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Western Heights College

I have added a second web site in the information box on this page - but it is all wrong. Please fix if you can Thanks 175.33.248.139 (talk) 01:15, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

The website field in the infobox is for the primary website of the institution only, so I have removed the second one you tried to add. MB 02:26, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

I can not edit properly on this device. please note that the word "severed" in the Community section of this page should read "severe". Thanks for correcting this error. 175.33.248.139 (talk) 06:29, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

 Done typo fix. Willbb234^Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 06:40, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

Commons Crop

Hi
Does anyone know the steps I would take to uploading a crop of an original work belonging to another user (previously uploaded on the Commons) to a different destination?
To give context, there is an image of two musicians titled by only one of them. I'm only trying to have a crop of the one for a BLP I'm working on. HeyitsBen^(talk) 07:11, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

@HeyitsBen: The image in question is released under a license that allows derivative works, as long as they are released under the same license. You might want to ask at the commons help desk, where users will be more equipped to assist you with the practicalities of actually doing it though ~~ OxonAlex - talk 07:48, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

​The Commons:CropTool makes this task easy. – Thjarkur (talk) 14:54, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

Help:Pictures#Vertical alignment

The above section states: "When a plain picture appears in text, it is aligned so that its vertical middle is roughly where the center of a lower-case "x" would be; if the image is larger than the line is tall, it sticks out both above and below." — However, the example given there uses upper-case Xs at the beginning and the end: X[[File:Flag of Hungary vertical.svg|baseline|8px|Vertical version of horizontal tricolor flag (red, white, green)]]X — How come?--Hildeoc (talk) 14:42, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

​The default position is center of a lower-case x, the example given shows how to change that by using the baseline option. Maybe adding a line break in that documentation would make it more clear. – Thjarkur (talk) 14:48, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

I've changed the upper case X to lower case. --David Biddulph (talk) 14:50, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

Thank you both very much indeed! Best wishes--Hildeoc (talk) 14:53, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

Article submission Joseph Harriss

My submission of an article entitled "Joseph Harriss" has been bogged down for months because a certain Lopifalko says it does not cite reliable, independent sources for comments on my four published books. On the contrary, I cite comments from the likes of The New York Times, Scientific American, Los Angeles Times, etc. I seem to sense that Lopifalko is hostile to this article, for reasons unknown. Can anyone resolve this, please? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wordcobbler (talk • contribs) 15:55, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

​Seems to me that Lopifalko has been very helpful and has been guiding you in how to improve the article. Most of the cited sources don't seem to be about Harriss and there are multiple unsourced statements. We strongly encourage you not to write an autobiography, most people find it too difficult to remain neutral about things they're close to. – Thjarkur (talk) 16:05, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

@Wordcobbler: It looks to me like Lopifalko is genuinely trying to help you. If you somehow pushed your draft into Wikipedia in its present state, it would be deleted, because there are appear to be no references that support a claim of notability. You need more than one reference, each of which meet all of the following criteria: 1) a reliable source, 2) the article is substantially about Hariss (not a passing mention in an article about something else, not a piece on another subject written by Hariss) 2) independent of the subject (is not written by Hariss or or someone connected to Hariss). You are free to use additional reliable sources for other information in the article, but those do not count toward notability. The notability criteria for an author are slightly more nuanced: see WP:NAUTHOR. If you feel that you may meet those criteria, please discuss why you think so. The talk page of your draft is probably a good place for such a discussion. -Arch dude (talk) 21:05, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

Edit got stuck, but seems to have saved, is that normal?

I was trying to edit the Labrador Retriever article, and took a long time to edit it, in part because I looked checked some references looking for a particular statement. In part because I briefly walked away from the computer, but stayed in the same room. While editing the article, I used the preview and view changes buttons several times. Finally, I clicked publish changes... and nothing happened. I tried again. Nothing. I tried again. A few seconds of waiting. Then nothing. Then I tried to preview, that worked. Tried to save, didn't work. Then I tried to view the changes, and it said there were none. Then I opened the article's history page in another tab. And found the edit I'd just made. this edit. Is this normal? It hasn't happened to me before. Also, am I asking in the right place? – Pretended leer {talk} 19:58, 18 August 2019 (UTC) By the way, it also happened while saving the question. But then I didn't click save more than once, because I realized maybe it had been saved, and then I checked. – Pretended leer {talk} 20:10, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

Your request reached the server and was saved, but the server's response got stuck somewhere on the way back. It happens occasionally to me as well. – Thjarkur (talk) 20:18, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply! I guess I'll just ignore it. – Pretended leer {talk} 20:24, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

Suggestions: Edit sections rather than the whole article. Break your long edits into series of small edits. Editing small has many advantages for the editor and for others who edit the article.—Finell 22:52, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

To place very important information

To: Wikipedia August 18, 2019 Please, provide information about rules and detail description about submission of very important information for people on your website Wikipedia and person who is responsible to make a decision and who can answer question. Thank you very much in advance. Neweralife (talk) 20:17, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

Hello Neweralife, see for example What is Wikipedia. All of us (including you) work together trying to make sure our information is factual. If you have any general questions you can post them here, if you have comments about the content of an article you can post them on the article's talk page. – Thjarkur (talk) 20:22, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

Why my information about techno has not been accepted

I have gathered information about a reputed college in Lucknow, which I have found relevant to provide information across our nation to know about but i can see that my published information has been rejected and I dont have any clue why this information has not been accepted. I have been trying to provide more information about the different educational institutions in India. However, i would request you please guide me stepwise so that i can provide useful information to Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iamanauthor19 (talk • contribs) 20:25, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

Iamanauthor19, the comment at the top of your draft explains what needs to be done. You need to show that the subject has gotten significant coverage (not just passing mentions) in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject. After you have added these citations in, you can click the blue button "Resubmit". – Thjarkur (talk) 20:30, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

"not constructive" contributions

Hi, just received message from CLCStudent, that my contributions to BLP https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milan_Jovanovi%C4%87_(strongman).

CLCSstudent deleted all of mine contributions, stated they are "not constructive" and instructed me to ask you for additional questions.

Can you, please, explain me what was the problem with my contributions? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pblagojevic (talk • contribs) 22:48, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

@Pblagojevic: Edit warring is never the right course. Be careful. - FlightTime (open channel) 23:12, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

@Pblagojevic: Please read WP:BLP. We are supposed to use references for pretty much everything on Wikipedia, but we are required to be especially rigorous about this for statements about living persons. -Arch dude (talk) 23:59, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

The content added to Milan Jovanović (strongman) was referenced – though it was referenced by direct external links rather then by correctly formatted references. Pblagojevic, please read Help:Referencing_for_beginners. Maproom (talk) 06:43, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

By amazing coincidence, everything added to Milan Jovanović (strongman) had the effect of attacking the person by associating them with various negative activities. Not everything published is suitable for inclusion in a WP:BLP article and text might be WP:UNDUE. At any rate, a new editor who starts contributing by adding negativity to an article about a living person will find their edits reverted. Johnuniq (talk) 07:04, 19 August 2019 (UTC)