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September 18

Re: Tom Crean (Explorer) article page

Hi, I've long been aware of incorrect information on the Wikipedia entry for Tom Crean after researching and writing a book about him. I have a longstanding association with Crean as I have operated a campaign to have him officially honoured by his country since 2010. I do now consider that my book Crean - The Extraordinary Life of an Irish Hero is the definitive biography on Crean but altering the information and references in the article could be considered a Conflict of Interests if I were to edit the content given that my book would require listing as a source. I have aired these views in the talk section of the article and I'm happy to share my book and its sources in order to justify the changes and provide evidence of the facts but still, a number of incorrect facts remain. It's a dilemma for me but it's frustrating to read falsehoods that I feel powerless to change given the possible accusation of COI. There are also a number of irrelevant external links some of which are dead and the inclusion of a longstanding campaign to honour Crean deserves mention given that a petition of over 10,200 signatures was handed in to the Irish government in February 2018 and that over 27,000 fans worldwide support the aim on a Facebook page.

I'd be grateful for any advice you can provide and I'm happy to provide a valued editor the details and evidence required to alter the article to reflect a truer description of Crean.

Look forward to hearting back from you

Regards

Tim Foley Timfoley50 (talk) 00:29, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

@Timfoley50: I responded on the talk page of Tom Crean (explorer). -Arch dude (talk) 00:50, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

Wrong photo of Rohan Kanhai

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rohan_Kanhai

This is not Rohan Kanhai. Please replace it.

Monty — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:E000:141F:4470:0:2778:49D4:8413 (talk) 04:40, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

What is the basis for your belief that this is not Rohan Kanhai? Can you show why the Australian Government's War Memorial Archives (from which the picture and its description has been obtained) are in error? (Note that I'm not saying you're wrong, but we need some evidence beyond an anonymous assertion from Someone on the Internet.) {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} Maproom (talk) 07:04, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

The title of "Esquire".

How can you write such nonsense about the title of "Esquire"?

My husband was given the title of "Esquire" in 1993 from the Royal College of Arms in London acting on behalf of Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II, as they stated on the relevant documents. This was followed by a celebration at Parliament House in Sydney. He was also given a beautifully worked Coat of Arms on vellum. We hold the 1993 official documents as well as letters from Sir Conrad Swan the Garter Principal King of Arms of the Royal College of Arms congratulating my husband. Sunsequently we met Sir Conrad Swan when he visited Australia.

What you wrote may be true of America. In England although it is officially the lowest form of nobilty it is still a hereditary title, below that of a "knight", but above that of a "gentleman".

You can always check the veracity of this with the Royal College of Arms in London, not only about the title, "Esquire", but also whether Kenneth Nicholas Francis Weekes, Esquire, of Sydney, holds that title of nobilty.

Valerie Weekes.

The article Esquire seems to me to confirm your claim whilst also describing general usage. Dbfirs 07:12, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

Royal 07:04, 18 September 2018 (UTC)Maproom (talk)

I did not intend to add my signature above. I did delete a large number of ref tags, whose presence was causing the entire page to fail to render correctly. Maproom (talk) 07:18, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

We were both trying to tidy up the look of the page. I left your signature because I wondered if some content had been accidentally deleted, but I later saw what you had tidied up. Dbfirs 07:26, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

To Valerie Weekes: if you believe that there are errors in the Esquire article, you should discuss them on that article's Talk page, making clear which statements you believe are wrong, and preferably supporting your views with a reference to a reliable published source that can be verified by anyone with access to a good library and the internet. Note these sentences from the article: "There is some confusion over the fact that the Lord Lyon King of Arms addresses correspondents by their name followed by "Esq." in correspondence, namely on letters. Some people erroneously believe that this makes them an Esquire". Maproom (talk) 07:24, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

Addressing business and similarly non-social correspondance to "Firstname Lastname, Esq." rather than "Mr Firstname Lastname" was a common though declining UK custom up to at least the 1970s. In my 20s (i.e. in the 1970's) I received many letters, bills etc. so addressed on the envelope.

Incidentally, any person 'of good repute' who is a citizen of England, Wales or Northern Ireland*, and in many circumstances of another country if they have an ancestral connection, is entitled to apply to the College of Arms for, and be granted, an heraldic achievement (aka "coat of arms") on payment of the prevailing fees (most of which go to pay for the documentary research and artwork involved). The granting of arms implies a formal recognition that they are at minimum a "gentleman" (or "lady") – that is to say, their good repute is acknowledged. (* Scotland and The republic of Ireland have their own heraldic authorities.) {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.200.142.24 (talk) 21:43, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

FK Vardar

Hi,

I'm Goran Serafimov from Macedonia. I want to contribute about statistics for FK Vardar players and i faced with some problems with Wikipedia admins when I'm editing the articles. Can you please help me because I have reliable information for FK Vardar and I think that I can contribute to Wikipedia.

