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March 6

Recreating a deleted page for disambiguation

I'd like to create a disambiguation page from Shriving (and Shrove) to link to Shrovetide, Shrove Monday, and Shrove Tuesday. However, I'm doubtful about doing so because a similar page already existed and was deleted in 2018. I don't have a plan to overcome its shortcomings because I don't think the old version had any shortcomings except for lacking the {{disambiguation}} template. For some reason the deletion discussion didn't consider its usefulness as a disambiguation page and discussed only its lack of promise as an article. Should I just be bold and recreate it? Krubo (talk) 00:18, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

A disambiguation page is meant to list articles that use the exact term but in different contexts/meanings (i.e., "may refer to..."). Would you say that "Shrove" can be construed as "referring to" Shrove Monday/Tuesday/Sunday /Shrovetide (on all of which we've got articles) - or is just contextually related? In the latter case, I don't think a disambiguation page is indicated. The lede of Shrovetide already does seem to do the job of linking all of these up. - By my assessment, a redirect from both Shrove and Shriving to Shrovetide would be handy though. --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 02:58, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

That makes sense to see Shrovetide as the article that can tie all the terms together. I'll go ahead and redirect Shrove to Shrovetide. I won't touch Shriving for now since its relationship to the other terms is less obvious. Krubo (talk) 07:44, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

Agree, "shriving" (going to confession, receiving absolution) doesn't relate only to a particular time of year and calls for a separate article. The deletion discussion linked above gives some pointers: Bhunacat10 (talk), 10:15, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

Uploading a picture

Hi there, I find this all very confusing. How do I prove when I upload a picture that I have taken myself please?Missmadameclaude (talk) 03:15, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

Missmadameclaude for photos you took yourself you can use commons uploader; it will ask you if it's your own photo. You'll have to register, but it's easy, fast, and free. valereee (talk) 11:06, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

Katherine Dettwyler - notability

Someone has recently added a tag disputing the notability of Katherine Ann Dettwyler. The Talk page says that a proposal to delete was in fact rejected back in 2007 with a consensus to Keep – but there is no link to the archived deletion discussion, which I had to search out manually. How do I wikify the template on the Talk page so that the sentence "The result of the discussion was Keep" is linked to the pertinent deletion discussion? Muzilon (talk) 08:18, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

@Muzilon: The box is generated by {{Old AfD multi}} and needs to be amended by the page= parameter. I fixed it. Regards SoWhy 08:36, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

Is there a reason why my quoting the source the website: aalt.law.uh.edu is unacceptable?

Is there a reason why my quoting the source the website: aalt.law.uh.edu is unacceptable? — Preceding unsigned comment added by RosemaryHSimons (talk • contribs) 10:34, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

No idea, RosemaryHSimons. But it would help if you would indicate what you are trying to do, and what happened to make you ask if it is unacceptable. --ColinFine (talk) 10:43, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

What policies wiki-en has about politicians in the US?

Hi! I just read some news about Margareth Shepard. Apparently she is the first Brazilian to be elected to a political office in the United States, in the city council of Framingham. I'm not sure how relevant this is for wiki-en. I would try to find relevant information about her like any other politician. User:Tetizeraz. Send me a ✉️ ! 12:07, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

The English Wikipedia covers anything and everything that reliable sources have discussed in enough depth. There is a special guideline for politicians, with a specific allowance for local politicians with a lot of media coverage. If you can find enough reliable sources (that don't treat the subject in a WP:Routine manner) for an article, be bold and create it! The first Brazilian elected to public office in the US sounds like a very interesting article topic. – Teratix ₵ 12:22, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

Family Picture deleted

Can I ask why? I uploaded a picture of my great grandfather, a family pic I own and it was removed.  :( — Preceding unsigned comment added by KimMouse (talk • contribs) 14:10, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

@KimMouse: You uploaded it at commons:File:PhilipKeeper.jpg and it was deleted at commons:Commons:Deletion requests/File:PhilipKeeper.jpg. I cannot see deleted Commons files or which information was given about them. This is an issue for Commons and not the English Wikipedia. You didn't answer when the photo was created. This is important for the copyright status. Make an estimate if you are uncertain. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:25, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

Mainly, we need to know who made the photo. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 15:11, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

Commons have a template for inherited images commons:Template:PD-heirs, you will still need to provide as much info on where the picture came from. MilborneOne (talk) 19:37, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

Updating My Company Logo

Hi there, 1 need to update a logo on our wikipedia page. How do I do this?

Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CreativeRaleys (talk • contribs) 17:22, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

CreativeRaleys, it would help if you were to point out which article you're referring to. †dismas†|^(talk) 17:36, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

• @CreativeRaleys: First of all, if you are doing that as part of your job duties, see that link and make the appropriate disclosure.

