thanks a lot in advance for any support! Best wishes--Converto (talk) 17:11, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

@Converto: Edit summaries is not an exact science. "cr" is rarely used and may not be understood by others. I write "correct". cr/correct is only meant for correction of errors while ce/copyedit can be all types of copy editing, e.g. better formulations or adherence to guidelines. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:20, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

Thank you very much!--Converto (talk) 20:22, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

Help:Cite errors/Cite error ref no input. Mary Edwards Walker. Please Correct my citing error! Thank you. Slade Watson

You added <ref> ..... </ref> tags with nothing in between. See WP:Referencing for beginners for the method. If you use Visual Editor then Help:Introduction to referencing with VisualEditor/2 provides guidance. The empty ref tags have been removed by AnomieBOT,but you should now format the references appropriately. Dbfirs 21:42, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

I am trying to add a famous person or person of notoriety

I'm new to Wikipeda and I am trying to find out how to add a famous person or person of Notoriety to Wikipedia that is not listed on the site and I do not know how to do this do you have any suggestions? Thanks, Josh Paul — Preceding unsigned comment added by TeenieTim (talk • contribs) 22:35, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

Hello, TeenieTim. Writing a new article is among the harder tasks in Wikipedia, and I also advise people to spend a few months improving existing articles before they try. When you want to progress to creation, I suggest you read your first article. By the way, I suspect you mean "notability" (which has a very particular meaning in Wikipedia) rather than "notoriety". --ColinFine (talk) 22:55, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

Update logo for International Campaign for Tibet

Hello,

I would like to request a change to the logo for the International Campaign for Tibet: [[1]]

The logo has recently been updated as seen on their website: https://www.savetibet.org

A file for the new logo can be found here: http://www.savetibet.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/ICT_logo_primary-wiki.jpg

Thank you, SaveTibetOrgICT SaveTibetOrgICT (talk) 22:59, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

A more pressing issue is that the article lacks independent sources, much less in-depth coverage (which it needs to continue to exist). I looked on Google News and only found passing mentions in articles that were about some other topic. Ian.thomson (talk) 23:09, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

Error in tagline of article

For the page on Duff Goldman, who is a pastry chef, appears a subtitle of "American musician." See [2] This screenshot was taken on the Android app version of Wikipedia. Oddly, I don't know where this "American musician" text appears in the article, and I would like to change it because it is not true. Any ideas? Thanks Piguy101 (talk) 23:19, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

It's from Wikidata. See Wikipedia:FAQ/Editing#How do I edit mobile subtitles? PrimeHunter (talk) 23:28, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter: Excellent, thank you so much! That did the trick and I fixed the article. Piguy101 (talk) 23:39, 19 March 2018 (UTC)