With best regards,

Goran — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gokso (talk • contribs) 07:14, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

Hi - thanks for your contributions. Please be careful not to include original research, per WP:OR, and always include reliable sourcing when possible, per WP:RS. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 15:48, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

Merging a category

Hi there. I'm not quite sure how to merge a category and don't want to mess it up. I noticed that w:Category:Historic Hotels of America was created today. However, there is already a w:Category:Historic hotels in the United States. If someone could help me with this (or do the fix for me!) I'd really appreciate it. Thanks! Magnolia677 (talk) 11:16, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

I think you'd want WP:CFD? DonIago (talk) 14:00, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

@Doniago: Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 22:47, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

No activity at WP:AfC

This has been going on for a couple of weeks now but there doesn't seem to be any reviewers working on pending submissions at WP:AfC. The backlog has now piled up to over 4,000 (including over 500 very old submissions) and there's no sign of any effort to actively eliminate it. Davykamanzi → talk • contribs • alter ego 14:03, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

There's. Everyday articles are accepted and many, many more are declined. You can just say there's maybe a slow activity or need for more reviewers and that discussion actually belongs to WT:AFCR not here. –Ammarpad (talk) 14:49, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

04:18, 26 June 2018 Anthony Appleyard (talk | contribs) deleted page Draft:Design and Simulation of a Parallel Hybrid Automotive Propulsion System (G12: Unambiguous copyright infringement) (thank)

The topic listed above in the Subject/headline is my original work, a doctoral dissertation at the University of California Santa Barbara for which I received a Ph.D. in Electrical Engineering in July 1970. The dissertation was registered (copyrighted) with the Library of Congress in 1970.

The full copy of the Dissertation is available for anyone to read at https://www.researchgate.net/publication/33911999_Design_and_simulation_of_a_parallet_hybrid_vehicle_propulsion_system

but it will be more appropriate if it appears as part of an article about Isaac Barpal. Here is a short BIO of Dr. Barpal:

  Isaac R. Barpal

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Dr. Isaac R. Barpal retired as Senior Vice President and Chief Technology Officer of AlliedSignal (now Honeywell) in July 1998. He joined the corporation in July 1993 and had oversight for the corporation’s engineering and technology efforts with a budget of over $1.1 billion and a technical staff of over 11,000 people. He also chaired the Technology Board, which included the sector technology officers and other key members and whose role was to administer the virtual Technology Centers and to foster cross-sector technology initiatives. At the sectors, the technology efforts were both tactical, in support of ongoing operations, and strategic, to develop emerging technologies to better serve future market opportunities. These activities were conducted at dedicated local facilities worldwide, at specialized Technology Centers, which served cross-sector needs, and at “virtual centers,” such as universities, research laboratories, and other entities, both in the U.S. and abroad (e.g. Russia, China and India), from which the corporation obtained the best available technology. The various Technology Centers’ staff of scientists and engineers conducted business-driven technology projects designed to add value to the products and services supplied by AlliedSignal’s three business sectors, to develop new technology, and to commercialize the technology into new products serving customer needs. Dr. Barpal earned his B.S. degree in electrical engineering and applied mathematics from the California State Polytechnic University and his M.S. and Ph.D. degrees in electrical engineering from the University of California at Santa Barbara. He also attended the Advanced Management Program at Harvard Business School. Before joining AlliedSignal, Dr. Barpal had a distinguished 22-year career at the Westinghouse Electric Corporation, which included engineering projects, operations, and general management assignments. His last assignment was as the Corporate Vice President of Science and Technology. Since 2000, Dr Barpal has been a senior proposal reviewer (pro-bono) for the National Science Foundation (NSF) SBIR/STTR programs. The Small Business Innovation Research and the Small Business Technology Transfer organizations, provide seed funding (Phase I) and continuing development, prototyping and commercialization (Phase II) to anyone in the USA who applies and qualifies to a very strict set of rules. Dr Barpal’s expertise in R&D, technology transfer, and commercialization is invaluable in reviewing a large number of submittals to the NSF and in identifying candidates for funding. In addition, he has participated in a number of private technology/business reviews on behalf of potential investors to advice them on the viability of new technologies. Dr. Barpal has written numerous technical articles and holds several patents. Active in a number of engineering and professional societies, he is a registered engineer in California, Florida, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, and Brazil. Born in Argentina, he has lived in seven countries and speaks six languages. He is married and resides in Sarasota, Florida.