Have a look at our guideline about logos (short version: except if the logo is simple enough not to be eligible to copyright, it must be uploaded only as a low-resolution raster image) and come back if you have any questions. Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 17:40, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

I'm assuming that you are attempting to work on Raley's Supermarkets along with Kbuffalino. There are a lot of problems here which you must address before editing further. First, the username "CreativeRaleys" suggests that it is not a personal username but a corporate one. All usernames must be personal and used by one person only, see our policy on usernames. Next, both "CreativeRaleys" and "Kbuffalino" look like employee accounts. If so you must comply with our conflict of interest policy and our paid-contribution disclosure. Once that is sorted out you should generally request another editor to make the change by explaining what is needed on the talk page. Finally, you do not have "our wikipedia page". If the page belongs to anyone it is the community and the Wikimedia Foundation. Wikipedia has a page describing you. Martin of Sheffield (talk) 17:52, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

Recent discussion about getting rid of the Wikipedia Reference Desks

There was a (relatively) recent discussion about getting rid of the Wikipedia Reference Desks. It started around Christmas time, and it dragged on for a good month or two. I assume it has been closed by now. Where can I find that link? Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 18:35, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

@Joseph A. Spadaro: There have been a few. This is a recent one: Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)/Indefinitely_semiprotecting_the_refdesk. The one before that is Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)/RfC:_Should_the_Reference_Desks_be_closed. You can search the archives at WP:VP for others. RudolfRed (talk) 18:42, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

@RudolfRed: Thanks. That is what I was looking for. Thank you. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 15:21, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

Moving files

Hi there. I uploaded a movie poster with the name, Dishdogz (2006) Film poster.jpg. However, I just now found out that the film was, actually, released in 2005 and the file should be named File:Dishdogz (2005) Film poster.jpg. I tried to move it to fix my own mistake, but I don't have the right to do so. I don't know where or how to request its move, either. If someone could help me I would appreciate it.--SirEdimon (talk) 19:58, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

Look at WP:FFR. There is a tag you can add to the file and a user with permissions will move it. RudolfRed (talk) 20:09, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

@SirEdimon: fixing bad ping. RudolfRed (talk) 20:10, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

@RudolfRed: I get it. Thank you for your help.--SirEdimon (talk) 20:27, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

SirEdimon, I've moved the page without a redirect Jimfbleak - talk to me? 11:58, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

Jimfbleak Thank you.--SirEdimon (talk) 18:39, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

2019 NCAA Division I FBS football season

There are 3 Categories that have been still red and they need to turn to blue now The 2019 C-USA football season article. The 2019 Mountain West Conference Football Schedule. and The 2019 Sun Belt Conference football schedule for the past month it has been doing nothing. 68.103.78.155 (talk) 21:36, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

Images published in 1923 now in public domain?

I have seen several articles such as this one about material published in 1923 entering the public domain as of January 1, 2019. I noticed, however, that the Upload Wizard at Wikimedia Commons still has "First published before 1923" under the heading "The copyright has definitely expired in the USA". Does the recent change not apply to images uploaded to Wikimedia Commons, or has the Upload Wizard just not been updated to reflect the change? Eddie Blick (talk) 22:28, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

The wizard has a "Leave feedback" link to commons:Commons:Upload Wizard feedback. The issue has been reported at commons:Commons:Upload Wizard feedback#Change "before 1923" to "before 1924". But I don't know whether the page is read by anyone who works on the code. It may have more effect to report at Phabricator with the "Report a bug" link in the infobox at mw:Extension:UploadWizard. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:52, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, PrimeHunter. I didn't know about that option. I will try using that page and see what happens. I appreciate your help. Eddie Blick (talk) 16:03, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

Usage of Google My Maps in a wikipedia article

Visualization of history associated with a geographical large area entry can sometimes be useful in the body of an article (or as a reference). For instance, check https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_Northwest and the "Early Settlements" subsection (under History section). A number of important locations are cited. It would be most useful to include a map showing these locations of interest via a powerful tool such as Google My Maps (and even allow further visualization of the historical data via the map). Check https://www.google.com/maps/d/view?mid=14M4ikDB2SSJSNIqTjuvqbQwtwOuYkFxA&ll=49.21753099599351%2C-125&z=5 Can such a Google My Maps link be included? Or just a screen snapshot (with URL link embedded if further clicked)? Or nothing?

Otherwise stated, what are the restrictions (if any) in the usage of Google My Maps in wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by LeCanardQuoi (talk • contribs) 23:02, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

I believe a screenshot would not be possible. Google maps content is all copyrighted, and there is no reasonable way to claim fair use in Wikipedia articles. A link might be permissible per both there terms of use and Wikipedia's. Better is to have our own free maps hosted on commons, there are number of tools over there for creating maps. Beeblebrox (talk) 02:30, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

LeCanardQuoi (talk) 05:49, 7 March 2019 (UTC) @Beeblebrox THanks for your comment. Wikipedia article link validation does not accept special characters used by Google My Maps. Nor tinyurl links. Wikipedia:WikiProject Maps does not say anything about Google My Maps usage. Does not look promising.

@LeCanardQuoi: Let's take a look at Wikipedia:WikiProject Maps. I haven't read it yet. -Arch dude (talk) 02:39, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

St. Mary Magdalene Church, Sandringham

please help - publisher for ref number 9 is wrong. I cannot get it right. Sorry Srbernadette (talk) 23:10, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

I formatted the citation using the Google book citation tool. MB 23:55, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

Rowspan behavior

I recently added a table to Joe Taufeteʻe, but can't seem to get the last entry to span all three rows of table like I want to. Your assistance is appreciated! ebbillings (talk) 23:33, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

@Ebbillings: class=sortable apparently has issues if the last row has both rowspan and a header cell. One solution is to add an invisible row at the end with | colspan=8 style="display:none;" |. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:17, 7 March 2019 (UTC)