Please let me know how I can proceed restoring the link to the Dissertation or the full copy as well as starting a full page about Isaac Barpal. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Itzikrb (talk • contribs) 15:04, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

@Itzikrb: We have multiple issues here. Wikipedia is not the place to publish original research, so the paper itself does not belong here. See WP:OR. For the professor, such an article is acceptable only if Dr. Barpal is notable by our definition, not yours. Really. We mean it. Failure to demonstrate notability will result in the articles deletion, so don't try to force it. See WP:NOTABLE, and more specifically, WP:NACADEMIC. Make sure that your assertion of notability explicitly matches any one of the nine criteria, and if it's not obvious, specifically assert this on the talk page of your draft article. when you create it. If you can support a claim of notability, then proceed as described at WP:YFA. -Arch dude (talk) 16:46, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

Simple graphics

Who do we have who can do some simple diagrams for The Ocean Cleanup? I knew but now forget. If you know of anyone, please send them here. Many thanks. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 18:39, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

Ah, never mind. A kind editor found the right place for me: Wikipedia:Graphics Lab/Illustration workshop.

Anna Frodesiak (talk) 18:48, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

Articles

How do i create an article — Preceding unsigned comment added by My name is oof (talk • contribs) 21:29, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

A Wizard is available to walk you through these steps. See the Article Wizard.

Thank you.

Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines with which all articles should comply. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.

Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.

If you still think an article is appropriate, see Wikipedia:Your first article. You might also look at Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. An Article Wizard is also available to walk you through creating an article. Sakura Cartelet^Talk 21:46, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

Inappropriate edit

To whom it may concern,

My brother borrowed my phone to edit ‘September 19’, notable events and our his birthday. This was intended as a joke but not appropriate for the page. If it can be removed that would be ideal and I apologise for the inconvenience.

Kind regards,

David — Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.241.4.139 (talk) 22:14, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

It's been already removed from the page by Jackfork so there's nothing you need to worry about. Sakura Cartelet^Talk 22:23, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

Watch list modifications

My watch list preferences specify max. 3 days and 250 entries for the "Modified" list. However, all the tabs show me only about 50 entries, with the more restrictive tabs going back several days (>3) if necessary to reach the 50 limit. Can you explain this behavior? I am using the mobile version. Thanks. Jmar67 (talk) 22:30, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

That's part of many problems with watchlist on mobile. More of them are tracked here: T58817. You can however, switch to desktop site from your mobile and use it same as on desktop, though this depends on your screen size in seeing its benefit. –Ammarpad (talk) 06:37, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

can i edit spelling if i think it wrong

so I was in Plymouth colony and I saw some one spelled New Plymouth wrong the Y was a I so I changed it and they got mad at me and I looked at a picture to the side that was about it and it said new Plymouth with no I instead of the Y — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.90.171.78 (talk) 23:15, September 18, 2018‎

IP your edits like this and this took correct information and made it incorrect. They are considered vandalism. The edit where you changed the Y to an I may have looked right but it is changing a cited item. Plymouth was also spelled Plimouth at that time. Please be careful in your future editing. MarnetteD|Talk 23:25, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

Can't get to talk page on the 'Grace O'Malley' page

Hi, I'm trying to make a comment on the 'Grace O'Malley' page, but the talk button seems to be redirecting me to something unrelated - discussion about a user's IP - not mine. Can you help?

Thanks 58.172.72.55 (talk) 23:46, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

Strange. I just checked the talk page myself and it's displaying properly. Maybe it's something wrong with your browser? Sakura Cartelet^Talk 00:52, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

Perhaps you hit the wrong "talk" button. Each signed edit comment has a "talk" link that goes to the user talk page. An article has a "talk" button at the top on a tab. If you hit the "talk" tab at the top of Grace O'Malley, you will reach Talk:Grace O'Malley. -Arch dude (talk) 02:21, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

Are you sure it isn't your own IP talk page? The top line of pages have a "Talk" link leading there. It was User talk:58.172.72.55 at the time of your post. Many users have IP addresses which often change and have belonged to others before so the page may be discussing edits by others. The second line of article pages have a "Talk" tab to the article talk page. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:00, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

If you are trying to start a new discussion on the said page, you could use this link. Lourdes 09:58, 19 September 2018 (UTC)